Re: [Friclist] registracija domene
Zdravo! se podpišem pod to. Mal majo počasen vmesnik, pa nobenga APIja, ampak za tsito domeno na leto so zakon. Enako. Jaz tudi imam vse svoje domene pri GoDaddy. Ne uporabljam pa njihovih DNS streznikov, ker imam pac svoje. Mitar
Re: [Friclist] Swing ples, rabijo se fantje
Zdravo! Joj, pozabil napisati cena za fante (last minute popust) je 20 EURO (to sem mislil skoraj zastonj za 4 dni delanic). Ooo. Ze klicem. :-) Mitar
Re: [Friclist] Swing ples, rabijo se fantje
Zdravo! To je edina priložnost, da se hitro od profesionalcev naučiš skoraj ZASTONJ pleati swing in spoznaš luštne punce! 120 EUR je skoraj zastonj (OK, verjetno dobim kaj popusta, ampak ...)? Torej jaz bi se z veseljem pridruzil, lahko sem na vseh delavnicah in povecujem stevilo fantov, tako da se lahko punce kaj ucijo, ampak zal si tega ne morem placati. Torej ce res primanjkuje fantov, potem se lahko javim, da pomagam, ampak placati za to, da pomagam, pa ne morem. (Placati za to, da bi pa samoiniciativno sel tja pa tudi zal ne morem in zato tudi ne grem.) Mitar
[Friclist] [Fwd: [SSFRI] Zbiranje kandidatov za volitve za elektorje]
Zdravo! Posredujem. Mitar Original Message Subject: [SSFRI] Zbiranje kandidatov za volitve za elektorje Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:58:37 +0200 From: Weiss we...@druga.org Reply-To: SSFRI ssfril...@druga.org To: SSFRI ssfril...@druga.org Hej. Pozabil sem vas vse po seji povabiti do skrinjice za oddajo kandidatur... No, nahaja se v avli na drugem stebru levo. Jutri oddajte kandidature in se potrudite prepricati se kaksne sosolce ali sosolke! Po danasnjem sklepu se namrec potrebujemo 9 elektorjev in ze kar nekaj iz SS nas je ze oddalo. Torej kar nekaj ne-svetnikov. Za vas clane SS ni nujno, da prilozite potrdilo o vpisu, ostali pa ga obvezno morajo. Tako da zacnite povabljati in prepricevati ljudi ze danes in najboljse da kar jutri vsi oddate kandidaturo! Poleg osebnega prepricevanja se priporocam, da posljete kaksen poziv na vase mailing liste. Zadnji mozni rok za kandidaturo za elektorje pa je ponedeljek, 4.5.2009, do 12:00. Tukaj pa se nek tekst, ki ga lahko uporabljate pri obrazlozitvi (pri uporabi za reklamo raje malo preoblikujte, ker npr prvi odstavek je bolj nezanimiva pojasnitev, pa manjka se kaksen udarni slogan v stilu: KANDIDIRAJ ZA ELEKTORJA IN POJDI VOLIT REKTORJA UL, tako da uporabite domisljijo in pokazite svojo kreativnost): NAKNADNI RAZPIS ZA VOLITVE ELEKTORJEV ZA VOLITVE REKTORJA UL Senat Univerze v Ljubljani je sprejel sklep o začetku postopka za izvolitev rektorja Univerze v Ljubljani za obdobje 2009 do 2013. Študenti imamo pri tem tudi glasovalno pravico in sicer poteka postopek tokrat tako, da se na posameznih članicah (fakultetah) voli elektorje iz vrst študentov, ki se bodo nato udeležili volitev rektorja in zastopali mnenje nas študentov. Na naši fakulteti je tako potrebno izvoliti vse skupaj 15 elektorjev (1/5 od vseh volilnih upravičencev članice, ki jih je pri nam 71+1, vir: UKE UL (Število zaposlenih visokošolskih učiteljev, visokošolskih sodelavcev in znanstvenih delavcev za polni delovni čas 31.3.2009)). Na ravni celotne univerze pa imamo študenti 477 elektorjev (glasov). Študentski svet FRI je zaradi premalega števila oddanih kandidatur tako objavil naknadni razpis, saj potrebujemo *še 9 elektorjev* iz vrsti študentov. Skrinjica za oddajo kandidatur za elektorje se nahaja v avli na običajni lokaciji (drugi steber levo). Zadnji rok za oddajo kandidatur je 4.5.2009 do 12:00. Volitve elektorjev (potrditev, da smete zastopati študente FRI) bodo potekale v sredo, 6.5.2009, med 9. in 16. uro. Volitve rektorja pa bodo potekale v sredo, 17.6.2009. Glavna naloga elektorja je tako se udeleziti teh volitev in na njih zastopati mnenje študentov FRI. V času med 4.5.2009 in 13.5.2009 bodo organizirane javne predstavitve kandidatov za rektorja nekje na univerzi, verjetno pa tudi pri nam na faksu. V kolikor boste zainteresirani lahko organiziramo tudi okroglo mizo za elektorje na to temo... A najprej potrebujemo kandidate, tako da oddajte kandidaturo in pridite zastopat študente! lp, gregor
Re: [TYPO3-english] typo3 sites and enterprise applications
Dmitry Dulepov wrote: I would never use .NET or Java for server side programming. I'm eager to know why? Please explain. TIA ___ TYPO3-english mailing list TYPO3-english@lists.netfielders.de http://lists.netfielders.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english
[Friclist] Prvo ljubljansko prvenstvo v peki palacink
Zdravo! Posredujem: Prvo ljubljansko prvenstvo v peki palacink! Festival pomladi, Grad Kodeljevo in Radio Nula prirejajo peko v cetrtek, 23. aprila od 16. ure dalje v atriju SEM - Nova Metelkova. Vec: http://www.facebook.com/p.php?i=1190966347k=33CT43W4TXXM5CEAVD24XU Mitar
[Friclist] E-mail.si prenehal z delovanjem
Zdravo! E-mail.si je prenehal z delovanjem in tako nekateri, ki ste bili prijavljeni na to mailing listo z njihovim e-mail naslovom vec ne dobivate stvari, poslanih nanjo. http://24ur.com/novice/it/email-si-ne-deluje-odgovorni-molcijo.html http://www.zps.si/racunalnik-in-telefon/internet/ukinitev-storitve-email.si.html?Itemid=311 Ker tako tudi tega e-maila ne bodo dobili, bi prosil vse, ki jih poznajo, ce jim lahko to na nek nacin posredujejo oziroma sporocijo in jim predlagajo, da se nanjo prijavijo s kaksnim drugim e-mail naslovom. Prijava je mozna tu: http://www.druga.org/cgi-bin/seznami/listinfo/friclist Na listo so bili prijavljeni sledeci uporabniki z e-mail.si naslovom: bzankar, matjaz.milanic, cerarmiha, vezalke, tomi.e, vesna.bitenc, number.one, burekmaker, steyr, smolej, alekol, david_h, impdiablo Mitar
Re: [Friclist] Seznam podaljšanja absolventa
Zdravo! http://www.fri.uni-lj.si/si/novice_in_dogodki/8294/novica.html jupi:)) dolg seznam... A so kaj naredili kaksno izjemo? So bili bolj popustljivi? Mitar
Re: [Friclist] Vloga za podaljšanje absolvetsk ega statusa
Zdravo! tako je. Kdor je pozabu, lahko še danes kao pripročeno pošlje. Rabte obrazec, izpolnite, dodate pojasnilo če je treba in se pošlje. Hm, oddati v nabiralnik na faksu je torej sedaj prepozno? Mitar
Re: [Friclist] Vloga za podaljšanje absolvetsk ega statusa
Zdravo! verjeten lohka, gled ena to da 20.marca še ni konc :) Hja, samo do ne pomeni nujno vkljucujoc 20. marca. :-) Mitar
Re: [Friclist] Vloga za podaljšanje absolvetsk ega statusa
Zdravo! Saj po mojem glede tega ne komplicirajo. V ponedeljek bodo pac pobrali kaj se bo naslo in to je to. Mitar
Re: [Friclist] Re: MIS
Zdravo! spletna stran ZVRSa pravi da: 24.03.2009 [ob 16:00 v P1] Hm, ali ni bilo nekaj receno, da bo 4. 3. ali nekje takrat? Torej da je le uradno ta rok 24. 3., izvajal pa se bo kasneje? Ne vem, kje sem to prebral. Mitar
Re: [Friclist] Re: MIS
Zdravo! Sicer je pa dokaj ziher, da ZVRS bo 24.3. ob 16h v PR01. Ne, zamesal sem z OTIjem. Tam so razpisali rok prej (31. 3.), realno pa se bo izvajal kasneje (6. 4.). Mitar
Re: [Friclist] Umetna inteligenca 2
Zdravo! ne vem al sem spregledal, al se pol niste nic zmenili glede roka za UI2. Ce se dobro spomnim, je bilo dovolj prijavljenih. Ce ni rok dolocen, bi ga lahko imeli 27. ali 30,31 marec. Naceloma pa kadarkoli po 23-em. Nekaj smo se potem odjavljali, ko se je pokazalo, da so se drugi roki za druge predmete na voljo. Mitar
Re: [Friclist] Re: MIS
Zdravo! Rok za MIS je razpisan - 24.03.2009 Kdaj in kje pa se bo res pisalo? Kje lahko to pogledam? Vem, da se je nekaj o tem pisalo tu, ampak bi rad si tocno vnesel v koledarcek. :-) Mitar
Re: [Friclist] ukinitev enega roka
Zdravo! Bi bil ukinjen izpitni rok lahko argument za podaljsanje absolventa? Saj nam faks ni nudil enakih pogojev kot presnja leta... Vidis, to pa je beseda. Tista pravila za podaljsanje so bila pisana takrat, ko sta bila dva roka, torej ne morejo enaka veljati tudi sedaj, ko je bil eden. :-) Je pa res, da je v praksi kar nekaj profesorjev sedaj razpisalo izredne roke. A izmed teh ti noben ne koristi? Mitar
Re: [Friclist] Umetna inteligenca 2
Zdravo! Eden manj za UI2... jaz grem delat raje MIS. Eden manj tudi tukaj. Ne bo zneslo sicer. Torej: 2) 63030163 4) 63010005 5) 63010058 6) 63990354 Mitar
[Friclist] [Fwd: Red Bull Paper Wings - Razsiri svoja papirnata krila]
