Good points. A lot of us started off in operations first then went on to 
application development. Eventually, some of us moved over to systems 
programming. Then.later the silos were created for operating systems 
maintenance, networking, and database. 
Today circling back, all those roles were melded into one individual wearing 
many hats, thanks to the Muckety mucks trying to kill the mainframe.
So here we are.
Bill Janulin. 
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  On Mon, Feb 6, 2023 at 13:37, Paul Gorlinsky<p...@atsmigrations.com> wrote:   
Absolutely! They should be taught how to program and debug first, then the 
constructs of individual languages. 

Many of us have programed on all sorts of machines from the IBM mainframe, to 
the IBM PC, 8080s, z80s, Univac 1050-II, Xeon, Arm, etc. and different 
languages from all the of different assemblers, PL/I, COBOL, FORTRAN, BASIC, 
REXX, C, JAVA, et.al.

And can move freely between them. 

But alas, even company trained systems programmers AREN'T systems 
programmers... They are installers, administrators, etc. that can't write a 
lick of assembler code ...

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