That's called "whataboutism". Invoking what you consider inappropriate behavior by others is not relevant. Please stay on topic, and please follow Sage's code of conduct in your posts.
On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 1:01:25 PM UTC-8 Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > > On 27 February 2024 20:44:50 GMT, John H Palmieri <jhpalm...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >Sentences like "At the moment you are actively breaking down the precious > >project fabric, all in the name of you having your way" are personal > >attacks. Please stop. > > Blocking on GitHub members of the project is not a personal attack? > Of course it is. > > > > > >On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 12:36:44 PM UTC-8 Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> On 27 February 2024 19:37:31 GMT, Matthias Koeppe <matthia...@gmail.com> > > >> wrote: > >> >On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 10:50:55 AM UTC-8 John H Palmieri > wrote: > >> > > >> >A pretty safe second choice would be to have "make download" also > >> download > >> >the relevant files for pip installation and tell pip where to find > them. > >> If > >> >we implemented this second choice [...] > >> > > >> > > >> >The problem is that such tooling, even if "trivial", would need to be > >> >implemented, tested, and maintained as well. And typically this just > does > >> >not work when there is no developer who is actually interested in > using > >> it. > >> > >> It is a largely artificially invented, by you, problem, to shoot my > >> proposal down. Besides, these tools are trivial to build and maintain, > much > >> easier than your ever growing and breaking maze of packages we don't > even > >> need to vendor. > >> > >> At the moment you are actively breaking down the precious project > fabric, > >> all in the name of you having your way: > >> > >> you blocked me (without bothering yo even tell me) and perhaps other > >> developers on GitHub, meaning that you effectively want to shut me up. > >> (Well, I had no other choice but to block you too, as a countermeasure; > I > >> installed this block about 12:00 GMT, today.) > >> > >> Of course it's easy to skip this message. But tomorrow it might be you > who > >> Matthias might block, for disagreements with him. > >> Why is this tolerated? This is a naked attempt to shut down the > opposition. > >> > >> > >> > > >> >We are better off with improving the tooling that we already know > *will* > >> >continue to be used: Namely the tooling for creating and maintaining > our > >> >metadata in build/pkgs. > >> > >> Or it will be discarded as useless, because doing things the way > projects > >> like scipy do is better. > >> > >> Your package tooling is makework, repeating with worse tools what > already > >> is done by Conda, Homebrew, Linux distros, etc. We are mainly a maths > >> project, not a distro project. Let us stay this way, and actually do > more > >> maths and less distro-like stuff. > >> > >> Dima > >> > >> > >> > Issues such as: > >> >- https://github.com/sagemath/sage/issues/36356, > >> >- https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/37322, > >> >- https://github.com/sagemath/sage/issues/37323, > >> >- https://github.com/sagemath/sage/issues/37314 > >> > > >> > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/3f85faf4-840a-4965-bd81-797f2733843fn%40googlegroups.com.
