Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] so why 2950 supports 64 vlans?
You're joking, right? On 10/27/09, Bayan Sardari bayan.sard...@yahoo.com wrote: hi all thanks for your good comments but if 2950 doesen't support more than one ip why does it support 64 vlans?it means we coulden't have more that one vlan on it?we coulden't link it to a router (2621 for example)and do intervlan routing? i am confused! bayan -- Jeremy L. Gaddis http://evilrouters.net/ ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] so why 2950 supports 64 vlans?
Hi Bayan, In 2950, the IP is only for mangement. Vlan is Vlan, not to confuse with Vlan interface which is used for mangement only in L2 Sw. You cannot do intervlan routing within 2950. You need trunk to L3 device/router to do it. You don't even need IP address to use 2950 Sw and Vlan. You can still manage via console port. From: Bayan Sardari bayan.sard...@yahoo.com To: ccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 15:06:56 Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] so why 2950 supports 64 vlans? hi all thanks for your good comments but if 2950 doesen't support more than one ip why does it support 64 vlans?it means we coulden't have more that one vlan on it?we coulden't link it to a router (2621 for example)and do intervlan routing? i am confused! bayan New Email names for you! Get the Email name you#39;ve always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. Hurry before someone else does! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/aa/___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] so why 2950 supports 64 vlans?
And for the limitation of 64 VLANs, remember that you can have multiple switches daisy-chained with trunks and that could mean that you have traversing a lot of VLANs. -- Regards, Rick Mur CCIE2 #21946 (RS / Service Provider) Sr. Support Engineer – IPexpert, Inc. URL: http://www.IPexpert.com On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Aung Phyo Lwin aungphyol...@yahoo.comwrote: Hi Bayan, In 2950, the IP is only for mangement. Vlan is Vlan, not to confuse with Vlan interface which is used for mangement only in L2 Sw. You cannot do intervlan routing within 2950. You need trunk to L3 device/router to do it. You don't even need IP address to use 2950 Sw and Vlan. You can still manage via console port. -- *From:* Bayan Sardari bayan.sard...@yahoo.com *To:* ccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2009 15:06:56 *Subject:* [OSL | CCIE_RS] so why 2950 supports 64 vlans? hi all thanks for your good comments but if 2950 doesen't support more than one ip why does it support 64 vlans?it means we coulden't have more that one vlan on it?we coulden't link it to a router (2621 for example)and do intervlan routing? i am confused! bayan -- New Email names for you! http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/aa/mail/domainchoice/mail/signature/*http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/aa/ Get the Email name you've always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. Hurry before someone else does! ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] so why 2950 supports 64 vlans?
AFAIR the 64 VLAN limitation applies only if you're not using MST. Kaj From: Rick Mur r...@ipexpert.com Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:18:59 -0700 To: Aung Phyo Lwin aungphyol...@yahoo.com Cc: ccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] so why 2950 supports 64 vlans? And for the limitation of 64 VLANs, remember that you can have multiple switches daisy-chained with trunks and that could mean that you have traversing a lot of VLANs. -- Regards, Rick Mur CCIE2 #21946 (RS / Service Provider) Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc. URL: http://www.IPexpert.com On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Aung Phyo Lwin aungphyol...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Bayan, In 2950, the IP is only for mangement. Vlan is Vlan, not to confuse with Vlan interface which is used for mangement only in L2 Sw. You cannot do intervlan routing within 2950. You need trunk to L3 device/router to do it. You don't even need IP address to use 2950 Sw and Vlan. You can still manage via console port. From: Bayan Sardari bayan.sard...@yahoo.com To: ccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 15:06:56 Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] so why 2950 supports 64 vlans? hi all thanks for your good comments but if 2950 doesen't support more than one ip why does it support 64 vlans?it means we coulden't have more that one vlan on it?we coulden't link it to a router (2621 for example)and do intervlan routing? i am confused! bayan New Email names for you! http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/aa/mail/domainchoice/mail/signature/*http://mail.prom o tions.yahoo.com/newdomains/aa/ Get the Email name you've always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. Hurry before someone else does! ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com http://www.ipexpert.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] CCIE_RS Digest, Vol 45, Issue 149
