I'd love to see the final paper. Does Laura Hale have any published results available? On Feb 26, 2014 12:26 PM, "Jane Darnell" <jane...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Lennart, > That is interesting, because I thought there were at least a few > editor surveys to compare results, but apparently not. The only thing > I could find was a page on meta that points to the 2011 survey here: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Editor_Survey > > The Dutch Wikimedia chapter subcontracted a survey last year but those > results can be used against the English Wikipedia one I don't think. > It's too bad that conducting surveys is so expensive, because this > could be a useful tool for all sorts of key performance indicators. > > Good luck, and I am looking forward to whatever you come up with. > Jane > > 2014-02-26 17:11 GMT+01:00, Lennart Guldbrandsson < > l_guldbrands...@hotmail.com>: > > Totally agree, Sarah, with your final point, and thanks for all the other > > tips. > > > > It seems my initial point, which can be stated as "little effect so far" > > stands, but needs to be qualified somewhat. I'll get right on it, and > give > > you guys and gals a link when the whole text is published. > > > > Thanks, everybody for your help. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Lennart Guldbrandsson > > > > 070 - 207 80 05 > > http://www.elementx.se - arbete > > http://www.mrchapel.wordpress.com - personlig blogg > > > > > > Presentation > > @aliasHannibal - på Twitter > > > > "Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri > tillgång > > till världens samlade kunskap. Det är vårt mål." > > > > > > Jimmy Wales > > > > Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 08:06:16 -0800 > > From: sarah.stie...@gmail.com > > To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > > Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Help: Research on whether we have made > > any difference? > > > > Yes, the Teahouse project has some data to back it up. You can talk to > > Jonathan Morgan, who co-build the space and was the lead in pulling data > if > > you need to: jmor...@wikimedia.org > > > > Laura Hale has been doing some interesting research about the top > > contributors to English Wikipedia and who write about women's subjects. > It's > > rather depressing, of course. la...@fanhistory.com > > > > The research work the Program Evaluation and Design team did about > > edit-a-thons and workshops shows little to no retention, which is no > > surprise, really. But, that was not gender specific. My own personal > > research showed the same, with womencentric events. > > > > But, that doesn't mean a dent hasn't been made. Yes, the Education > program > > happens to have a lot of women who contribute, especially successes in > > Arabic Wikipedia, but, outside of that specific program, the goal isn't > to > > retain, it's to improve content. > > > > I suggest people look at the improvement of "women centric" content > versus > > the retention of women editors. The nut still hasn't been cracked (puns > so > > not intended) on user retention through events, etc. > > > > We did discover that a lot of content gets created via edit-a-thons and > such > > events, versus the amount of people who stay on as editors. > > Don't rule out press and the attention the movement has received on the > > subject. If you look at the partnerships - hell, the UK government > basically > > said "uh hello, we need more women in science on Wikipedia," last week. > > Awareness is just one component of "making a difference." > > > > -Sarah > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:00 AM, Lennart Guldbrandsson > > <l_guldbrands...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, Pete, > > > > I will take a look at those also. They seem to concur with other studies > of > > percentage of the sexes studying. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Lennart Guldbrandsson > > > > > > 070 - 207 80 05 > > http://www.elementx.se - arbete > > http://www.mrchapel.wordpress.com - personlig blogg > > > > > > > > Presentation > > @aliasHannibal - på Twitter > > > > > > "Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri > tillgång > > till världens samlade kunskap. Det är vårt mål." > > > > > > > > Jimmy Wales > > > > Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 05:43:02 -0800 > > From: petefors...@gmail.com > > To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Help: Research on whether we have made > > any difference? > > > > Lennart, > > > > You should look at the Education Program, which after the first year > > appeared to have a strong impact (i.e. more participation from women than > > men). > > > > > > It's also been my experience (anecdotal but strong) that the Writing > > Wikipedia Articles course I teach has attracted and retained more women > than > > men. (This would not impact the general numbers in a signiificant way, > but > > might offer insights into what kinds of activity *would* impact the > > numbers.) > > > > > > > > Pete > > [[User:Peteforsyth]] > > www.wikistrategies.net > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 5:37 AM, Risker <risker...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > I do not think it will be possible to accurately assess any impact of > > specific actions, for multiple reasons. The most relevant one, however, > is > > the fact that the WMF itself has not done any broad-scale editor surveys > in > > a very long time, nor have individual communities to the best of my > > knowledge. > > > > > > Risker/Anne > > > > On 26 February 2014 05:37, Lennart Guldbrandsson > > <l_guldbrands...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I am writing a short (1500 word) text for the journal of current cultural > > research, Culture Unbound ( > http://www.cultureunbound.ep.liu.se/index.html), > > to be published in April. The topic touches quite heavily on the > gendergap > > issue. I have tried to find any numbers on whether the initiatives - > > editathons, Teahouse, etc - have made any dent in the numbers. Are there > any > > such numbers or have I simply fantasized about it? > > > > > > > > > > Since they want the text soon, please respond soon. Any assistance is > > greatly appreciated. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Lennart Guldbrandsson > > > > 070 - 207 80 05 > > http://www.elementx.se - arbete > > > > > > > > http://www.mrchapel.wordpress.com - personlig blogg > > > > > > > > > > > > Presentation > > @aliasHannibal - på Twitter > > > > > > > > > > "Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri > tillgång > > till världens samlade kunskap. 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