As noted earlier in this thread, sysres datasets should be cataloged with 
volser ****** and unit 0000. That tells the system to look on the currently 
IPLed sysres regardless of volume name. 

BTW I don't subscribe to the floating MCAT strategy. Our master catalog lives 
away from sysres and therefore does not change on sysres swap. We've done this 
forever and don't see any serious problems. And you don't need multiple MCATs 
during upgrades as long you always call LINKLIB 'SYS1.LINKLIB'.  

.
.
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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Ken Smith
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 12:49 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: (External):Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

I like this approach! But I thought certain data sets used in NIP and early 
phases of IPL had to be in the master cat, e.g., SYS1.LPALIB which presumably 
is in your SYSRES cat?
How does it work?

Ken

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:28 AM, van der Grijn, Bart (B) < 
bvandergr...@dow.com> wrote:

> We run two sysplexes of about 12 LPARs each (NonProd vs Prod). Both 
> plexes have a single mcat shared across the plex (but not between 
> plexes). We've upgraded these from release to release over the last 10 
> years and never had to use a second master catalog. In fact, I just 
> checked our NonProd mcat and it was created on 2007.005.
> We use a single SYSRES with its own catalog, which resides on the SYSRES.
> The SYSRES is swapped every month for a new one, which is how we 
> introduce maintenance, or even upgrades.
>
> I've seen no down sides to a single mcat for our setup, but as others 
> have noted, it will depend on the role of each system in the plex. For 
> our setup all LPARs serve the same purpose, just for different application 
> instances.
>
> Bart
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> On Behalf Of Allan Staller
> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 8:59 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX
>
> " Prior to this job I worked at a shop where we supported sysplexes 
> from a single system to up to 10 LPARs in a single sysplex.  The 
> master catalogs were not shared , I think I would put forth one big 
> reason for not sharing the master catalog, would be system upgrades, 
> when we went through the z/OS upgrades, there were times where SYS1. 
> Level data sets location changed from one release to the next and the 
> catalog needed to point to the new location for the new release.  We 
> would upgrade one LPAR at a time in a sysplex, which was once a week, 
> so it would be several weeks to complete a sysplex."
>
> This is a non-starter. As far as I am concerned, everything that can 
> be shared should be shared (Two of anything that do not agree worse 
> than nothing). If you go with separate MCATS, you must spend a great 
> deal of time ensuring they are in sync w/each other.
>
> Sure, you need multiple MCATs during the upgrade cycle, but when all 
> is done, there should be only one MCAT
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> On Behalf Of Nims,Alva John (Al)
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 3:44 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX
>
> We currently have a 2 LPAR sysplex and the master catalog in not shared.
> Prior to this job I worked at a shop where we supported sysplexes from 
> a single system to up to 10 LPARs in a single sysplex.  The master 
> catalogs were not shared , I think I would put forth one big reason 
> for not sharing the master catalog, would be system upgrades, when we 
> went through the z/OS upgrades, there were times where SYS1. Level 
> data sets location changed from one release to the next and the 
> catalog needed to point to the new location for the new release.  We 
> would upgrade one LPAR at a time in a sysplex, which was once a week, 
> so it would be several weeks to complete a sysplex.
>
> I think there are a lot of questions you have to ask yourself about 
> how you are going to handle the sysplex and what you are going to keep 
> in the master catalog, besides SYS1.  Note: I believe System Symbols 
> are your friend when setting up the catalog, for both data set names and 
> VOLSER.
>
>
> Al Nims
> Systems Admin/Programmer 3
> UFIT
> University of Florida
> (352) 273-1298
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> On Behalf Of Travis
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 3:54 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX
>
> We are creating a SYSPLEX of two systems and there seems to be some 
> debate about using a single shared master catalog or multiple master 
> catalogs on each system. The IBM manuals recommend a single shared 
> master catalog but our CE has been advocating multiple catalogs. What 
> are the pros and cons of running each? We have two identical systems 
> in the PLEX and for right now there is no plan to add more, however 
> that could change at any time in the near future.


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