Hi,

I'm sending this on-list.

The relevant lines for apache are:

Jun 11 08:44:35 www.speedypedia.info systemd[1]: Failed to start The Apache
HTTP Server.
Jun 11 08:44:35 www.speedypedia.info systemd[1]: Starting Disk Cache
Cleaning Daemon for Apache HTTP Server...
Jun 11 08:44:35 www.speedypedia.info systemd[1]: Started Disk Cache
Cleaning Daemon for Apache HTTP Server.
Jun 11 08:55:40 www.speedypedia.info systemd[1]: Starting The Apache HTTP
Server...
Jun 11 08:55:40 www.speedypedia.info systemd[1]: Started The Apache HTTP
Server.

And for mysql:

Jun 11 08:53:05 www.speedypedia.info systemd[1]: mysql.service: Start
operation timed out. Terminating.
Jun 11 09:00:46 www.speedypedia.info systemd[1]: mysql.service: Failed with
result 'timeout'.
Jun 11 09:00:46 www.speedypedia.info systemd[1]: Failed to start MySQL
Community Server.
Jun 11 09:00:47 www.speedypedia.info systemd[1]: mysql.service: Service
hold-off time over, scheduling restart.
Jun 11 09:00:47 www.speedypedia.info systemd[1]: mysql.service: Scheduled
restart job, restart counter is at 1.
Jun 11 09:00:47 www.speedypedia.info systemd[1]: Stopped MySQL Community
Server.
Jun 11 09:00:47 www.speedypedia.info systemd[1]: Starting MySQL Community
Server...
Jun 11 09:00:47 www.speedypedia.info systemd[1]: Started MySQL Community
Server.

אורי
u...@speedy.net


On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 10:01 AM Shay Gover <govers...@gmail.com> wrote:

