+1 for the Rivet Pearl. I've got one on a Soma Double Cross, and the
version with the cutout is indeed an excellent fit for several positions
fore and aft!

On Sat, Mar 30, 2024, 3:25 PM ascpgh <asc....@gmail.com> wrote:

> Emily, I have dealt with roughly your sort of physiological dimensioning
> my whole riding life and currently have three variations of coping, each
> with saddles that bear varying results. Those results have inseparable
> connection to how well each of the bikes they are on fits me.
>
> My commuter is a stock Surly Disc Trucker "box bike". I added a Brooks
> B-17, pedals , Nitto RM 013 handlebar, dyno hub/ lights and a shorter a
> stem. The frame size that produced the best reach to the handlebars
> required a long  extension of the seat post and would have required a
> pretty high angle stem for those bars to be level with the seat, my comfort
> zone, and would also need significant setback dimension of the seat post
> head. The frame size that gives the best pedaling position requires a short
> stem to keep me from reaching, sort of. I still feel like I reach for the
> bars on that bike and do not ride it more than 20 miles. Even on the bigger
> size I find my legs drive me to slide back on the seat, onto the cantle
> (that metal thing) for many climbs before I pedal out of the saddle. Lots
> of compromises but it's my 14 hour lock up bike.
>
> My Rivendell Rambouillet was the best stock bike fit to my body I'd ever
> experienced and prevented me from going custom. Grant envisioned it as a
> long hours in the saddle sporty/light touring bike in the French
> audax/randonnour-inspired design for comfort over hours of riding. Shorter
> top tube than seat tube, with 2° upslope and 2 cm extended top head tube
> lug all conspired to provide this. It all conspires to fitting me well. It
> was a stock build kit from Riv with the B-17, RM 013 bars, I added the
> fenders, and changed the derailleurs, shifters and brakes. I do pedal from
> the saddle quite a bit more than others in groups before getting out of it
> and standing for hills. I still find myself sliding back on the seat for a
> rearward position to get some pushing forward on the pedal strokes when
> going uphill. That puts me on that cantle again, less than on the commuter
> but with the bars in more comfortable reach.
>
> I finally did go custom to for the sort of riding I have available and
> enjoy from my front door. I've refined what I look for in saddles,
> acknowledging that I do stay on the saddle across more terrain than others,
> scooting rearward for that pushing bit where others pop up, pedaling out of
> their saddles. That fore and aft position range has made me a connoisseur
> of saddle tops that have a platform of surface wide enough for my sit bones
> but also retaining that in the longitudal dimension of my back and forth
> positioning. I want that platform to be level and I don't want extra
> material rubbing my legs.
>
> I am using a Rivet Pearl with cut out on my custom bike. The cut out lets
> the centerline of the leather "hammock" between the nose and cantle without
> the same amount of weight my sit bones applied to those spots that breaks
> in the points where they do bear weight. Without the cut out, that leather
> remains a linear high ridge from front to back where the less skeletal
> portions of my rear end are perched. I thought I had picked perfectly when
> I chose the Rivet Diablo but after three months' riding and several
> centuries everything was breaking in nicely except for that ridge line down
> the center and it was creating discomfort. They were quick to respond to my
> issue and sent the the cut out version of the Pearl which has been perfect
> ever since.
>
> Hope this is of some help to your situation.
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 11:46:29 PM UTC-4 Emily Guise wrote:
>
>> Hey all, thanks so much for your insights! I'm local to Portland OR, and
>> there is a bike fitter in town, Pedal PT, who also does physical therapy.
>> I've been wondering if I should get a fit with them, and it seems like I
>> should look into it more seriously.
>>
>> My travel/adventure/distance bike is a Bike Friday, and that's the one
>> I'd get fit. I do tend to like the flatter saddles, and usually ride with
>> the nose titled up. A challenge is that I have very long arms and legs but
>> a shorter torso. Anyone with a similar body type have any advice?
>>
>> I have tried women's specific saddles- I tried a Terry Liberator for a
>> while, but it was just SO hard, even though the cutout was fantastic. The
>> same with the Brookses, I always felt like I was sitting on the metal edge
>> or the leather was as unforgiving as wood and as uncomfortable. I'm trying
>> out Riv's new plastic saddle on my Platypus right now. It's sort of
>> comfortable but also feels maybe not quite wide enough. I'll have to give
>> it a few more weeks.
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 7:22:12 AM UTC-7 John Dewey wrote:
>>
>>> Roberta, have you experimented with a cut-out saddle?
>>>
>>> Jock
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 12:20 AM Roberta <rcha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Philadelphia Trek store can measure sits bones. Perhaps there is
>>>> one near you to give you some direction?
>>>>
>>>> I prefer a flat top like the B68 to a rounder top B17. I also have wide
>>>> sits bones, so B17 too narrow for me.   I tilt the saddle nose up, so I’m
>>>> sitting on the flat back part of the saddle.  Otherwise I slide to the
>>>> front sitting on the nose part, and that is very irritating.  Where are you
>>>> sitting on the saddle?
>>>>
>>>> Also take notice where the seams of your underwear are when you’re
>>>> riding as sit bones on seams are irritating.
>>>>
>>>> Roberta
>>>> Philadelphia
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 4:00:24 PM UTC-4 Emily Guise wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello folks, I come to the group with a dilemma. I've never had a
>>>>> saddle that I could ride for longer than 20 miles comfortably. I've always
>>>>> ended up with sore sit bones, numb soft tissue, or both. This has really
>>>>> limited my ability to go on longer trips and after my five day ride on the
>>>>> C&O canal trail last Sept, it was more apparent than ever I need to find a
>>>>> saddle that won't hurt.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've tried dozens of saddles over the last 15 years- leather, plastic,
>>>>> cutouts, no cutouts, wide, medium, softer, harder, you name it. :( Most of
>>>>> the saddles that have stayed on my bikes for longer than a month have a
>>>>> central cut out, are on the wider side, and plastic. They're good for
>>>>> around town, but that's it. I've never had my sit bones measured.
>>>>>
>>>>> It occurred to me recently that because I've never had a truly
>>>>> comfortable long-distance saddle, I have no idea how one feels. So I
>>>>> figured I'd ask the group. How did The One saddle feel for you? Did it
>>>>> "disappear"? Was it love at first sit? Did it need to be adjusted a lot
>>>>> before finding the ideal position? Is there a certain amount of miles you
>>>>> ride before it becomes uncomfortable?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd love to hear the group's collective wisdom so I know what to look
>>>>> for in the next saddle I try out. Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>>
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