wrote: I'm wondering how I could purchase from ebay.com when they only ship in the U.S. and I'm in Asia. Does anyone know how ? ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com -- Regards, Iwan Hoogendoorn CCIE #13084 (RS / Security / SP) Sr. Support Engineer ? IPexpert, Inc. URL: http://www.IPexpert.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com _ Use Messenger in your Hotmail inbox Find out how here http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=823454 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://onlinestudylist.com/pipermail/ccie_rs/attachments/20091027/b48c1e3d/attachment-0001.htm -- Message: 4 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:41:29 -0700 From: Mark Holloway m...@markholloway.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] ebay router and switch purchase To: Antonio Dee antonio_...@hotmail.com Cc: CCIE_RS OnlineStudyList ccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com Message-ID: 930c542f-ee8e-429d-99a0-449da6d22...@markholloway.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Have you tried Cables and Kits? They sell used (and new) Cisco hardware for decent prices and ship international. I've always had excellent service from them. They sell on ebay as well as their own web site. On Oct 26, 2009, at 4:28 PM, Antonio Dee wrote: Thanks for sharing Carlos I think this is a good one to have. I guess i'll get one if they ship internationally cheers! antonio Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:23:09 -0700 From: cvalero0...@yahoo.com To: r...@ipexpert.com CC: ccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] ebay router and switch purchase I think that Ciscoland.net does ship overseas.. I live in the US, but when I bought something from them, I remember that I saw the International shipment option. --- On Mon, 10/26/09, Rick Mur r...@ipexpert.com wrote: From: Rick Mur r...@ipexpert.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] ebay router and switch purchase To: Carlos Valero cvalero0...@yahoo.com Cc: nd reyes reyes...@gmail.com, Iwan Hoogendoorn i...@ipexpert.com , ccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 9:04 AM If the seller doesn't offer you to ship to the country you live in, than it's impossible to buy. There some ways around this. There are services that you can ship your package too and they re-package it and send it to your home. Try googling for 'Address in the US' or something. You will get a P.O box or something in the US then, which someone empties and resends to you. I personally don't really like doing that, but it could help :-) -- Regards, Rick Mur CCIE2 #21946 (RS / Service Provider) Sr. Support Engineer ? IPexpert, Inc. URL: http://www.IPexpert.com On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Carlos Valero cvalero0...@yahoo.com wrote: Have you tried ciscoland.net ? --- On Mon, 10/26/09, Iwan Hoogendoorn i...@ipexpert.com wrote: From: Iwan Hoogendoorn i...@ipexpert.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] ebay router and switch purchase To: nd reyes reyes...@gmail.com Cc: ccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 4:56 AM Hi, Just create an ebay account. Make sure you have a creditcard or Paypal set up Bid in a switche and make sure you win the auction or do a buy it now Make sure the seller is willing to ship the item to your desired location. More infor can be found on google ;-) -- Regards, Iwan Hoogendoorn CCIE #13084 (RS / Security / SP) Sr. Support Engineer ? IPexpert, Inc. URL: http://www.IPexpert.com On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 9:12 AM, nd reyes reyes...@gmail.com wrote: I'm wondering how I could purchase from ebay.com when they only ship in the U.S. and I'm in Asia. Does anyone know how ? ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com -- Regards, Iwan Hoogendoorn CCIE #13084 (RS / Security / SP) Sr. Support Engineer ? IPexpert, Inc. URL: http://www.IPexpert.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Find out how here Use Messenger in your Hotmail inbox ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com -- next
Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] My lab v4.0 experience, for those of you dying to know
