date:20150402

On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 22:54:02 -0400
Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 Greetings all;
 
 Iceweasel commited suicide when I was asked by my bank to delete its 
 history, so now all I get is a blank terminal screen that is using
 100% of a cpu core until I kill it as root.  A total purge and
 reinstall didn't fix it.
 
 Chromium seems incapable of performing an online credit card
 transaction. And crashes anytime I go to abcnews.go.com
 
 So I just dl'd firefox-37 tarball for 64 bit linux and unpacked it
 into my home dirs bin subdir.  But thats likely not going to be great
 as it probably looks someplace else for its libraries  such.
 
 So where is the std place it would normally live?  If it can still
 find the old iceweasel password cache, that would be a huge plus.

Just unpack it wherever you want it - /opt/firefox for example, and put
a symlink to the binary somewhere in your $PATH. It uses the
configuration and everything it can find in your home dir, so that
shouldn't be a problem.

Petter

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Re: firefox-37, where to put

On Thursday 02 April 2015 05:33:35 Petter Adsen wrote:
 On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 05:16:37 -0400

 Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
  wordwrap off so as not to rip up long lines.
 
  On Thursday 02 April 2015 02:35:00 Petter Adsen wrote:
   On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 22:54:02 -0400
  
   Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
Greetings all;
   
Iceweasel commited suicide when I was asked by my bank to delete
its history, so now all I get is a blank terminal screen that is
using 100% of a cpu core until I kill it as root.  A total purge
and reinstall didn't fix it.
   
Chromium seems incapable of performing an online credit card
transaction. And crashes anytime I go to abcnews.go.com
   
So I just dl'd firefox-37 tarball for 64 bit linux and unpacked
it into my home dirs bin subdir.  But thats likely not going to
be great as it probably looks someplace else for its libraries 
such.
   
So where is the std place it would normally live?  If it can
still find the old iceweasel password cache, that would be a
huge plus.
  
   Just unpack it wherever you want it - /opt/firefox for example,
   and put a symlink to the binary somewhere in your $PATH. It uses
   the configuration and everything it can find in your home dir, so
   that shouldn't be a problem.
  
   Petter
 
  Fun  games but not SG. Network-Manager had the last word when I
  excised that piece of insanity, the SOB zeroed out the eth0 settings
  in /etc/network/interfaces.  Bad dog, no biscuit from me.
 
  All discovered and I think fixed as I appear to have restored
  networking now.
 
  All triggered by discovering that the reason I was into swap all the
  time was that for the last 12 days I had been running a 32 bit rtai
  kernel which is NOT PAE, seems I need to edit the default number in
  /boot/grub/grub.cnf, it is not pointing at a 64 bit 3.2.0-4amd64
  vmlinuz.  That discovery in turn triggered by firefox spitting out a
  tummy ache on start attempts.
 
  I renamed the firefox script in /usr/bin/ which was actually running
  iceweasel to /usr/bin/firefux, then made a symlink from
 
  /home/gene/bin/firefox-37/firefox/firefox from /usr/bin/firefox.
 
  So, rebooted to a true 64 bit kernel, but 64 bit firefox refuses to
  run: gene@coyote:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/firefox
  lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 41 Apr  2 04:03 /usr/bin/firefox
  - /home/gene/bin/firefox-37/firefox/firefox Which is correct.  But
  First try it like the renamed script does it:
  gene@coyote:~$ firefox $@
  bash: /usr/bin/firefox: No such file or directory
  Then try w/o the argument.
  gene@coyote:~$ firefox
  bash: /usr/bin/firefox: No such file or directory

 There is something wrong with your link, it links to a file it can't
 find. If you run:

 petter@monster:~$ ln -s foo bar
 petter@monster:~$ ./bar
 bash: ./bar: No such file or directory

 (provided there is no file called foo) you see you get the same
 error. What does ls -l /usr/bin/firefox show you?

  Its 5am, and I don't seem to have even one eye open
  simultaineously...

 Therefore you've probably mistyped your symlink, I would guess :)

  The firefox binary itself
  gene@coyote:~$ ls -l bin/firefox-37/firefox/firefox
  -rwxr-xr-x 1 gene gene 147776 Mar 26 23:51
  bin/firefox-37/firefox/firefox
 
  Its there and executable.  I can't even run it from there with
  sh ./firefox
  or sh ./firefox-bin either of which gets this error:
  gene@coyote:~/bin/firefox-37/firefox$ sh ./firefox
  ./firefox: 2: ./firefox: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string

 Try file firefox - it will show you that it's not a script, it's a
 binary. If you run it with just ./firefox it should work.

  I could use a clue, which will probably make me slap my forhead 
  yell Duh.

 Try some of the above, and report back what file and ls -l on the
 symlink shows you if it doesn't work.
The ls -l is above, file says
gene@coyote:~$ file /usr/bin/firefox
/usr/bin/firefox: symbolic link to 
`/home/gene/bin/firefox-37/firefox/firefox'

gene@coyote:~/bin/firefox-37/firefox$ ./firefox
bash: ./firefox: No such file or directory

gene@coyote:~/bin/firefox-37/firefox$ ls
application.ini  crashreporter.ini   firefox-bin libmozalloc.so
libnssdbm3.chk  libsmime3.so omni.ja   run-mozilla.sh   
webapprt
browser  defaultsgmp-clearkeylibmozsqlite3.so  
libnssdbm3.so   libsoftokn3.chk  platform.ini  Throbber-small.gif   
webapprt-stub
chrome.manifest  dependentlibs.list  icons   libnspr4.so   
libnssutil3.so  libsoftokn3.so   plugin-container  updater
components   dictionarieslibfreebl3.chk  libnss3.so
libplc4.so  libssl3.so   precomplete   updater.ini
crashreporterfirefox libfreebl3.so   libnssckbi.so 
libplds4.so libxul.soremoved-files update-settings.ini
gene@coyote:~/bin/firefox-37/firefox$ 

Maybe it will make sense when I wake up again.

Thanks Petter

 Petter

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: Xorg -configure fails with created screens does not match number of detected devices


Op Thu, 02 Apr 2015 11:40:56 +0200 schreef Floris jkflo...@dds.nl:

Op Thu, 02 Apr 2015 11:22:16 +0200 schreef Venkat Ragavan Swaminathan  
venka...@vortexindia.co.in:



Posted lsmod info : http://pastebin.com/Y79th67k


The right diver is loaded (gma500-gfx) but Xorg doesn't fully use it.

Backup up your Xorg.conf file and create a new one with only

Section Device
  Identifier gma500_gfx
  Driver modesetting
EndSection


Most sites [1][2] add
   Option SWCursor ON
to the Device section

Section Device
Identifier gma500_gfx
Driver modesetting
Option SWCursor ON
EndSection

Success,

floris

[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsPoulsbo
[2] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/poulsbo

Re: Xorg -configure fails with created screens does not match number of detected devices


On 02-04-2015 15:10, Floris wrote:
Op Thu, 02 Apr 2015 11:22:16 +0200 schreef Venkat Ragavan Swaminathan 
venka...@vortexindia.co.in:


Posted lsmod info : http://pastebin.com/Y79th67k


The right diver is loaded (gma500-gfx) but Xorg doesn't fully use it.

Backup up your Xorg.conf file and create a new one with only

Section Device
   Identifier gma500_gfx
   Driver modesetting
EndSection

Hopefully X doesn't fallback to vesa or fbdev

Success,

floris



Modified the XOrg.conf : made sure it has only one entry:

Section Device
   Identifier gma500_gfx
   Driver modesetting
EndSection

on boot : xorg pointer it terminated with an error.

XorgLog: http://pastebin.com/7rpT6D59


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Re: [OT] tamaño diferente al listar por sftp

2015-04-02 Thread petrohs el compa obrero

2015-04-01 22:46 GMT-06:00 Juan Lavieri jlavi...@gmail.com:
 Hola.
Buen día, gracias por responder

 Muy sencillo.

 No son el mismo archivo.
Al principio pensé eso pero si es el mismo archivo :(


 El 1 de abril de 2015, 21:49, petrohs el compa obrero petr...@gmail.com
 escribió:

 Buenas tardes

 Tengo un escenario en donde el mismo archivo al ser listado vía sftp
 me da diferente tamaño

 Tengo un archivo
 ls -l CDR_MX01_03312015223002_03524.dat
 -rw-rw-r--   1 mzadminusers  4617158 Apr  1 18:28
 CDR_MX01_03312015223002_03524.dat

 Se lista el archivo por sftp usando comodines
 echo ls -l /outgoing/cdr/CDR_MX01_03312015*.dat | sftp
 u...@sftp.example.com | grep CDR_MX01_03312015223002_03524.dat




 -rw-rw-r--0 1001 1001   114525 Mar 31 04:00


 Fíjate la fecha y hora de este.
Ese es otro punto extraño, pero las consultas la hago una tras otra, y
no hay cambio en el archivo en el servidor

 /outgoing/cdr/CDR_MX01_03312015223002_03524.dat

 Se lista el mismo archivo directamente
 echo ls -l /outgoing/cdr/CDR_MX01_03312015223002_03524.dat | sftp
 u...@sftp.example.com
 sftp ls -l /outgoing/cdr/CDR_MX01_03312015223002_03524.dat




 -rw-rw-r--0 1001 1001  4617158 Mar 31 17:30


 Y compáralo con la de éste.

 Parece que tienes dos archivos distintos con el mismo nombre en dos lugares
 diferentes.



 /outgoing/cdr/CDR_MX01_03312015223002_03524.dat

 ¿Me podrían orientar en donde configurar para que me den los tamaños
 idénticos al consultar por comodín?
 Seguramente no se preguntar correctamente a google. Y me disculpo con
 la cabeza abajo por ello, pero ustedes son los mejores expertos que
 conozco.
 Gracias


El mismo, archivo, tras las anteriores consultas al realizar
echo ls -l /outgoing/cdr/CDR_MX01_0331201522??*.dat | sftp
u...@sftp.example.com | grep CDR_MX01_03312015223002_03524.dat
Connected to u...@sftp.example.com
-rw-rw-r--0 1001 1001  4467275 Mar 31 17:45
/outgoing/cdr/CDR_MX01_03312015223002_03524.dat
Se ve que poniendo dos comodines mas, acerca el tamaño

El cliente es un hpux B.11.31 U ia64 pero si las mismas acciones lo
hago en un cliente hpux  B.11.23 U ia64 siempre me regresa el mismo
tamaño


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Re: [OT] tamaño diferente al listar por sftp

2015-04-02 Thread Adrià

On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 01:04:13AM -0600, petrohs el compa obrero wrote:
 2015-04-01 22:46 GMT-06:00 Juan Lavieri jlavi...@gmail.com:
  Hola.
 Buen día, gracias por responder
 
  Muy sencillo.
 
  No son el mismo archivo.
 Al principio pensé eso pero si es el mismo archivo :(
 

Puedes asegurarte con un md5sum.
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Re: firefox-37, where to put

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On Thursday 02 April 2015 02:35:00 Petter Adsen wrote:
 On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 22:54:02 -0400

 Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
  Greetings all;
 
  Iceweasel commited suicide when I was asked by my bank to delete its
  history, so now all I get is a blank terminal screen that is using
  100% of a cpu core until I kill it as root.  A total purge and
  reinstall didn't fix it.
 
  Chromium seems incapable of performing an online credit card
  transaction. And crashes anytime I go to abcnews.go.com
 
  So I just dl'd firefox-37 tarball for 64 bit linux and unpacked it
  into my home dirs bin subdir.  But thats likely not going to be
  great as it probably looks someplace else for its libraries  such.
 
  So where is the std place it would normally live?  If it can still
  find the old iceweasel password cache, that would be a huge plus.

 Just unpack it wherever you want it - /opt/firefox for example, and
 put a symlink to the binary somewhere in your $PATH. It uses the
 configuration and everything it can find in your home dir, so that
 shouldn't be a problem.

 Petter

Fun  games but not SG. Network-Manager had the last word when I 
excised that piece of insanity, the SOB zeroed out the eth0 settings 
in /etc/network/interfaces.  Bad dog, no biscuit from me.

All discovered and I think fixed as I appear to have restored networking 
now.

All triggered by discovering that the reason I was into swap all the 
time was that for the last 12 days I had been running a 32 bit rtai 
kernel which is NOT PAE, seems I need to edit the default number in 
/boot/grub/grub.cnf, it is not pointing at a 64 bit 3.2.0-4amd64 
vmlinuz.  That discovery in turn triggered by firefox spitting out a 
tummy ache on start attempts.

I renamed the firefox script in /usr/bin/ which was actually running 
iceweasel to /usr/bin/firefux, then made a symlink from 

/home/gene/bin/firefox-37/firefox/firefox from /usr/bin/firefox.

So, rebooted to a true 64 bit kernel, but 64 bit firefox refuses to run:
gene@coyote:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/firefox
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 41 Apr  2 04:03 /usr/bin/firefox - 
/home/gene/bin/firefox-37/firefox/firefox
Which is correct.  But
First try it like the renamed script does it:
gene@coyote:~$ firefox $@
bash: /usr/bin/firefox: No such file or directory
Then try w/o the argument.
gene@coyote:~$ firefox
bash: /usr/bin/firefox: No such file or directory

Its 5am, and I don't seem to have even one eye open simultaineously...

The firefox binary itself
gene@coyote:~$ ls -l bin/firefox-37/firefox/firefox
-rwxr-xr-x 1 gene gene 147776 Mar 26 23:51 bin/firefox-37/firefox/firefox

Its there and executable.  I can't even run it from there with
sh ./firefox
or sh ./firefox-bin either of which gets this error:
gene@coyote:~/bin/firefox-37/firefox$ sh ./firefox
./firefox: 2: ./firefox: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string

I could use a clue, which will probably make me slap my forhead  yell Duh.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: Xorg -configure fails with created screens does not match number of detected devices

Op Thu, 02 Apr 2015 11:22:16 +0200 schreef Venkat Ragavan Swaminathan  
venka...@vortexindia.co.in:



Posted lsmod info : http://pastebin.com/Y79th67k


The right diver is loaded (gma500-gfx) but Xorg doesn't fully use it.

Backup up your Xorg.conf file and create a new one with only

Section Device
   Identifier gma500_gfx
   Driver modesetting
EndSection

Hopefully X doesn't fallback to vesa or fbdev

Success,

floris

Re: Installation Jessie en UEFI

2015-04-02 Thread Pascal Hambourg

Sylvain L. Sauvage a écrit :
 Le jeudi 2 avril 2015, 00:57:40 Pascal Hambourg a écrit :
 Sylvain L. Sauvage a écrit :
   Il faut savoir que les images (dont netinst) sont déjà
 mixtes UEFI + MBR.

 UEFI + BIOS.
 
   Excuse-moi d'avoir utiliser une métonymie simplificatrice

Cette métonymie est erronée et trompeuse et, loin de simplifier,
contribue à la confusion générale.

   De toute façon, UEFI implique GPT.

 Pour Windows seulement. Linux et GRUB s'accommodent très bien
 de n'importe quelle combinaison entre GPT|MSDOS et UEFI|BIOS.
 
   Sûr. Et ça te fait une belle jambe quand, comme c'est le cas 
 dans ce fil, tu veux avoir Debian ET Windows

Dans sa formulation il n'était pas évident que la validité de cette
affirmation était limitée au cadre de ce fil. Il suffisait de préciser :

Pour Windows, UEFI implique GPT

 Les solutions qui mélangent MBR et UEFI/GPT sont d'affreuses
 bidouilles

 De quelles solutions parles-tu ?
 
   Je parle, toujours dans le cadre de ce fil, d'avoir un Windows 
 en UEFI et d'un Linux en MBR sur un disque en GPT, avec un MBR 
 de compatibilité, et des gymnastiques inhérentes qui sont 
 indéfendables en 2015.

Dans le cadre de ce fil, je ne comprends pas de quoi tu parles. Par MBR
de compatibilité, tu veux dire un MBR hybride ? Linux n'a aucun besoin
de ce genre de bidouille sur un disque au format GPT, que l'amorçage
soit en mode UEFI ou BIOS/CSM/legacy. C'est au contraire Windows qui en
a besoin sur un disque au format GPT avec amorçage en mode BIOS. Mais
cela sort du cadre de ce fil puisqu'on alors n'est plus en UEFI.

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Re: Xorg -configure fails with created screens does not match number of detected devices

Op Thu, 02 Apr 2015 08:08:48 +0200 schreef venkat  
venka...@vortexindia.co.in:



For last one week i am struggling to make my dual display work.
Earlier it was with 2.632 kernel and my previous mail thread Upgrading  
guidance for Cedarview driver in Debian 6 - 2.6.32 Kernel and various  
forums confirmed me that possibility of achieving with 2.6.32 is ZERO. .


Now the board has been updated with 3.4.106 kernel with wheezy.But, when  
i try to run Xorg -configure , it exits with an error message.

created screens does not match number of detected devices

Xorg -configure http://pastebin.com/G7sFuRYN

xorg.0.log : http://pastebin.com/68WQ8Zfv

My requirement does not even worry about screen resolution all i wanted  
is to control my X display like on/off


lspci info : http://pastebin.com/zBVesvmS

Board type : ATOM N2600

request some guidance and troubleshooting ideas,

Regards
Venkat.S




I think you are using the wrong driver. What is the output of
$ lsmod

Maybe you have to add
i915.i915_enable_rc6=1
to the kernel boot line.

success,

floris


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Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-02 Thread Darac Marjal

On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 05:16:37AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
 wordwrap off so as not to rip up long lines.
 
 
 Fun  games but not SG. Network-Manager had the last word when I 
 excised that piece of insanity, the SOB zeroed out the eth0 settings 
 in /etc/network/interfaces.  Bad dog, no biscuit from me.
 
 All discovered and I think fixed as I appear to have restored networking 
 now.
 
