Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] so why 2950 supports 64 vlans?

2009-10-27 Thread Jeremy L. Gaddis
You're joking, right?



On 10/27/09, Bayan Sardari bayan.sard...@yahoo.com wrote:
 hi all
 thanks for your good comments but if 2950 doesen't support more than one ip
 why does it support 64 vlans?it means we coulden't have more that one vlan
 on it?we coulden't link it to a router (2621 for example)and do intervlan
 routing?
 i am confused!
 bayan





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Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] so why 2950 supports 64 vlans?

2009-10-27 Thread Aung Phyo Lwin
Hi Bayan,

In 2950, the IP is only for mangement. 
Vlan is Vlan, not to confuse with Vlan interface which is used for mangement 
only in L2 Sw. You cannot do intervlan routing within 2950. You need trunk to 
L3 device/router to do it.
You don't even need IP address to use 2950 Sw and Vlan. You can still manage 
via console port.





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To: ccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 15:06:56
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] so why 2950 supports 64 vlans?


hi all
thanks for your good comments but if 2950 doesen't support more than one ip why 
does it support 64 vlans?it means we coulden't have more that one vlan on it?we 
coulden't link it to a router (2621 for example)and do intervlan routing?
i am confused!
bayan 



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Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] so why 2950 supports 64 vlans?

2009-10-27 Thread Rick Mur
And for the limitation of 64 VLANs, remember that you can have multiple
switches daisy-chained with trunks and that  could mean that you have
traversing a lot of VLANs.


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On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Aung Phyo Lwin aungphyol...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Hi Bayan,

 In 2950, the IP is only for mangement.
 Vlan is Vlan, not to confuse with Vlan interface which is used for
 mangement only in L2 Sw. You cannot do intervlan routing within 2950. You
 need trunk to L3 device/router to do it.
 You don't even need IP address to use 2950 Sw and Vlan. You can still
 manage via console port.


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 *To:* ccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2009 15:06:56
 *Subject:* [OSL | CCIE_RS] so why 2950 supports 64 vlans?

   hi all
 thanks for your good comments but if 2950 doesen't support more than one ip
 why does it support 64 vlans?it means we coulden't have more that one vlan
 on it?we coulden't link it to a router (2621 for example)and do intervlan
 routing?
 i am confused!
 bayan


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Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] so why 2950 supports 64 vlans?

2009-10-27 Thread Kaj Niemi

AFAIR the 64 VLAN limitation applies only if you're not using MST.


Kaj



 From: Rick Mur r...@ipexpert.com
 Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:18:59 -0700
 To: Aung Phyo Lwin aungphyol...@yahoo.com
 Cc: ccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] so why 2950 supports 64 vlans?
 
 And for the limitation of 64 VLANs, remember that you can have multiple
 switches daisy-chained with trunks and that  could mean that you have
 traversing a lot of VLANs.
 
 
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 On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Aung Phyo Lwin aungphyol...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 Hi Bayan,
  
 In 2950, the IP is only for mangement.
 Vlan is Vlan, not to confuse with Vlan interface which is used for mangement
 only in L2 Sw. You cannot do intervlan routing within 2950. You need trunk to
 L3 device/router to do it.
 You don't even need IP address to use 2950 Sw and Vlan. You can still manage
 via console port.
  
 
 
 From: Bayan Sardari bayan.sard...@yahoo.com
 To: ccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 15:06:56
 Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] so why 2950 supports 64 vlans?
 
 hi all
 thanks for your good comments but if 2950 doesen't support more than one ip
 why does it support 64 vlans?it means we coulden't have more that one vlan on
 it?we coulden't link it to a router (2621 for example)and do intervlan
 routing?
 i am confused!
 bayan
 
 
  
 
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] CCIE_RS Digest, Vol 45, Issue 149

2009-10-27 Thread Ian Whitmore
 wrote:

 I'm wondering how I could purchase from ebay.com when they only ship
 in the U.S. and I'm in Asia. Does anyone know how ?
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 From: Mark Holloway m...@markholloway.com
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] ebay router and switch purchase
 To: Antonio Dee antonio_...@hotmail.com
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 Have you tried Cables and Kits?  They sell used (and new) Cisco
 hardware for decent prices and ship international.  I've always had
 excellent service from them.  They sell on ebay as well as their own
 web site.


