On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Andrew Scherpbier
<and...@scherpbier.org>wrote:
>
> The "Getting Started" document got me hooked on Lift. :-)
> I guess I'll report my struggles from there. I don't know if what I did
> is typical.
>
> After actually running the two examples from the "Getting Started" docs,
> I looked and found some other examples, did some looking around in the
> mailing list archives and started reading the "Exploring Lift" book.
> As a starting application of lift, I want to write a simple purchase
> order tracking webapp. It was easy enough to figure out how to hook up
> PostgreSQL instead of Derby. I started experimenting with the CRUDify
> trait and got several tables working, but then I got stuck trying to
> make a more cohesive app. What I could not figure out was how to use
> CRUDify's functionality without having to put all the options in the
> SiteMap. So I spent a lot of time trying to figure out the SiteMap
> class. I have since come to the realization that I probably shouldn't
> be using CRUDify, as non of the examples actually use it. I have also
> realized that I should be putting rules in LiftRules.rewrite.
>
I don't think so. I think that you should be using SiteMap. SiteMap is the
best tool for defining site navigation and access control rules around.
CRUDify and ProtoUser are like scaffolding... they get you some pieces
really quickly, but you'll ultimately need to replace them. You should
never have to replace SiteMap.
So... what's the specific challenge you're running into with SiteMap?
>
> So, my point, I guess, is that it was never clear to me what request
> rewriting was all about. I didn't understand the explanations and
> basically just skipped it and tried to do everything with SiteMap.
> What I have taken away from this: "Request Rewriting" sounds very
> advanced and made me think of sendmail rewriting rules! (Yuck!)
> Maybe it would be good to have some blurbs on "Lift for JEE
> developers". What is the equivalent of mapping a URL to a servlet and
> how do you deal with the URL pattern matching. (I want to map "/foo/*"
> to a some soft of action)
>
> So that would then be a nice lead-in to coverage of net.liftweb.http.S,
> right?
>
> Anyway, back to API docs, it never occurred to be to look at the docs
> for net.liftweb.http.LiftRules! There are actually lots of comments
> there. The "rewrite" is kinda hidden there, so it probably should be
> called out in the class docs. Then for the actual "rewrite" docs, it
> would be nice to give some examples of what should go in there or
> provide a link to external docs showing the same.
>
> How have other people tackled the learning curve of lift?
>
> --Andrew
>
> Derek Chen-Becker wrote:
> > In terms of the API docs part of it would just be expanding on the
> > current scaladoc to provider better explanation. Obviously there are a
> > ton of classes to document, so I'd like to focus efforts on getting
> > the most bang for the buck. I was thinking of starting with
> > net.liftweb.http.{LiftRules,S,SHtml} and making the documentation on
> > them *outstanding*. We can branch out from there. If you're coming to
> > Lift new, it would also be helpful to find out what we're missing or
> > need to cover better in the "Getting Started" document on the web
> > site. If you want to read through that and provide feedback here on
> > the list that would be great.
> >
> > Derek
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Andrew Scherpbier
> > <and...@scherpbier.org <mailto:and...@scherpbier.org>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Derek,
> > That's awesome. I want to help. What can I do? I can start by
> proof
> > reading stuff.
> >
> > --Andrew
> >
>
>
> >
>
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