 All triggered by discovering that the reason I was into swap all the 
 time was that for the last 12 days I had been running a 32 bit rtai 
 kernel which is NOT PAE, seems I need to edit the default number in 
 /boot/grub/grub.cnf, it is not pointing at a 64 bit 3.2.0-4amd64 
 vmlinuz.  That discovery in turn triggered by firefox spitting out a 
 tummy ache on start attempts.
 
 I renamed the firefox script in /usr/bin/ which was actually running 
 iceweasel to /usr/bin/firefux, then made a symlink from 
 
 /home/gene/bin/firefox-37/firefox/firefox from /usr/bin/firefox.
 
 So, rebooted to a true 64 bit kernel, but 64 bit firefox refuses to run:
 gene@coyote:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/firefox
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 41 Apr  2 04:03 /usr/bin/firefox - 
 /home/gene/bin/firefox-37/firefox/firefox
 Which is correct.  But
 First try it like the renamed script does it:
 gene@coyote:~$ firefox $@
 bash: /usr/bin/firefox: No such file or directory
 Then try w/o the argument.
 gene@coyote:~$ firefox
 bash: /usr/bin/firefox: No such file or directory
 
 Its 5am, and I don't seem to have even one eye open simultaineously...
 
 The firefox binary itself
 gene@coyote:~$ ls -l bin/firefox-37/firefox/firefox
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 gene gene 147776 Mar 26 23:51 bin/firefox-37/firefox/firefox

Often, in this situation, it's not the file you're thinking of which
doesn't exist. When executing a binary file, the kernel will return the
same error (ENOENT) for all files necessary to start the binary. In
other words, you can't immediately tell if it's the binary which doesn't
exist, or the libraries it's linked to.

So, as you know the binary exists, run ldd /usr/bin/firefox to see
which libraries it's linked against and see if they all exist.

 
 Its there and executable.  I can't even run it from there with
 sh ./firefox
 or sh ./firefox-bin either of which gets this error:
 gene@coyote:~/bin/firefox-37/firefox$ sh ./firefox
 ./firefox: 2: ./firefox: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string

Probably because the binary file isn't shell code. You wouldn't have
tried perl ./firefox, would you?

 
 I could use a clue, which will probably make me slap my forhead  yell Duh.
 
 Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: firefox-37, where to put

On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 05:16:37 -0400
Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 wordwrap off so as not to rip up long lines.
 
 On Thursday 02 April 2015 02:35:00 Petter Adsen wrote:
  On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 22:54:02 -0400
 
  Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
   Greetings all;
  
   Iceweasel commited suicide when I was asked by my bank to delete
   its history, so now all I get is a blank terminal screen that is
   using 100% of a cpu core until I kill it as root.  A total purge
   and reinstall didn't fix it.
  
   Chromium seems incapable of performing an online credit card
   transaction. And crashes anytime I go to abcnews.go.com
  
   So I just dl'd firefox-37 tarball for 64 bit linux and unpacked it
   into my home dirs bin subdir.  But thats likely not going to be
   great as it probably looks someplace else for its libraries 
   such.
  
   So where is the std place it would normally live?  If it can still
   find the old iceweasel password cache, that would be a huge plus.
 
  Just unpack it wherever you want it - /opt/firefox for example, and
  put a symlink to the binary somewhere in your $PATH. It uses the
  configuration and everything it can find in your home dir, so that
  shouldn't be a problem.
 
  Petter
 
 Fun  games but not SG. Network-Manager had the last word when I 
 excised that piece of insanity, the SOB zeroed out the eth0 settings 
 in /etc/network/interfaces.  Bad dog, no biscuit from me.
 
 All discovered and I think fixed as I appear to have restored
 networking now.
 
 All triggered by discovering that the reason I was into swap all the 
 time was that for the last 12 days I had been running a 32 bit rtai 
 kernel which is NOT PAE, seems I need to edit the default number in 
 /boot/grub/grub.cnf, it is not pointing at a 64 bit 3.2.0-4amd64 
 vmlinuz.  That discovery in turn triggered by firefox spitting out a 
 tummy ache on start attempts.
 
 I renamed the firefox script in /usr/bin/ which was actually running 
 iceweasel to /usr/bin/firefux, then made a symlink from 
 
 /home/gene/bin/firefox-37/firefox/firefox from /usr/bin/firefox.
 
 So, rebooted to a true 64 bit kernel, but 64 bit firefox refuses to
 run: gene@coyote:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/firefox
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 41 Apr  2 04:03 /usr/bin/firefox
 - /home/gene/bin/firefox-37/firefox/firefox Which is correct.  But
 First try it like the renamed script does it:
 gene@coyote:~$ firefox $@
 bash: /usr/bin/firefox: No such file or directory
 Then try w/o the argument.
 gene@coyote:~$ firefox
 bash: /usr/bin/firefox: No such file or directory

There is something wrong with your link, it links to a file it can't
find. If you run:

petter@monster:~$ ln -s foo bar
petter@monster:~$ ./bar
bash: ./bar: No such file or directory

(provided there is no file called foo) you see you get the same
error. What does ls -l /usr/bin/firefox show you?

 Its 5am, and I don't seem to have even one eye open simultaineously...

Therefore you've probably mistyped your symlink, I would guess :)

 The firefox binary itself
 gene@coyote:~$ ls -l bin/firefox-37/firefox/firefox
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 gene gene 147776 Mar 26 23:51
 bin/firefox-37/firefox/firefox
 
 Its there and executable.  I can't even run it from there with
 sh ./firefox
 or sh ./firefox-bin either of which gets this error:
 gene@coyote:~/bin/firefox-37/firefox$ sh ./firefox
 ./firefox: 2: ./firefox: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string

Try file firefox - it will show you that it's not a script, it's a
binary. If you run it with just ./firefox it should work.

 I could use a clue, which will probably make me slap my forhead 
 yell Duh.

Try some of the above, and report back what file and ls -l on the
symlink shows you if it doesn't work.

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Xorg -configure fails with created screens does not match number of detected devices



For last one week i am struggling to make my dual display work.
Earlier it was with 2.632 kernel and my previous mail thread Upgrading 
guidance for Cedarview driver in Debian 6 - 2.6.32 Kernel and various 
forums confirmed me that possibility of achieving with 2.6.32 is ZERO. .


Now the board has been updated with 3.4.106 kernel with wheezy.But, when 
i try to run Xorg -configure , it exits with an error message.

created screens does not match number of detected devices

Xorg -configure http://pastebin.com/G7sFuRYN

xorg.0.log : http://pastebin.com/68WQ8Zfv

My requirement does not even worry about screen resolution all i wanted 
is to control my X display like on/off


lspci info : http://pastebin.com/zBVesvmS

Board type : ATOM N2600

request some guidance and troubleshooting ideas,

Regards
Venkat.S


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Re: Installation Jessie en UEFI

2015-04-02 Thread Sylvain L. Sauvage

Le jeudi 2 avril 2015, 00:57:40 Pascal Hambourg a écrit :
 Sylvain L. Sauvage a écrit :
Il faut savoir que les images (dont netinst) sont déjà
  mixtes UEFI + MBR.
 
 UEFI + BIOS.

  Excuse-moi d’avoir utiliser une métonymie simplificatrice…

[…]
De toute façon, UEFI implique GPT.
 
 Pour Windows seulement. Linux et GRUB s'accommodent très bien
 de n'importe quelle combinaison entre GPT|MSDOS et UEFI|BIOS.

  Sûr. Et ça te fait une belle jambe quand, comme c’est le cas 
dans ce fil, tu veux avoir Debian ET Windows…

  Les solutions qui mélangent MBR et UEFI/GPT sont d'affreuses
  bidouilles
 
 De quelles solutions parles-tu ?[…]

  Je parle, toujours dans le cadre de ce fil, d’avoir un Windows 
en UEFI et d’un Linux en MBR sur un disque en GPT, avec un MBR 
de compatibilité, et des gymnastiques inhérentes qui sont 
indéfendables en 2015.

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Re: Dovecot .deb install broken...

2015-04-02 Thread Darac Marjal

On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 11:18:05PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
 Merlin at Dangerous Minds wrote:
  I just tried to install Dovecot for the first time.  It was on a virgin
  Ubuntu/Debian server (Version: 1:2.2.9-1ubuntu5) and the install failed.
 
 Please note that Debian is not Ubuntu and Ubuntu is not Debian.
 
  After a bit of struggling I worked out that the install fails BY DESIGN.
  Spoke about this with a few people and we decided it was best to report this
  issue and request that you redesign the packing so it does not fail.  The
  reason it fails is as follows...
 
 That's great.  Please do report the bug.  Buf please for the sake of
 the kittens please report it to the Ubuntu bug tracker.  Or have the
 decency to at least install Debian and try it there first.  Otherwise
 why report it here?

I've just checked this on a new VM of Debian Stable (7.8.0) and can
confirm that this is a bug with the Ubuntu packaging, not the Debian
packaging. The Debian package doesn't ask if you want to use your own
certificate, it simply generates a self-signed certificate and starts
using that. Presumably, the Ubuntu Devs decided that people might want
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Re: Xorg -configure fails with created screens does not match number of detected devices

2015-04-02 Thread Venkat Ragavan Swaminathan

Posted lsmod info : http://pastebin.com/Y79th67k

On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Floris jkflo...@dds.nl wrote:

 Op Thu, 02 Apr 2015 08:08:48 +0200 schreef venkat 
 venka...@vortexindia.co.in:


  For last one week i am struggling to make my dual display work.
 Earlier it was with 2.632 kernel and my previous mail thread Upgrading
 guidance for Cedarview driver in Debian 6 - 2.6.32 Kernel and various
 forums confirmed me that possibility of achieving with 2.6.32 is ZERO. .

 Now the board has been updated with 3.4.106 kernel with wheezy.But, when
 i try to run Xorg -configure , it exits with an error message.
 created screens does not match number of detected devices

 Xorg -configure http://pastebin.com/G7sFuRYN

 xorg.0.log : http://pastebin.com/68WQ8Zfv

 My requirement does not even worry about screen resolution all i wanted
 is to control my X display like on/off

 lspci info : http://pastebin.com/zBVesvmS

 Board type : ATOM N2600

 request some guidance and troubleshooting ideas,

 Regards
 Venkat.S



 I think you are using the wrong driver. What is the output of
 $ lsmod

 Maybe you have to add
 i915.i915_enable_rc6=1
 to the kernel boot line.

 success,

 floris


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Re: Dovecot .deb install broken...

2015-04-02 Thread Lisi Reisz

On Thursday 02 April 2015 04:02:31 Merlin at Dangerous Minds wrote:
 I recommend you resolve this by NOT starting the service as part of the
 install unless it is an upgrade and the service was already running.

Why are you saying you all the time to the Debian list?  As others have said 
UBUNTU != DEBIAN.  Complain to Ubuntu.  Or have the sense to use Debian.  
Debian doesn't have this problem. 

Ubuntu/Debian doesn't exist.  It is either Ubuntu or it is Debian.

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Re: Installation Jessie en UEFI

2015-04-02 Thread Pascal Hambourg

andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :
 
 J'arrive à booter Debian (en parallèle de W8), UEFI,
 j'ai bien le menu Grub, mais... via appui sur les touches ALT-F9.
 (si je ne fais rien, W8 démarre illico).
 
 À cette étape, j'ai un premier menu (non Grub) :
 UEFI = Windows
 UEFI = Debian.
 UEFI = Fichiers UEFI
 Je choisis Debian et c'est là que le menu Grub apparait.

Quel est l'ordre de priorité affiché par efibootmgr ?

 Mon souhait serait de l'avoir dès le boot, sans la première étape.

Si la modification de l'ordre de priorité des entrées d'amorçage UEFI
est sans effet, je suggèrerais des mesures radicales comme supprimer
l'entrée  de Windows ou modifier le nom du fichier de son chargeur dans
la partition système EFI (/boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi, il
faudra aussi modifier /boot/grub/grub.cfg en conséquence) mais je crains
que Windows ne répare tout ça automatiquement à son prochain lancement.

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Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-02 Thread Reco

 Hi.

On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 20:42:27 +0100
Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:

 But he doesn't need to do it anyway, because Iceweasel is in fact working.

I never underestimate two things:

1) The power of prejudice (it took three long years to convince my
wife that Firefox = Iceweasel, for example).

2) User-agent sniffing on the server-side (their user-agents differ
indeed).


Back then I was young and stupid (former is gone, latter remains to be
seen), I ran firefox from the tarball too. Since then I got lazy :) and
use only stock Iceweasel too. The way I see it - if certain site does
not work in my browser - there're *always* other sites. Same applies to
banking, healthcare, education and whatever else can be picky about
browsers.

Reco


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Re: Sobre squid.....

El Thu, 02 Apr 2015 11:53:12 -0400, Leonardo Serrano Berdeal escribió:

 Hola gente:

(no conviene hacer cross-posting sin avisar...)

 Tengo serios y graves problemas con mi squid 2.7 stable 9, ya no se que
 mas hacer, tengo una ADSL  con una velocidad de 512/256 kb/s y antes
 cuando tenia mis servidores montados en ÂšwindowsÂš (kerio) la
 navegacion me era mas rapida y efectiva que ahora, incluso mis descargas
 llegaban a sus correspondientes 64kb/s, pero ahora que esta en linux no
 paso ni siquiera de los 20 o 30 y es algo que para mi no es logico, un
 amigo me ah ayudado a migrar a debian y hemos puesto squid como proxy,
 pero la navegacion se ha puesto muy muy muy lenta... 

Lo suyo hubiera sido montar un sistema en paralelo con squid+linux antes 
de quitar de un plumazo la solución que estaba montada y funcionando y 
cuando lo hubieras tenido afinado, realizar el cambio.

 tengo puesto incluso Delay pools y aun asi sigue super lenta, entonces 
 cuando me decido y pongo una IP real en mi pc, todo navega super bien,
 super rapido, cuando vuelvo a estar bajo el squid todo vuelve a paso de
 tortuga, quiero agregar que estoy denegando las paginas con squidguard
 por si en algo influye aqui les dejo mi configuracion de los
 delay..

Por aquí te dan algunas pistas de dónde empezar a mirar:

How to analyze whether squid is performing well
http://wiki.squid-cache.org/KnowledgeBase/PerformanceAnalysis
 
 delay_pools 3 delay_class 1 1 delay_class 2 2 delay_class 3 2
 delay_parameters 1 -1/-1 delay_parameters 2 32768/32768  -1/-1
 delay_parameters 3 16384/16384 -1/-1
 
 delay_access 1 allow Ldap_Proxy_Admins delay_access 1 deny all
 delay_access 2 allow Ldap_Rapido delay_access 2 deny all delay_access 3
 allow Ldap_Lento delay_access 3 deny all
 
 la memoria en cache es de 128mb, he dado mil vueltas y nada!
 cambio por aqui cambio por alla y no resuelvo nada! y si comento los
 delay pools pues arriba mas lenta la cosa aun..Mi correo consume,
 pero no tanto, aun esta montado en MDaemon y tiene puesto una
 restriccion de ancho de banda..

(...)

No indicas características del equipo (memoria RAM, CPU, número de 
usuarios a los que da servicio...) ni qué has probado exactamente, más 
allá de dar mil vueltas :-P pero los dos parámetros que se suelen 
modificar/aumentar para ajustar el rendimiento de squid son 
maximum_object_size y cache_mem.

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Re: starting mgetty

2015-04-02 Thread peter

From: Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 22:24:30 -0600
 Fun retro!  :-)

For sure.  What's old is new again.
http://www.inf.ethz.ch/personal/wirth/ProjectOberon/SourcesVerilog/RS232T.v

 What clues are found in the mgetty debug log file?

I won't be at the site again for a few days.  As I recall, nothing 
pertinent in /var/log/mgetty .  As if mgetty wasn't invoked.  

 Try cranking up the debug level.   

Nothing from that.

 Do you have it connected to a modem?

A modem is on ttyS0 and the serial crossover on ttyS1.

 If not then do you have -r to avoid the modem initialization?

Yes, the crossover connection is data only.  Both connections worked 
a few years back.

From: Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 22:27:02 -0600
 I assume Peter is having ppp on one end login to the other end at the
 login: prompt as the ppp user which starts up the pppd as the login
 shell on the other end.  ... Before ethernet that was quite a common 
 way to network two computers on the local site.

Exactly.  In absence of a driver for an Ethernet adapter, serial crossover 
with PPP is quite effective.  After starting mgetty interactively, the 
required files were moved across.  The problem is not an immediate 
concern but would be nice to solve for future use.

Thanks,... Peter E.

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free cloud

2015-04-02 Thread Pol Hallen


Hey all :-)

I looking for a free cloud with almost rsync server-side (or other good 
services to automatically sync data) no http/s transfer.


What's the best online (and free or chip cost) service?

thanks!

Pol


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Re: firefox-37, where to put



On Thursday 02 April 2015 15:35:17 Reco wrote:
  Hi.

 On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 15:06:42 -0400

 Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
  ldd says its not an executable, but then says ldd itself is not,
  while file says its (ldd) a Bourne Again SHell script.
 
  Am I compromized?

 Let's see what all fuss is about.

 First,

 wget -q
 http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/37.0/linux-x86
_64/en-US/firefox-37.0.tar.bz2

 Second,

 wget -q
 ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/37.0/SHA512SUMS

 Third,

 sha512sum firefox-37.0.tar.bz2

 Fourth,

 grep
 665f856cd9f69db2122c6d5bf25305e0ffa60bb56f342be9512cbe81e912c0966a7e10
0ce2d0e30bf978cf94fcf43a2de4c8afa6834ebd46ff7b292f6eec3224 SHA512SUMS

 And hurray, I've apparently got Genuine™ Mozilla Firefox 37.