 On Oct 26, 2009, at 4:28 PM, Antonio Dee wrote:

 Thanks for sharing Carlos

 I think this is a good one to have.

 I guess i'll get one if they ship internationally

 cheers!
 antonio


 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:23:09 -0700
 From: cvalero0...@yahoo.com
 To: r...@ipexpert.com
 CC: ccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] ebay router and switch purchase

 I think that Ciscoland.net does ship overseas..

 I live in the US, but when I bought something from them, I remember
 that I saw the International shipment option.


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 From: Rick Mur r...@ipexpert.com
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] ebay router and switch purchase
 To: Carlos Valero cvalero0...@yahoo.com
 Cc: nd reyes reyes...@gmail.com, Iwan Hoogendoorn 
 i...@ipexpert.com
 , ccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com
 Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 9:04 AM

 If the seller doesn't offer you to ship to the country you live in,
 than it's impossible to buy.
 There some ways around this. There are services that you can ship
 your package too and they re-package it and send it to your home.
 Try googling for 'Address in the US' or something. You will get a
 P.O box or something in the US then, which someone empties and
 resends to you. I personally don't really like doing that, but it
 could help :-)

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 cvalero0...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Have you tried ciscoland.net ?

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 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] ebay router and switch purchase
 To: nd reyes reyes...@gmail.com
 Cc: ccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com
 Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 4:56 AM


 Hi,

 Just create an ebay account.
 Make sure you have a creditcard or Paypal set up
 Bid in a switche and make sure you win the auction or do a buy it
 now
 Make sure the seller is willing to ship the item to your desired
 location.

 More infor can be found on google ;-)

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] My lab v4.0 experience, for those of you dying to know

2009-10-27 Thread Dande Rajasekhar (drajasek)
Guys,

 

 One quick question.I saw in ipexpert labs that we should not
use show run during debugging/troubleshooting.Is it so ? In real lab
does that matter whether we resolve the teacat or it too matters how we
resolve it.For example: Does the script expect us to use so and so show
command(may be we might have used debug command) ?

 

-raj

 

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Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:27 AM
To: Steve Shaw
Cc: jmangaw...@gmail.com; ccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] My lab v4.0 experience,for those of you
dying to know

 

Great feedback!!  I hear that the lab is quite fair from most people. I
guess it's just the new environment and way of working which causes too
much stress or confusion. I think Cisco did a great job in making it a
fair exam, which focuses way more on the core technologies and
troubleshooting than just knowing every stupid little command :-)

 

I'm convinced that you will pass the next time! Keep up this spirit! 

 

 

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On 26 okt 2009, at 22:37, Steve Shaw wrote:





Awesome feedback. Thanks!

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 5:09 PM, pra pa patelpr...@hotmail.com wrote:

with all toppings!!! :-)
 
 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:06:24 -0500
 From: jmangaw...@gmail.com
 To: nickst...@yahoo.com; ccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] My lab v4.0 experience, for those of you
dying to know


 
 Haha, yep. In my case, a $1400 slice of pizza!
 
 On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 4:01 PM, nickst...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Wow. Good feedback I just read your entire post so I need to digest
it. It sounds like you are very close and sound very upbeat on your
temporary defeat. At least you know have a gameplan on how to attack.
 
  1400 dollar sandwich strikes again!
  Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
 
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  Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:39:42
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  Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] My lab v4.0 experience,
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] My lab v4.0 experience, for those of you dying to know

2009-10-27 Thread Fabio Mendes
Nice feedback jmangawang, thank you very much for sharing your exerience
with us.

wish you thrive on your next try.

regards,

Fábio


On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Dande Rajasekhar (drajasek) 
draja...@cisco.com wrote:

  Guys,



  One quick question.I saw in ipexpert labs that we should not use
 show run during debugging/troubleshooting.Is it so ? In real lab does that
 matter whether we resolve the teacat or it too matters how we resolve it.For
 example: Does the script expect us to use so and so show command(may be we
 might have used debug command) ?



 -raj



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 ccie_rs-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] *On Behalf Of *Rick Mur
 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:27 AM
 *To:* Steve Shaw
 *Cc:* jmangaw...@gmail.com; ccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com

 *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] My lab v4.0 experience,for those of you
 dying to know



 Great feedback!!  I hear that the lab is quite fair from most people. I
 guess it's just the new environment and way of working which causes too much
 stress or confusion. I think Cisco did a great job in making it a fair exam,
 which focuses way more on the core technologies and troubleshooting than
 just knowing every stupid little command :-)



 I'm convinced that you will pass the next time! Keep up this spirit!