Zdravo! Ha, zanimivo. Mitar - Se se spomnis tistih brezskrbnih dni svojega otrostva, ko si s prijatelji plezal po drevesih, se igral ristanc in skrivalnice? Kaj ne bi bilo lepo, ko bi se za nekaj trenutkov lahko ponovno vrnil v tisti cas in se preizkusil v vescini, ki ti je sla takrat najbolje od rok? V izdelovanju in metanju papirnatih letal, seveda! Red Bull Paper Wings je studentsko tekmovanje v spretnosti metanja letal, narejenih zgolj iz navadnega A4 lista. Tekmovanje poteka v 85 drzavah po vsem svetu in nanj se lahko brezplacno prijavi vsak prek uradne spletne strani www.redbullpaperwings.com. List papirja prejmes na sami lokaciji, tako ne potrebujes nicesar razen dobre ideje in moci v rokah. Svoje sposobnosti lahko preizkusiš v treh kategorijah: Najdaljsa razdalja, Najdaljsi cas letenja in/ali Akrobatsko letenje. Trenutni svetovni rekord Najdaljse razdalje je 63,19 metrov, Najdaljsega casa letenja pa 27,6 sekund. V Sloveniji bodo najprej potekale 3 kvalifikacije, ki jim bo sledilo finale. Prvouvrsceni v vsaki kategoriji bo osvojil vstopnico na svetovno finale Red Bull Paper Wings 2009, ki bo1. in 2. maja v Hangarju-7 v Salzburgu, kjer se nahaja tudi zbirka zelo redkih zgodovinskih letal. Tam pa te ne bodo cakali le aktualni drzavni prvaki, temveč tudi branilci naslovov iz leta 2006, ko se je odvijalo prvo tekmovanje te vrste. * * * * *Slovenske kvalifikacije* Portoroz, 3.3.2009, ob 12:00 - Telovadnica pomorskega in tehnicnega izobrazevalnega centra Ljubljana, 10.3.2009, ob 12:00 - Ekonomska fakulteta Maribor, 17.3.2009, ob 12:00 - Avla Fakultete za elektrotehniko, racunalništvo in informatiko *Slovensko finale* Maribor, 17.3.2009, ob 13:30 - Avla Fakultete za elektrotehniko, racunalnistvo in informatiko Pridi in dokazi, da znas se vedno narediti najboljse papirnato letalo! Stevilo tekmovalcev je omejeno. Vec informacij lahko najdes na spletni strani www.redbullpaperwings.com, ce kliknes na slovensko zastavo.
Re: [Friclist] Peticija... Nic te ne stane.
Zdravo! Ne bo ti vzelo veliko časa, lahko pa tvoj podpis veliko spremeni. Evropski parlament se je odločil, da podpre uvedbo cepiva proti raku na materničnem vratu, v kolikor se bo po celi Evropi zbralo miljon podpisov. Trenutno jih je zbranih okoli 250 tisoč, kar je že četrtina. Če se zbere potrebnih miljon podpisov, se bo uvedlo cepljenje za deklice v starosti okoli 9-12 let v programih nacionalnega cepljenja (kar seveda pomeni, da bo zastonj). Zanimivo je to, da to o uvedbi cepiva na strani, kamor je link in kjer se zbirajo podpisi, ne pise: http://www.cervicalcancerpetition.eu/main.php?pos=stop Zavajanje, verjetno dobronamerno, ampak vseeno zavajanje. Mitar
Re: [Friclist] Podaljsanje absolventa
Zdravo! A je potrebno da mu še kdo pošlje osebno mail z povpraševanjem..da vidi da je zanimanje za konec marca ? :D Cakaj, ali jaz cesa ne razumem, ampak ... a ni tako, da bi moral rok biti nekaj casa pred 20. marcem, da bi lahko se on imel ustne in vpisal ocene? Vsaj za podaljsanje absolventa bi moralo biti tako ... Mitar
Re: [Friclist] Umetna inteligenca 2
Zdravo! Kak pa je s tem? Je treba met narjeno seminarsko iz prejšnjega leta? Jaz imam recimo narejeno seminarsko za UI1. Moras imeti narejeno seminarsko pri UI2. Mitar
Re: another reason to keep ExcludeNodes
Hi! On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Scott Bennett benn...@cs.niu.edu wrote: I just read Roger's message from July 2006 on playing down the use of ExcludeNodes and maybe eventually eliminating it. I encountered a reason to use it not long ago that doesn't seem to have been mentioned. I noticed that certain image files that are frequently updated and that I look at many times a day were getting truncated at random points in the files. After a little bit of investigation it turned out that one particular relay was always in a circuit that truncated those files, so I added it to my ExcludeNodes list. And voila' complete images from then on. Would not it be better if you would report this node so that its problem can be fixed? Mitar
Re: [Friclist] Podaljsanje absolventa
Zravo! MIS: 1. 63030178 2. 63030057 3. 63030160 4. 63010149 5. 63030173 ZVRS 1. 63030188 2. 63030173 UI2 1. 63030173 Mitar
[Friclist] Podaljsanje absolventa
Zdravo! Kaj sedaj, programska oprema, komu se manjka kaksen pogoj za podaljsanje absolventa in bi mu prav prisel kaksen izredni rok? Za katerega bi se odlocili? Komu bi pisali? Mitar
[Friclist] Love
Zdravo! http://www.shrani.si/f/3n/fV/291zbH4q/whatislove.swf Mitar
Re: Tor speed
Hi! On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:52 AM, slush sl...@slush.cz wrote: You are absolutely right. It is what reason why I calculated maximum technical latencies, in previous email (simply max ~ 7 seconds). Have you tried other browsers? For example some text only browser? Maybe they have different strategy for loading and displaying things which is better for user experience over links with larger latency. (Like displaying just HTML without images and CSS and JS at the beginning and then slowly everything else.) This would be an interesting thing to measure - how different browsers cope with latencies and how the user experience this strategies. Mitar
Re: Tor speed
Hi! On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 9:55 AM, slush sl...@slush.cz wrote: My guess is that some nodes simply dont give me a slot for my data, because somebody else is transfering something big, what kill the bandwidth for a moment. And because there are three nodes in the line, it is the big probability I hit this problem on more nodes - and I will finally very slow responsibility. I have another idea (which is not necessary excluding yours and is maybe just another factor/reason). Maybe Tor network is not just bandwidth bounded but also CPU bounded. For example, on my Tor node I had to increase the queue for onions size as CPU was not fast enough to cope immediately with bursts of onions (it is a 5 MB/s node). On average it is more than fast enough but there are bursts which it was not able to handle. And such bursts are probably connected with web page browsing - an user sends a lot of requests at the same time when it opens a web page. And what happens (my hypothesis) is that those go to the queue and wait for the CPU to handle them. And once they are handled they are (because of the high bandwidth) handled very fast, send back and user gets everything in the same moment (they were close to each other in the queue). I do not know what is the average waiting time for onions in the queue on my node. Maybe all this is nothing and with increasing the queue size I just increased the average waiting time from 1 ms to 5 ms. But maybe I increased it to 5 s. Who knows? Is there any way to measure it? Mitar
Re: Tor speed
Hi! On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Scott Bennett benn...@cs.niu.edu wrote: By reinventing TCP within tor, the proponent(s) believe they can achieve better overall performance, even though they lose the basic operating-system level of support for reliable delivery in the process and I think they lose one layer of encryption, as well. I would go with this question further: why reinventing TCP over UDP again in general? General solutions and implementations for that already exist. For example, Tor could just simply add another layer with OpenVPN (or just OpenVPN based) system. One hackish, to show my idea, solution could be to build first a world wide VPN network based on OpenVPN with internal IPs, each Tor node would get one. Modify Tor nodes to open a new TCP circuit (even if it already exists) with a target node for every data stream. And this is it. Data streams would not be multiplexed in one TCP session (hm, does this decrease security?) so if one TCP stream has packet loss this will not influence other, and rebuilding a TCP connection from UDP packets would be done by OpenVPN. I am not suggesting to implement this. I am just saying that a lot of (open source) work of making TCP over UDP has already been made. They may be correct about that, but I am still wondering why UDP has been chosen over SCTP, which looks to me as though it would provide just about anything alternative that might be useful in improving throughput, reliable delivery, and signalling, but that is a question that no one has responded to so far. Maybe because SCTP is not yet widely supported? Good reading about TCP over TCP: http://sites.inka.de/~W1011/devel/tcp-tcp.html Mitar
Re: Tor speed
Hi! On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 3:13 PM, slush sl...@slush.cz wrote: It is probably just luck, that these nodes are free now. Do you agree that this is not typical case, right? Please do read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_of_experiments So where in your tests are at least: - randomization - replication - blocking You cannot check only once and then conclude anything from that. Tor network is really a place where you should do a statistical research as is almost as far from deterministic as it can be. So, for example: - measure multiple times - try different circuits, different nodes - all this choose randomly - and repeat, repeat, at different hours, different days for some larger period of time Mitar
Re: Tor speed
Hi! On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 8:00 PM, slush sl...@slush.cz wrote: During last year of my playing with Tor network I did plenty of test in different days, random circuits, fixed-order circuits and so on, of course. But Im just surprised by speed in ONE random test with wget, because I know, that is far away of typical behaviour. It is all. And the conspiracy was bad joke, of course ;-). Was this done systematically? Mitar