 Next,

 tar xf firefox-37.0.tar.bz2  cd firefox

 And, finally

 $ file firefox
 firefox: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV),
 dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, BuildID
 [sha1]=0xd9c52e07232a78690be6d991546a12bb3668601d, stripped

 $ file --mime-type firefox
 firefox: application/x-executable
Looks good, I get that:
gene@coyote:~/bin/firefox-37/firefox$ file --mime-type firefox
firefox: application/x-executable

 So, it's definitely a binary. Yet,

 $ ldd ./firefox
 not a dynamic executable

 Why? That's why:

 $ pwd
 /tmp/firefox

See above, and /home is just a directory on / here since the broken 
installer will not do it any other way.

 $ mount | grep /tmp
 tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs
 (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=12234980k)

 Notice *noexec* here.
So the best I can do is:
gene@coyote:~/bin/firefox-37/firefox$ sudo mount|grep noexec
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts 
(rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620,ptmxmode=000)
tmpfs on /run type tmpfs 
(rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,size=819968k,mode=755)
tmpfs on /run/lock type tmpfs 
(rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=5120k)
tmpfs on /run/shm type tmpfs 
(rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=4994340k)
binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc 
(rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)

None of which should apply to /home/gene/bin/firefox-37/firefox.  I have 
about 10 other scripts that, once the /home/gene/bin was added to my 
$PATH, run just as if they were in some /usr/whatever directory.
Humm backout one and two levels and check to see if the directories carry 
enough x's, and they do I think.

From /home/gene/bin
drwxr-xr-x 3 gene gene   4096 Apr  1 22:44 firefox-37
and from /home/gene/bin/firefox-37
drwxr-xr-x 9 gene gene 4096 Mar 26 23:51 firefox
3 x's there too.

So, like T. Edison said, we have learned 2 more ways to make a light bulb 
that don't work.

 You see, ldd actually tries to execute a file (by using special hack
 in ld.so, so that's OK). And of course, if you put an executable at
 no-executable mountpoint, not only you won't be able to run it, ldd
 also ceases to work.

What happens if I add that path to the list in /etc/dld.so.conf.d?
sudo ldconfig -v finds them all but that doesn't help, its still not an 
executable file to a plain ldd command.  And sitting in that directory 
looking at it ./firefoxENTERkey is a
Bash: No such file or directory.

Something is busted here, but I'm bruising my head beating it on the 
wall...

 And yes, ldd is a shell script. A customary way to prepend hacky
 environment variables to executables is using shell wrappers. ldd is
 just one of those.

 Still, if ldd fails you - use objdump:

 $ objdump -x firefox | grep NEED
   NEEDED   libpthread.so.0
   NEEDED   libdl.so.2
   NEEDED   librt.so.1
   NEEDED   libstdc++.so.6
   NEEDED   libm.so.6
   NEEDED   libgcc_s.so.1
   NEEDED   libc.so.6
   NEEDED   ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
   VERNEED  0x004036c8
   VERNEEDNUM   0x0007


 tl;dr version - move your firefox directory to filesystem mounted with
 exec. Problem should solve itself.

 Reco

Now I am bumfuzzled.  The above command works, but if I locate 
ld-linux, I discover the friggin libraries are all i386! :( :(

So thats whats busted, sure as little green apples have a fairly flat 
trajectory.  Its time I go get a couple more drives and install some 
genuine x86-64 (preferable genuine amd64) version of Linux.  This 
particular variation of wheezy is NOT. Unless I can play 
with /etc/apt/sources.list and convince synaptic to fix it?

Or nuke this and go get the 32 bit version, that might be easier.

Thats what I'll do.  If it doesn't fly, well, tigerdirect sells hard 
drives still.

My apologies to everyone who has busted their butts trying to fix this.

Consider this thread closed even if not fixed.  Its in my ballpark now.

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Re: [OT] tamaño diferente al listar por sftp

2015-04-02 Thread petrohs el compa obrero

2015-04-02 14:03 GMT-06:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:
El Thu, 02 Apr 2015 12:05:38 -0600, petrohs el compa obrero escribió:

2015-04-02 8:37 GMT-06:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:
El Wed, 01 Apr 2015 20:19:26 -0600, petrohs el compa obrero escribió:

Tengo un escenario en donde el mismo archivo al ser listado vía sftp
me da diferente tamaño

(...)

¿Has probado con otro archivo para ver si te pasa lo mismo?

¿Me podrían orientar en donde configurar para que me den los tamaños
idénticos al consultar por comodín?

(...)

A mí no me sucede eso (en ambos casos devuelve el mismo tamaño):

(...)

Pero comprueba lo que te dice Juan, ya que los archivos tienen hasta 3
fechas de modificación distintas.

Si, he probado con distintos archivos, todos tienen el mismo
comportamiento.
He realizado los mismos pasos desde otro equipo y ahí coinciden los
tamaños y las fechas. Parece que solo es con ese cliente.

Curioso... ¿de qué cliente (sistema operativo/versión de sftp) se trata?
El servidor es debian wheezy
El cliente que marca mal tamaño es HP-UX B.11.31 U ia64
Los clientes que si marcan correcto el tamaño son HP-UX B.11.23 U
ia64 y un Jessy

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Re: problema systemd y livecd

2015-04-02 Thread Haylem Candelario Bauzá

El jue, 02-04-2015 a las 16:37 +, Camaleón escribió: 
 El Thu, 02 Apr 2015 11:39:41 -0400, Haylem Candelario Bauzá escribió:
 
  El jue, 02-04-2015 a las 14:22 +, Camaleón escribió:
  El Wed, 01 Apr 2015 16:30:26 -0400, Haylem Candelario Bauzá escribió:
  
   Hola, estoy haciendo un livecd de debian 8 ya lo había hecho del 7.
   El problema es que en el 7 yo limpiaba /etc/fstab y /etc/mtab antes
   de hacer la imagen e instalaba live-boot y live-config que tienen
   versiones para systemd y sysv. Pero en debian 8 ni con uno ni con
   otro bootea bien el livecd y el problema radica en el /etc/fstab.
 
 (...)
 
  Hum... ni idea.
  
  No sé con qué herramienta lo estarás haciendo pero yo preguntaría a la
  gente que lleva el proyecto (tienen una lista de correo), seguro que te
  dan alguna pista:
  
  http://live.debian.net/project/contact/
  
  uso una herramienta creada por mí pero el problema real es el siguiente
  para hacer un live se debe limpiar el /etc/fstab porque no tiene sentido
  que exista una definicion de disco alguna puesto que el livecd es
  independiente de la máquina. Ahora, en debian 6/7 yo lo limpiaba y al
  hacer el live todo funcionaba bien pero en debian 8 systemd parece que
  monta el sistema en solo lectura si el /etc/fstab está vacío.
  Para ello existen los live-config scripts que configuran la máquina con
  cada arranque y al parecer en debian 8 están funcionando pero con el
  /etc/fstab vacío no trabaja el livecd y lanza kernel panic que creo que
  sea porque al estar el sistema en solo lectura no pueda escribir los
  temporales, etc.
  
  Lo que necesito es saber si por ejemplo hay que pasarle algo al kernel
  como lo hacia por ejemplo
  
  vmlinux boot=live config 
  
  para que funcione con systemd
  
  si alguien conoce sobre esto...
 
 Pues tienes (o tenías, no sé si lo habrán quitado ya) init=/bin/systemd 
 pero de todas formas, el archivo /etc/fstab debería contener el punto 
 de montaje raíz para la imagen LiveCD ¿no? :-?
 
 Saludos,
 
 -- 
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cuando es un live cd el contenido de todos los programas o sea / está en
un archivo .squashfs comprimido con mksquashfs  y el fstab no necesita
tener el punto de montaje de / especificado a lo mejor en jessie si pero
el lio es cual es el punto de origen a montar.

Ya he logrado que booteara el live cd con el fstab limpio, el problema
era que lo estaba probando con quemu en micro x86_64, le puse solo x86 y
ya, ahora el problema es cuando va a cargar el gdm y cambia el modo
grafico ahi se queda. Cuando reviso los errores de systemd me dice que
no se puede cargar network-manager failed y no se puede cargar el login
failed... pero al menos ya puedo entrar en el sistema modo consola. los
drivers no son porque el sistema origen si los carga perfectamente
(debian 8 jessie) y los xorgs que trae instalado son de la instalacion
por defecto. Ahora tengo que ver como me las arreglo para hechar a a
ndar los graficos gracias de antemano y si soluciono lo posteo



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Re: bons pour un domaine chez gandi

2015-04-02 Thread Philippe Gras



Le 2 avr. 15 à 22:44, Adrien a écrit :


Le 02/04/2015 22:23, Philippe Gras a écrit :

C'est vrai que les conditions mériteraient d'être plus clairement
précisées.


Bah, Mainteneur a amicalement proposé cela et son idée, plutôt  
hippie je

pense, n'est peut-être pas d'avoir une démarche de service clientèle
avec conditions d'utilisation. J'imagine qu'il n'a pas pensé cela  
comme

un service automatique et qu'il faut être raisonnable.

À moins que cette remarque ne fût du second degré ?


Oui et non. Parfois les bureaux d'enregistrement se rattrapent au  
renouvellement.


D'autre part, André avait en tête un projet pas 100% Debian (…donc,  
déviant ;-).


Puisqu'on est dans les cadeaux, j'en ai un HS, et qui va vous faire  
hurler :-D Mais
comme on est demain Trolldi, j'en profite pour squatter ce sujet et  
je me lance :


J'ai 2 encarts adSense à proposer à qui veux les placer sur un site,  
que je suis en
train de remonter sous  un autre domaine. La condition, c'est que la  
personne soit
capable d'éditer de beaux encarts attractifs, et donc connaisse bien  
le procédé du

programme adSense.



Adrien.





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Re: Sobre squid.....

2015-04-02 Thread Leonardo Serrano Berdeal




El 02/04/2015 a las 3:56, Camaleón escribió:

El Thu, 02 Apr 2015 11:53:12 -0400, Leonardo Serrano Berdeal escribió:


Hola gente:

(no conviene hacer cross-posting sin avisar...)


Tengo serios y graves problemas con mi squid 2.7 stable 9, ya no se que
mas hacer, tengo una ADSL  con una velocidad de 512/256 kb/s y antes
cuando tenia mis servidores montados en ÂšwindowsÂš (kerio) la
navegacion me era mas rapida y efectiva que ahora, incluso mis descargas
llegaban a sus correspondientes 64kb/s, pero ahora que esta en linux no
paso ni siquiera de los 20 o 30 y es algo que para mi no es logico, un
amigo me ah ayudado a migrar a debian y hemos puesto squid como proxy,
pero la navegacion se ha puesto muy muy muy lenta...

Lo suyo hubiera sido montar un sistema en paralelo con squid+linux antes
de quitar de un plumazo la solución que estaba montada y funcionando y
cuando lo hubieras tenido afinado, realizar el cambio.


tengo puesto incluso Delay pools y aun asi sigue super lenta, entonces
cuando me decido y pongo una IP real en mi pc, todo navega super bien,
super rapido, cuando vuelvo a estar bajo el squid todo vuelve a paso de
tortuga, quiero agregar que estoy denegando las paginas con squidguard
por si en algo influye aqui les dejo mi configuracion de los
delay..

Por aquí te dan algunas pistas de dónde empezar a mirar:

How to analyze whether squid is performing well
http://wiki.squid-cache.org/KnowledgeBase/PerformanceAnalysis
  

delay_pools 3 delay_class 1 1 delay_class 2 2 delay_class 3 2
delay_parameters 1 -1/-1 delay_parameters 2 32768/32768  -1/-1
delay_parameters 3 16384/16384 -1/-1

delay_access 1 allow Ldap_Proxy_Admins delay_access 1 deny all
delay_access 2 allow Ldap_Rapido delay_access 2 deny all delay_access 3
allow Ldap_Lento delay_access 3 deny all

la memoria en cache es de 128mb, he dado mil vueltas y nada!
cambio por aqui cambio por alla y no resuelvo nada! y si comento los
delay pools pues arriba mas lenta la cosa aun..Mi correo consume,
pero no tanto, aun esta montado en MDaemon y tiene puesto una
restriccion de ancho de banda..

(...)

No indicas características del equipo (memoria RAM, CPU, número de
usuarios a los que da servicio...) ni qué has probado exactamente, más
allá de dar mil vueltas :-P pero los dos parámetros que se suelen
modificar/aumentar para ajustar el rendimiento de squid son
maximum_object_size y cache_mem.

Saludos,

Perdon por el cross-posting, no volvera a ocurrir... Leeré la 
referencia que me dan y el parametro maximum_object_size jamas lo he 
usado. y el cache_mem esta en 128mb.. Gracias por la atencion y 
la ayuda que me brindan



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Re: firefox-37, where to put

On Thursday 02 April 2015 17:35:29 Gene Heskett wrote:
 On Thursday 02 April 2015 15:35:17 Reco wrote:
[...]
 Or nuke this and go get the 32 bit version, that might be easier.

 Thats what I'll do.  If it doesn't fly, well, tigerdirect sells hard
 drives still.

And FWIW, it works as advertised.

And again, my apologies to all.

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Re: [OT] tamaño diferente al listar por sftp

El Thu, 02 Apr 2015 12:05:38 -0600, petrohs el compa obrero escribió:

 2015-04-02 8:37 GMT-06:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:
 El Wed, 01 Apr 2015 20:19:26 -0600, petrohs el compa obrero escribió:

 Tengo un escenario en donde el mismo archivo al ser listado vía sftp
 me da diferente tamaño

(...)

 ¿Has probado con otro archivo para ver si te pasa lo mismo?

 ¿Me podrían orientar en donde configurar para que me den los tamaños
 idénticos al consultar por comodín?

 (...)

 A mí no me sucede eso (en ambos casos devuelve el mismo tamaño):

(...)

 Pero comprueba lo que te dice Juan, ya que los archivos tienen hasta 3
 fechas de modificación distintas.

 Si, he probado con distintos archivos, todos tienen el mismo
 comportamiento.
 He realizado los mismos pasos desde otro equipo y ahí coinciden los
 tamaños y las fechas. Parece que solo es con ese cliente.

Curioso... ¿de qué cliente (sistema operativo/versión de sftp) se trata? 

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Re: bons pour un domaine chez gandi

2015-04-02 Thread Philippe Gras



Le 2 avr. 15 à 22:17, André a écrit :


On Thursday 02 April 2015 20:40:23 Mainteneur wrote:

Avec le jeu pour les 15 ans de gandi j'ai eu plein de bons pour des
domaines gratuits en fr, me, xyz...
Je ne vais pas les utiliser et me propose de les donner à qui en aura
besoin dans le cadre d'un projet autour de debian.


Sympa cette proposition !

Et pour un projet Linux, logiciels Libres, mais pas 100% Debian ?


C'est vrai que les conditions mériteraient d'être plus clairement  
précisées.


André

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Re: bons pour un domaine chez gandi

2015-04-02 Thread Adrien

Le 02/04/2015 22:23, Philippe Gras a écrit :
 C'est vrai que les conditions mériteraient d'être plus clairement
 précisées.

Bah, Mainteneur a amicalement proposé cela et son idée, plutôt hippie je
pense, n'est peut-être pas d'avoir une démarche de service clientèle
avec conditions d'utilisation. J'imagine qu'il n'a pas pensé cela comme
un service automatique et qu'il faut être raisonnable.

À moins que cette remarque ne fût du second degré ?

Adrien.





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Re: OpenVPN doesn't restart after sleep

2015-04-02 Thread Bob Proulx

Tony van der Hoff wrote:
 I have OpenVPN on my KDE Wheezy laptop configured to connect to my
 wheezy VPS. When booting from scratch this works fine.

Works for me too.  Note that I am not using KDE however.  Doesn't seem
like that should matter.  Unless you are using some KDE specific
network something.

 However, if I close the lid, thus putting the lappie into sleep mode,
 then re-open it, OpenVPN appears to start, but I'm unable to access any
 address outside of my local network, until I run sudo service openvpn
 restart.

You say address which sounds promising that you are actually talking
about addresses explicitly.  But most people confuse names and
addresses and mix them up in conversation.

Do you have a caching nameserver installed?  bind9 or other?  Does
restarting just bind9 also solve the problem?

  # service bind9 restart

One of the more fragile things I have found with VPNs is the DNS
server caches responses.  It caches negative responses, failures, for
a short time too.  Therefore it is sometimes the case that a name
can't be resolved to an address through the nameserver until it has
timed out even though the underlying networking is operating
correctly.  Restarting the nameserver causes all of the temporary
caching such as negative responses to be flushed and they will then be
read through from upstream again.

When using a vpn you are also very likely using private resources
behind that vpn.  Probably also using DNS names from that private
resource.  Yes?  In which case special configuration must also be
added to ensure that your nameserver is looking up names from the
private vpn space and not from the public space.  The coffee shop,
airport, public wifi won't know about the private names.  Does this
apply to your configuration?  If so then how are you handling this in
your configuration?  There is currently no standard method in the
Debian openvpn package and you will need to write and install your own
solution to it.

To diagnose the difference look specifically for each individual
component of the issue.  Perform a ping by address.  Perform a name
lookup by name.

  $ host example.com
  example.com has address 93.184.216.34
  example.com has IPv6 address 2606:2800:220:1:248:1893:25c8:1946

  $ ping -c3 93.184.216.34
  PING 93.184.216.34 (93.184.216.34) 56(84) bytes of data.
  64 bytes from 93.184.216.34: icmp_seq=1 ttl=54 time=56.8 ms
  64 bytes from 93.184.216.34: icmp_seq=2 ttl=54 time=58.1 ms
  64 bytes from 93.184.216.34: icmp_seq=3 ttl=54 time=57.2 ms

  --- 93.184.216.34 ping statistics ---
  3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2003ms
  rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 56.862/57.407/58.120/0.527 ms

If a ping to the address succeeds and the DNS lookup fails then you
know the networking is okay.  I suspect this to be the problem.