 --

 Regards,

 Rick Mur
 CCIE2 #21946 (RS / Service Provider)
 Sr. Support Engineer – IPexpert, Inc.
 URL: http://www.IPexpert.com



 On 26 okt 2009, at 22:37, Steve Shaw wrote:



  Awesome feedback. Thanks!

 On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 5:09 PM, pra pa patelpr...@hotmail.com wrote:

 with all toppings!!! :-)

  Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:06:24 -0500
  From: jmangaw...@gmail.com
  To: nickst...@yahoo.com; ccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com
  Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] My lab v4.0 experience, for those of you
 dying to know


 
  Haha, yep. In my case, a $1400 slice of pizza!
 
  On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 4:01 PM, nickst...@yahoo.com wrote:
   Wow. Good feedback I just read your entire post so I need to digest it.
 It sounds like you are very close and sound very upbeat on your temporary
 defeat. At least you know have a gameplan on how to attack.
  
   1400 dollar sandwich strikes again!
   Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
  
   -Original Message-
   From: jmangawang jmangaw...@gmail.com
   Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:39:42
   To: CCIE OSLccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com
   Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] My lab v4.0 experience,
  for those of you dying to know
  
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] My lab v4.0 experience, for those of you dying to know

2009-10-27 Thread jmangawang
The lab definitely allows you to use show run.  And, if you can click
on a device on the diagram and it comes up with a terminal window,
then you've got full access to that device.  As far as I could tell, I
had all my commands.  There's a documentation section that tells you
what you are allowed to do and not do.  I don't remember exactly what
it said, but the general idea was that your solutions should be fairly
simple, i.e. modify a few lines on one or more devices.  But, it was
pretty clear that you shouldn't make huge sweeping changes, i.e.
replace RIP with EIGRP.

I found most of my answers were modification of a few lines.  It's one
of those things that once you recognize what is supposed to happen,
then you review the config (using sh run), you'll usually see what it
is you need to fix.  Hope that helps.

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 8:11 AM, Dande Rajasekhar (drajasek)
draja...@cisco.com wrote:
 Guys,



  One quick question.I saw in ipexpert labs that we should not use
 show run during debugging/troubleshooting.Is it so ? In real lab does that
 matter whether we resolve the teacat or it too matters how we resolve it.For
 example: Does the script expect us to use so and so show command(may be we
 might have used debug command) ?



 -raj



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Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] My lab v4.0 experience

2009-10-27 Thread Mitch Peterson
Thank you for sharing your 4.0 lab experience.  I know I've been
incredibly curious about what they have changed so this was helpful.
One thing that you (and others) have mentioned about the exam that I
don't care for is the lack of a printed lab manual.  I like that they
have a large monitor, but if they are going to take away the printed
manual I'd rather have two monitors.  One for the PDF and one for the
exam itself.  At the very least they should give those of us raised on
hard copy the option of getting a printed manual.
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] My lab v4.0 experience, for those of you dying to know

2009-10-27 Thread Angel Ramirez-Tejeda
Thanks for sharing and keep up the spirit Good luck next time!!

Angel.