Guys, One quick question.I saw in ipexpert labs that we should not use show run during debugging/troubleshooting.Is it so ? In real lab does that matter whether we resolve the teacat or it too matters how we resolve it.For example: Does the script expect us to use so and so show command(may be we might have used debug command) ? -raj From: ccie_rs-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_rs-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Rick Mur Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:27 AM To: Steve Shaw Cc: jmangaw...@gmail.com; ccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] My lab v4.0 experience,for those of you dying to know Great feedback!! I hear that the lab is quite fair from most people. I guess it's just the new environment and way of working which causes too much stress or confusion. I think Cisco did a great job in making it a fair exam, which focuses way more on the core technologies and troubleshooting than just knowing every stupid little command :-) I'm convinced that you will pass the next time! Keep up this spirit! -- Regards, Rick Mur CCIE2 #21946 (RS / Service Provider) Sr. Support Engineer - IPexpert, Inc. URL: http://www.IPexpert.com http://www.IPexpert.com/ On 26 okt 2009, at 22:37, Steve Shaw wrote: Awesome feedback. Thanks! On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 5:09 PM, pra pa patelpr...@hotmail.com wrote: with all toppings!!! :-) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:06:24 -0500 From: jmangaw...@gmail.com To: nickst...@yahoo.com; ccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] My lab v4.0 experience, for those of you dying to know Haha, yep. In my case, a $1400 slice of pizza! On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 4:01 PM, nickst...@yahoo.com wrote: Wow. Good feedback I just read your entire post so I need to digest it. It sounds like you are very close and sound very upbeat on your temporary defeat. At least you know have a gameplan on how to attack. 1400 dollar sandwich strikes again! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: jmangawang jmangaw...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:39:42 To: CCIE OSLccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] My lab v4.0 experience, for those of you dying to know ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com http://www.ipexpert.com/ Windows 7: It helps you do more. Explore Windows 7. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727:: T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen3:102009 ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com http://www.ipexpert.com/ ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] My lab v4.0 experience, for those of you dying to know
Nice feedback jmangawang, thank you very much for sharing your exerience with us. wish you thrive on your next try. regards, Fábio On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Dande Rajasekhar (drajasek) draja...@cisco.com wrote: Guys, One quick question.I saw in ipexpert labs that we should not use show run during debugging/troubleshooting.Is it so ? In real lab does that matter whether we resolve the teacat or it too matters how we resolve it.For example: Does the script expect us to use so and so show command(may be we might have used debug command) ? -raj *From:* ccie_rs-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto: ccie_rs-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] *On Behalf Of *Rick Mur *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:27 AM *To:* Steve Shaw *Cc:* jmangaw...@gmail.com; ccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] My lab v4.0 experience,for those of you dying to know Great feedback!! I hear that the lab is quite fair from most people. I guess it's just the new environment and way of working which causes too much stress or confusion. I think Cisco did a great job in making it a fair exam, which focuses way more on the core technologies and troubleshooting than just knowing every stupid little command :-) I'm convinced that you will pass the next time! Keep up this spirit! -- Regards, Rick Mur CCIE2 #21946 (RS / Service Provider) Sr. Support Engineer – IPexpert, Inc. URL: http://www.IPexpert.com On 26 okt 2009, at 22:37, Steve Shaw wrote: Awesome feedback. Thanks! On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 5:09 PM, pra pa patelpr...@hotmail.com wrote: with all toppings!!! :-) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:06:24 -0500 From: jmangaw...@gmail.com To: nickst...@yahoo.com; ccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] My lab v4.0 experience, for those of you dying to know Haha, yep. In my case, a $1400 slice of pizza! On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 4:01 PM, nickst...