The reason that restarting openvpn causes things to work is that
restarting openvpn also restarts installed nameservers too.  (Or was
that just a local hack I did on my laptop?  I don't remember now.)

 Google doesn't make any useful suggestions, so does anyone here know
 how to fix this?

Another useful debugging hint is to run this in a text window and
watch the display change.

  watch ip route show

Or the shortest save the keystrokes typing abbreviation.

  watch ip r

When the vpn is offline there won't be any routes for the tunnel
devices.  After the vpn is established it will register routes
corresponding to the tunnels.  Seeing them be dropped and established
is useful for me to see when the tunnels become usable.

Another useful debugging hint is to run this in a window and watch the
log file.

  tail -F /var/log/syslog

That will display the actions of openvpn daemon as they are logged to
the system log file.  Watching that will display what is happening as
it happens.

Bob


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Re: firefox-37, where to put

On Thursday 02 April 2015 13:48:36 Brian wrote:
 On Thu 02 Apr 2015 at 13:06:05 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
  This is nucking futs:

 Are you as adept at malapropisms as spoonerisms?

Occasionally. Trying not to offend the ladies here too much etc.

 Off-topic, I know. But it might have some bearing on your ability to
 drive iceweasel competently.

Actually finding a keyboard that A:fits the space, and B: has keys big 
enough my fat fingers might stand a chance of hitting the right ones, 
would help.  I love the white version of the logitech k-360, but it does 
enhance the number of typos if my finger is 1/8 off center on the key, 
it gets the adjacent key too.  My hands cannot span an octave on the 
piano keyboard, fingers too short. but I still have to buy XXXL gloves 
or I can't get the hand thru the wrist of the glove.  Then I have 1 or 
more inches of empty fingers when they are pulled on.  Keyboard of 
course means my hands bounce all over it in order to reach the farther 
keys.  So obviously I proofread the heck out of it BEFORE I hit 
return/Enter.

That can be an exasperating problem, but its also my problem. ;-)

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-02 Thread Reco

 Hi.

On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 15:06:42 -0400
Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 ldd says its not an executable, but then says ldd itself is not, 
 while file says its (ldd) a Bourne Again SHell script.
 
 Am I compromized?

Let's see what all fuss is about.

First, 

wget -q
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/37.0/linux-x86_64/en-US/firefox-37.0.tar.bz2

Second,

wget -q
ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/37.0/SHA512SUMS

Third,

sha512sum firefox-37.0.tar.bz2

Fourth,

grep
665f856cd9f69db2122c6d5bf25305e0ffa60bb56f342be9512cbe81e912c0966a7e100ce2d0e30bf978cf94fcf43a2de4c8afa6834ebd46ff7b292f6eec3224
SHA512SUMS

And hurray, I've apparently got Genuine™ Mozilla Firefox 37.

Next,

tar xf firefox-37.0.tar.bz2  cd firefox

And, finally

$ file firefox
firefox: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV),
dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, BuildID
[sha1]=0xd9c52e07232a78690be6d991546a12bb3668601d, stripped

$ file --mime-type firefox 
firefox: application/x-executable

So, it's definitely a binary. Yet,

$ ldd ./firefox
not a dynamic executable

Why? That's why:

$ pwd
/tmp/firefox
$ mount | grep /tmp
tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs
(rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=12234980k)

Notice *noexec* here.


You see, ldd actually tries to execute a file (by using special hack in
ld.so, so that's OK). And of course, if you put an executable at
no-executable mountpoint, not only you won't be able to run it, ldd
also ceases to work.

And yes, ldd is a shell script. A customary way to prepend hacky
environment variables to executables is using shell wrappers. ldd is
just one of those.

Still, if ldd fails you - use objdump:

$ objdump -x firefox | grep NEED
  NEEDED   libpthread.so.0
  NEEDED   libdl.so.2
  NEEDED   librt.so.1
  NEEDED   libstdc++.so.6
  NEEDED   libm.so.6
  NEEDED   libgcc_s.so.1
  NEEDED   libc.so.6
  NEEDED   ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
  VERNEED  0x004036c8
  VERNEEDNUM   0x0007


tl;dr version - move your firefox directory to filesystem mounted with
exec. Problem should solve itself.

Reco


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Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-02 Thread Lisi Reisz

On Thursday 02 April 2015 20:25:16 Gene Heskett wrote:
 Occasionally. Trying not to offend the ladies here too much etc.

We are as capable of swapping letters over as the men.  It doesn't achieve 
much.

Lisi


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Re: bons pour un domaine chez gandi

2015-04-02 Thread Philippe Gras



Le 2 avr. 15 à 20:40, Mainteneur a écrit :


Bonsoir la liste,

Avec le jeu pour les 15 ans de gandi j'ai eu plein de bons pour des  
domaines

gratuits en fr, me, xyz...
Je ne vais pas les utiliser et me propose de les donner à qui en  
aura besoin

dans le cadre d'un projet autour de debian.


C'est sympa :-)


bien à vous

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Re: Monitor is flickering when changes on the screen (i.e. cursor)

2015-04-02 Thread Flo

 
 Are there warning (WW) or error (EE) messages in
 journalctl -u gdm.service
 when the screen is flickering?
 

No warnings or anything at the journal. I am using lightdm, so my
command was 'journalctl -u lightdm.service'.

Do  you think to better use gdm instead of lightdm? My understanding is
that the problem lies a bit deeper more at the kernel or drivers. But of
course I could try a different display manager if this could make a
difference.

Regards,
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Re: Monitor is flickering when changes on the screen (i.e. cursor)

2015-04-02 Thread Flo


 PS: I also tried different resolutions. No effect!
 
 Different refresh rate?  Is that set the same now as before?  
 

Yes, I tried also different refresh rates (if the pull down menu gave me
choices).

Flo.



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[OT] Tomcat + 2 app

2015-04-02 Thread Marcos Germán Capelari

Hola,

Quisiera consultarles si alguien puede darme una mano con el siguiente
problema.
Tengo un server debian 7 con un tomcat 6 instalado. Hice un deploy de 2 app
desde Application Manager, pero al momento de ejecutarlas me da error 404.
El problema radica en que el Application Manager ejecuta lo siguiente:

http://10.0.0.2:8080/historial/
http://10.0.0.2:8080/conectaviz/

y el acceso a la app esta en:

http://10.0.0.2:8080/historial/servlet/inicio
http://10.0.0.2:8080/conectabiz/servlet/winicio

Cuando pongo la direcciones correctas en el navegador accedo bien a las
aplicaciones.

Alguien sabe como se hace esa conexión o que se necesita configurar para
poder apuntar a esa dirección?

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Re: bons pour un domaine chez gandi

2015-04-02 Thread André

On Thursday 02 April 2015 20:40:23 Mainteneur wrote:
 Avec le jeu pour les 15 ans de gandi j'ai eu plein de bons pour des
 domaines gratuits en fr, me, xyz...
 Je ne vais pas les utiliser et me propose de les donner à qui en aura
 besoin dans le cadre d'un projet autour de debian.

Sympa cette proposition !

Et pour un projet Linux, logiciels Libres, mais pas 100% Debian ?

André

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Re: firefox-37, where to put



On Thursday 02 April 2015 15:35:17 Lisi Reisz wrote:
 On Thursday 02 April 2015 20:25:16 Gene Heskett wrote:
  Occasionally. Trying not to offend the ladies here too much etc.

 We are as capable of swapping letters over as the men.  It doesn't
 achieve much.

 Lisi

Thats a lesson I shoulda learned 80 years ago.  My apologies my dear.

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Re: Carte WIFI mt7630e

2015-04-02 Thread Christophe


Bonsoir,

Le 02/04/2015 13:47, jber...@free.fr a écrit :

Bonjour à tous,

Pour info.
Un développeur polonais, Jakub Kicinski,  a enfin mis au point le driver
linux de la carte Wifi/BT mt7630e pour laquelle Mediatek fournissait
depuis un an un driver linux qui ne marchait pas.

https://github.com/kuba-moo/mt7630e


L'info est bonne, mais la question que je me pose surtout :

Dans quelles conditions doit on utiliser ce driver ?

Carte/Chipset intégré dans un PC vendu dans le commerce ?
ou carte additionnelle ?

Pour ma part, cette marque est inconnue au bataillon ...
Un peu plus d'infos ?

@+
Christophe.




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Re: free cloud

2015-04-02 Thread Bernd Naumann

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On 04/03/2015 12:50 AM, Celejar wrote:
 On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 22:17:02 +0200 Pol Hallen
 de...@fuckaround.org wrote:
 
 Hey all :-)
 
 I looking for a free cloud with almost rsync server-side (or
 other good services to automatically sync data) no http/s
 transfer.
 
 What's the best online (and free or chip cost) service?
 
 I'm interested in this too. I have found that there are some cloud 
 providers with free accounts that offer WebDAV access (Yandex,
 Box), which means that you can mount your storage using davfs2 and
 then use normal filesystem tools to sync, although IIUC this won't
 allow hard (or symbolic?) links.
 
 thanks!
 
 Pol
 
 Celejar
 
 

If the service is 'free' you have to ask yourself why is this so.
I would not recommend such services. Yep, you can transfer only
encrypted data, but you have no quarantine that this service will be
provided with any service level or reliability.

There are several cheap VirtualPrivateServer provider out there, so
just take a look and choose one, which will fit your needs, but I
think it is a waste of time to look for a free service.

But the downside on all these 'cheep vps provider' I'm aware off, is
that they don't offer any useful amount of storage space. So maybe
find a friend or too, and invest in a monthly rent of a
bare-metal-server ;)

Greetings,
Bernd

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Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-02 Thread Lisi Reisz

On Thursday 02 April 2015 22:35:29 Gene Heskett wrote:
  /home is just a directory on / here since the broken
 installer will not do it any other way.

I know that it has been said before, but there may be people new to the list 
reading this.  I used the same broken installer, and my /home is separate 
from /.

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Re: firefox-37, where to put



On Thursday 02 April 2015 19:20:50 Lisi Reisz wrote:
 On Thursday 02 April 2015 22:35:29 Gene Heskett wrote:
   /home is just a directory on / here since the broken
  installer will not do it any other way.

 I know that it has been said before, but there may be people new to
 the list reading this.  I used the same broken installer, and my
 /home is separate from /.

 Lisi

I appreciate that you have done that Lisi, but this hybrid.iso from 
linuxcnc.org, downloadable from a link right one on the front page, and 
using the wheezy repos for updates, simply cannot be beaten into 
submission to do that.

Regardless of the mechinations I have tried, it plain and simply loops 
back to the partition drive screen if you do not just let it do what it 
wants to do, which is two real partitions, one for /, and one for swap 
at 2x the memory it finds in the machine. ANYTHING else you try to do 
and it loops back to restart the drive partitioning again. I even tried 
to prepartition the drive with other tools, but none of those settups 
were recognized by the installers partitioner.  This hybrid install iso, 
can also function when written to a usb key, but this now elderly Asus 
M2N-SLI Deluxe mobo's latest #1701 bios cannot be booted from usb.

I just ordered 2 more 2Gb seagate drives from tigerdirect, and I will, 
when they arrive, see about a real 64 bit wheezy install.

If the 64 bit wheezy install will run LinuxCNC in sim mode, I'll be a 
happy camper, otherwise I will see what kernel version the latest 
xenomai patches need, build that and install it on the second drive 
alongside the wheezy kernel.  Somewhere, there has to be an everything 
just Works(TM) setup.

The rtai patches to this installs kernel do the real time, microsecond 
critical stuff in kernel space, the xenomai patch kit moves it to user 
space but isn't quite as effective at the realtime microsecond critical 
stuff, so if I ever have to run machinery with it, I'll need to buy a 
$90 5i25 interface card from Mesaweb, which offloads the realtime stuff 
to a custom programmed asic running at 50 mhz of some sort I haven't 
memorized. But in the real world, the chances of ever using this huge 
tower to drive one of those machine is somewhere between .1% of slim 
and none.  More than likely, if I buy a bigger machine, (and I'll have 
to be in better shape physically too because they'll range north of half 
a ton if its quality stuff) it will be run by machinekit installed on 
a BeagleBone Black, altho the breakout board costs $25 more than the 
Black.

The plans of mice  men Lisi. ;-)  In the meantime I have some blanket 
chests to make 3 more of with the machinery I have now, and deliver them 
to various places in Nebraska and Kansas, probably in 2 separate trips 
as my West Virginia Cadillac, aka a '99 GMC 3 door short box pickup 
won't hold more than 2 with padding.  That will add a bit over 6k miles 
to the GMC, but its engine was fresh 5k back and its running well.

I can't fall over yet, my bucket list is pages long. ;-)

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: A question about deleting a big file structure from a big disk in Jessie: Why does this work? I'm really worried.

2015-04-02 Thread David Christensen


On 04/02/2015 04:21 PM, Paul E Condon wrote:

For several years I have been making daily backups of my four Debian
computers using Rsync and a small script of my own devising. The data
has been accumulating on an external USB drive in a partition with the
label, gfx5. Some time ago I decided to a make a copy of these data,
so I would have more than one copy. I had to use Rsync to do this
because it I were to use cp the copies of files labeled by different
dates and hard-link together on gfx5 would exceed the capacity on the
target disk (which was/is labeled gfx2). This is a simple one line
command to Rsync.  When I tried, the job would always crash well
before completion.


You're using a Testing operating system distribution (Jessie), not a 
Stable operating system distribution (Wheezy):


1.  If you want to help debug Jessie, then you should create a script 
that demonstrates the undesired behavior on a fresh install of a 
specific snapshot of Jessie and post your script and console session. 
(E.g. the script should not depend upon your data, systems, or networks; 
it should produce similar results on equivalent machines.)


2.  If you want reliable operations, then you should use Wheezy.  If 
that doesn't do what you want, post your console session.



In either case, you will want to check the source and destination file 
systems before invoking 'rsync':


$ man fsck


HTH,

David


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Re: A question about deleting a big file structure from a big disk in Jessie: Why does this work? I'm really worried.

2015-04-02 Thread David Wright

Quoting Paul E Condon (pecon...@mesanetworks.net):
[...]
 Some time ago I decided to a make a copy of these data,
 so I would have more than one copy.
[...]
Is the copying between a USB disk and an internal, or between two
partitions on the same USB disk, or between two USB disks? (Ranked in
decreasing reliability in my own experience.)

 When I tried, the job would always crash well before completion.

What are the symptoms of a crash? (Hang, segfault, write-failure
as readonly, etc)

[...]
 But in both cases the
 deletion failed because 'gfx2' has been remounted read-only, which
 makes it impossible to update the target directory tree.

Do you watch /var/log/kern.log which this is going on. I find that
quite useful. For example, messages like
usb 1-8: reset high-speed USB device number 5 using ehci_hcd
are accompanied by a pause of anything up to a minute in file
transfer. I get these quite frequently if I do massive copies between
two USB disks, so I now stage such copies through the internal disk.

I'm not so unlucky as Bob appears to be (he says, touching wood), but
I do get occasional I/O errors on USB transfers, which can make the
disk readonly, but sometimes make it disappear altogether (ie it
gets unmounted, not remounted).

 I have not tried it, but from my investigation I'm sure that a
 massive delete of some obsolete file structure from the HD that
 was /dev/sda1 during Debian install would trigger a remount-ro,
 which surely would lead to a system crash in short order.

You get streams of error messages (like when the disk fills up)
but it shouldn't actually crash.

(OTOH when you get a kernel error, there can be circumstances where
the system will panic and *not* sync/write to the disk because to do
so could cause corruption.)

[...]
 I'm worried about what I found. I want to interest someone who has far
 more knowledge about how the kernel actually works internally to look
 into this. I done other experiments more complicated to report, I can't
 find anything comforting about this situation. If you think it's OK,
 you probably don't understand, IMHO.

My prejudices, based on no more than observations of my system, make me,
like Bob, suspect the interface rather than the kernel. My wife,
running windows, sees similar external symptoms (pauses, errors),
though neither of us would know how to observe them in like manner to
linux.

Just in passing, if clamav wakes up and spots the USB drive, file
transfers can stop for 10 or 15 minutes; the USB disk heads will still
be very active. I keep an xterm running top so I can spot that (and
other cpu-guzzlers like xulrunner).

Oh, and to David C, this happens irrespective of wheezy or jessie
(for me).

Cheers,
David.


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Re: Xorg -configure fails with created screens does not match number of detected devices

2015-04-02 Thread deloptes

venkat wrote:

 [ 21.967] (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.

I had same message recently when I moved wheezy (the hard disk with the
system) to a new hardware. It turned out the Xorg server version did have
poor support for the new hardware in wheezy, so either compile newer
version with a bunch of additional software or upgrade to jessie. The last
option I took, because jessie seems to be mostly ready to go into stable
and it worked for my graphic card pretty well.

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Re: [solved securely now??] What is the correct way to set encrypted swap with systemd?

On 20150402_1142-0500, David Wright wrote:
 Quoting Paul E Condon (pecon...@mesanetworks.net):
  I read the prior discussion as taking for granted the idea that one
  must have only one method of identifying individual partitions,
      ^^^ ^^
 If you're referring to my post (which you quoted), then the opposite
 is true. The opening paragraphs argues against LABELs as a panacea,
 but later ones (and another posting in this thread) reveal that I use
 them routinely in what are the right circumstances for me.
 
 (With top-posting, it can be difficult to tell precisely what you're
 commenting on.) It applied to the whole conversation. At least that
 was my intent.
  and
  that that method must be the latest to have arrived on the scene. For
  example, if everyone else in the world accepts your idea that
  LABEL=sda1 on the partition that was /dev/sda1 when Debian was
  installed is something that should *not*be*done*, *then* I can be very
  confident that my disk will not cause problems *because*of*an*identity*
  *clash*.
 