Re: Tor speed
Hi! On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 4:07 PM, F. Fox kitsune...@gmail.com wrote: If I understand this correctly, node-to-node transmission would still be adding another layer of TCP sequencing to any underlying TCP connection sent into the network on the client end; however, that new TCP sequence wouldn't be in the clear as it previously was, but would be encapsulated courtesy OpenVPN's UDP engine. You definitely use better terminology than me. :-) This is why I wrote that Tor should make a new circuit for every top TCP-based protocol. So Tor would map TCP connection to one circuit so other TCP connections would be independent from underlying transmission errors. Sorry, I do not know how I would describe this idea better. As is was only one simple thought: use already implemented things. Mitar
[Friclist] Draga fakulteta
Zdravo! http://www.dragafakulteta.si/ (Bi lahko kdo objavil se na fri-info, ce ze ni.) Mitar
Re: [Friclist] Draga fakulteta
Zdravo! Tole je kr neki, sorry. Zakaj? Mitar
Re: [Friclist] Draga fakulteta
Zdravo! Prvič je odnos čist hipijevski, In kaj je s tem tocno narobe? To si sedaj napisal, kot da je nekaj s tem narobe. Nekateri smo pac taksni po dusi. Če hoče on izkušnje pri delu, naj gre na visokošolsko, ne pa uni... sploh pa naj gre raje na srednjo tehnično (Vegova) in se zaposli takoj po srednji šoli, pa bo dobil izkušnje. Očitno ne razume, da fakulteta ni namenjena temu, da bo on pridobival izkušnje za delo. To ni res. Ni potrebno, da se ti dve stvari izkljucujeta. Z malo bolj realno-uporabnimi problemi/seminarskimi pri predmetih bi lahko dobili kar nekaj izkusenj ze skozi njih. In kaksnimi primerjavami oziroma posredovanji znanj iz realnih sistemov. Recimo z uporabo aktualnih tehnologij za primere, ki se jih ucimo. In podobno. Je kar nekaj prostora, kjer bi se lahko taksna znanja predajala. Aja pa nikjer ne vidim, koliko jih je glasovalo za mnenje, za katerega sem tudi jaz glasoval :) Vidis tu: http://www.dragafakulteta.si/top25/fri/ Je pa res, da je to malo cudno, da ne pokaze. Zato pa mu lahko pises, ce ti kaj ni vsec. Mitar
Re: [Friclist] Draga fakulteta
Zdravo! A je že kdo slišal za MIT? Mesna industrija? Mitar
Re: [Friclist] Draga fakulteta
Zdravo! Hippies, hippies... they want to save the world but all they do is smoke pot and play frisbee! Frizbi pa je res super igra. Lahko se zmenimo, da gremo kdaj kaj v Tivoli, ko bo bolj soncno. Mitar
Re: [Friclist] Draga fakulteta
Zdravo! Jaz ne razumem, saj ta spletna stran se gradi s strani uporabnikov. Ce mislis, da mnenje ni OK, lahko kliknes, da se naj odstrani. Ce se z njim strinjas, kliknes, da se z njim strinjas. Ce se ne, kliknes, da se ne. Torej ... stran je taksna, ker so tisti, ki so vnasali, in ker so tisti, ki niso vnasali, taksni. :-) Mitar
Re: Time Warner bad / VPS recommendations
Hi! On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 3:36 AM, Scott Bennett benn...@cs.niu.edu wrote: Please go read the tor man page again. Specifically, you should reread the material on the ExitPolicy statement in the torrc file. The proper way to prevent exits on port 80 is to use an ExitPolicy that rejects port 80 for whatever destination IP addresses the operator wishes to reject from port 80 exits. It really is not very complicated in concept or difficult to do. In practice there is a problem: ExitPolicy is limited in size. So for example default allow all with a long list of denied IPs (for example Bittorrent trackers) is not possible. I have tried and failed. Sadly. Mitar
Re: [Friclist] Barve in oci
Zdravo! To si pa ne predstavljam čist, kok bi to programu lahko ratal. Maš mogoče ime programa, da si mal pogledam kje (mogoče youtube). Drugač si bom pa js tud kmal hackintosha naredu, pa bom mogoče sprobu tale programček. http://docs.blacktree.com/nocturne/nocturne Mitar
Re: Time Warner bad / VPS recommendations
Hi! On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Matthew McCabe mate...@mrmccabe.com wrote: Also, you could setup an independent auditing system in which Tor experts could examine the Tor boxes or VPSs to be sure that they are not compromised. But then ... who will watch the watchers? Mitar
Re: Time Warner bad / VPS recommendations
Hi! On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:52 PM, slush sl...@slush.cz wrote: Although Im big Tor fan, I think it is better idea to run Tor in unused bandwith (like me) on plenty of computers rather than pay together few big centralized servers (like you offer). Firstly, using unused bandwidth is for free. And it is also more secure. I agree and this is also the way I am using my bandwidth. But on the other hand I am seeing many e-mails like I would like to contribute to Tor but my ISP/university/mom does not allow me/has blocked me/does not want to hassle. So maybe those could cooperate in a way of putting together such nodes. Mitar
Re: Time Warner bad / VPS recommendations
Hi! On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Ted Smith ted...@gmail.com wrote: TorProject has a paypal donations account that people (like those people who cannot run a node, but wish to contribute) can send donations to. Those donations, in turn, are requested by node operators who run high-bandwidth, permissive-exit-policy (I'd think no more restrictive than the default) nodes at cost to themselves. Additionally, TorProject could host a list of node operators that either don't qualify for the above request process or need more than it can offer to allow users to donate directly to node operators. I do not see a reason why we would introduce middle-men. This could also have a potential of changing a focus from building an open and free network not operated by any entity to a focus on collecting donations. Donations should just be a mean not a goal and adding an organizational/administrative burden tends to induct the later. Another possibility (albeit much more extreme) is to allow a donation link metadata item for Tor nodes. This removes any dependency on the Tor Project handling funds. This could be a good idea. Adding a possibility of putting a donation buttons on a main Tor project page so that visitors could decide to which node they would like to donate (and to scatter those donations between nodes). (Maybe add some statistics and such.) But I would like to see those donations only like some kind of an award/bonus for running a node. I do not really see it as a reason for running a node. Nor that they would suffice for covering the costs. Nodes should not be dependent on donations. Even if the funds are somewhat diminutive, I think this would provide a bit of incentive to start running a node and to keep running a node in the face of censorship. I doubt so. I do not see how this would influence your ISP which are the most often the reason why people (have to) shut them down. And also in most cases running a Tor node does not increase bandwidth expenses as people are running them on their free (unused) bandwidth. I was not so much thinking about donations from random people. Those are/would be nice. But I see there a possibility of people which would like to run a node to get together and cooperate. So those people directly, without middle-men, without dependency on random donations. Like: I can donate 5 EUR/month for a Tor node. But this is not enough. So who else would like to join? And if there would be 20 people who would agree on such commitment then we/they would be able to rise a node together. But they would work together directly and they would be those who would donate. So maybe we could make a wiki page or something where people would ensign for such a cooperation. And when there would be enough people they could work out the details (where, which ISP, which hardware...) and put a new node online. Mitar
Re: Time Warner bad / VPS recommendations
Hi! On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:11 AM, Ted Smith ted...@gmail.com wrote: Why put one node online when you could put hundreds online, by creating enough incentive to balance the potential risk of ISP complaints? I do not see those two ideas excluding each other. :-) So yes, such field in metadata + support for it in Vidalia would be really great. I see your point and I agree that maybe the possibility of such donations (and later on when somebody put a node online also their reality) would be enough push for some to start doing it. I am little bit skeptical about that though. But would people (users) donate? Because donations would not be anonymous (or can they be?) they would in this way somehow say that they are using Tor (which is maybe something they would like to hide). I just wanted to stress that there is also another approach/possibility which uses regular and arranged donations from a more or less fixed group of people (for each node) to form a new node. Mitar
