Nice.

How about this for a tad more clarity on the two official documentation items:

* [http://www.gnucash.org/viewdoc.phtml?doc=help The Help Manual] - a quick 
reference manual for ~~specific~~ _basic accounting_ tasks, and
* [http://www.gnucash.org/viewdoc.phtml?doc=guide The Tutorial and Concepts 
Guide] - an in-depth guide ~~to the concepts~~ _on using GnuCash to implement 
specific accounting concepts_. It is highly recommended to read at least the 
~~first chapters~~ _Getting Started section_ of the guide.

That last edit of course could be more specific with a number of chapters, 
especially if the recommendation is beyond Section I. My point is just that 
‘first chapters’ is a bit vague. (ideally, users should read it all of course, 
save maybe the business or investing sections if they aren’t applicable.)

Regards,
Adrien


> On Aug 20, 2018, at 7:30 PM, John Ralls <jra...@ceridwen.us> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 20, 2018, at 6:57 AM, David T. via gnucash-devel 
>> <gnucash-devel@gnucash.org> wrote:
>> 
>> OK. I have looked over this issue with an eye to clarifying the text, and I 
>> believe that the User Documentation section should be simplified. As 
>> currently written, as you all have noted, the User Documentation section 
>> includes different layers of content, presented at the same tier of 
>> coverage. Thus, the Help and Tutorial are presented alongside two wiki pages 
>> and two glossaries. That’s inconsistent. 
>> 
>> So, first up is to level things off. That means eliminating the separate 
>> headings for the Glossaries, the FAQ and Using Gnucash, and changing the 
>> main section to refer to the wiki at the same level as the Help and 
>> Tutorial. In the interest of helping people in dire need, I choose to retain 
>> the references to the FAQ and Using GnuCash pages, but as a descriptive list 
>> under the wiki in general (I will note that I also changed the Getting Help 
>> page to parallel this approach). As suggested, mention of the Glossaries 
>> isn’t particularly appropriate here, so I remove it altogether. [FWIW, I 
>> think the proper approach would be to make sure that all uses of special 
>> terminology in the wiki and the documentation receive reference to their 
>> glossary definitions, ideally as tool tips—but that solution is beyond my 
>> ability]
>> 
>> I also don’t like “User Documentation” since we aren’t documenting users, so 
>> I prefer “Documentation for Users”, which requires the following heading to 
>> be changed to “Documentation for Developers”
>> 
>> Here is my final suggestion for the section in question:
>> 
>> === Documentation for Users ===
>> GnuCash offers two major pieces of documentation: 
>> * [http://www.gnucash.org/viewdoc.phtml?doc=help The Help Manual] - a quick 
>> reference manual for specific tasks, and
>> * [http://www.gnucash.org/viewdoc.phtml?doc=guide The Tutorial and Concepts 
>> Guide] - an in-depth guide to the concepts. It is highly recommended to read 
>> at least the first chapters of the guide.
>> The [http://www.gnucash.org/docs.phtml Documentation page on the gnucash.org 
>> ''website''] also contains these documents in
>> * '''other languages:''' de, it, ja, pt; 
>> * '''other formats:''' ''PDF'', ''ePub'' or ''mobi''; as well as
>> * '''other releases:''' nightly (unstable),  previous and earlier stable 
>> releases.
>> The GnuCash wiki includes extensive information regarding all aspects of 
>> GnuCash, contributed by the developers and users of GnuCash. Information in 
>> the wiki covers a broad variety of topics, and includes detailed technical 
>> information, as well as information that applies to specific use cases. Of 
>> particular interest on the wiki are: 
>> * The [[FAQ|GnuCash FAQ]], which contains a collection of frequently asked 
>> questions about GnuCash, including administration, accounting, and glossary 
>> questions, and
>> * [[Using GnuCash]], which collects real life experiences using GnuCash. You 
>> may find (user) solutions here that are not covered by the documentation.
> 
> An excellent start, but I find the “Documentation for Users” section to be a 
> bit stilted, so I’ve changed it to
> 
>> === Documentation for Users ===
>> GnuCash offers two primary instructional documents: 
>> * [http://www.gnucash.org/viewdoc.phtml?doc=help ''The Help Manual''] - a 
>> quick reference manual for specific tasks, and
>> * [http://www.gnucash.org/viewdoc.phtml?doc=guide ''The Tutorial and 
>> Concepts Guide''] - an in-depth guide to the concepts. It is highly 
>> recommended that new users read at least the first chapters of the ''Guide''.
>> These are accessible via the '''Help''' menu in the program (if you've 
>> installed via a package manager you may need to install an additional 
>> package called something like "gnucash-docs") and from the 
>> [http://www.gnucash.org/docs.phtml Documentation page on the gnucash.org 
>> ''website''].
>> The ''Help Manual'' is available in English, German, Italian, and Japanese; 
>> the ''Guide'' in English, Italian, Japanese, Portuguese, and Russian.
>> 
>> ''PDF'', ''ePub'', and ''mobi'' formats may be downloaded from the 
>> [http://www.gnucash.org/docs.phtml Documentation page] where you will also 
>> find the documentation for earlier releases and a nightly build of changes 
>> made since the last release.
> 
> This also adds information about where to find it (it’s included in the 
> program with all of the transalations) and ditches the overly technical use 
> of the language codes in favor of writing out the names of the translation 
> languages.
> 
> The Russian translation is partial and the translator seems to have run out 
> of steam on proceeding, but it includes the first few chapters so I’ve 
> included it. I’d forgotten to ensure that the built docs actually got 
> uploaded and to add the links to the website; I’ve just done that now.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
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