 That may be true for you personally, but your idea scales up to just
 one computer. I have several. So do many others. Any time your LABEL is
 correct, it's redundant, and when it's made incorrect by changing
 circumstances, it's confusing.
 
  The whole scenario is false anyway. Who would let a disk
  arrives at his facility in the hands of a stranger be *mount*ed
  without first putting it in a USB disk carrier and using some system
  tools to take a look at what is recorded on it?  And why would I offer
  my disk to anyone without *telling* them how it is labeled?
 
 Facility? Stranger? In my post I suggested that any one person, who
 had taken your advice and LABELled their root partition as sda1,
 might take said drive out of that computer and put it into another one
 of theirs, whereupon /dev/disk/by-label will have an entry like this:
 
 /dev/disk/by-label:
 total 0
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Mar 31 13:44 sda1 - ../../sdb1
 
 Confusing, unnecessary, avoidable.

  To me, very informative of a situation that badly needs fixing by
  other means.


  I see the argument here, mine as well as yours, as a clash of wildly
  imaginative false scenarios. 
 
 Summarising: names/labels are important. Advising sda1 as a LABEL is
 not a good idea.
 
 If you want a reference, take a look at RFC1178, page 2:
 Don't overload other terms already in common use.

Like, for instance, 'window' ? When was the first use of the word,
window, in English according to the OED? How many years was it in
common use as referring to a common architectural feature of human
habitations? And earlier than OED, there is Dr. Johnson's Dictionary
of the English Language, which provides a definition of 'window' that
was current in 1755, over two centuries before the UNIX epoch.

And then there's Humpty Dumpty's Rule for the definition of any word
to consider. ;-)

Cheers, and
Peace,
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Re: Debian and FQDN lookup

2015-04-02 Thread Bob Proulx

Alex Mestiashvili wrote:
  and as far as I see it simply asks the DNS about the hostname using 
  getaddrinfo.
  
  But, with stock nsswitch.conf, it issues uname(2) syscall first, goes
  to /etc/hosts second, and if it encounters FQDN hostname - it all ends
  here.
  If /etc/hosts contain only bare hostname - it'd return a bare hostname.

But /etc/hosts shouldn't have a bare hostname, right?  It should
always have a canonical name first followed by aliases second.

  man hosts

   This  manual  page  describes  the format of the /etc/hosts file.  This
   file is a simple text file that associates IP addresses with hostnames,
   one line per IP address.  For each host a single line should be present
   with the following information:

  IP_address canonical_hostname [aliases...]

The debian-installer will set things up right with an entry such as
this one.

  127.0.1.1 foo.example.com foo

Some people will be running software such as CAD/EDA software that
passes IP addresses around interchangeably with hostnames.  That
software is fundamentally broken.  But for those using it the only
possibility is to work around it.  The old classical Unix config
would have had a single public IP address there instead.

  93.184.216.34 foo.example.com foo

That works but requires always on networking.  It isn't suitable for
laptops or other mobile devices.  But it is fine for an always on
server host.

  Only if /etc/hosts does not contain a hostname - a DNS search will be
  performed (or other resolving method, all according to nsswitch.conf).

The entire 'hostname --fqdn' hack is really a nasty hack that I wish
had never entered the GNU/Linux community.  You won't find it on a
classic Unix system.  Actually I have debugged many installation
scripts that call 'hostname -f' and instead set the hostname to -f.
On legacy Unix systems there are no options.  Whatever is in the first
argument is what is set as the hostname.

But that isn't the worst of it.  The 'hostname -f' model thinks that a
host has one IP address and that one IP address maps to one host.  It
looks up the name and finds the first IP address.  It looks up that IP
address to find the name associated with it.  Basically it assigns the
name found through DNS lookups.  It expects a one-to-one mapping of
exactly one IP address and the entire loop must match.

That thinking is so 1985!  It is now 30 years later in 2015 and that
relationship just isn't true in the general case.  Lots of servers
have multiple IP addresses.  A server might be serving multiple
domains.  What is the canonical domain in that case?  I sarcastically
say that 'hostname -f' will always pick the wrong one for you if you
have several to choose from.  That is one of the reasons for the great
compromise of using '127.0.1.1 fqdn' in the /etc/hosts file.

The /etc/nsswitch.conf file configures name lookups.  The usual line
for the hosts file lookup mapping is:

  hosts:  files dns

That looks in /etc/hosts first and dns second.  (Some sites may have
NIS/yp or LDAP or other configured there.)  Since files is first it
has priority for /etc/hosts entries before DNS entries.  That allows
the strategy mapping through 127.0.1.1 to work.

Here is some discussion on the various issues.

  https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2005/06/msg00639.html

  https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/07/msg00809.html

  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netcfg/+bug/234543

There is also 'libnss-myhostname' which I mention for completeness.
However I find it causes me more bugs and problems than not using it
and simply using the above strategies.  Therefore I recommend NOT
using the libnss-myhostname package.

 Yes, agree, though you will not see any of steps above if nscd is
 running as it was in my case.

You menion nscd and that trips another pet peeve.  The nscd is another
Evil bad model that never understood the /etc/passwd file structure
and explicit order.  The nscd hashes the contents and destroys the
order.  Therefore nscd is fundamentally broken whenever there are
multiple names mapped to the same uid number.  That is a very common
configuration in many environments.  I always purge nscd whenever I
want correct behavior.  It doesn't improve performance significantly.
Correct is better than fast anyway.  And if account lookups are slow
then it is better to add more NIS/yp or LDAP slaves and improve your
performance there anyway.

Bob


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A question about deleting a big file structure from a big disk in Jessie: Why does this work? I'm really worried.

For several years I have been making daily backups of my four Debian
computers using Rsync and a small script of my own devising. The data
has been accumulating on an external USB drive in a partition with the
label, gfx5. Some time ago I decided to a make a copy of these data,
so I would have more than one copy. I had to use Rsync to do this
because it I were to use cp the copies of files labeled by different
dates and hard-link together on gfx5 would exceed the capacity on the
target disk (which was/is labeled gfx2). This is a simple one line
command to Rsync.  When I tried, the job would always crash well
before completion. Sometimes, a simple repeat invocation would make
further progress, sometimes not. I became curious. As I tried
different variations of how to observe the progress of transfer as it
happened, I acquired copies of failed transfers, and then discovered
that I could not reliably delete a failed copy by using the obvious,
'rm -rfv ... '
I discovered that the command 'find -depth -print -delete'
sometimes worked when 'rm -rfv ...' did not. But in both cases the
deletion failed because 'gfx2' has been remounted read-only, which
makes it impossible to update the target directory tree.

I have not tried it, but from my investigation I'm sure that a
massive delete of some obsolete file structure from the HD that
was /dev/sda1 during Debian install would trigger a remount-ro,
which surely would lead to a system crash in short order.

I investigated further. These investigations were done on a computer
which I call 'gq'. I set up experiments on 'gq' by using ssh to issue
commands in 'gq' from my main desktop computer, 'big'. I set up several
ssh windows into 'gq'. My first discovery was that after a crash while
attempting to delete with 'find -depth -print -delete ', there was a
long delay in remounting 'gfx2' while the mount command emptied the
journal (ext4) on 'gfx2'.

Next I tried 'find -depth -print -delete ', with some extra windows into
'gq' in which I issued the command 'sync'. The return from 'sync' was
delayed, sometimes as much as a minute, and if I didn't issue 'sync'
commands frequently enough, there was never a return from 'sync', just
the crash of the 'find' command. So frequent sync commands delayed the
crash.

I found two other ways to delay the crash:
1) using nice as in: ' nice -n 19 find -depth -print -delete'
   (this, I think, slows down the main running job in relation to the
   running of the kernel.)
2) using cntrl-Z to pause the 'find' job for a while
   (which I think also allows the kernel to catch up with the journal)
   I could also monitor the progress of the journal run, by issuing a
   sync command in a separate ssh window. 

I'm worried about what I found. I want to interest someone who has far
more knowledge about how the kernel actually works internally to look
into this. I done other experiments more complicated to report, I can't
find anything comforting about this situation. If you think it's OK,
you probably don't understand, IMHO.

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Re: free cloud

2015-04-02 Thread Celejar

On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 22:17:02 +0200
Pol Hallen de...@fuckaround.org wrote:

 Hey all :-)
 
 I looking for a free cloud with almost rsync server-side (or other good 
 services to automatically sync data) no http/s transfer.
 
 What's the best online (and free or chip cost) service?

I'm interested in this too. I have found that there are some cloud
providers with free accounts that offer WebDAV access (Yandex, Box),
which means that you can mount your storage using davfs2 and then use
normal filesystem tools to sync, although IIUC this won't allow hard (or
symbolic?) links.

 thanks!
 
 Pol

Celejar


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Re: free cloud

2015-04-02 Thread deloptes

Bernd Naumann wrote:

 If the service is 'free' you have to ask yourself why is this so.
 I would not recommend such services. Yep, you can transfer only
 encrypted data, but you have no quarantine that this service will be
 provided with any service level or reliability.
 
 There are several cheap VirtualPrivateServer provider out there, so
 just take a look and choose one, which will fit your needs, but I
 think it is a waste of time to look for a free service.
 
 But the downside on all these 'cheep vps provider' I'm aware off, is
 that they don't offer any useful amount of storage space. So maybe
 find a friend or too, and invest in a monthly rent of a
 bare-metal-server ;)

I agree - everything comes at a price. There are multiple issues like NSA,
privacy, security and availability of mails and other data, but everything
has its cost.

I am also interested in similar cloud solution, but even if you invest in a
machine, where would you run it and for a cloud solution you need at least
two in two different locations.

May I ask: What would you pay per year for a solution that solves all those
issues? Just curious - if I offer you a membership for 15 or 20US$/y would
it be acceptable?

Because the question is about free cloud I do not understand if he means
free from NSA or free licensed :) 

He also says free or cheep so what is cheep? I think if privacy and
availability is important, 30 US$/y for 5G basic package is acceptable.
What do you think?

regards

regards


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Re: A question about deleting a big file structure from a big disk in Jessie: Why does this work? I'm really worried.

2015-04-02 Thread Bob Proulx

Paul E Condon wrote:
 For several years I have been making daily backups of my four Debian
 computers using Rsync and a small script of my own devising. The data
 has been accumulating on an external USB drive in a partition with the
...
 I'm worried about what I found. I want to interest someone who has far
 more knowledge about how the kernel actually works internally to look
 into this. I done other experiments more complicated to report, I can't
 find anything comforting about this situation. If you think it's OK,
 you probably don't understand, IMHO.

I often have problems with USB mounted file systems.  I believe the
cheap nature of the USB hardware all around to be the major
contributor.  I do use USB for a big floppy all of the time.  But
whenever I keep a USB disk mounted for a long time it has always
failed after a while.  A month.  Six months.  I find the USB file
system subsystem unreliable.  I would never trust it for critical data
such as backups.  I think you are seeing the same unreliable mounted
USB disk problems that I have seen for a long time.

If you remove the disk from your USB container and mount it directly
with its native SATA (or IDE) connector then you will find that it is
as reliable as the rest of the native storage.  I blame the cheap USB
controller electronics.  Although perhaps the kernel driver is also to
blame in there too.

[On the converse I find USB network adapters and USB sound cards to
have been rock solid.  Meaning that while I avoid USB disks I actively
use USB networking on several machines to add additional NICs.  I am
planning another site using additional USB NICs.  It is probably
hardware dependent but they have been working great for me regardless
of seeing the opposite for disks.  And I have three sites using USB
sound cards very robustly.  Since I disparaged USB disk I felt I
needed to clarify that it was only disk and not other USB.]

 I found two other ways to delay the crash:
 1) using nice as in: ' nice -n 19 find -depth -print -delete'
(this, I think, slows down the main running job in relation to the
running of the kernel.)

Read the man page for ionice.  You might consider using it instead
of nice.  Nice works with cpu usage.  But ionice works with I/O usage
and is directly what you are fighting.  You might try:

  ionice -c 3 find -depth -print -delete

If I am deleting an entire file system I will usually simply mkfs on
top and reset it to empty that way.  On a file system with millions of
files that will be much faster than deleting them individually.
Obviously only works if it is the entire file system.

Bob


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Re: Xorg -configure fails with created screens does not match number of detected devices

Op Thu, 02 Apr 2015 11:47:20 +0200 schreef venkat  
venka...@vortexindia.co.in:



On 02-04-2015 15:10, Floris wrote:
Op Thu, 02 Apr 2015 11:22:16 +0200 schreef Venkat Ragavan Swaminathan  
venka...@vortexindia.co.in:



Posted lsmod info : http://pastebin.com/Y79th67k


The right diver is loaded (gma500-gfx) but Xorg doesn't fully use it.

Backup up your Xorg.conf file and create a new one with only

Section Device
  Identifier gma500_gfx
  Driver modesetting
EndSection

Hopefully X doesn't fallback to vesa or fbdev

Success,

floris



Modified the XOrg.conf : made sure it has only one entry:
Section Device
  Identifier gma500_gfx
  Driver modesetting
EndSection

on boot : xorg pointer it terminated with an error.

   XorgLog: http://pastebin.com/7rpT6D59


Looks good. The right driver is used.

Add a Screen and Monitor selection to the Xorg.conf

Section Screen
  Identifier Screen0
  Device gma500_gfx
  Monitor Monitor0
EndSection

Section Monitor
  Identifier Monitor0
  VendorName Monitor Vendor
  ModelName Monitor Model
EndSection

Re: Xorg -configure fails with created screens does not match number of detected devices


On 02-04-2015 15:54, Floris wrote:
Op Thu, 02 Apr 2015 12:04:32 +0200 schreef venkat 
venka...@vortexindia.co.in:


On 02-04-2015 15:31, Floris wrote:

Op Thu, 02 Apr 2015 11:47:20 +0200 schreef venkat
venka...@vortexindia.co.in:

On 02-04-2015 15:10, Floris wrote:

Op Thu, 02 Apr 2015 11:22:16 +0200 schreef Venkat Ragavan
Swaminathan venka...@vortexindia.co.in:

Posted lsmod info : http://pastebin.com/Y79th67k


The right diver is loaded (gma500-gfx) but Xorg doesn't
fully use it.

Backup up your Xorg.conf file and create a new one with only

Section Device
   Identifier gma500_gfx
   Driver modesetting
EndSection

Hopefully X doesn't fallback to vesa or fbdev

Success,

floris



Modified the XOrg.conf : made sure it has only one entry:

Section Device
   Identifier gma500_gfx
   Driver modesetting
EndSection

on boot : xorg pointer it terminated with an error.

XorgLog: http://pastebin.com/7rpT6D59


Looks good. The right driver is used.

Add a Screen and Monitor selection to the Xorg.conf

Section Screen
  Identifier Screen0
  Device gma500_gfx
  Monitor Monitor0
EndSection

Section Monitor
  Identifier Monitor0
  VendorName Monitor Vendor
  ModelName Monitor Model
EndSection



The system boots but when GDM starts i just see a blank screen..


Switch back to tty1, kill gdm and start the X server with startx





Yes i tried that and i get an error: no screens found

[21.958] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/modesetting_drv.so
[21.959] (II) Module modesetting: vendor=X.Org Foundation
[21.959] compiled for 1.12.1.902, module version = 0.3.0
[21.959] Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[21.959] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 12.0
[21.959] (II) modesetting: Driver for Modesetting Kernel Drivers: kms
[21.959] (++) using VT number 8

[21.967] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for modesetting
[21.967] (II) UnloadModule: modesetting
[21.967] (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[21.967]
Fatal server error:
[21.967] no screens found
[21.967]
Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
 at http://wiki.x.org
 for help.


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Re: firefox-37, where to put



On Thursday 02 April 2015 05:33:40 Darac Marjal wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 05:16:37AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
  wordwrap off so as not to rip up long lines.
 
 
  Fun  games but not SG. Network-Manager had the last word when I
  excised that piece of insanity, the SOB zeroed out the eth0 settings
  in /etc/network/interfaces.  Bad dog, no biscuit from me.
 
  All discovered and I think fixed as I appear to have restored
  networking now.
 
  All triggered by discovering that the reason I was into swap all the
  time was that for the last 12 days I had been running a 32 bit rtai
  kernel which is NOT PAE, seems I need to edit the default number in
  /boot/grub/grub.cnf, it is not pointing at a 64 bit 3.2.0-4amd64
  vmlinuz.  That discovery in turn triggered by firefox spitting out a
  tummy ache on start attempts.
 
  I renamed the firefox script in /usr/bin/ which was actually running
  iceweasel to /usr/bin/firefux, then made a symlink from
 
  /home/gene/bin/firefox-37/firefox/firefox from /usr/bin/firefox.
 
  So, rebooted to a true 64 bit kernel, but 64 bit firefox refuses to
  run: gene@coyote:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/firefox
  lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 41 Apr  2 04:03 /usr/bin/firefox -
  /home/gene/bin/firefox-37/firefox/firefox Which is correct.  But
  First try it like the renamed script does it:
  gene@coyote:~$ firefox $@
  bash: /usr/bin/firefox: No such file or directory
  Then try w/o the argument.
  gene@coyote:~$ firefox
  bash: /usr/bin/firefox: No such file or directory
 
  Its 5am, and I don't seem to have even one eye open
  simultaineously...
 
  The firefox binary itself
  gene@coyote:~$ ls -l bin/firefox-37/firefox/firefox
  -rwxr-xr-x 1 gene gene 147776 Mar 26 23:51
  bin/firefox-37/firefox/firefox

 Often, in this situation, it's not the file you're thinking of which
 doesn't exist. When executing a binary file, the kernel will return
 the same error (ENOENT) for all files necessary to start the binary.
 In other words, you can't immediately tell if it's the binary which
 doesn't exist, or the libraries it's linked to.