> journalctl -e
> Send what's relevant around the time u start apache
>
> ‪On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 9:59 AM ‫אורי‬‎ <u...@speedy.net> wrote:‬
>
>> How do I use journalctl?
>> אורי
>> u...@speedy.net
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 9:56 AM Shay Gover <govers...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Anything related in journalctl?
>>>
>>> ‪On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 9:52 AM ‫אורי‬‎ <u...@speedy.net> wrote:‬
>>>
>>>> # cat /var/log/apache2/error.log
>>>> [Thu Jun 11 06:25:05.426924 2020] [mpm_prefork:notice] [pid 1154]
>>>> AH00163: Apache/2.4.29 (Ubuntu) OpenSSL/1.1.1g configured -- resuming
>>>> normal operations
>>>> [Thu Jun 11 06:25:05.427080 2020] [core:notice] [pid 1154] AH00094:
>>>> Command line: '/usr/sbin/apache2'
>>>> [Thu Jun 11 06:27:29.459759 2020] [mpm_prefork:notice] [pid 1154]
>>>> AH00169: caught SIGTERM, shutting down
>>>> [Thu Jun 11 06:27:34.334311 2020] [mpm_prefork:notice] [pid 1250]
>>>> AH00163: Apache/2.4.29 (Ubuntu) OpenSSL/1.1.1g configured -- resuming
>>>> normal operations
>>>> [Thu Jun 11 06:27:34.334390 2020] [core:notice] [pid 1250] AH00094:
>>>> Command line: '/usr/sbin/apache2'
>>>> [Thu Jun 11 08:42:54.263194 2020] [mpm_prefork:notice] [pid 1250]
>>>> AH00169: caught SIGTERM, shutting down
>>>>
>>>> access logs - when apache worked, nothing unusual.
>>>>
>>>> (I think caught SIGTERM, shutting down is due to reboot)
>>>>
>>>> אורי
>>>> u...@speedy.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 9:49 AM Shay Gover <govers...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What do u have in apache logs?
>>>>>
>>>>> ‪On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 9:47 AM ‫אורי‬‎ <u...@speedy.net> wrote:‬
>>>>>
>>>>>> # systemctl status apache2.service
>>>>>> ● apache2.service - The Apache HTTP Server
>>>>>>    Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/apache2.service; enabled;
>>>>>> vendor preset: enabled)
>>>>>>   Drop-In: /lib/systemd/system/apache2.service.d
>>>>>>            └─apache2-systemd.conf
>>>>>>    Active: failed (Result: timeout) since Thu 2020-06-11 08:44:35
>>>>>> CEST; 2min 1s ago
>>>>>>   Process: 577 ExecStart=/usr/sbin/apachectl start (code=killed,
>>>>>> signal=TERM)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jun 11 08:43:03 www.speedypedia.info systemd[1]: Starting The Apache
>>>>>> HTTP Server...
>>>>>> Jun 11 08:44:35 www.speedypedia.info systemd[1]: apache2.service:
>>>>>> Start operation timed out. Terminating.
>>>>>> Jun 11 08:44:35 www.speedypedia.info systemd[1]: apache2.service:
>>>>>> Failed with result 'timeout'.
>>>>>> Jun 11 08:44:35 www.speedypedia.info systemd[1]: Failed to start The
>>>>>> Apache HTTP Server.
>>>>>> אורי
>>>>>> u...@speedy.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 9:38 AM Efraim Flashner <
>>>>>> efr...@flashner.co.il> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not sure why apache is only starting some time after you reboot. What
>>>>>>> does the output of 'systemctl status apache2.service' look like?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 07:31:31AM +0300, אורי wrote:
>>>>>>> > Hi,
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I estimate it's about 15 to 20 minutes after reboot that I can
>>>>>>> start apache
>>>>>>> > successfully. Otherwise, I can't start apache.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > אורי
>>>>>>> > u...@speedy.net
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 7:23 AM Eli Marmor <e...@netmask.it> wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > > Please run:
>>>>>>> > > apachectl start
>>>>>>> > > from the command line, and copy the response to this list.
>>>>>>> > > If there is no error, please copy the relevant lines from the
>>>>>>> error.log of
>>>>>>> > > apache2.
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2020, 7:12 AM אורי <u...@speedy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > >> Hi,
>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>> > >> Running the command "sudo apachectl configtest" returns "Syntax
>>>>>>> OK".
>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>> > >> Running "sudo systemctl restart apache2" doesn't respond. But a
>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>> > >> minutes ago it worked and the website worked. I rebooted again
>>>>>>> and now
>>>>>>> > >> again it's not working. The problem is that apache doesn't
>>>>>>> restart after
>>>>>>> > >> rebooting.
>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>> > >> אורי
>>>>>>> > >> u...@speedy.net
>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>> > >> ‪On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 6:29 AM ‫אורי‬‎ <u...@speedy.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:‬
>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>> > >>> Hi,
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> Thanks for your suggestion, I decided to upgrade to 18.04.4
>>>>>>> and I ran a
>>>>>>> > >>> few times the following commands (from root):
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> sudo apt autoremove
>>>>>>> > >>> sudo apt-get update
>>>>>>> > >>> sudo apt-get upgrade
>>>>>>> > >>> sudo apt update
>>>>>>> > >>> sudo apt upgrade
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> I have 4 servers and I upgraded all of them and 3 of them are
>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>> > >>> properly, however one server apache is not working, I can't
>>>>>>> restart apache
>>>>>>> > >>> (with "sudo systemctl restart apache2" - it's not responding)
>>>>>>> and the
>>>>>>> > >>> website is not working. How can I fix it now?
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> The server didn't respond after reboot once (after 2 reboots)
>>>>>>> and I had
>>>>>>> > >>> to shut it down and restart it again.
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> > >>> Uri
>>>>>>> > >>> אורי
>>>>>>> > >>> u...@speedy.net
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 10:29 PM Micha Bailey <
>>>>>>> michabai...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> > >>> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> Regarding the upgrade to Focal (20.04): There’s no reason to
>>>>>>> rush.
>>>>>>> > >>>> Bionic (18.04) is supported, if I’m not mistaken, until 2023.
>>>>>>> In fact,
>>>>>>> > >>>> Bionic (LTS) users aren’t even offered the upgrade (i.e. you
>>>>>>> need to go out
>>>>>>> > >>>> of your way to get it) until 20.04.1 is out in a few months.
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> Regarding the upgrade to 18.04.4, I could be mistaken, but my
>>>>>>> > >>>> understanding is that point releases aren’t new versions of
>>>>>>> Ubuntu per se.