@yahoo.com wrote: Wow. Good feedback I just read your entire post so I need to digest it. It sounds like you are very close and sound very upbeat on your temporary defeat. At least you know have a gameplan on how to attack. 1400 dollar sandwich strikes again! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: jmangawang jmangaw...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:39:42 To: CCIE OSLccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] My lab v4.0 experience, for those of you dying to know ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com -- Windows 7: It helps you do more. Explore Windows 7.http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen3:102009 ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com -- CCNA - Cisco Certified Network Associate CCNP - Cisco Certified Network Professional A bird that you set free may be caught again, but a word that escapes your lips will not return. Jewish Proverb ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] My lab v4.0 experience, for those of you dying to know
The lab definitely allows you to use show run. And, if you can click on a device on the diagram and it comes up with a terminal window, then you've got full access to that device. As far as I could tell, I had all my commands. There's a documentation section that tells you what you are allowed to do and not do. I don't remember exactly what it said, but the general idea was that your solutions should be fairly simple, i.e. modify a few lines on one or more devices. But, it was pretty clear that you shouldn't make huge sweeping changes, i.e. replace RIP with EIGRP. I found most of my answers were modification of a few lines. It's one of those things that once you recognize what is supposed to happen, then you review the config (using sh run), you'll usually see what it is you need to fix. Hope that helps. On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 8:11 AM, Dande Rajasekhar (drajasek) draja...@cisco.com wrote: Guys, One quick question.I saw in ipexpert labs that we should not use show run during debugging/troubleshooting.Is it so ? In real lab does that matter whether we resolve the teacat or it too matters how we resolve it.For example: Does the script expect us to use so and so show command(may be we might have used debug command) ? -raj ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] My lab v4.0 experience
Thank you for sharing your 4.0 lab experience. I know I've been incredibly curious about what they have changed so this was helpful. One thing that you (and others) have mentioned about the exam that I don't care for is the lack of a printed lab manual. I like that they have a large monitor, but if they are going to take away the printed manual I'd rather have two monitors. One for the PDF and one for the exam itself. At the very least they should give those of us raised on hard copy the option of getting a printed manual. ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] My lab v4.0 experience, for those of you dying to know
Thanks for sharing and keep up the spirit Good luck next time!! Angel. On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 4:39 PM, jmangawang jmangaw...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I took the v4.0 lab last week and even though I walked out knowing I failed, I was actually quite impressed with the test as a whole. I took my test in San Jose, mostly so that I could take advantage of gaining 2 extra hours (I live in Central time zone). First time I took my test, I went to RTP and lost an hour which really took a toll, since I had to wake up earlier also. Anyway, I did get my full 8 hours of sleep the night before, ate a decent breakfast and went on to Building C. There were two other candidates, one taking RS, the other taking SP. I chatted it up with the other RS candidate for about 20 minutes talking mostly about what I had read about regarding the new test format. If you haven't done so already, read these posts: http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/46561 and https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/thread/8262. One other thing, I won't mention any specific topics that I got on my exam due to NDA, but I'll describe as best as I can the overall look and feel, as well as my impressions. The proctor took us to the lab room around 8:20am, gave us our seating assignments, then gave me and the other RS candidate an extra 5 minute set of instructions on how to log into the new web interface. Then we sat down and started our test. For those of you interested, you get 2 sheets of writing paper, and a 3rd sheet that has login info for the troubleshooting/lab config portion. You're in a half-height cubicle