[Friclist] Barve in oci
Zdravo! A ve kdo kaj je boljse za oci? Imeti vmesnik (okna, editorje ...) s crnim besedilom na beli/svetli podlagi in belo/svetlo besedilo na crni podlagi? Ker vecina operacijskih sistemov in vmesnikom ima po privzetem prvo, ampak meni se zdi, da je za oci boljse, ce cimmanj sveti monitor. Po drugi strani pa je tako, da sedaj, ko sem si zamenjal na belo besedilo na crnem ozadju vse, se mi zdi, da se oci veliko bolj mucijo z branjem in gledanjem, kot da bi bilo to slabse in bi moral oci bolj naprezati, kar ne izgleda ravno dober znak. Tako da ... kaj menite ostali? Imate kaksne izkusnje s tem? Glede na to, da bo to nas kruh, bi se verjetno morali nauciti, kako si pripraviti delovno okolje tako, da je cimbolj zdravo. O argonomiji in tem se sploh nicesar nismo ucili ... Mitar
Re: [Friclist] Barve in oci
Zdravo! Sam knjige so bele, ker bi bil tisk takšnih s črnim ozadjem way dražji al ne? Hm Da. Torej tam je to iz prakticnih (in mogoce estetskih/navade) razlogov predvsem. Mitar
Re: [Friclist] Barve in oci
Zdravo! Moje razmisljanje je nekako taksno: - ali je boljse, da pada v oci manj energije, kar pomeni, da celice v ocesu sprejemajo manj energije, in da ta energija, ki pa pade, doloca crke - ali je boljse, da pada veliko energije, kar pomeni, da se je celicam lazje aktivirati, in da neaktivirane celice dolocajo crke Torej ce gledam fotoaparat, ta bolje deluje, ce pade vanj veliko svetlobe. Po drugi strani pa gledanje v zarnico ne vpliva najboljse. Men se zdi, da je pr tem *najbolj pomembn kontrast* (med okolico in tem, kar gledaš). Če maš malo televizijo v čist temni sobi, pol bo to po moje slabo za oči, ker se oči prilagodijo temi, ti pa pol gledaš v neki full svetlega. Za razliko je pa v kinu ekran ogromen, tko da je velik del vidnega prostora, kamor gledajo oči, svetel. Se strinjam. To se tudi meni zdi najbolj pomembno. Tko da js zvečer, kadar sm na računalniku, si *čim bolj osvetlim ozadje in zmanjšam svetlost monitorja*, da ni prevelkega kontrasta med okolico in monitorjem. Da, tudi jaz. To sem delal do sedaj in sedaj sem zacel razmisljati, kako bi lahko izboljsal to. Sm neki časa probavu z različnimi idejami, kok bi mel ozadje vedno temno in črke svetle (ponoči, seveda), pa ni najbolj ratval: Jaz pa sem nasel za Maca en super program, ki ohranja hue barve, le kontrast okoli obrne. In to v popolnosti vsemu. (Se filmom. To je to, ce ti celoten GUI temelji na OpenGLu, potem lahko vrzes eno transformacijo cez in to je to.) Tako da ni cisto inverz, ni pa tudi res, da se barve cisto ohranijo. Ampak za delo (moje je predvsem tekstovno, programiranje, pisanje in podobno), je to super. Tudi za spletne strani sem nasel super dodatek: http://shadowlord13.googlepages.com/invertColors.html Sem pa ga moral malo predelati, da deluje pametno v kombinaciji s tistim drugim programom (ker sicer je ta obrnil barve na crno, potem pa mi jih je tisti prvi program vrnil na belo, tako da sem moral malo obrniti delovanje tega programa). Rezultat je kar lepo delovanje, samo potem, ko sem si vse naredil v belo besedilo, vec nisem preprican, ce je to najboljse. :-) Mitar
Re: Time Warner bad / VPS recommendations
Hi! On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 8:50 PM, slush sl...@slush.cz wrote: Yes, Im using linode.com, plan Linode 720. Tor runs without any problem (but my bandwidth is only about 150kB/s; there are another network services too). Interesting. That is $40/month with 400 GB limit. I have a collocation for around 110 EUR per month for 100 Mbit/s best-effort with no limit on data transfer and yet without any problems with ISP (they said that it is not their issue what I am running on my server). So ... maybe ... there is an idea. I could offer to setup Tor nodes with this ISP with simple CPU/RAM/diskless/self updatable/no logs systems for 100 Mbit/s default policy exit nodes. If anybody would like to monthly contribute/donate money for collocation and this initial hardware. Or few people together. I just do not know what would ISP say if they would have multiple such nodes there. Maybe they would become less liberal. Mitar
Re: Time Warner bad / VPS recommendations
Hi! You raise important questions: how many tor relays currently listed in the directory are running on hardware owned by the same entity? And how many of those are on hardware physically located at the same site? And if they are using virtual servers within the same ISP... Is it possible to get a three-hop circuit using relays that are ostensibly being operated by different individuals, but which are all running on the same physical machine because the operators all subscribe to the same company's hosting service? Whois and geoip could help you at least in some way with approximating how many such circuits (which do not use nodes listed as a family of nodes) could exist. It would be a rough estimate though. Maybe we could make a script which would go over whois data and e-mail operators so that they could cooperate end enter those nodes as a family. Or maybe this could be an automated process? (To check when building a circuit if nodes are of the same ISP.) Mitar
Re: read() returns ETIMEDOUT
Hi! sysctl net.inet.tcp | grep keep net.inet.tcp.keepidle: 720 net.inet.tcp.keepintvl: 75000 net.inet.tcp.keepinit: 75000 net.inet.tcp.always_keepalive: 1 I am using FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE on amd64 architecture and bge network interface. Server has around 5 MB/s (megabytes) almost constant rx/tx rate. I use pf firewall and there are a lot of connections opened, for example, some pf states stats: State Table Total Rate current entries17042 searches 675209641714750.6/s inserts 66200602 144.6/s removals66183560 144.6/s I have been sending a TCP/IP data with netcat listening on the server side and netcat sending from the client. It was not so fast connection (around 50 kB/s (kilobytes) connection on average) but it was a stable steady sending. Server has much more bandwidth available. The connection has lasted only around 12 minutes and only 30 MB of data has been transferred until the time the server closed the connection. The problem is that this is repeatable (I have repeated this test many times) and under such load it happens always. If I disable/cancel all other load on the server the connection is not broken by the server. (3) TCP retransmit timer reaches its full exponntial backoff without being ACK'd. (tcp_timer_rexmt) I believe it is because of this. I could not insert kernel printf as I am unable to reboot the server at the moment but I have been checking drop counters with netstat and at the moment the connection broke connections dropped by rexmit timeout counter increased. It is true that the counters are increasing almost all the time under the load but I believe that I have timed this correctly. It would also be useful, if possible, to look at the tcpdump for the last portion of the connection, perhaps ideally from the second-to-last ACK from the remote host to the connection reset from the local end. It might be worth running tcpdump on both sides to see if they see the same thing -- for example, does one side think it's sending ACKs and the other not receive it? I have put complete logs on the net: http://mitar.tnode.com/Temp/timeout-tcpdump-client.txt.gz http://mitar.tnode.com/Temp/timeout-tcpdump-server.txt.gz Client is NATed behind a router on a different ISP. In the previous thread, it looked a bit like the outcome was that there was a memory exhaustion issue under load, and that bumping nmbclusters helped at least defer that problem. So it would be useful to see the output of netstat -m before and after (for as small an epsilon as you can make it) the connection is timed out. I realize capturing the above sorts of data can be an issue on high-load boxes but if we can, it would be quite helpful. Regardless of that, knowing if you're seeing allocation errors in the netstat -m output would be helpful. I doubt that it is a memory issue as I have been monitoring those allocations and they do not come near max values. current netstat -m output is: 10657/8228/18885 mbufs in use (current/cache/total) 8248/7388/15636/25600 mbuf clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 8248/5994 mbuf+clusters out of packet secondary zone in use (current/cache) 1839/774/2613/12800 4k (page size) jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 0/0/0/6400 9k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 0/0/0/3200 16k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 26857K/19929K/46786K bytes allocated to network (current/cache/total) 0/0/0 requests for mbufs denied (mbufs/clusters/mbuf+clusters) 0/0/0 requests for jumbo clusters denied (4k/9k/16k) 0/0/0 sfbufs in use (current/peak/max) 0 requests for sfbufs denied 0 requests for sfbufs delayed 27072 requests for I/O initiated by sendfile 0 calls to protocol drain routines Mitar ___ freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-net-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