>>>>>>> > >>>> At point releases, new isos are spun with up-to-date
>>>>>>> packages, but it’s
>>>>>>> > >>>> still the same version. Assuming you make a habit of
>>>>>>> installing updates
>>>>>>> > >>>> regularly (which you obviously should be), you will
>>>>>>> effectively
>>>>>>> > >>>> automatically be on 18.04.4.
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 6:44 PM אורי <u...@speedy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>> Actually I have a staging server which I can upgrade first
>>>>>>> to 18.04.4
>>>>>>> > >>>>> to see if it works, or if something breaks. But I didn't
>>>>>>> find it on Google
>>>>>>> > >>>>> - how do I upgrade an OS to Ubuntu 18.04.4 (from 18.04.*)
>>>>>>> without upgrading
>>>>>>> > >>>>> it to 20.04?
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>> אורי
>>>>>>> > >>>>> u...@speedy.net
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 6:19 PM Shlomi Fish <
>>>>>>> shlo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Hi Uri!
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> ‪On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 5:30 PM ‫אורי‬‎ <u...@speedy.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:‬
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I'm sorry for posting twice in the same day to the same
>>>>>>> mailing
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> list. But I have a question: I'm using Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS
>>>>>>> for a few
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> production servers (one of them I upgraded a few months
>>>>>>> ago from 14.04).
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> How important it is to upgrade the OS version, or can I
>>>>>>> keep it like this?
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I'm afraid that things will break up if I upgrade. And if
>>>>>>> I upgrade, should
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I upgrade to Ubuntu 18.04.4 or 20.04? I think since 20.04
>>>>>>> has been recently
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> released, it might have bugs which will be fixed later,
>>>>>>> and I prefer not to
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> use the first version of 20.04 but to wait about one year
>>>>>>> before I use it.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Is there a risk with keeping using 18.04.3? Or should I
>>>>>>> upgrade at least to
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 18.04.4?
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> I've answered the general question here:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://github.com/shlomif/Freenode-programming-channel-FAQ/blob/master/FAQ_with_ToC__generated.md#will-a-change-i-would-like-to-do-break-some-functionality
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Quoting it:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Will a change I would like to do break some functionality?
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> As the aphorism
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> <
>>>>>>> https://github.com/shlomif/shlomif-email-signature/blob/master/shlomif-sig-quotes.txt#L1988
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> goes: The difference between theory and practice is that in
>>>>>>> theory,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> there is no difference between theory and practice, while
>>>>>>> in practice,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> there is.. There is usually a risk, however small, that a
>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> will break some functionality. With good tooling (such as
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Version_control ,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_machine and
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS-level_virtualisation ) it
>>>>>>> should be
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> relatively easy to revert a change which introduced
>>>>>>> regressions, and you
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> should do adequate testing.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> A change may have to be avoided due to being estimated as
>>>>>>> too time or
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> money consuming, or as having too little gain. However,
>>>>>>> promising changes
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> should be attempted because:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>    1. "No guts - no glory."
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>    2. What does "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" really
>>>>>>> mean?
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>    <
>>>>>>> https://szabgab.com/what-does--if-it-aint-broke-dont-fix-it--really-mean.html
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>    3. If you never change anything, your project won't
>>>>>>> progress.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> ----------
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> While you may break some functionality by updating to
>>>>>>> 18.04.04 , you
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> also risk being affected by known security vulnerabilities
>>>>>>> (which may also
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> break functionality sooner or later). There is a concept of
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technical_debt .
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Regarding updating to 20.04, it is likely more time
>>>>>>> consuming and may
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> have more breaking changes, and you may not need all the
>>>>>>> newest and
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> shiniest software versions there, and you may wish to only
>>>>>>> update to ubuntu
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> 22.04/etc. I didn't hear of too many horror stories of
>>>>>>> ubuntu 20.04 being
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> unusable or unstable, but I'm quite out of the loop.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Uri.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> אורי
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> u...@speedy.net
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>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> --
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Shlomi Fish https://www.shlomifish.org/
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Buddha has the Chuck Norris nature.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
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