Even a commitment to do it with all new messages would be a big step forward.
________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of Lionel B. Dyck <lbd...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2023 10:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Error messages (a rant and an idea) My guess is that even if IBM were to accept this idea and begin implementation that it would take years, perhaps decades, and that they would begin with the shell commands/tools. While I would love to see it expand to all of z/OS I wouldn't hold my breath for that to happen, or for it to happen in my lifetime. MVS/QuickRef is one of those products that every, repeat *EVERY* z/OS shop should have installed. While some claim Google/etc. could replace it, I wouldn't place any bets on that. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://secure-web.cisco.com/1aGM7cWBlU2OYuRGKJGcMfP8u8DBKlk7ePnmhvToZhtoEkaIh0RepFA8rbsN2BVcN08MaTli3goZWvO8xMD-eELwXJJnSp66IvwX1ooMKAvPQaIf0Ezln76RbinwpY3P0ZH_mPb25lxe_qvmODHxQyKo0IH7TJzXbADvGa1qxmgxEBMHa2jGBWVW-Fl6Xp7340R788uQKUBgnoBvQlpMqQr1zIkx7JCUNSAYGQ29e6uyyYhNJ92xoF_pdn0zCbbBM5oKJNnAAI5j0W8Y7OrB9wZAeizZQONXJGvUe3NBA9VhuFEiBKW6qKa9HuHYJRnm92lvEHxlxI7PQN4LngrU8LUnWj9xnu7agojRp1_JCkZhNoFg7r2PKZpYNV-ylxs8KRUMxwGeqUrVVobe75j2UONqJXTs6HujhXnLU6qAXs9o/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Binyamin Dissen Sent: Monday, September 18, 2023 9:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Error messages (a rant and an idea) Do you want to put QuickRef out of business? On Mon, 18 Sep 2023 07:06:48 -0500 "Lionel B. Dyck" <lbd...@gmail.com> wrote: :>I submitted this IBM Idea and would appreciate your support if you’re able :>to vote: :> :>https://ibm-z-hardware-and-operating-systems.ideas.ibm.com/ideas/ZOS-I-382 7 :> :>The text is: :> :>Title: :>All error messages for shell tools should be complete and NOT require :>referencing a Messages and Codes manual :> :>Text: :>Receiving a message like this (example from DSFS dsadm command): IDFS00329E :>Could not set creation parameters, return code 126 reason code ED07621A. Is :>confusing and meaningless to the average OMVS shell user. They are not used :>to finding a messages and codes manual (which is so last millennium) and :>using Google/Bing/... is useless in finding this, and similar, messages. :> :>All shell commands that run under OMVS should provide clear, and complete, :>messages without requiring the user to find a messages and codes manual. The :>days of the 1960's and 1970's to -- Binyamin Dissen <bdis...@dissensoftware.com> http://secure-web.cisco.com/1a-j1muq-99k6Q8UHSg_hqUsjQ0gRpGPaOtv8d0D72Fju4Zu9HSlNk6j4OBqAlylv3Qucu2fvhWVklTiRwxTcjNZBv0_2yunL18fH41HEk87NEVmjw0QsKcrs7qJFQ8ZIp3PMl7MuMPIaz7u0kB04TqSiwNrRXAKzBmMa-sUKlTDwGXl0NUMPd9rfH7sKoEByxie8F3QJIJzL5-0ROtX9cQuPnwfjItvOrCP92jJVMUL1IAaNWAH845dcpsI50jjLwKb3JCqOdGpdOA773K7KUmz6Q1CbtW-fYRELOMbiAjJ9zix49ScVwkUBlvKsAGJQVs48y5VZablIKpMJ-LyLLoYYtQSlFUdv3RX7NOsjVmF8zHjHFSF_uUWI4ytKcAOv1nY8CuWECNlbOiAbtDfF3RIZOabGfrhWExJA-OKhIyo/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar & Grill - Israel ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
