http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2011-September/069078.html _____ *Béria Lima* Wikimedia Portugal <http://wikimedia.pt> (351) 963 953 042
*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer.* On 30 September 2011 00:37, Ryan Kaldari <rkald...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > ** > Would you like to elaborate? > > Ryan Kaldari > > > On 9/29/11 4:35 PM, Béria Lima wrote: > > I think it works both ways: There you might get stomped on by people who > disagree with the lies Sue told in the post, and here I will be stomp up for > even mentioned that she did lied in that blog post. > > Safe environment do not exist in this case. Is safeR for supports to come > here, and safeR for opposers to go there. That does not make any list safe, > only shows that the POV here is different than the POV there. > _____ > *Béria Lima* > Wikimedia Portugal <http://wikimedia.pt> > (351) 963 953 042 > > *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter > livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que > estamos a fazer.* > > > On 30 September 2011 00:25, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stie...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I'm sure there are some people on this mailing list who also disagree as >> well! We try to provide a safe haven for discussion about sensitive topics. >> >> But, if any of us spoke up on Foundation-L we'd be risking getting torn up >> by often heavily opinionated Foundation-L subscribers, and it gets really >> tiring :( It is also nice to have a change in opinion - for those who >> dislike the post, there are also many of that support it. Thanks for >> bringing up that a different type of conversation is taking place on >> Foundation-L! I've been following it. >> >> -Sarah >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Béria Lima <beria.l...@wikimedia.pt>wrote: >> >>> ehhh, sorry for be the different, but you people are reading the thread >>> about that same blog post in Foundation-l ? The opinions there seems to be >>> quite different than yours. >>> _____ >>> *Béria Lima* >>> Wikimedia Portugal <http://wikimedia.pt> >>> (351) 963 953 042 >>> >>> *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter >>> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que >>> estamos a fazer.* >>> >>> >>> >>> On 30 September 2011 00:09, Ryan Kaldari <rkald...@wikimedia.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Can I nominate Sue for the Executive Director's Barnstar? :) >>>> >>>> Kaldari >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9/29/11 4:06 PM, Amory wrote: >>>> >>>> I normally hate +1s, but I would like to echo this. Really >>>> exceptionally well crafted, and even for people following it's a very good >>>> writeup. Thank you, Sue. >>>> >>>> ~A >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 09:36, Andreas Kolbe <jayen...@yahoo.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks for the link Sarah. It's an outstanding post by Sue, and a >>>>> courageous one, too. >>>>> >>>>> Andreas >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- On *Thu, 29/9/11, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stie...@gmail.com>* wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Sarah Stierch <sarah.stie...@gmail.com> >>>>> Subject: [Gendergap] Sue's new blog >>>>> To: "Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects" < >>>>> gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org> >>>>> Date: Thursday, 29 September, 2011, 7:47 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://suegardner.org/2011/09/28/on-editorial-judgment-and-empathy/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> A lot of things I think about, and I'm sure a lot of other people here >>>>> think about. >>>>> >>>>> I'm sure this blog won't be well received on other WMF-related mailing >>>>> lists, but, I have to admit - for me - I feel like she's speaking for me. >>>>> >>>>> I don't want to be a censor, I just want people to have common sense, >>>>> good judgement, customer service and logic. And when people call *me*a >>>>> censor, it's just as offensive as the other names I've been called. >>>>> >>>>> I have beencalled a prude, bitch, agitator, bore, conservative, censor, >>>>> "anti-woman"... someone with an agenda...etc. I can only thank you Sue for >>>>> speaking on behalf of me - when I clumsily try to express myself on >>>>> Foundation-L and fear being shot-down and having my "Wiki" self-esteem >>>>> torn >>>>> down.....I just feel like "giving up." >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. And I promise everyone, some of us are working towards this, >>>>> and working towards a change and a towards a conversation that is adult, >>>>> logical and respectful. >>>>> >>>>> <3 >>>>> >>>>> -Sarah >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> GLAMWIKI Partnership Ambassador for Wikimedia<http://www.glamwiki.org> >>>>> Wikipedian-in-Residence, Archives of American >>>>> Art<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SarahStierch> >>>>> and >>>>> Sarah Stierch Consulting >>>>> *Historical, cultural & artistic research & advising.* >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> http://www.sarahstierch.com/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Gendergap mailing list >>>>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org<http://mc/compose?to=Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org> >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Gendergap mailing list >>>>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Gendergap mailing >>>> listGendergap@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Gendergap mailing list >>>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gendergap mailing list >>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> GLAMWIKI Partnership Ambassador for Wikimedia <http://www.glamwiki.org> >> Wikipedian-in-Residence, Archives of American >> Art<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SarahStierch> >> and >> Sarah Stierch Consulting >> *Historical, cultural & artistic research & advising.* >> ------------------------------------------------------ >> http://www.sarahstierch.com/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing > listGendergap@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > >
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