with one neighbor. You get a hodge podge of colored pencils and a really nice widescreen monitor. I use a 20 widescreen at work and these were way bigger, maybe 24? I don't know. But they were nice. The core knowledge/OEQs (open-ended questions) are 4 questions of which you must get 3 correct or you fail the whole exam. The proctor told us to use short, concise answers. He said it's because they don't like to read really long answers (that's not official, just something he said). When I failed the v3.0 test back in August, it was because of these OEQs. I made it a point to read any/everything in the Cisco Documentation site that pertained to a v4.0 Blueprint topic. I also made it a point to do as many show commands during my lab work, just so I'd know what I was look at. That definitely paid off because I got 1 question which I knew without thinking about, 2 others where I was 90% certain, and 1 which I had never seen before. Needless to say, I passed the section and I didn't even think twice about those questions once I started the troubleshooting section. Word of advice: Read the questions several times before answering. On the 2 that I was 90% sure of, I actually had written a different answer the first time, but based on specific words in the question/diagram, I ended up changing them. I'm glad I did. Next came the troubleshooting section. You have to bring us IE and log into a webpage using the 3rd piece of paper on your desk. Once in, you're given an opportunity to view screenshots of what the new interface looks like. Basically, the main page of the new interface is a full diagram of the network topology with menu buttons across the top. For the troubleshooting section, one menu opens a popup window showing one ticket at a time, another is a popup showing all tickets listed on a page, another is a control panel to reboot/restore configs on routers(troubleshooting only), another is some documentation about what to do/not do, and then there is the end exam button. The first menu also has diagrams showing things like BGP, routing, cabling, MPLS, etc. There's also a countdown timer in the upper right corner of the main page during the troubleshooting section, but not in the lab configuration portion. To bring up the console of one of the routers, just click on the picture within the diagram and SecureCRT opens up. One annoying thing is that if you have several router consoles up, then you click on the trouble ticket window, the main page covers up your console windows. This is described in more detail in one of the review links I posted up top. The troubleshooting section itself is not too bad, but can be a bit overwhelming at first. Keep in mind that you are learning a new interface and trying to understand a new topology and you only have 2 hours to do it in. You really need to keep calm, and focused, and not spend too much time figuring out how the topology is set up. Rather, go through the tickets, find the devices referenced in the tickets, and work the specific issues. I found most of my fixes were reasonably simple. As with any CCIE lab, time management is important. I got caught up on the first 2 tickets and wasted 30 minutes before giving up on them and going after the remaining tickets. I was able to knock out the other
Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Countdown to your lab!
Ditto! We will all be thinking of you dude...I hope you are the FIRST we hear about passing CCIE v4.0 : ) Best of luck, and can't wait to hear about your experience. On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:04 PM, nickst...@yahoo.com wrote: Countdown! Hey Michael I know tomorrow is the day of your lab. go nail it! I just realized you could be in another time zone...but still go get it! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com -- Regards, Joe Astorino CCIE #24347 (RS) Sr. Technical Instructor - IPexpert Mailto: jastor...@ipexpert.com Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 Live Assistance, Please visit: www.ipexpert.com/chat eFax: +1.810.454.0130 IPexpert is a premier provider of Classroom and Self-Study Cisco CCNA (RS, Voice Security), CCNP, CCVP, CCSP and CCIE (RS, Voice, Security Service Provider) Certification Training with locations throughout the United States, Europe and Australia. Be sure to check out our online communities at www.ipexpert.com/communities and our public website at www.ipexpert.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
[OSL | CCIE_RS] Address-family
I am struggling with the concept of address-family's. Does creating an address-family create like a virtual router? Not sure why I would be using it. ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Countdown to your lab!