[Friclist] [Fwd: [lj-wlan] Raziskovanje GSM tehnologije]
Zdravo! Definitivno zveni zanimivo. Mitar Original Message Subject: [lj-wlan] Raziskovanje GSM tehnologije Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 12:43:07 +0100 From: Matej Kovacic matej.kova...@owca.info Reply-To: Ljubljansko WLAN omrezje lj-w...@lists.frubsd.org To: Ljubljansko WLAN omrezje lj-w...@lists.frubsd.org Pozdrav, sicer je tale mailing lista namenjena lj-wlan projektu, vendar pa si jo bom drznil zlorabiti za informacijo in vabilo k sodelovanju pri nekoliko podobnem projektu. Za off-topic se že vnaprej opravičujem. GSM telefonija je zanimivo a iz vidika informacijske varnosti žal še precej neraziskano področje informacijske tehnologije. Znano je, da GSM pri prenosu podatkov uporablja šifriranje, in znano je, da se da GSM pogovore kljub temu prestrezati. Znani so tudi nekateri teoretični kriptoanalitični napadi na A5 algoritem za šifriranje GSM pogovorov. A javno objavljenih podatkov o tem je malo. Prav tako je malo javno objavljenih podatkov o raznih zlorabah (exploitih) mobilnih telefonov in GSM omrežja, pa tudi o različnih skritih funkcionalnostih GSM telefonije. Ker me stvar zanima, sem se pred kakšnim letom prijavil na poštni seznam GSM Software projekta, katerega cilj je bil razviti odprtokodno programsko opremo za poganjanje bazne postaje ter odprtokodno prisluškovalno napravo za GSM za ceno manj kot 1000 EUR. Projekt (predvsem kriptoanaliza A5) je zašel v težave in vse skupaj je propadlo... do pred kakšnim mesecem, ko so projekt ponovno oživili pri Computer Chaos Clubu. Če vas zanima, se lahko organiziramo in pridružimo projektu. Namen slovenske skupine bi bil predvsem sodelovanje v uradnem projektu, iskanje in izmenjava informacij in morebiti testiranje programske in strojne opreme. Kogar zanima sodelovanje, ga vabim na uvodno predstavitev projekta, ki bo predvidoma (če ne bom zbolel) ta PETEK popoldan v LJUBLJANI. Kogar zanima naj mi pošlje e-mail in mu bom v naslednjih dneh sporočil točno lokacijo in uro. Na neformalni predstavitvi bom predstavil naslednje teme: - splošno o projektu starem in novem projektu, zakaj je projekt odprtokoden in zakaj je prišlo do težav pri prejšnjem projektu; - osnovna analiza SIM kartic z odprtokodno programsko opremo in odprtokodnim čitalcem za nekaj EUR; - kriptoanaliza GSM algoritma A5 in opis potrebne strojne opreme; - dekodiranje GSM protokola z opremo za nekaj EUR; - poganjanje odprtokodnega GSM omrežja - OpenBTS projekt in postavitev testnega GSM omrežja v Black Rock Cityu; - nekateri oddaljeni exploiti za GSM (nevidni ping GSM telefona, dostopanje do SIM kartice preko omrežja, poganjanje programov na telefonu preko omrežja,...). Kot rečeno gre predvsem za to, da se za začetek srečamo vsi, ki nas zanima raziskovanje te tehnologije ter da si začnemo izmenjevati informacije, znanje in izkušnje. lp, Matej ___ lj-wlan mailing list lj-w...@lists.frubsd.org https://lists.frubsd.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lj-wlan
Re: read() returns ETIMEDOUT
Hi! I have found also: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/108670 http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-net/2007-February/013095.html I am using FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE. Mitar ___ freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-net-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
read() returns ETIMEDOUT
Hi! Is there any progress on this error reported: http://freebsd.monkey.org/freebsd-net/200805/msg00026.html I have the same or very similar issue. On my server large HTTP uploads are failing because there are only one direction data transmissions (when reading/receiving a request) and kernel drops connections after some time with ETIMEDOUT returning from read() even if transmissions are doing just fine with steady speed, tested at different speeds. Is there any workaround currently known? Mitar ___ freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-net-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [Friclist] MIT OPEN SOURCE
Zdravo! MIT je naredu open source course ware ... ce koga zanimajo predavanja z mit http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/web/home/home/index.htm To je sedaj nekaj novega? Mislim, so kaj spremenili? Ker dostop do svojih posnetkov so ze dolgo imeli? Mitar
Re: [Friclist] [Fwd: Re: Izpit pri IPPO]
Zdravo! A kdo ve, kdaj bodo rezultati? Rekel je, da bo upa, da bo popravil do cetrtka. Kaj pa ogled? V petek verjetno. Mitar
Re: [Friclist] [Fwd: Re: Izpit pri IPPO]
Zdravo! Ja, jaz sem isto razmišljal... Torej narediš fourierja čez IA, nato deliš s fourierjem od filtra (filter si verjetno moral imeti podan, sicer ne gre?), potem pa še inverznega foruierja čez to kar ti ostane in dobiš originalno sliko. Nisem pa vedel, kakšne so tu težave... torej napišem, da se izgubijo visoke frekvence? Ne, ne v splosnem. Pac odvisno, kaj dela ta prvi filter. Ampak ponavadi je tako, da nekatere frekvence zmanjsa. (Pri glajenju pac visoke frekvence.) In potem ko neke frekvence zmanjsa, je vprasanje, kako jih lahko dobis nazaj. Tudi ce imas potem filter, ki dela obratno - da visoke frekvence poveca (kar bi naj bilo deljenje z njim). V idealnih pogojih bo poveceval nicle - kar pomeni, da je delovanje nedefinirano. V slabsih (realnih) pogojih, pa bo poveceval nek sum, netocnosti prvega filtra (ker prvi filter ni popoln in ne zadusi vseh visokih frekvenc). Torej bos dobil kot rezultat pri visokih frekvencah le povecane napake prvega filtra, kar pa so ponavadi potem kaksni artifakti in podobno. In to se ojacani! Sploh razmisljam, ce obstaja res deljenje z matriko. Verjetno obstaja le mnozenje z inverzom. Torej je morebitna tezava ze v tem, da inverza sploh ni. Oziroma ima kaksne neskoncnosti. :-) Recimo ce imas filter, ki ima same nicle. Kako bos potem dobil nazaj karkoli? Je nedefinirano, ker inverz bi vseboval neskoncnosti. Torej ce obstaja dobro definiran inverz, potem bi verjetno slo. Pa se takrat se lahko pojavijo racunske oziroma kvantizacijske tezave. Ker bos lahko poveceval mala stevila v velik razpon. Se posebej, ce si prej zaokrozil. Torej imel si razpon 0-255, naredil si filter, ki je recimo delil z 20, dobil si neko malo vrednost, si jo zaokrozil, ko mnozis nazaj z 20, dobis drugo vrednost. Meni ni jasna 1. naloga iz: http://www.e-studij.si/UL/FRI/UNI-RI/RZ/Izpiti/2008-06-0 Kaj imajo tangente in kroznice s Houghov transformom? Ali je to preprosto vhodna slika algoritma in ti moras na njej izvesti Houghov transform? Jaz grem pocasi na faks. Bom nekje v knjiznici ali kje, ce bo komu, da se malo prej kaj dobimo. Mitar
Re: [Friclist] [Fwd: Re: Izpit pri IPPO]
Zdravo! S Houghovim transformom lahko iščeš krožnice, v parametričnem prostoru, tako kot črte. V tej nalogi imaš pač podani tangenti na neko krožnico, ki jo iščeš. Poiščeš jo pa potem z izvajanjem Hougha na podanih točkah. Samo tista resitev na E-studiju meni ni jasna. OK, vstavljas tocke v parametricno enacbo enega parametra (ta prosti parameter, spremenljivka, je a). Ker je ta enacba kvadraticna, potem dobis dve resitvi. In torej to pomeni, da v parametricnem prostoru ne rises nobenih krivulj, ampak le dve tocki. In to naredis za vse tri vhodne tocke in potem pogledas kje v parametricnem prostoru si narisal najveckrat isto parametricno tocko. Torej kje so tu kaksne krivulje v parametricnem prostoru? Mitar
Re: [Friclist] [Fwd: Re: Izpit pri IPPO]
Zdravo! Samo tista resitev na E-studiju meni ni jasna. OK, vstavljas tocke v parametricno enacbo enega parametra (ta prosti parameter, spremenljivka, je a). Ker je ta enacba kvadraticna, potem dobis dve resitvi. In torej to pomeni, da v parametricnem prostoru ne rises nobenih krivulj, ampak le dve tocki. In to naredis za vse tri vhodne tocke in potem pogledas kje v parametricnem prostoru si narisal najveckrat isto parametricno tocko. Torej kje so tu kaksne krivulje v parametricnem prostoru? Oziroma jaz moram narisati potem premico v tem parametricnem prostoru, kjer vrednosti te parametricne tocke uporabim kot parametre premice? A je premica? Mitar
[Friclist] Studij v Avstraliji
Zdravo! http://www.infopeka.org/Aktualno.php?Program=6650 Mitar
Re: [Friclist] [Fwd: Re: Izpit pri IPPO]
Zdravo! A ni ravno obratno? Kolikor se meni zdi, Leonardis predava po tisti drugi knjigi. Aaa. Kaj sedaj? Mitar
[Friclist] [Fwd: Re: Izpit pri IPPO]
