On Jan 24, 2018, at 10:39 AM, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farr...@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:
> While I don't disagree with you, I do still wonder if we'd
> not be better off using another term for cases where maybe
> all that are involved are a couple of routers in the home,
> and where there's no external party, such as google in the
> example you give.
> 
> The reason I'm on about this is that if we use terms like
> "trust" and "enrollment" without qualification, then we may
> end up meaning quite different things, which might then
> make it harder to try find some solutions to what are in
> any case all hard problems.

I think this is a valid point.   We've talked about it as a trust establishment 
ritual; we could also call it "pairing" or "association" or "joining."

However, I think that there is some value in having a "third party" in the form 
of a phone or computer that is in charge.   This is how Google does it, and it 
appears to be a pretty good method.   I don't know how widely successful it's 
been—there were a lot of unsold Google Homes on the shelf right before 
Christmas—but it's at least working for the early adopters.

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