Thanks guys, I appreciate the support. It was a decent drive up to San Jose from LA - a little windy but not bad. I listened to my IP Expert lectures focusing on the things that I felt I needed to. I think it was helpful. Overall, I know what I know pretty well but being that they had added what they added to the blue print - well I'm worried about 'CCIE Lab Karma' in that I'll get tested on that which I know the least. =-) Plus, I'm still completely freaked out about the OEQs which are what got me last time. I have not heard a single passing story yet which is not encouraging. All of the feedback we have seen so far - none of it has made me feel more confident. Such is life. I'll let you know how it goes after. =-) -Mike -Original Message- From: ccie_rs-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_rs-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of ccie_rs-requ...@onlinestudylist.com Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:25 PM To: ccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com Subject: CCIE_RS Digest, Vol 45, Issue 153 Send CCIE_RS mailing list submissions to ccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ccie_rs-requ...@onlinestudylist.com You can reach the person managing the list at ccie_rs-ow...@onlinestudylist.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of CCIE_RS digest... Today's Topics: 1. Countdown to your lab! (nickst...@yahoo.com) 2. Re: Countdown to your lab! (Joe Astorino) 3. Re: Countdown to your lab! (Kim Pedersen) 4. RS Lab8 Question 8.8 (Jay Zitcovich (jzitcovi)) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:04:06 + From: nickst...@yahoo.com Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Countdown to your lab! To: mich...@lipsey.yahoo.com Cc: ccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com Message-ID: 373451874-1256662798-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-11135641...@b da694.bisx.prod.on.blackberry Content-Type: text/plain Countdown! Hey Michael I know tomorrow is the day of your lab. go nail it! I just realized you could be in another time zone...but still go get it! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:32:45 -0400 From: Joe Astorino jastor...@ipexpert.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Countdown to your lab! To: nickst...@yahoo.com Cc: ccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com, mich...@lipsey.yahoo.com Message-ID: d77cbc750910271132i713bc18dh1d3f34bd11624...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Ditto! We will all be thinking of you dude...I hope you are the FIRST we hear about passing CCIE v4.0 : ) Best of luck, and can't wait to hear about your experience. On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:04 PM, nickst...@yahoo.com wrote: Countdown! Hey Michael I know tomorrow is the day of your lab. go nail it! I just realized you could be in another time zone...but still go get it! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com -- Regards, Joe Astorino CCIE #24347 (RS) Sr. Technical Instructor - IPexpert Mailto: jastor...@ipexpert.com Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 Live Assistance, Please visit: www.ipexpert.com/chat eFax: +1.810.454.0130 IPexpert is a premier provider of Classroom and Self-Study Cisco CCNA (RS, Voice Security), CCNP, CCVP, CCSP and CCIE (RS, Voice, Security Service Provider) Certification Training with locations throughout the United States, Europe and Australia. Be sure to check out our online communities at www.ipexpert.com/communities and our public website at www.ipexpert.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://onlinestudylist.com/pipermail/ccie_rs/attachments/20091027/ecef2fa0/a ttachment-0001.htm -- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:06:11 +0100 From: Kim Pedersen k.jun...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Countdown to your lab! To: Joe Astorino jastor...@ipexpert.com Cc: ccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com, mich...@lipsey.yahoo.com Message-ID: d9940d910910271206m1f2629f3uda43ec18fd34...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Good Luck Michael, Will be rooting for you! Kim On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Joe Astorino jastor...@ipexpert.comwrote: Ditto! We will all be thinking of you dude...I hope you are the FIRST we hear about passing CCIE v4.0 : ) Best of luck, and can't wait to hear about your experience. On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:04 PM, nickst...@yahoo.com wrote: Countdown! Hey Michael I know tomorrow is the day of your lab. go nail it! I just realized you could be in another time zone...but still go get it! Sent from my Verizon
Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Countdown to your lab!
Michael, Have a nice dinner and go rest.Great luck tomorrow and think positive!!! Regards, Angel. On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Michael Lipsey mich...@thelipseys.comwrote: Thanks guys, I appreciate the support. It was a decent drive up to San Jose from LA - a little windy but not bad. I listened to my IP Expert lectures focusing on the things that I felt I needed to. I think it was helpful. Overall, I know what I know pretty well but being that they had added what they added to the blue print - well I'm worried about 'CCIE Lab Karma' in that I'll get tested on that which I know the least. =-) Plus, I'm still completely freaked out about the OEQs which are what got me last time. I have not heard a single passing story yet which is not encouraging. All of the feedback we have seen so far - none of it has made me feel more confident. Such is life. I'll let you know how it goes after. =-) -Mike -Original Message- From: ccie_rs-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_rs-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of ccie_rs-requ...