Zdravo! Sedaj mi mora samo se nekdo povedati, katera poglavja smo delali pri IPPO. :-) Mitar Original Message From: Matjaž Jogan matjaz.jo...@fri.uni-lj.si Subject: Re: Izpit pri IPPO To: Mitar mi...@tnode.com Pozdravljeni, Rad bi preveril informacijo, da bi naj v izpitu iz Izbranih poglavij programske opreme za studente po starem programu bila le snov Racunalniskega zaznavanja? Izpiti pa bodo podobni kot do sedaj? Tako je, vse naloge bodo iz računalniškega vida in bodo obsegale poglavja, predelana pri predmetu IPPO. Literatura ostaja ista, torej: Computer Vision: A Modern Approach od D. A. Forsyth in J. Ponce ali Introductory Techniques for 3-D Computer Vision od Emanuele Trucco, Alessandro Verri LP, Matjaž - Matjaž Jogan Visual Cognitive Systems Lab University of Ljubljana vicos.fri.uni-lj.si/matjazj
Re: [Friclist] [Fwd: Re: Izpit pri IPPO]
Zdravo! Vidiš Mitar, da se nismo nič zlagali glede izpitov pri IPPO. :) Vidim. :-) Poglavja pa so sledeča: 2. Digital Snapshots 3. Dealing with Noise 4. Image Features 5. More Image Features (avtor pa ima pa domišljijo glede imen poglavij) 6. Camera Calibration( Pri tem poglavju pridejo v poštev le osnove umirjanja) 7.Stereopsis 9.Shape from Single-image Cues 10. Recognition Približno 200 strani torej In katera knjiga od teh dveh je priporocena s strani studentov za ucenje? Mitar
Re: [Friclist] IPPO izpitni rok
Zdravo! Jap, danes sem šel na predavanja in ga vprašal malo glede izpita... robotike ni več! Mi bomo pisali isti izpit kot teli ta novi (RZ), tako da bo kriza. Ampak na srečo bo vsaj ta stara snov (oz. vsaj podobno, na isti način...). Rekel je da motion ne pride v poštev, pa potem neke teksture, pa tam pri kalibraciji samo osnovne formule, pa mislim da še 1 ali 2 stvari, ki ne prideta v poštev, ampak sem pozabil. In iz cesa se clovek sploh uci to? Mitar
Re: [Friclist] IPPO izpitni rok
Zdravo! Mene zanima ce seminarske se veljajo. Na strani so ze vaje za novo generacijo zato me zanima ce in kako dolgo veljajo vaje. Jaz mislim, da kar veljajo. Nic niso pravili, da vec ne bi. Aja, pa na e-Studentu je razpisan rok za IPPO. 26. 1. Hkrati kot ze prej omenjeno Racunalnisko zaznavanje. Mitar
Re: [Friclist] IPPO izpitni rok
Zdravo! Robotike ni več na izpitu. Kako ne? Mislim ... to je preverjena informacija? Mitar
[Friclist] RAM
Zdravo! Ima kdo, proda kdo, pozna kdo koga, ki bi prodal: dve ploscici po 512 MB SODIMM 266 MHz PC2100 DDR RAMa Mitar
rdr pass rule
Hi! I have a system where my daemon is running on a public IP on a high port (so that it does not need root privileges, and it is binded to a public IP as it runs in a jail) and I would like to translate it to a lower port. I would like that just this lower port is publicly accessible. This can be done with: rdr pass on $int_untrust proto tcp from any to $addr_svc port $svc_ext - $addr_svc port $svc_int This makes only $svc_ext port accessible as $svc_int port is closed (not opened) for traffic. But I would like to assign this traffic to a queue and thus I cannot use pass option. I wanted to create a rdr rule without pass option and a separate pass rule later on. But the problem is that, as far as I understand, pass rules are applied after rdr, so I can set them only on an internal port (to which I am translating public port). But then the question is how can I open this internal port so that it is not opened to a public, only to a traffic coming through a rdr rule? Is there a general way how one can transcribe rdr pass option to a pass rule which would behave in the same way as rdr pass? Mitar ___ freebsd-pf@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-pf To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-pf-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [Friclist] Absolventski staz
Zdravo! Kolikor sem jst slišala moraš opraviti ravno pravo število izpitov (glede na kreditne točke) in si tudi pustiti ravno prav izpitov. Če ti jih ne ostane dovolj, mislim da ti ne podaljšajo. Tako sem slišala od prejšnjih generacij. To so spremenili. Svoj cas je bilo res tako, da si moral imeti se vec kot nekaj izpitov do konca, da so ti podaljsali. Sedaj moras le opraviti dovolj izpitov (ali pa prijaviti diplomo), preden zaprosis. Mitar
Re: [Friclist] Absolventski staz
Zdravo! Nono mal je treba le pazit. Ce si kdo namerava pustit 1 sam izpit, al pa 2... naj pozabi na podaljsanje. Ker ce pustis premalo stevilo izpitov, izpade kot da si namerno pustil, da bos lahko vlekel stastus studenta in tega ne zelijo. Ehm, kje pa to pise? Mislim, saj si recimo pustis 1 ali 2 izpita + *diplomo*. Diplomo je tudi potrebno enkrat narediti. In traja nekaj casa. Ce ti podaljsajo takrat, ko naredis vse izpite in prijavis diplomo, ne razumem, zakaj ti ne bi podaljsali z enim ali dvema izpitoma, saj je jasno, da bos moral prijaviti tudi diplomo. Mitar
[Friclist] Absolventski staz
Zdravo! Do kdaj nam traja? Do katerega datuma moramo oddati prosnjo za podaljsanje? Mitar
Open with O_APPEND fails
Hi! I discovered that open syscall with only O_APPEND fails with permission denied if an user does not have rights to write to a file (what is normal) even if it is root (what is a surprise). For example, if I have a file owned by www:www and with 644 permissions root cannot do open(testfile, O_APPEND) call. If I change ownership of I change permission to for example 666, call succeedes. This works on Linux (Debian). So this is a feature? Or a bug? (I discovered that because htpasswd failed to add new username/password pair (ran as root) to a file owner by www.) Checked on FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE. Mitar ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Open with O_APPEND fails
Hi! On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 1:17 AM, Mel fbsd.questi...@rachie.is-a-geek.net wrote: 15 fd = open(fname, O_WRONLY|O_APPEND); Try only with O_APPEND, without O_WRONLY. I have just found a bug report about that: https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=45923 But the question remains: why this fails? It works on Linux, as it is seen from bug report it works also on FreeBSD 6.x, why it does not work anymore on FreeBSD 7.x? Is it correct that it does not work? I have not found anywhere written that O_WRONLY should be specified with O_APPEND. Mitar ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Open with O_APPEND fails
Hi! On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 4:58 AM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: Just a thought, but have you figured out what the value of that OR is? then check the 6.x and 7.x src. You mean O_RDONLY? Is not that 0? So that O_RDONLY | O_APPEND is the same as O_APPEND? (That is why I am writing about O_APPEND flag and not O_RDONLY | O_APPEND as that bug report. Mitar ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Open with O_APPEND fails
Hi! On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 5:10 AM, Mel fbsd.questi...@rachie.is-a-geek.net wrote: open(2) will succeed but write(2) will fail with EBADF as documented (and I verified this behavior). Still no EACCES as you and the bugreporter are seeing. Where is documented that write would fail if file is opened only with O_APPEND? Just O_APPEND should also open file for writing as appending is also writing. It cannot be used without write semantics so file has to be open also for writing. Mitar ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Failed to hand off onionskin
Hi!
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Scott Bennett benn...@cs.niu.edu wrote:
Increasing the queue limit to a high enough value means that none will be
lost, even if it takes a bit longer for your CPUs to get caught up.
This is what I was thinking with smoothing out. But delay is longer
then (for some).
Note that you do not have to shut down your relay in order to make this
change.
Just edit torrc, resave it, and send tor a SIGHUP.
I know that. I was playing with this when I was trying to dynamically
deny exit for Bittorrent connections. The problem was only that Tor
does not support such complex (and big) exit configurations.
It isn't routing of onionskins. It is decrypting of onionskins.
It has to decrypt onionskin to get destination of the next hop (and of
course payload to send there). So if it takes long to decrypt it, then
it also takes long to route it forward.
(Or is route static and only payload is decrypted in layers? I do not
know so much of Tor internals.)
[pet-peeve rant on]
How about if people stop misusing the term bandwidth for data
transmission rates and capacities, which have nothing at all to do with
the {wavelength,wavenumber,frequency,period} bandwidths? Slang popularity
is not justification for misuse of technical terminology.
[pet-peeve rant off]
It has to do with a physical layer of a transmission. More bandwidth
used as a carrier signal more data it can carry.
But mostly: I am just using terminology from Tor man pages.
As for having one core running at 85% - 100% CPU-bound, a good rule
of thumb is that a processor on a production system that averages higher
than 70% CPU-bound is due for an upgrade.
With other cores idling? I would rather try to improve parallelism in
used programs.