 So, as you know the binary exists, run ldd /usr/bin/firefox to see
 which libraries it's linked against and see if they all exist.

gene@coyote:~/bin/firefox-37/firefox$ sudo ldd /usr/bin/firefox
[sudo] password for gene: 
not a dynamic executable

'scuse me?  That the hell did I download?

Now I am ready to nuke this.  I got it from the get firefox link which 
took me to the mozilla pages.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: Utöka en Btrfs volum

2015-04-02 Thread Anders Jackson

Hej.

Den 2 apr 2015 11:16 skrev Michael Kjörling mich...@kjorling.se:

 On 2 Apr 2015 07:51 +0200, from anders.jack...@gmail.com (Anders Jackson):
  Men du kan ju även skapa en ny partition 3 och lägga till dem till ditt
  btrfs-system. Alternativt så kan du ju skapa en ny disk som du sedan
lägger
  sig till ditt befintliga filsystem. Eller har jag missat något hur btrfs
  fungerar?

 Om btrfs fungerar på motsvarande sätt som zfs (som btrfs hämtat mycket
 inspiration från, i alla fall) så är det antagligen bättre att
 expandera den existerande partitionen, ge btrfs kunskap om
 förändringen och därefter göra en rebalansering. Det ger systemet
 bättre möjligheter att hantera disken som _en_ fysisk disk och att
 ha bättre inblick i hur data kan spridas för att minimera risken att
 ett fel i lagringen ställer till det i någon annan ände.

Tror inte det är något större problem med att skapa en ny partition och
lägga till den till btrfs. Det är i vart fall ett säkrare sätt att utöka
diskutrymmet än att modifiera partitionstabellen.  Tveksam till att det ger
någon fördel att hantera datalagringen som en partition istf två på samma
disk, såvia den inte används mycket.  Eftersom filsystemet kan få för sig
att sprida skrivningen på de två partitionerna.

 Lägga till ytterligare en helt ny disk är i så fall ett bättre
 alternativ än att lägga till en partition till på den existerande
 virtuella disken.

Ja, som jag skrev i slutet av mitt svar. Det är den lösning som troligen är
den optimala, om man exempelvis raid:ar lagringen.  Att vara beroende av
två diskar skall fungera ökar risken för dataförlust, eftersom det räcker
att en disk rasar för att det skall vara ett faktum.
Men eftersom det är en virtuell maskin och den troligen inte har tillgång
till fysiska diskar, så är det inte relevant här.

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OpenVPN doesn't restart after sleep

2015-04-02 Thread Tony van der Hoff

I have OpenVPN on my KDE Wheezy laptop configured to connect to my
wheezy VPS. When booting from scratch this works fine.

However, if I close the lid, thus putting the lappie into sleep mode,
then re-open it, OpenVPN appears to start, but I'm unable to access any
address outside of my local network, until I run sudo service openvpn
restart.

Google doesn't make any useful suggestions, so does anyone here know how
to fix this?

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Re: firefox-37, where to put

On Thursday 02 April 2015 06:34:52 Renaud  OLGIATI wrote:
 On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 22:54:02 -0400

 Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
  So where is the std place it would normally live?  If it can still
  find the old iceweasel password cache, that would be a huge plus.

 I usually unpack it in /opt/ after renaming the previous version dir
 from firefox to firefox_xx-y-z so I can, in case of problem, easily
 revert to the earlier version by changing dir name again. .

 And I have a link in /usr/bin pointing to /opt/firefox/firefox

I can do that, but it will be after I dl a 2nd copy and unpack it with 
tar.  Or if I can find a deb, get that. Clicking on the downloaded file 
brought up squeeze, and squeeze after screwing around for a while 
because I never saw it before, AND the double click did not even pass 
the filename to squeeze to open, I had to go find it and open it, it 
unpacked what looks to be a legit, ready to run directory tree, that 
contains nothing executable by man despite the shown permissions.

Thanks Ron.

 Cheers,

 Ron.
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Nice quote, but it should not be in my reply, but I just found out why, 
your sig separator is incomplete, its lf,dash,dash,space,lf to be 
correct.  You might want to fix the recipe so it puts a trailing space 
after the --

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Issues with Enigmail @ Icedove and a huge keyring

2015-04-02 Thread Frank Lanitz

Hi folks,

I've got a quiet big keyring (2k keys inside it) and since last updates
of enigmail I'm recognizing issues with it. Ehenever it's about
verifying a signature Enigmail is starting a gpg2 process like that

/usr/bin/gpg2 --charset utf-8 --display-charset utf-8 --batch --no-tty
--status-fd 2 --with-fingerprint --fixed-list-mode --with-colons --list-keys

which consumes 100% of one core for quiet some time and is blocking the
signature thing. This is happening about sind update to 1.8.x of Enigmail.

Before I report an issue upstream to Enigmail I'd like to ask you
whether some of you is experincing some similar issue and/or is might
having an idea for fixing/workaround.

Cheers,
Frank





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Re: firefox-37, where to put

On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 08:08:49 -0400
Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 
 
 On Thursday 02 April 2015 05:33:40 Darac Marjal wrote:
  On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 05:16:37AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
   wordwrap off so as not to rip up long lines.
  
  
   Fun  games but not SG. Network-Manager had the last word when I
   excised that piece of insanity, the SOB zeroed out the eth0
   settings in /etc/network/interfaces.  Bad dog, no biscuit from me.
  
   All discovered and I think fixed as I appear to have restored
   networking now.
  
   All triggered by discovering that the reason I was into swap all
   the time was that for the last 12 days I had been running a 32
   bit rtai kernel which is NOT PAE, seems I need to edit the
   default number in /boot/grub/grub.cnf, it is not pointing at a 64
   bit 3.2.0-4amd64 vmlinuz.  That discovery in turn triggered by
   firefox spitting out a tummy ache on start attempts.
  
   I renamed the firefox script in /usr/bin/ which was actually
   running iceweasel to /usr/bin/firefux, then made a symlink from
  
   /home/gene/bin/firefox-37/firefox/firefox from /usr/bin/firefox.
  
   So, rebooted to a true 64 bit kernel, but 64 bit firefox refuses
   to run: gene@coyote:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/firefox
   lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 41 Apr  2 04:03 /usr/bin/firefox -
   /home/gene/bin/firefox-37/firefox/firefox Which is correct.  But
   First try it like the renamed script does it:
   gene@coyote:~$ firefox $@
   bash: /usr/bin/firefox: No such file or directory
   Then try w/o the argument.
   gene@coyote:~$ firefox
   bash: /usr/bin/firefox: No such file or directory
  
   Its 5am, and I don't seem to have even one eye open
   simultaineously...
  
   The firefox binary itself
   gene@coyote:~$ ls -l bin/firefox-37/firefox/firefox
   -rwxr-xr-x 1 gene gene 147776 Mar 26 23:51
   bin/firefox-37/firefox/firefox
 
  Often, in this situation, it's not the file you're thinking of which
  doesn't exist. When executing a binary file, the kernel will return
  the same error (ENOENT) for all files necessary to start the binary.
  In other words, you can't immediately tell if it's the binary which
  doesn't exist, or the libraries it's linked to.
 
  So, as you know the binary exists, run ldd /usr/bin/firefox to see
  which libraries it's linked against and see if they all exist.
 
 gene@coyote:~/bin/firefox-37/firefox$ sudo ldd /usr/bin/firefox
 [sudo] password for gene: 
   not a dynamic executable

Run it on the binary itself, not the symlink.

Petter


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Re: Xorg -configure fails with created screens does not match number of detected devices


On 02-04-2015 15:31, Floris wrote:
Op Thu, 02 Apr 2015 11:47:20 +0200 schreef venkat 
venka...@vortexindia.co.in:


On 02-04-2015 15:10, Floris wrote:

Op Thu, 02 Apr 2015 11:22:16 +0200 schreef Venkat Ragavan
Swaminathan venka...@vortexindia.co.in:

Posted lsmod info : http://pastebin.com/Y79th67k


The right diver is loaded (gma500-gfx) but Xorg doesn't fully use it.

Backup up your Xorg.conf file and create a new one with only

Section Device
   Identifier gma500_gfx
   Driver modesetting
EndSection

Hopefully X doesn't fallback to vesa or fbdev

Success,

floris



Modified the XOrg.conf : made sure it has only one entry:

Section Device
   Identifier gma500_gfx
   Driver modesetting
EndSection

on boot : xorg pointer it terminated with an error.

XorgLog: http://pastebin.com/7rpT6D59


Looks good. The right driver is used.

Add a Screen and Monitor selection to the Xorg.conf

Section Screen
  Identifier Screen0
  Device gma500_gfx
  Monitor Monitor0
EndSection

Section Monitor
  Identifier Monitor0
  VendorName Monitor Vendor
  ModelName Monitor Model
EndSection



The system boots but when GDM starts i just see a blank screen..



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Re: Xorg -configure fails with created screens does not match number of detected devices

Op Thu, 02 Apr 2015 12:04:32 +0200 schreef venkat  
venka...@vortexindia.co.in:



On 02-04-2015 15:31, Floris wrote:
Op Thu, 02 Apr 2015 11:47:20 +0200 schreef venkat  
venka...@vortexindia.co.in:



On 02-04-2015 15:10, Floris wrote:
Op Thu, 02 Apr 2015 11:22:16 +0200 schreef Venkat Ragavan Swaminathan  
venka...@vortexindia.co.in:



Posted lsmod info : http://pastebin.com/Y79th67k


The right diver is loaded (gma500-gfx) but Xorg doesn't fully use it.

Backup up your Xorg.conf file and create a new one with only

Section Device
  Identifier gma500_gfx
  Driver modesetting
EndSection

Hopefully X doesn't fallback to vesa or fbdev

Success,

floris



Modified the XOrg.conf : made sure it has only one entry:
Section Device
  Identifier gma500_gfx
  Driver modesetting
EndSection

on boot : xorg pointer it terminated with an error.

   XorgLog: http://pastebin.com/7rpT6D59


Looks good. The right driver is used.

Add a Screen and Monitor selection to the Xorg.conf

Section Screen
 Identifier Screen0
 Device gma500_gfx
 Monitor Monitor0
EndSection

Section Monitor
 Identifier Monitor0
 VendorName Monitor Vendor
 ModelName Monitor Model
EndSection



The system boots but when GDM starts i just see a blank screen..




Switch back to tty1, kill gdm and start the X server with startx

Debian and FQDN lookup

2015-04-02 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby


Hi al,

WHen issuing 'hostname --fqdn', I'm supposed to get the FQDN.
Anyway when trying some different combinations, involving /etc/hostname, 
/etc/domainname, /etc/hosts, /etc/resolv.conf, I cannot figure out where 
the FQDN is looked up AND with what precedence.
Would you know the mechanism (precedence) and worlkflow where a Debian 7 
machine gets its FQDN?


Thank you.

Carte WIFI mt7630e

2015-04-02 Thread jbernon

Bonjour à tous, 

Pour info. 
Un développeur polonais, Jakub Kicinski, a enfin mis au point le driver linux 
de la carte Wifi/BT mt7630e pour laquelle Mediatek fournissait depuis un an un 
driver linux qui ne marchait pas. 

https://github.com/kuba-moo/mt7630e

Re: Issues with Enigmail @ Icedove and a huge keyring

2015-04-02 Thread Jonathan Dowland

Hi,

On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 12:15:44PM +0200, Frank Lanitz wrote:
 I've got a quiet big keyring (2k keys inside it) and since last updates
 of enigmail I'm recognizing issues with it. Ehenever it's about
 verifying a signature Enigmail is starting a gpg2 process like that
 
 /usr/bin/gpg2 --charset utf-8 --display-charset utf-8 --batch --no-tty
 --status-fd 2 --with-fingerprint --fixed-list-mode --with-colons --list-keys
 
 which consumes 100% of one core for quiet some time and is blocking the
 signature thing. This is happening about sind update to 1.8.x of Enigmail.
 
 Before I report an issue upstream to Enigmail I'd like to ask you
 whether some of you is experincing some similar issue and/or is might
 having an idea for fixing/workaround.

Try (if possible) adding --no-auto-check-trustdb to the GPG2 invocation of
enigmail, and separately cron a 'gpg --check-trustdb' (with possibly some of
--batch or --no-tty etc. added). I'm not sure what an appropriate frequency for
the cron should be, but gpg will not check the trust db even when asked if it
doesn't think it necessary. (unless you add --yes).


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Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-02 Thread Christian Schmidt


On 02.04.2015 04:54, Gene Heskett wrote:

Iceweasel commited suicide when I was asked by my bank to delete its
history, so now all I get is a blank terminal screen that is using 100%
of a cpu core until I kill it as root.  A total purge and reinstall
didn't fix it.


Did you remember to move your Iceweasel preferences out of the way?
Look at the dotfolders in your home directory and rename the 
corresponding one (e.g. .mozilla) to something different and try 
launching Iceweasel again.


Regards,
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Re: [solved securely now??] What is the correct way to set encrypted swap with systemd?

2015-04-02 Thread ~Stack~

On 04/01/2015 11:45 PM, David Wright wrote:
 Quoting ~Stack~ (i.am.st...@gmail.com):
 On 04/01/2015 03:27 PM, David Wright wrote:
 I don't recall seeing you post what you actually put into
 /etc/crypttab to test PARTUUID, only the erroneous earlier versions
 where you were still using swap's UUID.

 Fair enough. Completely plausible I did something wrong as I haven't
 used PARTUUID's in my /etc/crypttab before.


 # blkid | grep sda3
 /dev/sda3: PARTUUID=0003efe2-03

 # grep swap /etc/crypttab
 # swap works.
 #sda3_crypt /dev/disk/by-id/ata-TOSHIBA_MK3259GSXP_42K5CE0TT-part3
 /dev/urandom cipher=aes-xts-plain64,size=256,swap
 # swap doesn't work.
 sda3_crypt PARTUUID=0003efe2-03 /dev/urandom
 cipher=aes-xts-plain64,size=256,swap
 
 How about trying
 
 sda3_crypt /dev/disk/by-partuuid/0003efe2-03 /dev/urandom 
 cipher=aes-xts-plain64,size=256,swap

Same thing. Systemd.fsck runs on boot and takes ~2 minutes before timing
out. Swap is not mounted. :-/

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Re: Debian and FQDN lookup

2015-04-02 Thread Alex Mestiashvili


On 04/02/2015 02:10 PM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:

Hi al,

WHen issuing 'hostname --fqdn', I'm supposed to get the FQDN.
Anyway when trying some different combinations, involving 
/etc/hostname, /etc/domainname, /etc/hosts, /etc/resolv.conf, I cannot 
figure out where the FQDN is looked up AND with what precedence.
Would you know the mechanism (precedence) and worlkflow where a Debian 
7 machine gets its FQDN?


Thank you.


Hi,

the mechanism is described here:

 http://sources.debian.net/src/hostname/3.15/hostname.c/

and as far as I see it simply asks the DNS about the hostname using 
getaddrinfo.


On my system the --fqdn flag doesn't work if my /etc/resolv.conf 
doesn't have domain mydomain or search mydomain option enabled.


You can see it with strace hostname --fqdn.

Also see man resolver for additional information.

Alex

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Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-02 Thread Ron

On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 22:54:02 -0400
Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 So where is the std place it would normally live?  If it can still find 
 the old iceweasel password cache, that would be a huge plus.

I usually unpack it in /opt/ after renaming the previous version dir from 
firefox to firefox_xx-y-z so I can, in case of problem, easily revert to the 
earlier version by changing dir name again. .

And I have a link in /usr/bin pointing to /opt/firefox/firefox
 
Cheers,
 
Ron.
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Instalando Debian en mi laptop

2015-04-02 Thread Christian Poveda

Saludos!

Siempre he sido un entusiasta de Debian y lo utilicé durante un amplio
periodo de tiempo, sin embargo hace un par de años dejé de usarlo dado
que no pude hacerlo funcionar correctamente en mi laptop. Sin embargo
quisiera intentarlo de nuevo y quisiera saber si ustedes podrian
colaborarme con ello.

Actualmente tengo un Dell Inspiron 5437 y quisiera saber si es posible
hacer funcionar debian correctamente para poder usarlo en mi dia a
dia. Les mando un lspci de mi laptop

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT DRAM Controller (rev 09)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT
Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT HD Audio Controller (rev 09)
00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series USB xHCI HC (rev 04)
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series HECI #0 (rev 04)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series HD Audio Controller (rev 04)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev e4)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series PCI Express Root Port 3 (rev e4)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series PCI Express Root Port 4 (rev e4)
00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series PCI Express Root Port 5 (rev e4)
00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series USB EHCI #1 (rev 04)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series LPC Controller (rev 04)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series SATA Controller 1
[AHCI mode] (rev 04)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 8 Series SMBus Controller (rev 04)
06:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless
Network Adapter (rev 01)
07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 08)
08:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK107M [GeForce GT 750M] (rev a1)

Estoy especialmente preocupado por la tarjeta de red inalambrica dado
que hace poco intenté instalar debian y no conseguí hacerla funcionar.

Gracias por su ayuda!


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Re: bons pour un domaine chez gandi

2015-04-02 Thread Mainteneur

Yep,

Ma proposition est assez simple, j'ai des bons pour des domaines, je ne vais 
pas tout utiliser, je les propose à qui en veut pour soutenir un projet de 
LL. Ici on est sur une liste debian alors je parle de debian.
Pour le reste cela se présente sous forme de codes de réduction lors d'un 
passage de commande pour un nouveau domaine et je pense que ce n'est pas une 
offre à vie et qu'il faudra payer au renouvellement.
Je me contenterai de fournir le code à la personne intéressée et elle se 
débrouillera avec.
Note : si c'est pas 100% debian c'est pas grave du moment que c'est pour un 
logiciel libre.

Vous pouvez aller voir sur le site de gandi, l'offre est valable pendant 
quelque temps.

