On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > Linux people. I talked to some of them over the time and most people told > me similar reasons for not taking part in ILUG: > - too much uninteresting mail > .. > > That says it all, doesn't it ? but there's more. an interesting point Jon made today (and thanks for all the people who came! 15 people at a 2 day notice was a good turnout afterall...), was that the LUG is not in people's notion when they think of tapping linux resources in Israel. Maddog wants 2-3 technical Linux conferences to take place next year, and Israel is one place he thinks would be the best site for such a confference. He asked David Leichner of Magic to gather a list of people and start helping to form a steering comitee, David asked him where to start and maddog said "The LUG!". David: "DUH! how come I didn't think about it?" well, my point here is double: 1. we need more LUG activity, whether internal (lectures) or external (PR) 2. the current "LUG" we have is a failure, it's not more than a mailing list, and one that is driving people out. I sugest we keep this list here as a pan-Israeli one, and open two more lists for Tel Aviv and Jerusalem people, not just for events planning, but for most anything else (well, maybe also to keep the load down on the poor readers :-) If it's good for the Haifa group, it'll be good for TA and Jerusalem. my poll now shows Friday afternooons in the lead, and I think Jerusalemites can easely get something like that organized. 2.1 open some lists or Hebrew forums for Newbies. My dream mirror server is not up yet, but when it will be, I'll install a Hebrew web forum for this (start sending me sugestions for the software, I'm not gonna write it from scratch.) Jerusalem people: do what I did: go get a member of the faculty staff interested, Prof. Barak may be a good starting point. Get his help in getting a monthly (or biweekly) room somewhere, start a list, get speakers or write your own lectures, publish the list and lectures on a few billboards, and maybe even Pi Ha'aton... this could mean a little headache at the beginning but the benefits in the log runs are great. -- Ira Abramov ; whois:IA58 ; www.scso.com ; all around Linux enthusiast fortune: too many tries ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]