Re: Modified Abstract
Okay. Well, again, if I were talking about a particular human reality, I would call it a particular. If I were talking about the reality of man (a structurization, or dynamic power of naming, for humans collectively), I would call it a universal. Good. Thank you. I needed that specific clarification. I get the impression however, that as the Manifestations of God are taken as one, as well as individually and as collectively; then man can be taken the same way without changing the use of the term structuralization. Does that mean that the undifferentiated substance (atom) is a particular? IMO, an atom or an element is a particular in relation to a compound. However, the substance of the mineral kingdom is a particular in relation to the mineral spirit. Good. That is clearly consistent. If so, as its existence depends upon relationships between various energy levels that the particularness of the atom is a structurization as well? As I am using the term, a structurization is a name for a universal. Reality is constructed through the dynamic process of naming. The construction of your system then would be a dynamic process of naming? Mark A. Foster * http://markfoster.net Sacred cows make the best hamburger -- Mark Twain and Abbie Hoffman __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Modified Abstract
Hi Mark, To Richard you wrote: Reality is constructed through the dynamic process of naming. By Reality do you iintend percieved reality ? And, if so, can it be assumed that the process of naming is based on recognizable attributes of a particular or universal ? (and because Reality as percieved by most humans is relative ... Well, you know...) Your modified abstract states: The problems of realism, nominalism, particularism, and conceptualism are transcended by defining universals as **names** for structurizations, and structurizations within structurizations, considered as belonging to the same category (such as society). Particulars, not structurizations or universals, are realities. lovingly, Sandra __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Modified Abstract
Hi, Sandra, At 01:47 PM 11/3/2004, you wrote: By Reality do you iintend percieved reality ? And, if so, can it be assumed that the process of naming is based on recognizable attributes of a particular or universal ? By reality, I am referring to divinely and socially constructed reality, not objective reality, which refers to particulars. Your modified abstract states: The problems of realism, nominalism, particularism, and conceptualism are transcended by defining universals as **names** for structurizations, In the most recent version of it, I have removed that reference to realism, nominalism, particularism, and conceptualism and replaced it with a reference to Ian Hacking's dynamic nominalism. Mark A. Foster * http://markfoster.net Sacred cows make the best hamburger -- Mark Twain and Abbie Hoffman __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Modified Abstract
Yes, any system is, in my view, constructed through naming. In this case, naming refers to the *attribution* of characteristics. Hi Mark, Could you give an example of naming by attribution in each - Particulars; Universals; and Structurizations... And, include: who/what is measuring/evaluating the characteristics of each to warrant the attribution? You no doubt recognize I don't have the ability to challenge you on this... but, I fear if I were in your position I'd be painting myself into the proverbial corner. Therefore, I'm intrigued and curious to see where your theory leads... Sandra __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Modified Abstract
Hi, Sandra, At 10:06 PM 11/3/2004, you wrote: Could you give an example of naming by attribution in each - Particulars; Universals; and Structurizations... As I am using these terms, naming particulars by attribution would be identical to universals or structurization. For instance, gender is a result of attributing characteristics to people defined (rightly or wrongly) as being one sex or the other. (I say rightly or wrongly since there is no general agreement among sexologists as to the number of sexes. Some say one. Others, two. Still others, five.) This process of attribution, naming, or structurization, in connection with other acts of structurization, socially constructs our lifeworlds. And, include: who/what is measuring/evaluating the characteristics of each to warrant the attribution? Please rephrase the question. You no doubt recognize I don't have the ability to challenge you on this... but, I fear if I were in your position I'd be painting myself into the proverbial corner. Not really. I am just playing with ideas. Therefore, I'm intrigued and curious to see where your theory leads... I really can't entirely claim it. Most of what I am talking about comes from Ian Hacking's dynamic nominalism. Mark A. Foster * http://markfoster.net Sacred cows make the best hamburger -- Mark Twain and Abbie Hoffman __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