But of course. Someone can always donate the newest multi-core CPU to
me and I will gladly install it into a system. :-)
Mitar
Re: Failed to hand off onionskin
Hi! On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Scott Bennett benn...@cs.niu.edu wrote: I am running FreeBSD ~6.3 (i386), but I see the thread counts stated earlier when running it as a relay. In client-only mode, I think there's only one or two threads. I am not running client mode, only relay (if I understand my configuration correctly)? I also do not have control port enabled. Mitar
Re: Performance optimizations for high-bandwidth Tor exit
Hi! On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 4:13 AM, 6cnf6c...@sneakemail.com wrote: I now want to play around with hidden services, and noticed that Apache takes a very long time to reply, even to local requests. Do you use this same Apache as a proxy to directory server? Mitar
Re: Failed to hand off onionskin
Hi! On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Scott Bennett benn...@cs.niu.edu wrote: That is odd. In my experience, tor has 4 + NumCPUs threads, except right after a SIGHUP or during initialization. I normally only see two threads do any work, and most of it is done by one of those two. Although I run it on a P4 Prescott, it is HT-enabled, so I set NumCPUs 2. Most likely, the onionskin-decoding threads are used so infrequently that I only see one in use at a time anyway. I am using FreeBSD. And if I set NumCPUs to 1, then I have 2 threads reported by top, if I set NumCPUs to 3, then I have 3 threads reported by top. Are you seeing any significant paging activity on that system? If not, then I doubt that is the problem. No. And I was not thinking that paging/swaping is a problem. But it is 5 MB/s of data to be processed what could be a problem if it is has to be copied a lot around in the memory (RAM). Even small amounts of paging activity are not likely a problem. Is that machine dedicated to tor? Or is it also running other jobs with large (relative to the real memory of the machine) memory requirements? It is not dedicated to Tor but at the moment I am testing it only with Tor. So currently it does not have much other load, not CPU nor memory. But later on (when I will tweak it correctly) it will have also some other things running. Mitar
Failed to hand off onionskin
Hi! From time to time I am getting this warning: Failed to hand off onionskin. Closing. Your computer is too slow to handle this many circuit creation requests! Please consider using the MaxAdvertisedBandwidth config option or choosing a more restricted exit policy. I have been monitoring the system and while it is true that sometimes it tops one processor, it occupies most of the time just 50 % of one processor. I have also configured Tor daemon to use two threads so even if it tops one it could still switch to another. But it rarely passes 100 % (that is, it rarely really uses two processors). The system as a whole has also not topped its CPU power. And while load does not seem to be so high I get at the same time this errors. Is there some other system bound which would be causing this and not CPU? Are there some other performance tweaks I could try? I am using Tor 0.2.0.31 (r16744) on FreeBSD amd64. Should I maybe upgrade to devel version? Mitar
Re: Failed to hand off onionskin
Hi! On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:44 AM, Roger Dingledine a...@mit.edu wrote: Well, step one is to set NumCPUs 2 but I think you already did that. Yes. That was something I tried first. But it did not change those warnings much (I have not really measured or counted them but I believe that there is the same amount of them in a day with one or two processors enabled). The only time I really see increase in CPU % (in top output on FreeBSD) is when I send HUP signal - then it gets much over 100 % for a few seconds. Assuming you're referring to the relay Arlequin, this is a very fast relay, so you will be running up against various constraints that not many people hit. Yes. But the system really does not seem busy. How much ram is Tor using? If it's a lot, you might consider the -alpha versions, as on some platforms they use much less ram. top reports 369M of total memory footprint. It has 3 threads. There are around 14000 TCP connections established (I can count this as the system has a dedicated IP address for Tor traffic). Could it be a memory use bound? So that memory access cannot keep with the use? And this is why the CPU is not maxed? Mitar
Re: Bittorrent packets
Hi! On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Marco Bonetti marco.bone...@slackware.it wrote: On Mon, December 15, 2008 14:35, Mitar wrote: But why port 80? Because that is what the original user has been using and he/she sends this port number to the tracker? yes. On why the user chooses that specific port... meh... just let your imagination go wild: there will be plenty of reasons, from the poor man traffic disguise to human stupidity. I've seen computer science engineers configuring a firewall on their own laptops and opening port 80 in input while saying because I should be able to surf the web :D True. So probably I am getting even more packets to other ports. I am just not seeing them as they are dropped. Mitar
Re: Bittorrent packets
Hi! On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Marco Bonetti marco.bone...@slackware.it wrote: The torified client will send out the exit node ip, so the exit will receive unsuccessful connection attempts, I think this is the only annoying part of the process and this is why the azureus wiki is suggesting to overriding the sent ip address with your own real one. OK, so the problem is that the tracker has recorded IP of an exit node as a Bittorrent peer and it is giving that to other Bittorrent peer which then want to connect to it and download from it? But why port 80? Because that is what the original user has been using and he/she sends this port number to the tracker? So there is nothing wrong if I block with a firewall all this connections to my server from those IPs who are trying to connect to me? I do not need to add them to ExitRules even if I am blocking them as they are not really using Tor network nor they are connected trough Tor network? I was wondering that this could be also used as a measure against using Tor network for Bittorrent data (not communication with a tracker). I could add all those IPs to ExitRules of a node, rejecting them as a possible destination. In this way Bittorrent data will not be allowed out of the node. Those clients who will want to communicate with a node are also those with which a Tor network user which wants to use it for Bittorrent data will want to communicate. I tried this and it works. Adding dynamically those IPs to ExitRules and HUPing the Tor daemon. But the problem is that after some time and number of IPs Tor daemon reached its limit of server descriptor size (and ExitRules). So currently such approach is not possible as Tor server descriptor was not designed for so many ExitRules, it seems. Any workaround? Without adding those IP to ExitRules it is not really nice that I would be blocking them just with a firewall but this could be maybe also seen as a feature: making Tor network unstable for Bittorrent users (for data transmissions). Mitar
SSH and Telnet ports
Hi! I am wondering why should I allow SSH and Telnet ports to be open on a relay? Is there really a usage case where a Tor user would need them (because connecting with SSH to a server does somehow go against anonymity)? Because otherwise it could be used for dictionary attacks against SSH hosts. Mitar
Re: SSH and Telnet ports
Hi! On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Roger Dingledine a...@mit.edu wrote: That said, feel free to take out ports 21 and 22 from your exit policy if they make you uncomfortable. Is there maybe a middle way? For example to limit number of connections exiting to the same host? So I could limit to one connection to 22 port per minute for every host, for example. Of course this would be problematic for a busy SSH server with many users connecting through Tor network, but I think this is probably not very often. A feature request? Mitar
Re: SSH and Telnet ports
Hi! On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 8:48 PM, Dominik Schaefer schaed...@gmx.de wrote: Concerning the aspect of using Tor to target others: I would be very surprised if anyone actually tries to use Tor for this, ordinary botnets of owned machines are completely sufficient. Invalid SSH login attempts are often reported and some of systems in botnets are taken down because of this. By hiding behind Tor network they can make those reports useless thus systems in botnet will be longer available to them. Mitar
Bittorrent packets
Hi! I noticed that on a machine where I am running a Tor node I am getting a lot of invalid HTTP requests to my 80 port. In Apache logs I saw that they are Bittorrent packets and not HTTP requests. So I was wondering if anybody else has been noticing this? Why exactly is this happening? Mitar
Re: Disable logging of invalid requests
Hi! On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Morgan Gangwere 0.fracta...@gmail.com wrote: Well, more accurately, this is kinda backwards. According to the documentation, the syntax for SetEnvIf is SetEnvIf (statement) (statement) (varname) In my documentation: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_setenvif.html it is written: SetEnvIf attribute regex [!]env-variable[=value] [[!]env-variable[=value]] ... You're acctually //setting// a variable here to a particular //value//. if this is possible please let me know, as i could use this, as I'm having 0 luck getting CustomLog to work. But CustomLog just checks whether environment variable exists or not. So the value does not matter in this case. And about my problem. I have opted at the end for: CustomLog /dev/null common And now I do not have invalid requests logged. I do not like that but I do not like having them logged even more. I really do not understand why this short-circuiting is necessary. We have an error log for such important things. CustomLog should be completely customizable. Even this short-circuiting. It is funny in some way that I do not want those requests to be logged for security reasons (because they could leak some data to logs) but reason Apache logs them is just because of security. Only some other security. Can I make this a feature request? Obviously (t)here are users which do not mind not logging such requests. I agree that the default behavior should be logging them. But I also believe this should be customizable. Not all usage cases have the same definition of security. I could pipe to another program which would remove them before writing to a log file, though. Mitar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@httpd.apache.org
