RE: Null hypothesis
-Original Message-From: Richard H. Gravelly "Say O people, if ye deny these verses, by what proof have ye believed in God? Produce it, O Assemblage of false ones" Would a scientist say that Baha'u'llah is placing the burden of proving the null hypothesis on the denier of His claim that His Verses are from God; and thereforehasmade a statement "contrary to a recognized principle of argumentation that says thatthe one who asserts must prove" that it is true? If this is the case, then has this "rule of argumentation"been changed with the Advent of the Revelation of Baha'u'llah? Richard. Dear Richard, As I read it, Baha'u'llah is notchallenging someone to prove that His verses are not from God,but instead is asking deniers by what proofhave theybelieved God. I think the implication is that the peerlessness of the divine versesconstitutethe primary proofin every new Revelation, and that anyone who had recognized this quality in the holy books of the past would be able to recognize this quality in the divine verses revealed in this Day--because the demonstration of the creative and reformative powerof the divine verses was more evident in this Day than ever in the past. --- Vaughn __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fw: Null hypothesis
Dear Richard,Today reading your post I concluded that I have a very simplemind, indeed! What you were suggesting from the followingverse has never occurred to me in over 30 years..."Say O people, if ye deny these verses, by what proof have yebelieved in God? Produce it, O Assemblage of false ones"I've always read this verse as a challenge to the deniers tolook within themselves and pose the question "Why do I believein God?"In the early 70's I attended a 9 day Institute where weimmersed ourselves in The Seven Valleys and The Four Valleys.From that time, I've sensed a parallel between the above versefrom the Tablet of Ahmad; and this one, quoting Rumi,in TheSeven Valleys p.20:"Yea, to the beetle a sweet fragrance seemeth foul,and to the man sick of a rheum a pleasant perfume is asnaught.Wherefore, it hath been said for the guidance of the ignorant:Cleanse thou the rheum from out thine headAnd breathe the breath of God instead."The *proof* Bahá'u'lláh is asking for, I think, in my limitedcapacity and humble opinion, is the question: "Do you imagineyourself a true believer?... and if so, prove it!" The"burden of proof" lies within the individual to accept orreject the *truth* of the Revelation...Lovingly, Sandra __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]