@onlinestudylist.com Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:25 PM To: ccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com Subject: CCIE_RS Digest, Vol 45, Issue 153 Send CCIE_RS mailing list submissions to ccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ccie_rs-requ...@onlinestudylist.com You can reach the person managing the list at ccie_rs-ow...@onlinestudylist.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of CCIE_RS digest... Today's Topics: 1. Countdown to your lab! (nickst...@yahoo.com) 2. Re: Countdown to your lab! (Joe Astorino) 3. Re: Countdown to your lab! (Kim Pedersen) 4. RS Lab8 Question 8.8 (Jay Zitcovich (jzitcovi)) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:04:06 + From: nickst...@yahoo.com Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Countdown to your lab! To: mich...@lipsey.yahoo.com Cc: ccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com Message-ID: 373451874-1256662798-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-11135641...@b da694.bisx.prod.on.blackberry Content-Type: text/plain Countdown! Hey Michael I know tomorrow is the day of your lab. go nail it! I just realized you could be in another time zone...but still go get it! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:32:45 -0400 From: Joe Astorino jastor...@ipexpert.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Countdown to your lab! To: nickst...@yahoo.com Cc: ccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com, mich...@lipsey.yahoo.com Message-ID: d77cbc750910271132i713bc18dh1d3f34bd11624...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Ditto! We will all be thinking of you dude...I hope you are the FIRST we hear about passing CCIE v4.0 : ) Best of luck, and can't wait to hear about your experience. On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:04 PM, nickst...@yahoo.com wrote: Countdown! Hey Michael I know tomorrow is the day of your lab. go nail it! I just realized you could be in another time zone...but still go get it! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com -- Regards, Joe Astorino CCIE #24347 (RS) Sr. Technical Instructor - IPexpert Mailto: jastor...@ipexpert.com Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 Live Assistance, Please visit: www.ipexpert.com/chat eFax: +1.810.454.0130 IPexpert is a premier provider of Classroom and Self-Study Cisco CCNA (RS, Voice Security), CCNP, CCVP, CCSP and CCIE (RS, Voice, Security Service Provider) Certification Training with locations throughout the United States, Europe and Australia. Be sure to check out our online communities at www.ipexpert.com/communities and our public website at www.ipexpert.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://onlinestudylist.com/pipermail/ccie_rs/attachments/20091027/ecef2fa0/a ttachment-0001.htm -- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:06:11 +0100 From: Kim Pedersen k.jun...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Countdown to your lab! To: Joe Astorino jastor...@ipexpert.com Cc: ccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com, mich...@lipsey.yahoo.com Message-ID: d9940d910910271206m1f2629f3uda43ec18fd34...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Good Luck Michael, Will be rooting for you! Kim On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Joe Astorino jastor...@ipexpert.com wrote: Ditto! We will all be thinking of you dude...I hope you are the FIRST we hear about passing CCIE v4.0 : ) Best of luck, and can't wait
Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Address-family
Simple answer there is it can... But not always. The virtual router thing happens when you use address-family ipv4 vrf xxx where the vrf is your routing instance. In all other instances it is a way of separating bits and pieces. Namely the session info (how the neighbours are set up) and the policy info (route-maps, prefix-lists, anything that has to do with the routing itself). The only thing I can compare it to really is IPSec (now this is NOT 100% holding true here). Think of the info under router bgp being your isakmp - where you are working out how you talk to the other peer. Think of the info under your address-family as the policy info... With your IPSec this is your encryption details, with BGP it is the routing. Hope this makes sense... Just be wary of my IPSec comparison... It is not really apples to apples comparison but it really does not compare to anything else that I can think of :) Cheers, Matt CCIE #22386 CCSI #31207 2009/10/28 Bodnar, Edward edward.bod...@unisys.com: I am struggling with the concept of address-family's. Does creating an address-family create like a virtual router? Not sure why I would be using it. ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Address-family
Hey Ed, Every address family essentially has it's own BGP RIB. We have a BGP table for every address family such as ipv4, ipv6, vpnv4, ipv4 vrf , etc... --Original Message-- From: Bodnar, Edward Sender: ccie_rs-boun...@onlinestudylist.com To: CCIE OSL Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Address-family Sent: Oct 27, 2009 8:53 PM I am struggling with the concept of address-family's. Does creating an address-family create like a virtual router? Not sure why I would be using it. ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Regards, Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347 RS Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc. Cell: +1.586.212.6107 Fax: +1.810.454.0130 Mailto: jastor...@ipexpert.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Countdown to your lab!
