re: Merchants of Babylon

2004-06-18 Thread Brent Poirier
This interpretation of corrupt religious leaders as merchants

That's a very interesting interpretation.  And to me, it does not in the slightest 
degrade the profession of merchant.

Similarly, in the Book of Revelation the new Law is foreshadowed as a woman (12:1); 
and corrupt religion as a corrupt woman (Rev. Ch. 17).

I wonder how the image of the corrupt merchants fits in with this verse concerning 
buying and selling, about which I have long wondered.  Your comment may well be a 
key:

And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a 
mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads; and that no man might buy or sell, 
save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.  
(Rev. 13:16-17)  Then in chapter 18 the corrupt woman, the whore of Babylon, falls, 
and the merchants who were made rich through her weep and mourn over her; for no man 
buyeth their merchandise any more, the merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious 
stones ... and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men. 

Brent
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Re: Merchants of Babylon

2004-06-15 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
Patti Goebel wrote: Speaking of Babylon, the symbolic city
of corrupted religion, John writes:   . . . thy merchants
were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all
nations deceived.  And in her was found the blood of prophets,
and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
18:23-24 



Dear Patti,


I'm inclined to agree with you that there is more to this
verse than is evident at first glance.  Their occupation was
not so important as the status awarded them.  Consequently
these  merchants were viewed as great men.  No doubt admired
and envied, perhaps, because they would be perceived as
knowledgable; well traveled and well informed.  I suspect they
would have been sought out and patronized as much for their
news as their merchandise.  They would be positioned to have
tremendous influence.



Pretty heady stuff!  .and we know where that can lead.



Thanks for sharing your thoughts!



Lovingly,   Sandra


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Re: Merchants of Babylon

2004-06-14 Thread Patti Goebel



 Well, don't forget Muhammad and the Bab were 
chants too. ;-} 

I wasn't forgetting (it came out in the Ocean 
search when I was tracking down the exact quotes I was thinking about). In 
this caseI'm referringonly to the allegorical "merchants" of 
corrupted religion--Babylon, not earthly ones or inhabitants ofthe 
allegorical Holy City--Jerusalem. It's pretty clear from the stories that 
the Bab was an honest merchant, (e.g. - paying someone the price he should have 
gotten when he was slow in selling something for them that had been at a higher 
price--if only more of our earthly merchants held to those standards ;-) 
).

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