Would you like to elaborate?
Ryan Kaldari
On 9/29/11 4:35 PM, Béria Lima wrote:
I think it works both ways: There you might get stomped on by people
who disagree with the lies Sue told in the post, and here I will be
stomp up for even mentioned that she did lied in that blog post.
Safe environment do not exist in this case. Is safeR for supports to
come here, and safeR for opposers to go there. That does not make any
list safe, only shows that the POV here is different than the POV there.
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On 30 September 2011 00:25, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stie...@gmail.com
<mailto:sarah.stie...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I'm sure there are some people on this mailing list who also
disagree as well! We try to provide a safe haven for discussion
about sensitive topics.
But, if any of us spoke up on Foundation-L we'd be risking getting
torn up by often heavily opinionated Foundation-L subscribers, and
it gets really tiring :( It is also nice to have a change in
opinion - for those who dislike the post, there are also many of
that support it. Thanks for bringing up that a different type of
conversation is taking place on Foundation-L! I've been following it.
-Sarah
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Béria Lima
<beria.l...@wikimedia.pt <mailto:beria.l...@wikimedia.pt>> wrote:
ehhh, sorry for be the different, but you people are reading
the thread about that same blog post in Foundation-l ? The
opinions there seems to be quite different than yours.
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/Béria Lima/
Wikimedia Portugal <http://wikimedia.pt>
(351) 963 953 042
/Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a
possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o
conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer./
On 30 September 2011 00:09, Ryan Kaldari
<rkald...@wikimedia.org <mailto:rkald...@wikimedia.org>> wrote:
Can I nominate Sue for the Executive Director's Barnstar? :)
Kaldari
On 9/29/11 4:06 PM, Amory wrote:
I normally hate +1s, but I would like to echo this.
Really exceptionally well crafted, and even for people
following it's a very good writeup. Thank you, Sue.
~A
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 09:36, Andreas Kolbe
<jayen...@yahoo.com <mailto:jayen...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
Thanks for the link Sarah. It's an outstanding post
by Sue, and a courageous one, too.
Andreas
--- On *Thu, 29/9/11, Sarah Stierch
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<mailto:sarah.stie...@gmail.com>>/* wrote:
From: Sarah Stierch <sarah.stie...@gmail.com
<mailto:sarah.stie...@gmail.com>>
Subject: [Gendergap] Sue's new blog
To: "Increasing female participation in Wikimedia
projects" <gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
<mailto:gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org>>
Date: Thursday, 29 September, 2011, 7:47
http://suegardner.org/2011/09/28/on-editorial-judgment-and-empathy/
A lot of things I think about, and I'm sure a lot
of other people here think about.
I'm sure this blog won't be well received on
other WMF-related mailing lists, but, I have to
admit - for me - I feel like she's speaking for me.
I don't want to be a censor, I just want people
to have common sense, good judgement, customer
service and logic. And when people call /me/ a
censor, it's just as offensive as the other names
I've been called.
I have beencalled a prude, bitch, agitator, bore,
conservative, censor, "anti-woman"... someone
with an agenda...etc. I can only thank you Sue
for speaking on behalf of me - when I clumsily
try to express myself on Foundation-L and fear
being shot-down and having my "Wiki" self-esteem
torn down.....I just feel like "giving up."
Thanks. And I promise everyone, some of us are
working towards this, and working towards a
change and a towards a conversation that is
adult, logical and respectful.
<3
-Sarah
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