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 4:39 PM, jmangawang jmangaw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, I took the v4.0 lab last week and even though I walked out
 knowing I failed, I was actually quite impressed with the test as a
 whole.  I took my test in San Jose, mostly so that I could take
 advantage of gaining 2 extra hours (I live in Central time zone).
 First time I took my test, I went to RTP and lost an hour which really
 took a toll, since I had to wake up earlier also.  Anyway, I did get
 my full 8 hours of sleep the night before, ate a decent breakfast and
 went on to Building C.
 There were two other candidates, one taking RS, the other taking SP.
 I chatted it up with the other RS candidate for about 20 minutes
 talking mostly about what I had read about regarding the new test
 format.  If you haven't done so already, read these posts:
 http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/46561  and
 https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/thread/8262.  One other thing, I
 won't mention any specific topics that I got on my exam due to NDA,
 but I'll describe as best as I can the overall look and feel, as well
 as my impressions.
 The proctor took us to the lab room around 8:20am, gave us our seating
 assignments, then gave me and the other RS candidate an extra 5
 minute set of instructions on how to log into the new web interface.
 Then we sat down and started our test.
 For those of you interested, you get 2 sheets of writing paper, and a
 3rd sheet that has login info for the troubleshooting/lab config
 portion.  You're in a half-height cubicle with one neighbor.  You get
 a hodge podge of colored pencils and a really nice widescreen monitor.
  I use a 20 widescreen at work and these were way bigger, maybe 24?
 I don't know.  But they were nice.
 The core knowledge/OEQs (open-ended questions) are 4 questions of
 which you must get 3 correct or you fail the whole exam.  The proctor
 told us to use short, concise answers.  He said it's because they
 don't like to read really long answers (that's not official, just
 something he said).  When I failed the v3.0 test back in August,  it
 was because of these OEQs.  I made it a point to read any/everything
 in the Cisco Documentation site that pertained to a v4.0 Blueprint
 topic.  I also made it a point to do as many show commands during my
 lab work, just so I'd know what I was look at.  That definitely paid
 off because I got 1 question which I knew without thinking about, 2
 others where I was 90% certain, and 1 which I had never seen before.
 Needless to say, I passed the section and I didn't even think twice
 about those questions once I started the troubleshooting section.
 Word of advice:  Read the questions several times before answering.
 On the 2 that I was 90% sure of, I actually had written a different
 answer the first time, but based on specific words in the
 question/diagram, I ended up changing them.  I'm glad I did.
 Next came the troubleshooting section.  You have to bring us IE and
 log into a webpage using the 3rd piece of paper on your desk.  Once
 in, you're given an opportunity to view screenshots of what the new
 interface looks like.  Basically, the main page of the new interface
 is a full diagram of the network topology with menu buttons across the
 top.  For the troubleshooting section, one menu opens a popup window
 showing one ticket at a time, another is a popup showing all tickets
 listed on a page, another is a control panel to reboot/restore configs
 on routers(troubleshooting only), another is some documentation about
 what to do/not do, and then there is the end exam button.  The first
 menu also has diagrams showing things like BGP, routing, cabling,
 MPLS, etc.  There's also a countdown timer in the upper right corner
 of the main page during the troubleshooting section, but not in the
 lab configuration portion.  To bring up the console of one of the
 routers, just click on the picture within the diagram and SecureCRT
 opens up.  One annoying thing is that if you have several router
 consoles up, then you click on the trouble ticket window, the main
 page covers up your console windows.  This is described in more detail
 in one of the review links I posted up top.
 The troubleshooting section itself is not too bad, but can be a bit
 overwhelming at first.  Keep in mind that you are learning a new
 interface and trying to understand a new topology and you only have 2
 hours to do it in.  You really need to keep calm, and focused, and not
 spend too much time figuring out how the topology is set up.  Rather,
 go through the tickets, find the devices referenced in the tickets,
 and work the specific issues.  I found most of my fixes were
 reasonably simple.  As with any CCIE lab, time management is
 important.  I got caught up on the first 2 tickets and wasted 30
 minutes before giving up on them and going after the remaining
 tickets.  I was able to knock out the other 

Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Countdown to your lab!

2009-10-27 Thread Joe Astorino
Ditto!  We will all be thinking of you dude...I hope you are the FIRST we
hear about passing CCIE v4.0 : )  Best of luck, and can't wait to hear about
your experience.

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 Countdown! Hey Michael I know tomorrow is the day of your lab. go nail it!
 I just realized you could be in another time zone...but still go get it!
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[OSL | CCIE_RS] Address-family

2009-10-27 Thread Bodnar, Edward
I am struggling with the concept of address-family's.  Does creating an 
address-family create like a virtual router?  Not sure why I would be using it. 
 

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Countdown to your lab!

2009-10-27 Thread Michael Lipsey
Thanks guys, I appreciate the support.

It was a decent drive up to San Jose from LA - a little windy but not bad. I
listened to my IP Expert lectures focusing on the things that I felt I
needed to. I think it was helpful.

Overall, I know what I know pretty well but being that they had added what
they added to the blue print - well I'm worried about 'CCIE Lab Karma' in
that I'll get tested on that which I know the least. =-)

Plus, I'm still completely freaked out about the OEQs which are what got me
last time.

