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Mark: As I am using these terms, naming particulars by attribution would be identical to universals or structurization. For instance, gender is a result of attributing characteristics to people defined (rightly or wrongly) as being one sex or the other. (I say rightly or wrongly since there is no general agreement among sexologists as to the number of sexes. Some say one. Others, two. Still others, five.) This process of attribution, naming, or structurization, in connection with other acts of structurization, socially constructs our lifeworlds. Okay! It is fair to say that the process isn't without error... (haven't read Hacking...obviously) So, how do we reconcile that with Divine Will - which is infallible? (In terms of Naming...) lovingly, Sandra __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sandra, At 02:23 AM 11/4/2004, you wrote: Okay! It is fair to say that the process isn't without error... (haven't read Hacking ... obviously) I am not sure how error would fit in. As Aleister Crowley said, Do as thou wilt is the whole of the law. Through expressing our wills, we collectively (in interaction with others) structurize our lifeworlds. So, how do we reconcile that with Divine Will - which is infallible? (In terms of Naming...) To my understanding, that statement would be somewhat tautological (circular). IMO, infallibility and the divine Will are pretty much identical. Infallibility is the *exercise* of the divine Will. Naming is the process of whereby God structurizes His creation. name: A word or words by which an entity is designated and distinguished from others. -- The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition The structurizational (naming) process of distinguishing categories of particulars from other categories of particulars results in structure. Mark A. Foster * http://markfoster.net Sacred cows make the best hamburger -- Mark Twain and Abbie Hoffman __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Mark, you said: I am not sure how error would fit in. As Aleister Crowley said, Do as thou wilt is the whole of the law. Through expressing our wills, we collectively (in interaction with others) structurize our lifeworlds. My intention is not to discuss the merits of his statement or the appropriateness of its use in this particular context; however I would like to know why you would use Aleister Crowley as an authority for anything at all? I am openly curious. Mark you also said: The structurizational (naming) process of distinguishing categories of particulars from other categories of particulars results in structure. Is there any significance, in relation to the above statement that the first task given to man which suggests control over his outer environment is to name certain items? Gen: 2:19. That is: is structuralization the fundamental act in the development of phenomenology and epistemology? __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yes, I think that God's directive to name created things was, in effect, an authorization to structurize creation. I wonder then, as the Baha'i Era opened with a Book known as Qayyum-i-Asma and that Asma is one of the Names of God, then that man has the implied authority to name anew creation which would include the inner world of himself, hence the explosion of philosophical re-examination of old ideas (Kant's analysis of the teleological argument for example) and the recognition of new understandings or insights and naming or otherwise identifying them. That is: is structuralization the fundamental act in the development of phenomenology and epistemology? IMO, the act of epoche (bracketing), or phenomenological reduction, in addition to intersubjectivity, are instances of structurization. A less than cursory reading of the literature regarding the above terms suggests that the tasks they present and the results expected, will produce, nay, require a meditation that can lead to knowledge of one's own self and perhaps even the freedom existentialists have insisted will be the result of such inner activity. __ You __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, Richard, At 06:53 PM 11/4/2004, you wrote: I wonder then, as the Baha'i Era opened with a Book known as Qayyum-i-Asma and that Asma is one of the Names of God, then that man has the implied authority to name anew creation which would include the inner world of himself, hence the explosion of philosophical re-examination of old ideas (Kant's analysis of the teleological argument for example) and the recognition of new understandings or insights and naming or otherwise identifying them. Well, the Word of God (kalimat-ullaah), IMO, refers to the manifestation of God (divine perfections) in the Prophet and to what the Prophet teaches. The perfections of Christ are called the Word because all the beings are in the condition of letters, and one letter has not a complete meaning, while the perfections of Christ have the power of the word because a complete meaning can be inferred from a word. As the Reality of Christ was the manifestation of the divine perfections, therefore, it was like the word. Why? because He is the sum of perfect meanings. This is why He is called the Word. -- `Abdu'l-Baha, Some Answered Questions, pp.206-207 Whatever They [the Prophets] say is the word of God, and whatever They perform is an upright action. -- `Abdu'l-Baha, Some Answered Questions, p.173 To my understanding, a Prophet's perfections ***are*** His **names** and attributes which are communicated to us through divine Revelation. In that way, the two definitions of word are connected. A less than cursory reading of the literature regarding the above terms suggests that the tasks they present and the results expected, will produce, nay, require a meditation that can lead to knowledge of one's own self and perhaps even the freedom existentialists have insisted will be the result of such inner activity. I think that, from an ethical perspective, the supremacy of will advocated by Crowley, Nietzche, Husserl, and others needs to be grounded in an understanding of the divine Will (the Covenant). Mark A. Foster * http://markfoster.net Sacred cows make the best hamburger -- Mark Twain and Abbie Hoffman __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