Le jeudi 2 avril 2015 23:36:40, Philippe Gras a écrit :
 Le 2 avr. 15 à 22:44, Adrien a écrit :
  Le 02/04/2015 22:23, Philippe Gras a écrit :
  C'est vrai que les conditions mériteraient d'être plus clairement
  précisées.
  
  Bah, Mainteneur a amicalement proposé cela et son idée, plutôt
  hippie je
  pense, n'est peut-être pas d'avoir une démarche de service clientèle
  avec conditions d'utilisation. J'imagine qu'il n'a pas pensé cela
  comme
  un service automatique et qu'il faut être raisonnable.
  
  À moins que cette remarque ne fût du second degré ?
 
 Oui et non. Parfois les bureaux d'enregistrement se rattrapent au
 renouvellement.
 
 D'autre part, André avait en tête un projet pas 100% Debian (…donc,
 déviant ;-).
 
 Puisqu'on est dans les cadeaux, j'en ai un HS, et qui va vous faire
 hurler :-D Mais
 comme on est demain Trolldi, j'en profite pour squatter ce sujet et
 je me lance :
 
 J'ai 2 encarts adSense à proposer à qui veux les placer sur un site,
 que je suis en
 train de remonter sous  un autre domaine. La condition, c'est que la
 personne soit
 capable d'éditer de beaux encarts attractifs, et donc connaisse bien
 le procédé du
 programme adSense.
 
  Adrien.

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Re: A question about deleting a big file structure from a big disk in Jessie: Why does this work? I'm really worried.

On 20150402_2135-0500, David Wright wrote:
 Quoting Paul E Condon (pecon...@mesanetworks.net):
 [...]
  Some time ago I decided to a make a copy of these data,
  so I would have more than one copy.
 [...]
 Is the copying between a USB disk and an internal, or between two
 partitions on the same USB disk, or between two USB disks? (Ranked in
 decreasing reliability in my own experience.)
 
  When I tried, the job would always crash well before completion.
 
 What are the symptoms of a crash? (Hang, segfault, write-failure
 as readonly, etc)
  Switch of target disk to read-only mount.
 
 [...]
  But in both cases the
  deletion failed because 'gfx2' has been remounted read-only, which
  makes it impossible to update the target directory tree.
 
 Do you watch /var/log/kern.log which this is going on. I find that
 quite useful. For example, messages like
 usb 1-8: reset high-speed USB device number 5 using ehci_hcd
 are accompanied by a pause of anything up to a minute in file
 transfer. I get these quite frequently if I do massive copies between
 two USB disks, so I now stage such copies through the internal disk.

Thanks. I do watch my own capture of the file descriptors 1 and 2 into
a file in /var/pec/ (sub-dir name, pec, is my initials). This will be
a useful addition, I'm sure.

In my system, most of my hypothesizing is from observing coincident
changes in two or more of the nine (soon to be ten) windows that I
monitor on system 'big'

 
 I'm not so unlucky as Bob appears to be (he says, touching wood), but

I think Bob came to his conclusion during a previous period of
instability in Debian, but rather than start an argument that can only
degenerate trying to score debating point, I want to gather more
date. Bob has already helped me by making a truly useful suggestion,
for which I thank him.

It's getting late here. I won't get anything useful done tonight.
I'll just start making mistakes, if I start something new now.

May you both have a good night,
Paul

 I do get occasional I/O errors on USB transfers, which can make the
 disk readonly, but sometimes make it disappear altogether (ie it
 gets unmounted, not remounted).

All of my file systems are journaled. Did you notice a delay in remount
as the journal was replayed?

  I have not tried it, but from my investigation I'm sure that a
  massive delete of some obsolete file structure from the HD that
  was /dev/sda1 during Debian install would trigger a remount-ro,
  which surely would lead to a system crash in short order.
 
 You get streams of error messages (like when the disk fills up)
 but it shouldn't actually crash.
 
 (OTOH when you get a kernel error, there can be circumstances where
 the system will panic and *not* sync/write to the disk because to do
 so could cause corruption.)

So it helps to know about data that can be ignored for a legitimate
reason.

 [...]
  I'm worried about what I found. I want to interest someone who has far
  more knowledge about how the kernel actually works internally to look
  into this. I done other experiments more complicated to report, I can't
  find anything comforting about this situation. If you think it's OK,
  you probably don't understand, IMHO.
 
 My prejudices, based on no more than observations of my system, make me,
 like Bob, suspect the interface rather than the kernel. My wife,
 running windows, sees similar external symptoms (pauses, errors),
 though neither of us would know how to observe them in like manner to
 linux.

I like to play the scientist in my old age. All theories begin with curiosity
about a random observation. A classic case is the observation of a pocket
watch lieing on the path during a walk in a park. In our case of hypotheses
about the design of the kernel, it is unacceptable to me to invoke the idea
of a universal creator, and perfectly OK to contemplate the possibility of
a flaw in the design.

 Just in passing, if clamav wakes up and spots the USB drive, file

clamav is terra incognita to me. 

 transfers can stop for 10 or 15 minutes; the USB disk heads will still
 be very active. I keep an xterm running top so I can spot that (and
 other cpu-guzzlers like xulrunner).
 
 Oh, and to David C, this happens irrespective of wheezy or jessie
 (for me).
 
 Cheers,
 David.

Cheers, 

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Re: A question about deleting a big file structure from a big disk in Jessie: Why does this work? I'm really worried.

On 20150402_1746-0700, David Christensen wrote:
 On 04/02/2015 04:21 PM, Paul E Condon wrote:
 For several years I have been making daily backups of my four Debian
 computers using Rsync and a small script of my own devising. The data
 has been accumulating on an external USB drive in a partition with the
 label, gfx5. Some time ago I decided to a make a copy of these data,
 so I would have more than one copy. I had to use Rsync to do this
 because it I were to use cp the copies of files labeled by different
 dates and hard-link together on gfx5 would exceed the capacity on the
 target disk (which was/is labeled gfx2). This is a simple one line
 command to Rsync.  When I tried, the job would always crash well
 before completion.
 
 You're using a Testing operating system distribution (Jessie), not a
 Stable operating system distribution (Wheezy):
 
 1.  If you want to help debug Jessie, then you should create a script that
 demonstrates the undesired behavior on a fresh install of a specific
 snapshot of Jessie and post your script and console session. (E.g. the
 script should not depend upon your data, systems, or networks; it should
 produce similar results on equivalent machines.)

  Until I discovered a pattern in failures, my default assumption was that
  the problems were inattention to detail on my part and frequent upgrades
  of Jessie, which can happen almost daily. Does someone have a stable of
  i386 computers each one with a particular weekly build on it? I don't.


 2.  If you want reliable operations, then you should use Wheezy.  If that
 doesn't do what you want, post your console session.

I got into this thinking I want to follow Jessie development, and
tinker with a pet project while exercising Jessie to see if I could
notice any bugs. I don't want to be running Wheezy when Jessie is
released, and I don't want to explain openly why. The evidence that
made me write was gathered from nine windows of ssh sessions on 'gq'
being displayed on 'big'.  I would have to make a video 'movie' of the
nine together to show what I saw. I can't do that. I don't have the
knowledge, skill, or equipment.  It was gleaned for which windows
changed in coincidence, and which changed singly. If anyone does have
several computers that can be dedicated for a short while, and the
curiosity to see if my observations can be reproduced, I think it
would be nice if they would contact me for more details. I don't want
to write a great treatise that nobody will read or understand. I've
been criticized for the way I write.

The basic list is two computers, two USB hard disks 3TB or maybe
larger. The computer to which the 3TB disks are plugged in should have
12GB or more of swap space to accomodate Rsync of this big tranfer as
one go. (the Rsync options are -aHvv ).  And a copious source of
structured data (a local GIT server, perhaps) Maybe someone who knows
about Clouds could do the whold test with Clouds and virtualization,
about which I also know nothing practical.

 
 
 In either case, you will want to check the source and destination file
 systems before invoking 'rsync':
 
 $ man fsck

  I know about man fsck. I have read it many times. I have already
  eliminated many hypotheses thru careful readings of man fsck. And
  careful examination of the source and destination file systems. 

I know how little chance I have of convincing this audience that I have
seen what I believe I have seen. Offering to help qualified people to
develop their own independent tests of my hypothesis is the way I want
to go. At some point this will be decided. If I'm right, I really won't
be happy, because it will be very bad for Debian. 

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Re: A question about deleting a big file structure from a big disk in Jessie: Why does this work? I'm really worried.

On 20150402_1803-0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
 Paul E Condon wrote:
  For several years I have been making daily backups of my four Debian
  computers using Rsync and a small script of my own devising. The data
  has been accumulating on an external USB drive in a partition with the
 ...
  I'm worried about what I found. I want to interest someone who has far
  more knowledge about how the kernel actually works internally to look
  into this. I done other experiments more complicated to report, I can't
  find anything comforting about this situation. If you think it's OK,
  you probably don't understand, IMHO.
 
 I often have problems with USB mounted file systems.  I believe the
 cheap nature of the USB hardware all around to be the major
 contributor.  I do use USB for a big floppy all of the time.  But
 whenever I keep a USB disk mounted for a long time it has always
 failed after a while.  A month.  Six months.  I find the USB file
 system subsystem unreliable.  I would never trust it for critical data
 such as backups.  I think you are seeing the same unreliable mounted
 USB disk problems that I have seen for a long time.
 
 If you remove the disk from your USB container and mount it directly
 with its native SATA (or IDE) connector then you will find that it is
 as reliable as the rest of the native storage.  I blame the cheap USB
 controller electronics.  Although perhaps the kernel driver is also to
 blame in there too.
 
 [On the converse I find USB network adapters and USB sound cards to
 have been rock solid.  Meaning that while I avoid USB disks I actively
 use USB networking on several machines to add additional NICs.  I am
 planning another site using additional USB NICs.  It is probably
 hardware dependent but they have been working great for me regardless
 of seeing the opposite for disks.  And I have three sites using USB
 sound cards very robustly.  Since I disparaged USB disk I felt I
 needed to clarify that it was only disk and not other USB.]
 
  I found two other ways to delay the crash:
  1) using nice as in: ' nice -n 19 find -depth -print -delete'
 (this, I think, slows down the main running job in relation to the
 running of the kernel.)
 
 Read the man page for ionice.  You might consider using it instead
 of nice.  Nice works with cpu usage.  But ionice works with I/O usage
 and is directly what you are fighting.  You might try:
 
   ionice -c 3 find -depth -print -delete

Thanks for this suggestion.

 
 If I am deleting an entire file system I will usually simply mkfs on
 top and reset it to empty that way.  On a file system with millions of
 files that will be much faster than deleting them individually.
 Obviously only works if it is the entire file system.
 
 Bob

About long term mounts of USB being a problem: On the same computer
there is mounted a USB labeled 'sgt1' which is a 1 TB external USB. It
is the disk that is currently collecting daily backups using the same
script as was mentioned in my first email. Day in, day out, if that
computer is on, cron takes a full backup a little before 630 AM and
sends an email to me if there is anything written to file descriptor
2.  There is nothing, unless investigation reveals a cause, like I
unplugged the power supply while vacuuming the area and forgot to plug
it back in.

I know you have had a different experience. I have been running this
script unchanged since before 2009 and only since I have been running
Jessie and running copies of massive file structure have I been having
problems.  The script uses the Rsync option --link-dest=DIR and really
a very small amount of data is actually transferred in each daily
run. Rsync regularly reports Speedup of over 1000 times. I had been
making quite a lot of progress on organizing these file in a more
useful way, until I made the decision to move to Jessie, for reasons
that I am sure will turn out to be justified.  For me, every failure
of an external USB HD turned out, after the fact to be attributable to
my not already knowing something like the transition to larger sector
size. I've learned a lot. And I don't want to imply that 'sgt1' has
been in service since 2009, just that one HD was connected to that
computer with its spindle motor running, and always responding wnen
crontab called for it.

So I'm skeptical. You may be right. But we are mostly all running Jessie,
now, and will all be running Jessie soon.

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Re: firefox-37, where to put



On Thursday 02 April 2015 13:16:15 Reco wrote:
  Hi.

 On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 13:06:05 -0400

 Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
  This is nucking futs:

 No, that shows that Mozilla Foundation cares about people. Would you
 prefer Google's approach - latest Chrome requires kernel 3.19?

  gene@coyote:~/bin/firefox-37/firefox$ file firefox
  firefox: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV),
  dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18,
  BuildID[sha1]=0xd9c52e07232a78690be6d991546a12bb3668601d, stripped
 
  For GNU Linux-2.6.18? And I'm running 3.2.0-4amd64?

 That's minimal kernel version that guaranteed to work. And by running
 Debian-provided kernel you're saving yourself a whole lot of trouble
 :)

  Itself what, 2 years
  old? What the hell are the chances for that being compatible when
  its well north of 6 years old?  My CNC machinery is running
  Ubuntu-10.04-4 LTS with kernel 2.6.32-122-rtai, 5 years old this
  month.

 Good ones. Firefox does not depend on kernel internals, and the motto
 of Linux kernel project is 'you do not break userspace'. It's recorded
 that people were able to run a 'rogue' executable compiled circa `92
 on modern Linux kernels.

 It's the userspace (i.e. libraries) you should worry about, not
 kernel.

 So, don't look at 'file' output that much, run 'ldd'.

 Reco

ldd says its not an executable, but then says ldd itself is not, 
while file says its (ldd) a Bourne Again SHell script.

Am I compromized?

Thanks Reco.

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Re: firefox-37, where to put



On Thursday 02 April 2015 13:48:23 The Wanderer wrote:
 On 04/02/2015 at 01:29 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
  On Thursday 02 April 2015 09:34:36 Petter Adsen wrote:
  On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 09:24:19 -0400
 
 
  petter@monster:~/Downloads/firefox$ ls -l firefox
  -rwxr-xr-x 1 petter petter 147776 mars  27 04:51 firefox
 
  -rwxr-xr-x 1 gene gene 147776 Mar 26 23:51 firefox
 
  petter@monster:~/Downloads/firefox$ ldd firefox
  linux-vdso.so.1 = (0x7ffcfabd4000)
  libpthread.so.0 = /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
   (0x7f281ae5)
  libdl.so.2 = /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2
   (0x7f281ac4c000)
  librt.so.1 = /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/librt.so.1
   (0x7f281aa43000)
  libstdc++.so.6 = /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6
   (0x7f281a734000)
  libm.so.6 = /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6
   (0x7f281a42c000)
  libgcc_s.so.1 = /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1
   (0x7f281a215000)
  libc.so.6 = /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
   (0x7f2819e4b000)
  /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x7f281b091000)
 
  whereas here:
  gene@coyote:~/bin/firefox-37/firefox$ ldd firefox
  not a dynamic executable
  I also tried a sudo ldd firefox and got exactly the same response.
 
  Now, is not ldd itself an executable?
  gene@coyote:~/bin/firefox-37/firefox$ ldd /usr/bin/ldd
  not a dynamic executable
  WTH

 $ file /usr/bin/ldd
 /usr/bin/ldd: Bourne-Again shell script, ASCII text executable

 If you want to test ldd, try it on /bin/true or suchlike - or at least
 check with file first, to make sure that what you're testing it on is
 actually a binary file.

  And see what you get. Note that this isn't a Debian machine, so
  you won't get the same library versions, but they should be
  similar. If you have the same version of FF that I dl'ed, then the
  md5sums should be identical. Otherwise, something is corrupted.
 
  And iceweasel has recovered.  No history but prefs are intact
  
 
  Didn't you start this thread by saying you deleted your history?
 
  :)
 
  Yes, but all it had been able to do after the re-install was start 2
  copies, spinning its wheels with 1 of my phenoms cores pegged out
  and north of 150C for temps.  And it was just cleaned  regreased
  with Artic Silver in Oct 2014.  One of my annual rites.

 My guess is that it was parsing (and partly choking on) some part of
 your user profile, and that the reason it came back is that it
 managed to finish that process.

 Normally that shouldn't require nearly that long or nearly that much
 system load, but in some cases it may be possible.

Apparently so.  But I don't recall launching it again after killing it 
for the 5th+ time.  I'd gone to bed around midnight, the ^%#@! phone 
woke me up about 3:45, and when I'd checked see if ther was a message, 
no, recycled most of a cuppa, and came in here to find it on-screen and 
idle surprised me.

 If you want to guarantee avoiding that entirely, the only way to do it
 that I know of is to remove the entire Firefox profile
 (~/.mozilla/firefox/profiledirname) and start from scratch. That would
 remove all of your preferences and extensions (as well as your
 history, et cetera), however, so it's a considerably more drastic move
 - and not one I'd consider for myself, without _extensive_ research
 into possible alternatives.

Same attitude here, Wanderer.  Thanks.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: apt-offline usage

2015-04-02 Thread peter

From: franc...@avalenn.eu
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2015 13:40:25 +0100
 If I remember correctly but this is from memory from 3 or 4 years ago
 it is possible to need two round-trip between networked and isolated
 server :

 isolated$ apt-offline set --update ...
 networked$ apt-offline get ...
 isolated$ apt-offline install
 isolated$ apt-offline set --install $package ...
 networked$ apt-offline get ...
 isolated$ apt-offline install ...
 isolated$ apt-get install $package

That installs $package with no difficulty.  Good!  Thanks!

My understanding is that apt-offline install filename.bundle 
upgrades the cache of data needed for the upgrade but doesn't 
perform the upgrade.  

apt-get install package upgrades a specific package.
To upgrade all packages available from the bundle I tried apt-get install *.  
* is expanded to files and directories in the current directory. 
Definitely not the intention. 

apt-get upgrade attempts to access network sources
which also is not the intention.  How is an upgrade 
from the local cache invoked?

Thanks,  ... P.

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Re: Debian and FQDN lookup

2015-04-02 Thread Alex Mestiashvili


 and as far as I see it simply asks the DNS about the hostname using 
 getaddrinfo.
 