I have not heard a single passing story yet which is not encouraging. All of
the feedback we have seen so far - none of it has made me feel more
confident.

Such is life. I'll let you know how it goes after. =-)

-Mike

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Countdown! Hey Michael I know tomorrow is the day of your lab. go nail it! I
just realized you could be in another time zone...but still go get it!
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Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Countdown to your lab!
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Ditto!  We will all be thinking of you dude...I hope you are the FIRST we
hear about passing CCIE v4.0 : )  Best of luck, and can't wait to hear about
your experience.

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:04 PM, nickst...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Countdown! Hey Michael I know tomorrow is the day of your lab. go nail it!
 I just realized you could be in another time zone...but still go get it!
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Good Luck Michael,

  Will be rooting for you!

Kim

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Joe Astorino jastor...@ipexpert.comwrote:

 Ditto!  We will all be thinking of you dude...I hope you are the FIRST we
 hear about passing CCIE v4.0 : )  Best of luck, and can't wait to hear
about
 your experience.


 On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:04 PM, nickst...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Countdown! Hey Michael I know tomorrow is the day of your lab. go nail
it!
 I just realized you could be in another time zone...but still go get it!
 Sent from my Verizon

Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Countdown to your lab!

2009-10-27 Thread Angel Ramirez-Tejeda
Michael,

Have a nice dinner and go rest.Great luck tomorrow and think positive!!!

Regards,

Angel.

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Michael Lipsey mich...@thelipseys.comwrote:

 Thanks guys, I appreciate the support.

 It was a decent drive up to San Jose from LA - a little windy but not bad.
 I
 listened to my IP Expert lectures focusing on the things that I felt I
 needed to. I think it was helpful.

 Overall, I know what I know pretty well but being that they had added what
 they added to the blue print - well I'm worried about 'CCIE Lab Karma' in
 that I'll get tested on that which I know the least. =-)

 Plus, I'm still completely freaked out about the OEQs which are what got me
 last time.

 I have not heard a single passing story yet which is not encouraging. All
 of
 the feedback we have seen so far - none of it has made me feel more
 confident.

 Such is life. I'll let you know how it goes after. =-)

 -Mike

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 Ditto!  We will all be thinking of you dude...I hope you are the FIRST we
 hear about passing CCIE v4.0 : )  Best of luck, and can't wait to hear
 about
 your experience.

 On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:04 PM, nickst...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Countdown! Hey Michael I know tomorrow is the day of your lab. go nail
 it!
  I just realized you could be in another time zone...but still go get it!
  Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
 
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 Good Luck Michael,

  Will be rooting for you!

 Kim

 On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Joe Astorino jastor...@ipexpert.com
 wrote:

  Ditto!  We will all be thinking of you dude...I hope you are the FIRST we
  hear about passing CCIE v4.0 : )  Best of luck, and can't wait

Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Address-family

2009-10-27 Thread Matt Hill
Simple answer there is it can... But not always.  The virtual router
thing happens when you use address-family ipv4 vrf xxx where the vrf
is your routing instance.

In all other instances it is a way of separating bits and pieces.
Namely the session info (how the neighbours are set up) and the policy
info (route-maps, prefix-lists, anything that has to do with the
routing itself).

The only thing I can compare it to really is IPSec (now this is NOT
100% holding true here).  Think of the info under router bgp being
your isakmp - where you are working out how you talk to the other
peer.  Think of the info under your address-family as the policy
info...  With your IPSec this is your encryption details, with BGP it
is the routing.

Hope this makes sense...  Just be wary of my IPSec comparison...  It
is not really apples to apples comparison but it really does not
compare to anything else that I can think of :)

Cheers,
Matt

CCIE #22386
CCSI #31207

2009/10/28 Bodnar, Edward edward.bod...@unisys.com:
 I am struggling with the concept of address-family's.  Does creating an 
 address-family create like a virtual router?  Not sure why I would be using 
 it.

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Address-family

2009-10-27 Thread Joe Astorino
Hey Ed,

Every address family essentially has it's own BGP RIB. We have a BGP table for 
every address family such as ipv4, ipv6, vpnv4, ipv4 vrf , etc...


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I am struggling with the concept of address-family's.  Does creating an 
address-family create like a virtual router?  Not sure why I would be using it. 
 

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Countdown to your lab!

