Hi list, I am hoping that somebody from Actcom themselves is reading this list and will give us some facts. I personally have been very satisfied with the service I have received from them for the last 2 years. Their presence at August penguin contradicts the claim of some that they are no longer interested in Linux users.
I called them and asked about dialers "Chaygan" and they told me that it was not possible to connect to the service without one, and that a 750kb connection is NIS513 a year. I currently connect without any such tool and paid a few shekels more than that for my 750kb connection. With regard to the bandwidth and routing issues, I did a few traceroutes to check people's claims. The results are summarised here, a little raw data is below as proof. Actcom are connected to IIX, so at list for data transfer within Israel are an ISP in their own right. Actcom and Netvision appear to be connected together independently of IIX. Packets sent to google.com possibly go via 012. Packets sent to apple.com,microsoft.com,ibm.com,fbi.gov all go via netvision (fbi.gov is only five hops, which is a little spooky) Conclusion: Actcom possibly buy their international bandwidth from other larger providers, this being more economical than buying directly since they are a small ISP. Disclaimer: Above is guesswork, I am not associated with Actcom and the above is derived from my traceroute results shown below with no other info. --------------------- l:~$ traceroute www.012.net.il traceroute to www.012.net.il (212.199.79.167), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 v2.actcom.co.il (192.114.47.251) 43.803 ms 29.465 ms 27.990 ms 2 rtr76.actcom.co.il (192.114.47.250) 35.826 ms 28.717 ms 28.003 ms 3 IIX-G-Actcom.iix.net.il (192.114.62.73) 40.600 ms 34.900 ms 31.366 ms 4 GoldenLines-G-IIX.iix.net.il (192.114.62.18) 40.019 ms 36.778 ms 29.935 ms 5 ta-212.199.28.106.012.net.il (212.199.28.106) 40.964 ms 39.342 ms 31.983 ms l:~$ traceroute www.google.com traceroute: Warning: www.google.com has multiple addresses; using 64.233.161.99 traceroute to www.l.google.com (64.233.161.99), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 v2.actcom.co.il (192.114.47.251) 30.914 ms 18.080 ms 18.810 ms 2 rtr76.actcom.co.il (192.114.47.250) 19.584 ms 17.937 ms 48.062 ms 3 212.117.157.165 (212.117.157.165) 29.654 ms 32.213 ms 31.971 ms 4 sa-pt-212.199.26.34.012.net.il (212.199.26.34) 41.273 ms 34.046 ms 29.340 ms 5 pos4-3.ar03.ldn01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.13.137) 109.217 ms 101.065 ms 98.152 ms l:~$ traceroute www.fbi.gov traceroute: Warning: www.fbi.gov has multiple addresses; using 212.143.162.152 traceroute to a33.g.akamai.net (212.143.162.152), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 v2.actcom.co.il (192.114.47.251) 53.353 ms 32.749 ms 26.490 ms 2 rtr76.actcom.co.il (192.114.47.250) 36.254 ms 28.737 ms 28.235 ms 3 nv-act.ser.netvision.net.il (199.203.173.126) 38.604 ms 34.349 ms 31.424 ms 4 gi1-1.srvc02.hfa.nv.net.il (212.143.8.8) 38.955 ms 31.444 ms 28.763 ms 5 212.143.162.152 (212.143.162.152) 38.726 ms 35.511 ms 30.949 ms l:~$ traceroute www.ibm.com traceroute: Warning: www.ibm.com has multiple addresses; using 129.42.21.99 traceroute to www.ibm.com (129.42.21.99), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 v2.actcom.co.il (192.114.47.251) 40.634 ms 20.987 ms 19.143 ms 2 rtr76.actcom.co.il (192.114.47.250) 26.717 ms 19.492 ms 33.986 ms 3 nv-act.ser.netvision.net.il (199.203.173.126) 19.839 ms 22.514 ms 23.643 ms 4 gi1-1.core2.hfa.nv.net.il (212.143.8.65) 22.608 ms 21.647 ms 23.406 ms l:~$ traceroute www.apple.com traceroute to www.apple.com.akadns.net (17.254.0.91), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 v2.actcom.co.il (192.114.47.251) 34.423 ms 30.354 ms 28.062 ms 2 rtr76.actcom.co.il (192.114.47.250) 36.322 ms 29.157 ms 27.967 ms 3 nv-act.ser.netvision.net.il (199.203.173.126) 40.476 ms 22.413 ms 23.060 ms 4 gi1-1.core2.hfa.nv.net.il (212.143.8.65) 19.717 ms 36.502 ms 32.242 ms 5 pos1-0.brdr1.nyc.nv.net.il (212.143.12.13) 229.689 ms 221.862 ms 188.585 ms 6 Gigabitethernet4-0.GW12.NYC4.ALTER.NET (157.130.25.37) 165.940 ms ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
