Summer Of Code/Interns
I heard earlier ( I believe it was last month) that Openmoko was going to try and take part in Google's Summer of code. Has anything more happened with this? As a lowly college student, the idea of getting to work for Openmoko (with or without getting payed) sounds awesome. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSoC 2008: Call for ideas
As I am not an owner of a Neo myself, I do not if this has already been done. What about making it possible to listen music, and as a call comes in(and you answer it), make the music pause. I know this is a small thing, though I don't know how easy it is to implement, but I think it would be quite neat! Best Regards, Jens __ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: hand charger for neo
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 02:41:14 +0100, joerg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i spend a fair part of my time away from power points/computers and having recently got a hand-crank powered torch, i realise this would be the way to go for re-charging my neo. I've one too... I've some connectors for commercial phones, but I don't know how I could use it for my future neo... I've just a two-pin jack-like port... Any idea? get yourself a powered usb-hub Anyway i doubt anyone likes to turn the crank for at least 2 hours, to charge NEO's battery ;-) You wouldn't want to reach 100% battery this way, but you might want to crank for several minutes to send that important SMS you have to send, or make a vital call. -- Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ICQ: 115226275] http://feldgendler.livejournal.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner: charging and usb-host mutually exclusive?
Nice. So you'll only need a special cable do be able go charge and usb-host at the same time? As this cable is a custom one, might be an interesting addition to the openmoko store that was being discussed on some other thread, so hardware-challenged people like me can purchase it. Ivo On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 5:11 AM, Brad Midgley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks joerg I've tried to write this up as succinctly as I can. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware#USB_Host In the end this means: the 47k ID-R should be in the Y-adapter, and you may use arbitrary usb-chargers (1A) with it for quick-charge. However the OM-charger will most probably have an own 47k, so you can use it without the Y-adapter. -- Brad ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner
On Tue, March 11, 2008 9:31 pm, Robin Paulson wrote: is there anything underway to allow nokia n-series software to run on the neo? is it just a matter of installing hildon and some other dependencies? if it's possible, there is always skype That is like asking if there is anything available to run windows software under Linux, and asking that question about 10 years ago. Nokia smartphones run a completely different OS known as Symbian Series 60. In theory someone could start a project similar to Wine that would provide an API layer to allow Series 60 applications to run under ARM linux. (Both the Neo 1973, and Nokia phones use ARM CPUs), but in practice it would be a huge project, so is unlikely to happen any time soon. -- David Pottage Error compiling committee.c To many arguments to function. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner: charging and usb-host mutually exclusive?
I think this cable must be included in the basic packaging!!!( well in the advance packaging at last) If you can plug at time in dc power and usb periphals whith a usb hub and a keyboard (it can be bluetooth or usb!!) you can convert in few seconds a mobile phone in a mini ultraportable desktop computer you can carry any where in your pocket !!! --- Ivo Anjo [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Nice. So you'll only need a special cable do be able go charge and usb-host at the same time? As this cable is a custom one, might be an interesting addition to the openmoko store that was being discussed on some other thread, so hardware-challenged people like me can purchase it. Ivo On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 5:11 AM, Brad Midgley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks joerg I've tried to write this up as succinctly as I can. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware#USB_Host In the end this means: the 47k ID-R should be in the Y-adapter, and you may use arbitrary usb-chargers (1A) with it for quick-charge. However the OM-charger will most probably have an own 47k, so you can use it without the Y-adapter. -- Brad ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community __ Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! El correo favorito de los internautas. http://es.docs.yahoo.com/mail/overview/index.html ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:29:30 +0100, David Pottage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there anything underway to allow nokia n-series software to run on the neo? is it just a matter of installing hildon and some other dependencies? if it's possible, there is always skype That is like asking if there is anything available to run windows software under Linux, and asking that question about 10 years ago. If we're talking about Skype, then Skype for Nokia N800 is more likely to get to run under OM than one for S60. -- Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ICQ: 115226275] http://feldgendler.livejournal.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[OT] Moko 'brand' diversity
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well most of us know the different translations of Moko. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7291501.stm The dolphin that rescued the Sperm Whales was called Moko by local residents. How apt. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH18aIauMjEM4rxIQRAj/AAJ9a1MAhXujrtqbGVETU7j1g1sAvYQCgvaab JYiFCw3oamtyaq5/GeHeWd4= =cWyF -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner
On 12/03/2008, David Pottage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there anything underway to allow nokia n-series software to run on the neo? is it just a matter of installing hildon and some other dependencies? if it's possible, there is always skype That is like asking if there is anything available to run windows software under Linux, and asking that question about 10 years ago. Nokia smartphones run a completely different OS known as Symbian Series 60. In theory someone could start a project similar to Wine that would provide an API layer to allow Series 60 applications to run under ARM linux. (Both the Neo 1973, and Nokia phones use ARM CPUs), but in practice it would be a huge project, so is unlikely to happen any time soon. i'm talking about the internet tablets - they don't run symbian, they run linux http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N800 The operating system, Internet Tablet OS 2007 (also known as Maemo), is a modified version of Debian GNU/Linux (running Linux 2.6.18) So, are there any issues with running software for this OS under OM? is it just a matter of installing the correct dependencies - hildon, etc? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner
Am Mi 12. März 2008 schrieb Robin Paulson: So, are there any issues with running software for this OS under OM? is it just a matter of installing the correct dependencies - hildon, etc? You might compile software source for use on OM, with a little work to fix dependencies. However for sure you can not run precompiled binaries made for another platform - e.g. skype. Binaries are hw-dependent, starting with processor... j ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N800 The operating system, Internet Tablet OS 2007 (also known as Maemo), is a modified version of Debian GNU/Linux (running Linux 2.6.18) isn't maemo derived from OE too? -- Jeff O|||O ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner
Maemo uses framebuffer instead of X, you will have to re-write GUI to port anything to OpenMoko from it. 2008/3/12, joerg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am Mi 12. März 2008 schrieb Robin Paulson: So, are there any issues with running software for this OS under OM? is it just a matter of installing the correct dependencies - hildon, etc? You might compile software source for use on OM, with a little work to fix dependencies. However for sure you can not run precompiled binaries made for another platform - e.g. skype. Binaries are hw-dependent, starting with processor... j ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner
If planning on using a FreeRunner as phone over WiFi you're better off finding some SIP VoIP provider than using Skype with its's proprietary protocol. Why use closed software if the open source alternative could do a better job. Regards Julian On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:15:16 +0100 joerg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Mi 12. März 2008 schrieb Robin Paulson: So, are there any issues with running software for this OS under OM? is it just a matter of installing the correct dependencies - hildon, etc? You might compile software source for use on OM, with a little work to fix dependencies. However for sure you can not run precompiled binaries made for another platform - e.g. skype. Binaries are hw-dependent, starting with processor... j -- |_|0|_| Selbst den schlechtesten Zeiten |_|_|0| ist immer noch eine fröhliche Seite abzugewinnen. |0|0|0| Julian Swagemakers Friedrich-Wilhelm-Str. 25 40625 Düsseldorf / Germany Tel:+49 211 17806334 Mobile: +49 1577 3881364 ICQ:60615765 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OpenMoko and accessories design
Hello all, I know that what I'm gonna ask for is coming in quite late regarding the state of the design of the Neo, but still, I have to ask. I can see quite an opportunity for the Freerunner to be a device around which anybody can design additionnal accessories, thanks to the open philosophy around it. I especially would like to see (or design myself) some kind of base station like the ones existing for the iPod with high-quality loudspeakers. Something like that would obviously provide a mean to recharge the phone battery, but could also be designed to provide conference-call features around the Freerunner. However, from a mechanical point of view, I can see a major show-stopper, being the fact that the Freerunner connectors are positionned on both sides of the device, which leads to no solution to easily drop the device on a base station. I know I'm asking for a big change, but is there any chance the layout can be re-arranged so that the on/off button and the audio connector switch positions in the Freerunner ? Regards, -- Etienne ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner
Hi, i think, Maemo is not using FB directly, it's using an x-server and the matchbox WM. see http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/4-x/maemo_architecture.html#WM cheers Markus 12. März 2008 23:27:56 Denis wrote: Maemo uses framebuffer instead of X, you will have to re-write GUI to port anything to OpenMoko from it. 2008/3/12, joerg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am Mi 12. März 2008 schrieb Robin Paulson: So, are there any issues with running software for this OS under OM? is it just a matter of installing the correct dependencies - hildon, etc? You might compile software source for use on OM, with a little work to fix dependencies. However for sure you can not run precompiled binaries made for another platform - e.g. skype. Binaries are hw-dependent, starting with processor... j ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner
OK, looks like I was wrong. 2008/3/13, Markus Schlichting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, i think, Maemo is not using FB directly, it's using an x-server and the matchbox WM. see http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/4-x/maemo_architecture.html#WM cheers Markus ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko and accessories design
Am Mi 12. März 2008 schrieb Etienne: I especially would like to see (or design myself) some kind of base station like the ones existing for the iPod with high-quality loudspeakers. Something like that would obviously provide a mean to recharge the phone battery, but could also be designed to provide conference-call features around the Freerunner. However, from a mechanical point of view, I can see a major show-stopper, being the fact that the Freerunner connectors are positionned on both sides of the device, which leads to no solution to easily drop the device on a base station. I know I'm asking for a big change, but is there any chance the layout can be re-arranged so that the on/off button and the audio connector switch positions in the Freerunner ? I also like very much to see a drop-in cradle for Freerunner, to charge, sync with PC, and maybe have audio extension. However i don't see a problem with headset connector 1) you won't need it for hands-free/conference, this is (should be) already built in for NEO. 2) for HiFi-stereo the cradle may contain a usb-soundcard. Maybe it's a little tricky to have a soundcard-usb-client and a PC-usb-host connected to NEO at the same time, but if all else fails, there are USB-host2host solutions commonly used to create a usb-based network of 2 PCs. Chances to see any kind of changes in layout of GTA02 PCB/housing are *very* low i think. cheers jOERG ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner
mac2k ha scritto: If planning on using a FreeRunner as phone over WiFi you're better off finding some SIP VoIP provider than using Skype with its's proprietary protocol. Why use closed software if the open source alternative could do a better job. I do totally agree with this, btw a skype client could be useful to contact friends (both by voice and by chatting) that are using the skype client on different platforms. I use skype really few times, but I must admit that is the easier way to talk with a friend using (a bad and proprietary implementation of) VoIP. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko and accessories design
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 5:06 PM, joerg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Mi 12. März 2008 schrieb Etienne: Chances to see any kind of changes in layout of GTA02 PCB/housing are *very* low i think. especially since the GSM antenna is at the bottom ( as far away from the gps antenna as possible) -- Jeff O|||O ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
