Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner
Hello, Jeff Andros schrieb: isn't maemo derived from OE too? no it isn't, but you can build packages for it using OE. Greetings Florian -- The dream of yesterday Florian Boor is the hope of todayTel: +49 271-771091-15 and the reality of tomorrow.Fax: +49 271-771091-19 [Robert Hutchings Goddard, 1904][EMAIL PROTECTED] 1D78 2D4D 6C53 1CA4 5588 D07B A8E7 940C 25B7 9A76 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 09:15:16PM +0100, joerg wrote: Am Mi 12. März 2008 schrieb Robin Paulson: So, are there any issues with running software for this OS under OM? is it just a matter of installing the correct dependencies - hildon, etc? You might compile software source for use on OM, with a little work to fix dependencies. However for sure you can not run precompiled binaries made for another platform - e.g. skype. Binaries are hw-dependent, starting with processor... For SIP and VOIP over XMPP the N8xx uses telepathy[0] and farsight[1] as protocol and streaming backend. What is missing is a UI for OpenMoko. Unfortunately the Nokia frontends are proprietary so can't be re-used. Sjoerd 0: http://telepathy.freedesktop.org 1: http://farsight.freedesktop.org -- Logic is a pretty flower that smells bad. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner
On Tue, March 11, 2008 9:31 pm, Robin Paulson wrote: is there anything underway to allow nokia n-series software to run on the neo? is it just a matter of installing hildon and some other dependencies? if it's possible, there is always skype That is like asking if there is anything available to run windows software under Linux, and asking that question about 10 years ago. Nokia smartphones run a completely different OS known as Symbian Series 60. In theory someone could start a project similar to Wine that would provide an API layer to allow Series 60 applications to run under ARM linux. (Both the Neo 1973, and Nokia phones use ARM CPUs), but in practice it would be a huge project, so is unlikely to happen any time soon. -- David Pottage Error compiling committee.c To many arguments to function. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:29:30 +0100, David Pottage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there anything underway to allow nokia n-series software to run on the neo? is it just a matter of installing hildon and some other dependencies? if it's possible, there is always skype That is like asking if there is anything available to run windows software under Linux, and asking that question about 10 years ago. If we're talking about Skype, then Skype for Nokia N800 is more likely to get to run under OM than one for S60. -- Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ICQ: 115226275] http://feldgendler.livejournal.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner
On 12/03/2008, David Pottage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there anything underway to allow nokia n-series software to run on the neo? is it just a matter of installing hildon and some other dependencies? if it's possible, there is always skype That is like asking if there is anything available to run windows software under Linux, and asking that question about 10 years ago. Nokia smartphones run a completely different OS known as Symbian Series 60. In theory someone could start a project similar to Wine that would provide an API layer to allow Series 60 applications to run under ARM linux. (Both the Neo 1973, and Nokia phones use ARM CPUs), but in practice it would be a huge project, so is unlikely to happen any time soon. i'm talking about the internet tablets - they don't run symbian, they run linux http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N800 The operating system, Internet Tablet OS 2007 (also known as Maemo), is a modified version of Debian GNU/Linux (running Linux 2.6.18) So, are there any issues with running software for this OS under OM? is it just a matter of installing the correct dependencies - hildon, etc? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner
Am Mi 12. März 2008 schrieb Robin Paulson: So, are there any issues with running software for this OS under OM? is it just a matter of installing the correct dependencies - hildon, etc? You might compile software source for use on OM, with a little work to fix dependencies. However for sure you can not run precompiled binaries made for another platform - e.g. skype. Binaries are hw-dependent, starting with processor... j ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N800 The operating system, Internet Tablet OS 2007 (also known as Maemo), is a modified version of Debian GNU/Linux (running Linux 2.6.18) isn't maemo derived from OE too? -- Jeff O|||O ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner
Maemo uses framebuffer instead of X, you will have to re-write GUI to port anything to OpenMoko from it. 2008/3/12, joerg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am Mi 12. März 2008 schrieb Robin Paulson: So, are there any issues with running software for this OS under OM? is it just a matter of installing the correct dependencies - hildon, etc? You might compile software source for use on OM, with a little work to fix dependencies. However for sure you can not run precompiled binaries made for another platform - e.g. skype. Binaries are hw-dependent, starting with processor... j ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner
If planning on using a FreeRunner as phone over WiFi you're better off finding some SIP VoIP provider than using Skype with its's proprietary protocol. Why use closed software if the open source alternative could do a better job. Regards Julian On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:15:16 +0100 joerg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Mi 12. März 2008 schrieb Robin Paulson: So, are there any issues with running software for this OS under OM? is it just a matter of installing the correct dependencies - hildon, etc? You might compile software source for use on OM, with a little work to fix dependencies. However for sure you can not run precompiled binaries made for another platform - e.g. skype. Binaries are hw-dependent, starting with processor... j -- |_|0|_| Selbst den schlechtesten Zeiten |_|_|0| ist immer noch eine fröhliche Seite abzugewinnen. |0|0|0| Julian Swagemakers Friedrich-Wilhelm-Str. 25 40625 Düsseldorf / Germany Tel:+49 211 17806334 Mobile: +49 1577 3881364 ICQ:60615765 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner
Hi, i think, Maemo is not using FB directly, it's using an x-server and the matchbox WM. see http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/4-x/maemo_architecture.html#WM cheers Markus 12. März 2008 23:27:56 Denis wrote: Maemo uses framebuffer instead of X, you will have to re-write GUI to port anything to OpenMoko from it. 2008/3/12, joerg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am Mi 12. März 2008 schrieb Robin Paulson: So, are there any issues with running software for this OS under OM? is it just a matter of installing the correct dependencies - hildon, etc? You might compile software source for use on OM, with a little work to fix dependencies. However for sure you can not run precompiled binaries made for another platform - e.g. skype. Binaries are hw-dependent, starting with processor... j ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner
OK, looks like I was wrong. 2008/3/13, Markus Schlichting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, i think, Maemo is not using FB directly, it's using an x-server and the matchbox WM. see http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/4-x/maemo_architecture.html#WM cheers Markus ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner
mac2k ha scritto: If planning on using a FreeRunner as phone over WiFi you're better off finding some SIP VoIP provider than using Skype with its's proprietary protocol. Why use closed software if the open source alternative could do a better job. I do totally agree with this, btw a skype client could be useful to contact friends (both by voice and by chatting) that are using the skype client on different platforms. I use skype really few times, but I must admit that is the easier way to talk with a friend using (a bad and proprietary implementation of) VoIP. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner
I haven't heard of any VOIP service with a client available for OpenMoko. Someone else probably has better info on this. As far as loading new applications, you will not need a data plan to do that. You could download them straight to the Neo over wi-fi or load them onto the Neo over USB from your computer. -Steven On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Mary Stovel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My questions are... how will the FreeRunner connect using wi-fi so that I can make a call? I know that Truephone and Gizmo have applications that can be downloaded into a cell phone (mostly on the Nokia N and E models). So it seems that I will need a Voip service that is compatible with the Neo FreeRunner.anyone know or is it too early since we do not have the phone in hand. I do not want to buy a data service plan to surf the internet on a cell phone. So will I be able to download new applications into the FreeRunner over my high speed without one? Thanks for any info Mary Stovel ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner
Am Di 11. März 2008 schrieb Steven **: I haven't heard of any VOIP service with a client available for OpenMoko. Someone else probably has better info on this. Provider: any SIP, there are legion Client: any SIP, IIRC there's been a thread on SIP-clients here in the group. Qtopia had one? jOERG ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner
On 12/03/2008, Steven ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't heard of any VOIP service with a client available for OpenMoko. Someone else probably has better info on this. is there anything underway to allow nokia n-series software to run on the neo? is it just a matter of installing hildon and some other dependencies? if it's possible, there is always skype http://www.skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/nokia/ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Mary Stovel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In fact, I named my dog Moko.http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community just in case you're wondering why all the latino people are laughing, moko is booger in spanish... depending on your dog this may be appropriate -- Jeff O|||O ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