2009-10-27 Thread Dale Shaw
Hi,

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Kim Pedersen k.jun...@gmail.com wrote:
 Good Luck Michael,

   Will be rooting for you!

 Kim

Sorry, but we won't be rooting for you in Australia. We all really
hope you pass, but I don't think anyone's keen enough to *root* for
you.

I'll stand corrected. I don't know Matt Hill personally but he might
be that kind of guy.

cheers,
Dale
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Countdown to your lab!

2009-10-27 Thread Matt Hill
What are you saying?

I rather enjoy rooting.  Are you saying you don't?

Cheers,
Matt

CCIE #22386
CCSI #31207

2009/10/28 Dale Shaw dale.shaw+cci...@gmail.com:
 Hi,

 On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Kim Pedersen k.jun...@gmail.com wrote:
 Good Luck Michael,

   Will be rooting for you!

 Kim

 Sorry, but we won't be rooting for you in Australia. We all really
 hope you pass, but I don't think anyone's keen enough to *root* for
 you.

 I'll stand corrected. I don't know Matt Hill personally but he might
 be that kind of guy.

 cheers,
 Dale
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Countdown to your lab!

2009-10-27 Thread Dale Shaw
All I'm sayin' is some other guy's CCIE journey isn't at the front of my mind.

So you ARE that kind of guy! Oh well, whatever it takes I guess.

I never want to see your *O*SPF face.

cheers,
Dale

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Matt Hill mayd...@gmail.com wrote:
 What are you saying?

 I rather enjoy rooting.  Are you saying you don't?

 Cheers,
 Matt

 CCIE #22386
 CCSI #31207

 2009/10/28 Dale Shaw dale.shaw+cci...@gmail.com:
 Hi,

 On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Kim Pedersen k.jun...@gmail.com wrote:
 Good Luck Michael,

   Will be rooting for you!

 Kim

 Sorry, but we won't be rooting for you in Australia. We all really
 hope you pass, but I don't think anyone's keen enough to *root* for
 you.

 I'll stand corrected. I don't know Matt Hill personally but he might
 be that kind of guy.
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Countdown to your lab!

2009-10-27 Thread Michael Lipsey
I think he was referring to the literal definition of 'root' which is
something that a pig generally does.

=-)

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From: BODA, BRIAN [mailto:brian.b...@hp.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:46 PM
To: Dale Shaw; Matt Hill
Cc: CCIE_RS OnlineStudyList; mich...@thelipseys.com
Subject: RE: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Countdown to your lab!

Wow Dale!

So disappointing that you cannot bring yourself to be happy that someone
else is trying to climb the mountain.

How did you really feel when Joe Astorino pasted earlier this year?

Brian Boda 


-Original Message-
From: ccie_rs-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
[mailto:ccie_rs-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Dale Shaw
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:35 PM
To: Matt Hill
Cc: CCIE_RS OnlineStudyList; mich...@thelipseys.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Countdown to your lab!

All I'm sayin' is some other guy's CCIE journey isn't at the front of my
mind.

So you ARE that kind of guy! Oh well, whatever it takes I guess.

I never want to see your *O*SPF face.

cheers,
Dale

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Matt Hill mayd...@gmail.com wrote:
 What are you saying?

 I rather enjoy rooting.  Are you saying you don't?

 Cheers,
 Matt

 CCIE #22386
 CCSI #31207

 2009/10/28 Dale Shaw dale.shaw+cci...@gmail.com:
 Hi,

 On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Kim Pedersen k.jun...@gmail.com wrote:
 Good Luck Michael,

   Will be rooting for you!

 Kim

 Sorry, but we won't be rooting for you in Australia. We all really 
 hope you pass, but I don't think anyone's keen enough to *root* for 
 you.

 I'll stand corrected. I don't know Matt Hill personally but he might 
 be that kind of guy.
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Countdown to your lab!

2009-10-27 Thread Dale Shaw
Brian,

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 12:45 PM, BODA, BRIAN brian.b...@hp.com wrote:
 Wow Dale!

 So disappointing that you cannot bring yourself to be happy that someone else 
 is trying to climb the mountain.

 How did you really feel when Joe Astorino pasted earlier this year?

Actually, in that particular case, I had a life-sized cut-out picture
of Joe just above my bed head. I felt great. Thanks for asking!

See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_English_vocabulary#Sport

:-)

cheers,
Dale
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