Dirk, I think you misread the email - John was was asking specifically about his approach to use REBUILD_CV_VIGNETTES without any caching since that was the original question which no one answered in the thread - and that was what I was answering. The alternative approaches were already discussed to death so I didn't comment on those.
Cheers, Simon > On 18/10/2023, at 11:03 AM, Dirk Eddelbuettel <e...@debian.org> wrote: > > > On 18 October 2023 at 08:51, Simon Urbanek wrote: > | John, > | > | the short answer is it won't work (it defeats the purpose of vignettes). > > Not exactly. Everything is under our (i.e. package author) control, and when > we want to replace 'computed' values with cached values we can. > > All this is somewhat of a charade. "Of course" we want vignettes to run > tests. But then we don't want to fall over random missing .sty files or fonts > (macOS machines have been less forgiving than others), not to mention compile > time. > > So for simplicity I often pre-make pdf vignettes that get included in other > latex code as source. Works great, never fails, CRAN never complained -- > which is somewhat contrary to your statement. > > It is effectively the same with tests. We all want maximum test surfaces. But > when tests fail, or when they run too long, or [insert many other reasons > here] so many packages run tests conditionally. Such is life. > > Dirk > > > | However, this sounds like a purely hypothetical question - CRAN policies > allow long-running vignettes if they declared. > | > | Cheers, > | Simon > | > | > | > On 18/10/2023, at 3:02 AM, John Fox <j...@mcmaster.ca> wrote: > | > > | > Hello Dirk, > | > > | > Thank you (and Kevin and John) for addressing my questions. > | > > | > No one directly answered my first question, however, which was whether > the approach that I suggested would work. I guess that the implication is > that it won't, but it would be nice to confirm that before I try something > else, specifically using R.rsp. > | > > | > Best, > | > John > | > > | > On 2023-10-17 4:02 a.m., Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: > | >> Caution: External email. > | >> On 16 October 2023 at 10:42, Kevin R Coombes wrote: > | >> | Produce a PDF file yourself, then use the "as.is" feature of the R.rsp > | >> | package. > | >> For completeness, that approach also works directly with Sweave. > Described in > | >> a blog post by Mark van der Loo in 2019, and used in a number of packages > | >> including a few of mine. > | >> That said, I also used the approach described by John Harrold and cached > | >> results myself. > | >> Dirk > | >> -- > | >> dirk.eddelbuettel.com | @eddelbuettel | e...@debian.org > | >> ______________________________________________ > | >> R-package-devel@r-project.org mailing list > | >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-package-devel > | > > | > ______________________________________________ > | > R-package-devel@r-project.org mailing list > | > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-package-devel > | > > | > | ______________________________________________ > | R-package-devel@r-project.org mailing list > | https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-package-devel > > -- > dirk.eddelbuettel.com | @eddelbuettel | e...@debian.org > ______________________________________________ R-package-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-package-devel