Hi, On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Kim Pedersen k.jun...@gmail.com wrote: Good Luck Michael, Will be rooting for you! Kim Sorry, but we won't be rooting for you in Australia. We all really hope you pass, but I don't think anyone's keen enough to *root* for you. I'll stand corrected. I don't know Matt Hill personally but he might be that kind of guy. cheers, Dale ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Countdown to your lab!
What are you saying? I rather enjoy rooting. Are you saying you don't? Cheers, Matt CCIE #22386 CCSI #31207 2009/10/28 Dale Shaw dale.shaw+cci...@gmail.com: Hi, On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Kim Pedersen k.jun...@gmail.com wrote: Good Luck Michael, Will be rooting for you! Kim Sorry, but we won't be rooting for you in Australia. We all really hope you pass, but I don't think anyone's keen enough to *root* for you. I'll stand corrected. I don't know Matt Hill personally but he might be that kind of guy. cheers, Dale ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Countdown to your lab!
All I'm sayin' is some other guy's CCIE journey isn't at the front of my mind. So you ARE that kind of guy! Oh well, whatever it takes I guess. I never want to see your *O*SPF face. cheers, Dale On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Matt Hill mayd...@gmail.com wrote: What are you saying? I rather enjoy rooting. Are you saying you don't? Cheers, Matt CCIE #22386 CCSI #31207 2009/10/28 Dale Shaw dale.shaw+cci...@gmail.com: Hi, On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Kim Pedersen k.jun...@gmail.com wrote: Good Luck Michael, Will be rooting for you! Kim Sorry, but we won't be rooting for you in Australia. We all really hope you pass, but I don't think anyone's keen enough to *root* for you. I'll stand corrected. I don't know Matt Hill personally but he might be that kind of guy. ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Countdown to your lab!
I think he was referring to the literal definition of 'root' which is something that a pig generally does. =-) -Original Message- From: BODA, BRIAN [mailto:brian.b...@hp.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:46 PM To: Dale Shaw; Matt Hill Cc: CCIE_RS OnlineStudyList; mich...@thelipseys.com Subject: RE: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Countdown to your lab! Wow Dale! So disappointing that you cannot bring yourself to be happy that someone else is trying to climb the mountain. How did you really feel when Joe Astorino pasted earlier this year? Brian Boda -Original Message- From: ccie_rs-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_rs-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Dale Shaw Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:35 PM To: Matt Hill Cc: CCIE_RS OnlineStudyList; mich...@thelipseys.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Countdown to your lab! All I'm sayin' is some other guy's CCIE journey isn't at the front of my mind. So you ARE that kind of guy! Oh well, whatever it takes I guess. I never want to see your *O*SPF face. cheers, Dale On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Matt Hill mayd...@gmail.com wrote: What are you saying? I rather enjoy rooting. Are you saying you don't? Cheers, Matt CCIE #22386 CCSI #31207 2009/10/28 Dale Shaw dale.shaw+cci...@gmail.com: Hi, On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Kim Pedersen k.jun...@gmail.com wrote: Good Luck Michael, Will be rooting for you! Kim Sorry, but we won't be rooting for you in Australia. We all really hope you pass, but I don't think anyone's keen enough to *root* for you. I'll stand corrected. I don't know Matt Hill personally but he might be that kind of guy. ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Countdown to your lab!
Brian, On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 12:45 PM, BODA, BRIAN brian.b...@hp.com wrote: Wow Dale! So disappointing that you cannot bring yourself to be happy that someone else is trying to climb the mountain. How did you really feel when Joe Astorino pasted earlier this year? Actually, in that particular case, I had a life-sized cut-out picture of Joe just above my bed head. I felt great. Thanks for asking! See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_English_vocabulary#Sport :-) cheers, Dale ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com