>"Badass" isn't a compliment.

And "cunt" is a friendly term of camaraderie in British English. Apparently
I just don't have a good command of the English language.

On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 4:39 PM, Risker <risker...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I feel very sad that you fellows don't see the problem in using this kind
> of language to describe women. "Badass" isn't a compliment. After the first
> two descriptions, I was fully expecting to see "brilliant motherf***er" to
> describe the third one.  I'm surprised it wasn't used, in fact.
>
> The subjects of our articles deserve to be treated much better than this.
>
> Further, I'm incredibly disappointed that this got published in The
> Signpost.  On Emily's own page...well, okay.  But instead of drawing
> attention to the women who are the subjects of the articles, almost all of
> the discussion is about the language used to describe them....and pointing
> out that several of them already had articles about them that were
> improved, rather than that they'd not been written about at all.
>
> All in all, it impressed me as an island of lovely flowers in a garden
> with a winter's worth of St. Bernard droppings.
>
> Risker
>
> On 21 February 2016 at 17:13, Pete Forsyth <petefors...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> +1 Ryan.
>>
>> This was one article, and no Wikipedians, readers, or article subjects
>> were injured as a result of its publication. I don't really have a strong
>> opinion one way or the other about whether using language in this way is
>> OK. But the main lesson to me is how much the English Wikipedia community
>> has come to value the Signpost as an institution. It's hard to imagine such
>> any Signpost column inspiring so much passion, say, five years ago. Above
>> all, I think this constitutes a strong endorsement of the general value of
>> the Signpost.
>>
>> -Pete
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Ryan Kaldari <rkald...@wikimedia.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The depressing thing to me is that the English Wikipedia community takes
>>> all of 10 minutes to work itself into a frenzy about the use of profanity
>>> in a positive, non-personal way, but if an editor on Wikipedia calls a
>>> female editor a cunt, no one dares to bat an eye.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 9:39 AM, Risker <risker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is it a double standard?  If that page hadn't been written by Keilana,
>>>> would it have been published as is?
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps you're right, it *is* a double standard.  Just not quite the
>>>> one some think it would be.
>>>>
>>>> Risker/Anne
>>>>
>>>> On 21 February 2016 at 08:31, Neotarf <neot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Op-ed about systemic bias and articles created.  Interesting double
>>>>> standard about profanity in the comment section.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2016-02-17/Op-ed
>>>>>
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