RE: Null hypothesis

2004-04-11 Thread Vaughn Sheline



-Original Message-From: Richard 
H. Gravelly
"Say O people, if ye deny these verses, by what 
proof have ye believed in God? Produce it, O Assemblage of false 
ones"

Would a scientist say that Baha'u'llah is placing 
the burden of proving the null hypothesis on the denier of His claim that His 
Verses are from God; and thereforehasmade a statement "contrary to a recognized 
principle of argumentation that says thatthe one who asserts must prove" 
that it is true?

If this is the case, then has this "rule of argumentation"been 
changed with the Advent of the Revelation of Baha'u'llah?

Richard.



Dear 
Richard,

As I read it, 
Baha'u'llah is notchallenging someone to prove that His verses are not 
from God,but instead is asking deniers by what proofhave 
theybelieved God.

I think the 
implication is that the peerlessness of the divine 
versesconstitutethe primary proofin every new Revelation, and 
that anyone who had recognized this quality in the holy books of the past would 
be able to recognize this quality in the divine verses revealed in this 
Day--because the demonstration of the creative and reformative powerof the 
divine verses was more evident in this Day than ever in the 
past.

--- 
Vaughn
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Fw: Null hypothesis

2004-04-11 Thread Sandra Chamberlain



Dear Richard,Today reading your post I 
concluded that I have a very simplemind, indeed! What you were 
suggesting from the followingverse has never occurred to me in over 30 
years..."Say O people, if ye deny these verses, by what proof have 
yebelieved in God? Produce it, O Assemblage of false ones"I've 
always read this verse as a challenge to the deniers tolook within 
themselves and pose the question "Why do I believein God?"In the 
early 70's I attended a 9 day Institute where weimmersed ourselves in The 
Seven Valleys and The Four Valleys.From that time, I've sensed a parallel 
between the above versefrom the Tablet of Ahmad; and this one, quoting 
Rumi,in TheSeven Valleys p.20:"Yea, to the beetle a sweet 
fragrance seemeth foul,and to the man sick of a rheum a pleasant perfume is 
asnaught.Wherefore, it hath been said for the guidance of the 
ignorant:Cleanse thou the rheum from out thine headAnd breathe the 
breath of God instead."The *proof* Bahá'u'lláh is asking for, I think, 
in my limitedcapacity and humble opinion, is the question: "Do you 
imagineyourself a true believer?... and if so, prove it!" 
The"burden of proof" lies within the individual to accept orreject the 
*truth* of the Revelation...Lovingly, 
Sandra
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