Re: Disable logging of invalid requests
Hi! On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Joshua Slive jos...@slive.ca wrote: For example, you want to log based on Request_URI. But to figure out what the Request_URI is, apache needs to parse the Request Line. One of the reasons for short-circuiting is an over-long request line, which would be dangerous to parse. True. But in my case it is like this: - if the request is valid and it is for some specific set of URLs, log it - otherwise do not log it (also if it is invalid) So I would like to see a switch/option which would say do not log invalid requests. If the request is valid, then I will check Request_URI and based on that I will log it. I understand that I cannot check Request_URI for invalid requests. But why I cannot disable logging of invalid requests? I would like to be able to disable that in CustomLog and maybe just get a warning in error log, something like IP this and this sent an invalid request. And what is logged to an error log is already adjusted with LogLevel. I would put this warning into info or notice level. Mitar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@httpd.apache.org
[Bug-wget] Problems with wget using -r and -O options
Hi! (Please CC me in replies as I am not subscribed to a mailing list.) I am using wget 1.11.4 and in its man page it is written that using -r with -O is supported but that I will get a warning. I tried using it but it does not really work, I do get a warning though. I am using -O to output it to stdout and it seems that this is the problem. wget tries to reread the output to get links to follow, but rereading of stdout is not possible and so it fails with only the first page downloaded (and sent to stdout). I have tried this both on Mac OS X (where it blocks after the first page waiting for stdin) and FreeBSD (where it downloads only the first page). Mitar
Disable logging of invalid requests
Hi! Is there a way to disable logging of invalid requests to an HTTP server (which result in a 501 response code)? I would like to log only specific URLs and I am using SetEnvIf with CustomLog to do that, like: SetEnvIf Request_URI ^/$ log_request=yes SetEnvIf Request_URI ^/index.html$ log_request=yes CustomLog /var/log/httpd-access.log common env=log_request CustomLog /dev/null common env=!log_request But the problem is that those invalid requests are still logged to httpd-access.log file. Mitar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@httpd.apache.org
Re: [fri-inf-2006] Re: [Friclist] FRI:UNI:Umetnainteligenca/Izredni rok december/januar 2008/09
Zdravo! Kar se tiče UISP, bom tudi to predstavil Bratkotu, da vas je 6 napisanih in lahko greste na isti datum kot informatiki, če se bo strinjal. Super, hvala. Mitar
Re: [fri-inf-2006] Re: [Friclist] FRI:UNI:Umetnainteligenca/Izredni rok december/januar 2008/09
Zdravo! Za PO (UISP) se probaj raje zmeniti za začetek marca, če je možno (absolventski staž nam poteče 30. marca), namreč petim od šestih je vseeno kdaj, en pa ne more decembra (oz. lahko sam se boji da je premal cajta za naučit se do 22.12., ane Blaž? ;) Hm, to je tudi dober predlog. Zacetek marca bi bil res super. :-) Mitar
Re: [fri-inf-2006] Re: [Friclist] FRI:UNI:Umetnainteligenca/Izredni rok december/januar 2008/09
Zdravo! Najboljš bi blo, da bi Bratko pristal na 2 izredna roka, pa bi blo za vse ok ... Da ne bo pomote, tisto glede marca je bilo sedaj pisano za UISP. Torej Bratku se lahko pove, da se je tudi 6 kandidatov javilo za rok za UISP za marec. Mitar
Re: [fri-inf-2006] Re: [Friclist] FRI:UNI:Umetna inteligenca /Izredni rok december/januar 2008/09
Zdravo! Izredni rok je lahko tako za smer informatika UI kot za smer programska oprema (UI1) po starem programu. Cakaj. Meni tu ni najbolj jasno. PO po starem programu smo imeli predmet UISP, ki je bil celoletni predmet. Sedaj, po novem, so to razbili v UI1 in UI2. Torej bi naj delali dva izpita. (Te spremembe ne bom tu komentiral.) To, kar bi sedaj naj bil ta izredni rok, bi naj bil izredni rok za UI za informatike in UI1 za programsko opremo. Torej ne bo izredni rok za celoleten UISP ali recimo rok, kjer bi lahko delali tako UI1 kot UI2 (da opravimo ta predmet enkrat za vselej). Ker na E-studiju se nas je kar nekaj prijavilo za UISP v celoti. No, ceprav tudi UI1 ni od muh, ce je izredni rok. Samo potem to nima smisla, ce je januarja, saj takrat bo itak redni rok za UI1. Ali pac? Mitar
Re: [fri-inf-2006] Re: [Friclist] FRI:UNI:Umetna inteligenca /Izredni rok december/januar 2008/09
Zdravo! @Mitar: Js sm razmišljal, da bi se z Bratkom zmenili, da bi odprl prijavnice za UI (vse smeri) kar na rednem roku za UI1, ki je v zim. semestru. Snov je tako ali tako zelo podobna, tako da bi se izpiti razlikovali verjetno v eni, največ dveh nalogah. Verjetno bi bilo to tudi za Bratka lažje ... Za nas, UISP, je snov za en semester sirsa. Ampak verjetno bi jim vseeno bilo to veliko lazje organizirati kot kaj res locenega. Ce bodo zeleli. Mitar
Re: [Friclist] FRI:UNI:Umetna inteligenca /Izredni rok december/januar 2008/09
Zdravo! Ker se je predmet Umetna inteligenca za smer informatika prestavil iz prvega v drugi semester, kar je zafrknilo kar nekaj študentov, ki so računali na januarski redni rok, bi bilo dobro organizirati izredni rok. Da pa bo to mogoče, se mora nabrati vsaj 10 resnih kandidatov, drugače prof. Bratko verjetno ne bo voljan razpisati izrednega roka. Kdor še nima UI in bi rad opravljal izpit pred zimskim izpitnim obdobjem, naj se prosim napiše na seznam, ki se nahaja na: http://www.e-student.si/FRI:UNI:Umetna_inteligenca_/Izredni_rok_december/januar_2008/09 da se lahko grem pogajati s prof. Bratkom za izredni rok. Mogoce bi se bilo dobro povezati tudi s programsko opremo po starem programu, ki imamo celoletni predmet UISP, ki moramo sicer cakati do junija, da bi lahko sli na sicer dva izpita (ker je po novem UI1 in UI2, ki se stejejo kot UISP). Mitar
[Friclist] [Fwd: DGM - prosta opravila na področju računal ništva in informatike]
Zdravo! Ce se mogoce kdo zadrzuje v Mariboru oziroma ce pozna koga od tam ... Mitar Original Message From: druga gimnazija [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DGM - prosta opravila na področju računalništva in informatike Pozdravljeni! Ker se je na II. gimnaziji Maribor zelo povečal obseg del in nalog na področju računalništva in informatike, potrebujemo sodelavca za: - pomoč dijakom in profesorjem pri upravljanju informacijske tehnologije, - pomoč pri vzdrževanju strojne in programske opreme, - dežurstvo v novi računalniški učilnici (razlogi: delo izven pouka, projektno delo ...), - pomoč pri delovanju računalniškega krožka (vzdrževanje opreme, razvoj - uvajanje novosti, multimedija ...). Delo se opravlja v dopoldanskem času, zato si lahko termine razdelita tudi dve osebi (ali morda celo tri). Prednost pri izbiri imajo kandidati, ki imajo več znanja in izkušenj na področjih, za katera iščemo pomoč. Mirko Pešec, prof. računalništva in informatike
Re: [Friclist] Obvestilo o preteku veljavnosti digitalnega potrdila
Zdrav Moj velja do 2.12.08. Tako da ko bos prestudiral postopek pridobivanja / obnavljanja, se priporocam za info :) To lahko uredis tudi kar preko spletne strani: http://e-uprava.gov.si/e-uprava/dogodkiPrebivalci.euprava?zdid=780sid=1023 Zal potrebujes Internet Explorer za to. Sem jim pisal, zakaj ne podpirajo Firefoxa pred casom: *Vaše vprašanje*: Ko želim ponovno pridobiti digitalno potrdilo, se mi izpiše: Vaš brskalnik ne ustreza tehničnim zahtevam za digitalno podpisovanje. Katerim tehničnim zahtevam moj brskalnik Firefox 3.0 ne ustreza? *Odgovor organa:* Spoštovani, zahtevana programska in strojna oprema za uporabo portala je objavljena na strani http://e-uprava.gov.si/storitve/infoOprema.esju, kjer je dejansko navedeno, da je brskalnik Internet Explorer (verzija 6.0 in višje) pogoj za uporabo polne funkcionalnosti portala, predvsem za elektronsko podpisovanje spletnih vlog. Portal je v uporabi že od junija 2006 in v pripravi imamo že oblikovne in tehnološke izboljšave, med katerimi bo tudi zamenjava kompomente za elektronsko podpisovanje, kar bo omogočilo tudi polno podporo brskalniku Mozilla Firefox. Obseg uporabe tega brskalnika se je namreč v preteklih letih zelo povečal - danes 68% naših uporabnikov dostopa z Internet Explorerjem, 30% z brskalnikom Mozilla Firefox, 1% z Opero, 0.7% s Safarijem. Zahvaljujemo se vam za vaše pripombe in predloge, saj prav prek stika z našimi uporabniki lahko zagotavljamo nadaljnji razvoj, ki bo skladen z dejanskimi potrebami. Pri tem moramo seveda upoštevati tudi razpoložljivi obseg finančnih sredstev, ki jih lahko namenimo za te aktivnosti - vendar nam prav odzivi, kakršen je vaš, pomagajo, da ustrezno postavljamo prioritete nadaljnjega razvoja. V upanju, da boste še naprej uporabnik in sooblikovalec sodobnih storitev e-uprave, vas lepo pozdravljamo. Ekipa e-uprave Verjetno bi itak se vec ljudi dostopalo do njihovih spletnih strani s Firefoxom, ce bi ga podpirali. Kakorkoli, za nas (ne IE uporabnike) je do takrat mozno poslati PDF ali DOC datoteko z zahtevo preko e-maila, ki ga podpises (S/MIME) s starim certifikatom. http://www.sigen-ca.si/elektronska_oddaja.php Mitar
Re: [Friclist] Zavarovanje statusa
Zdravo! Za vzporedni vpis je potrebno soglasje FRIja. Rok pa je bil 15 september. Takrat je zasedala komisija za studijske zadeve, ki podeljuje ta soglasja. Hm, kje pa kaj pise o tem roku? Mitar
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Zdravo! Danes bi naj bil izpit iz TZ, ampak jaz nikjer ne najdem kje in kdaj. A kdo ve? Mitar
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