 But, with stock nsswitch.conf, it issues uname(2) syscall first, goes
 to /etc/hosts second, and if it encounters FQDN hostname - it all ends
 here.
 If /etc/hosts contain only bare hostname - it'd return a bare hostname.
 
 Only if /etc/hosts does not contain a hostname - a DNS search will be
 performed (or other resolving method, all according to nsswitch.conf).

Yes, agree, though you will not see any of steps above if nscd is
running as it was in my case.

 
 On my system the --fqdn flag doesn't work if my /etc/resolv.conf 
 doesn't have domain mydomain or search mydomain option enabled.
 
 Or it's because you have a bare hostname in /etc/hosts ;)

It is because /etc/hosts had a wrong entry at the time I was testing it...
Thank you for putting it all together.

Alex


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Re: problema systemd y livecd

El Wed, 01 Apr 2015 16:30:26 -0400, Haylem Candelario Bauzá escribió:

 Hola, estoy haciendo un livecd de debian 8 ya lo había hecho del 7. El
 problema es que en el 7 yo limpiaba /etc/fstab y /etc/mtab antes de
 hacer la imagen e instalaba live-boot y live-config que tienen versiones
 para systemd y sysv. Pero en debian 8 ni con uno ni con otro bootea bien
 el livecd y el problema radica en el /etc/fstab.
 Si limpio el /etc/fstab en debian 8 al reiniciar el sistema se monta
 cx0mo solo lectura además que al hacer la imágen del live cd lanza
 kernel panic. Esto no pasa en debian 7.
 La pregunta es que archivos debo limpiar/borrar antes de hacer un live
 de debian 8 y como hago para que funcionens correctamente los scripts de
 inicio live-config y live-boot cuando se usa systemd que al final es el
 que me interesa?. A lo mejor instalando usando solo sysv funciona pero
 el live va a tener gnome y me interesa hacerlo con systemd dada las
 novedades que tiene. Gracias de antemano.

Hum... ni idea. 

No sé con qué herramienta lo estarás haciendo pero yo preguntaría a la 
gente que lleva el proyecto (tienen una lista de correo), seguro que te 
dan alguna pista:

http://live.debian.net/project/contact/

Saludos,

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2015-04-02 Thread AGA


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Sobre squid.....

2015-04-02 Thread Leonardo Serrano Berdeal


Hola gente:

Tengo serios y graves problemas con mi squid 2.7 stable 9, ya no se que 
mas hacer, tengo una ADSL  con una velocidad de 512/256 kb/s y antes 
cuando tenia mis servidores montados en ¨windows¨ (kerio) la navegacion 
me era mas rapida y efectiva que ahora, incluso mis descargas llegaban a 
sus correspondientes 64kb/s, pero ahora que esta en linux no paso ni 
siquiera de los 20 o 30 y es algo que para mi no es logico, un amigo me 
ah ayudado a migrar a debian y hemos puesto squid como proxy, pero la 
navegacion se ha puesto muy muy muy lenta... tengo puesto incluso 
Delay pools y aun asi sigue super lenta, entonces cuando me decido y 
pongo una IP real en mi pc, todo navega super bien, super rapido, cuando 
vuelvo a estar bajo el squid todo vuelve a paso de tortuga, quiero 
agregar que estoy denegando las paginas con squidguard por si en algo 
influye aqui les dejo mi configuracion de los delay..



delay_pools 3
delay_class 1 1
delay_class 2 2
delay_class 3 2
delay_parameters 1 -1/-1
delay_parameters 2 32768/32768  -1/-1
delay_parameters 3 16384/16384 -1/-1

delay_access 1 allow Ldap_Proxy_Admins
delay_access 1 deny all
delay_access 2 allow Ldap_Rapido
delay_access 2 deny all
delay_access 3 allow Ldap_Lento
delay_access 3 deny all

la memoria en cache es de 128mb, he dado mil vueltas y nada! 
cambio por aqui cambio por alla y no resuelvo nada! y si comento los 
delay pools pues arriba mas lenta la cosa aun..Mi correo consume, 
pero no tanto, aun esta montado en MDaemon y tiene puesto una 
restriccion de ancho de banda..


Ante todo gracias..espero poder encontrar una solucion lo antes 
posible




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Re: problema systemd y livecd

2015-04-02 Thread Haylem Candelario Bauzá

El jue, 02-04-2015 a las 14:22 +, Camaleón escribió: 
 El Wed, 01 Apr 2015 16:30:26 -0400, Haylem Candelario Bauzá escribió:
 
  Hola, estoy haciendo un livecd de debian 8 ya lo había hecho del 7. El
  problema es que en el 7 yo limpiaba /etc/fstab y /etc/mtab antes de
  hacer la imagen e instalaba live-boot y live-config que tienen versiones
  para systemd y sysv. Pero en debian 8 ni con uno ni con otro bootea bien
  el livecd y el problema radica en el /etc/fstab.
  Si limpio el /etc/fstab en debian 8 al reiniciar el sistema se monta
  cx0mo solo lectura además que al hacer la imágen del live cd lanza
  kernel panic. Esto no pasa en debian 7.
  La pregunta es que archivos debo limpiar/borrar antes de hacer un live
  de debian 8 y como hago para que funcionens correctamente los scripts de
  inicio live-config y live-boot cuando se usa systemd que al final es el
  que me interesa?. A lo mejor instalando usando solo sysv funciona pero
  el live va a tener gnome y me interesa hacerlo con systemd dada las
  novedades que tiene. Gracias de antemano.
 
 Hum... ni idea. 
 
 No sé con qué herramienta lo estarás haciendo pero yo preguntaría a la 
 gente que lleva el proyecto (tienen una lista de correo), seguro que te 
 dan alguna pista:
 
 http://live.debian.net/project/contact/
 
 Saludos,
 
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uso una herramienta creada por mí pero el problema real es el siguiente
para hacer un live se debe limpiar el /etc/fstab porque no tiene sentido
que exista una definicion de disco alguna puesto que el livecd es
independiente de la máquina. Ahora, en debian 6/7 yo lo limpiaba y al
hacer el live todo funcionaba bien pero en debian 8 systemd parece que
monta el sistema en solo lectura si el /etc/fstab está vacío.
Para ello existen los live-config scripts que configuran la máquina con
cada arranque y al parecer en debian 8 están funcionando pero con
el /etc/fstab vacío no trabaja el livecd y lanza kernel panic que creo
que sea porque al estar el sistema en solo lectura no pueda escribir los
temporales, etc.

Lo que necesito es saber si por ejemplo hay que pasarle algo al kernel
como lo hacia por ejemplo

vmlinux boot=live config 

para que funcione con systemd

si alguien conoce sobre esto...




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Re: Iceweasel Logo

2015-04-02 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia

- Original Message - 
From: Felix Perez

To: lista-debian
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: Iceweasel Logo

la verdad no me gusta, prefiero el anterior, creo que le falta alma, muy 
plano para mi gusto.

Saludos.

En efecto, pero además no me convence la simplificación. Pareces
querer llevarlo a un punto intermedio entre el logo actual y lo que se
llama flat design que es como la tendencia actual, bidimensional y sin
efectos.

Personalmente no me convence, creo que pierde todo el encanto, sobre
todo por la mirada, pareciera un iceweasel malvado ahora, se ve más
hostil y menos amigable y a esa percepción influye la oscuridad de la
esfera sobre la que se encuentra, ya que al simplificarlo le quitas
toda la luz.

No es un mal trabajo, pero todavía necesita ajustes.

Saludos

A mi tampoco me gusta, me quedo 1 millón de veces mejor con el que está que 
con el propuesto. Y no es que esté contrario al cambio, sino que no va con 
mi gusto.

Saludos

| ISMAEL |

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Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-02 Thread The Wanderer

On 04/02/2015 at 09:24 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:

 On Thursday 02 April 2015 08:23:32 Petter Adsen wrote:

 On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 08:08:49 -0400

 gene@coyote:~/bin/firefox-37/firefox$ sudo ldd /usr/bin/firefox
 [sudo] password for gene:
 not a dynamic executable

 Run it on the binary itself, not the symlink.

 Petter
 
 And it still claims not an executable.

Check it with 'file' to make doubly-sure sure it's not another symlink
(or a script).

 Does using squeeze to unpack a tarball screw things up this bad

Certainly not.

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Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-02 Thread Elimar Riesebieter

* Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com [2015-04-01 22:54 -0400]:

[...]
 So I just dl'd firefox-37 tarball for 64 bit linux and unpacked it into 
 my home dirs bin subdir.  But thats likely not going to be great as it 
 probably looks someplace else for its libraries  such.

Iceweasel 37.0 is available in experimental:

iceweasel:
  Installed: 37.0-1
  Candidate: 37.0-1
  Version table:
 *** 37.0-1 0
100 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ experimental/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 31.6.0esr-1 0
990 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages

Just run:
apt-get install -t experimental iceweasel

You need at least
deb http://$YOUR_MIRROR/debian/ experimental main
in sources.list to get it.

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Re: Iceweasel Logo

El Wed, 01 Apr 2015 12:52:06 -0600, Esteban Monge escribió:

 Hola gente:
 
 Estoy proponiendo un logo modificado para Iceweasel, mi idea es que sea
 con colores mas sólidos y simplista. Se basa en el anterior.
 
 En mi página web esta la imagen y el archivo SVG:
 http://www.emonge.com/doku.php/iceweasel_logo
 
 ¿Como lo ven? Con los ojos...

A mí me sigue dando miedo la mirada de la comadreja esa o lo que sea :-S

 Y este es el bug report en Debian:
 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=781698

Si quieres darle difusión podrías mandar un mensaje con el enlace del bug 
a alguna lista o sitio dedicado, por ejemplo:

https://wiki.debian.org/DebianArt

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Re: firefox-37, where to put

On Thursday 02 April 2015 07:23:58 Christian Schmidt wrote:
 On 02.04.2015 04:54, Gene Heskett wrote:
  Iceweasel commited suicide when I was asked by my bank to delete its
  history, so now all I get is a blank terminal screen that is using
  100% of a cpu core until I kill it as root.  A total purge and
  reinstall didn't fix it.

 Did you remember to move your Iceweasel preferences out of the way?
 Look at the dotfolders in your home directory and rename the
 corresponding one (e.g. .mozilla) to something different and try
 launching Iceweasel again.

 Regards,
 Christian

No I didn't Christian. But when I was awakened by the phone at 3:55 am by 
some AH that left no trace on the phone system, just let it ring and 
hung up 50 milliseconds before the answering machine kicked in. I came 
in here, and iceweasel was on screen and had apparently recovered.  With 
all my prefs and passwds intact.  I didn't launch it  the only other 
person in this house wouldn't know how!

Is this where we drag out that now ancient Sir Arther C. Clark quote 
about any sufficiently advanced technology is indestinguishable from 
magic?

Call me puzzled.

One other question, there is a command to make alsamixer save its current 
settings but I've not needed it in years, so I've forgotten it. I had to 
run the mixer and reenable master after I'd rebooted.

I'll see what the man page has to say.

Thanks Christian.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: firefox-37, where to put



On Thursday 02 April 2015 08:23:32 Petter Adsen wrote:
 On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 08:08:49 -0400

 Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
  On Thursday 02 April 2015 05:33:40 Darac Marjal wrote:
   On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 05:16:37AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
wordwrap off so as not to rip up long lines.
   
   
Fun  games but not SG. Network-Manager had the last word when
I excised that piece of insanity, the SOB zeroed out the eth0
settings in /etc/network/interfaces.  Bad dog, no biscuit from
me.
   
All discovered and I think fixed as I appear to have restored
networking now.
   
All triggered by discovering that the reason I was into swap all
the time was that for the last 12 days I had been running a 32
bit rtai kernel which is NOT PAE, seems I need to edit the
default number in /boot/grub/grub.cnf, it is not pointing at a
64 bit 3.2.0-4amd64 vmlinuz.  That discovery in turn triggered
by firefox spitting out a tummy ache on start attempts.
   
I renamed the firefox script in /usr/bin/ which was actually
running iceweasel to /usr/bin/firefux, then made a symlink from
   
/home/gene/bin/firefox-37/firefox/firefox from /usr/bin/firefox.
   
So, rebooted to a true 64 bit kernel, but 64 bit firefox refuses
to run: gene@coyote:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/firefox
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 41 Apr  2 04:03 /usr/bin/firefox -
/home/gene/bin/firefox-37/firefox/firefox Which is correct.  But
First try it like the renamed script does it:
gene@coyote:~$ firefox $@
bash: /usr/bin/firefox: No such file or directory
Then try w/o the argument.
gene@coyote:~$ firefox
bash: /usr/bin/firefox: No such file or directory
   
Its 5am, and I don't seem to have even one eye open
simultaineously...
   
The firefox binary itself
gene@coyote:~$ ls -l bin/firefox-37/firefox/firefox
-rwxr-xr-x 1 gene gene 147776 Mar 26 23:51
bin/firefox-37/firefox/firefox
  
   Often, in this situation, it's not the file you're thinking of
   which doesn't exist. When executing a binary file, the kernel will
   return the same error (ENOENT) for all files necessary to start
   the binary. In other words, you can't immediately tell if it's the
   binary which doesn't exist, or the libraries it's linked to.
  
   So, as you know the binary exists, run ldd /usr/bin/firefox to
   see which libraries it's linked against and see if they all exist.
 
  gene@coyote:~/bin/firefox-37/firefox$ sudo ldd /usr/bin/firefox
  [sudo] password for gene:
  not a dynamic executable

 Run it on the binary itself, not the symlink.

 Petter

And it still claims not an executable.

Does using squeeze to unpack a tarball screw things up this bad

And iceweasel has recovered.  No history but prefs are intact 

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: firefox-37, where to put

On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 09:24:19 -0400
Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 
 
 On Thursday 02 April 2015 08:23:32 Petter Adsen wrote:
  On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 08:08:49 -0400
 
  Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
   On Thursday 02 April 2015 05:33:40 Darac Marjal wrote:
On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 05:16:37AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
 wordwrap off so as not to rip up long lines.


 Fun  games but not SG. Network-Manager had the last word
 when I excised that piece of insanity, the SOB zeroed out the
 eth0 settings in /etc/network/interfaces.  Bad dog, no
 biscuit from me.

 All discovered and I think fixed as I appear to have restored
 networking now.

 All triggered by discovering that the reason I was into swap
 all the time was that for the last 12 days I had been running
 a 32 bit rtai kernel which is NOT PAE, seems I need to edit
 the default number in /boot/grub/grub.cnf, it is not pointing
 at a 64 bit 3.2.0-4amd64 vmlinuz.  That discovery in turn
 triggered by firefox spitting out a tummy ache on start
 attempts.

 I renamed the firefox script in /usr/bin/ which was actually
 running iceweasel to /usr/bin/firefux, then made a symlink
 from

 /home/gene/bin/firefox-37/firefox/firefox
 from /usr/bin/firefox.

 So, rebooted to a true 64 bit kernel, but 64 bit firefox
 refuses to run: gene@coyote:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/firefox
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 41 Apr  2 04:03 /usr/bin/firefox -
 /home/gene/bin/firefox-37/firefox/firefox Which is correct.
 But First try it like the renamed script does it:
 gene@coyote:~$ firefox $@
 bash: /usr/bin/firefox: No such file or directory
 Then try w/o the argument.
 gene@coyote:~$ firefox
 bash: /usr/bin/firefox: No such file or directory

 Its 5am, and I don't seem to have even one eye open
 simultaineously...

 The firefox binary itself
 gene@coyote:~$ ls -l bin/firefox-37/firefox/firefox
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 gene gene 147776 Mar 26 23:51
 bin/firefox-37/firefox/firefox
   
Often, in this situation, it's not the file you're thinking of
which doesn't exist. When executing a binary file, the kernel
will return the same error (ENOENT) for all files necessary to
start the binary. In other words, you can't immediately tell if
it's the binary which doesn't exist, or the libraries it's
linked to.
   
So, as you know the binary exists, run ldd /usr/bin/firefox to
see which libraries it's linked against and see if they all
exist.
  
   gene@coyote:~/bin/firefox-37/firefox$ sudo ldd /usr/bin/firefox
   [sudo] password for gene:
 not a dynamic executable
 
  Run it on the binary itself, not the symlink.
 
  Petter
 
 And it still claims not an executable.
 
 Does using squeeze to unpack a tarball screw things up this bad

No idea, never used it.

Try these:

petter@monster:~/Downloads$ md5sum firefox-37.0.tar.bz2 
765710c0930898ab09084b4f96186bb0  firefox-37.0.tar.bz2

petter@monster:~/Downloads$ tar xfj firefox-37.0.tar.bz2  cd firefox
petter@monster:~/Downloads/firefox$ file firefox
firefox: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV),
dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18,
BuildID[sha1]=072ec5d969782a2391d9e60bbb126a541d606836, stripped

petter@monster:~/Downloads/firefox$ md5sum firefox
b94cb23b2c05f08bca64cde6696001c9  firefox

petter@monster:~/Downloads/firefox$ ls -l firefox
-rwxr-xr-x 1 petter petter 147776 mars  27 04:51 firefox

petter@monster:~/Downloads/firefox$ ldd firefox
linux-vdso.so.1 = (0x7ffcfabd4000)
libpthread.so.0 = /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
 (0x7f281ae5)
libdl.so.2 = /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2
 (0x7f281ac4c000)
librt.so.1 = /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/librt.so.1
 (0x7f281aa43000)
libstdc++.so.6 = /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6
 (0x7f281a734000)
libm.so.6 = /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6
 (0x7f281a42c000)
libgcc_s.so.1 = /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1
 (0x7f281a215000)
libc.so.6 = /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
 (0x7f2819e4b000)
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x7f281b091000)

And see what you get. Note that this isn't a Debian machine, so you
won't get the same library versions, but they should be similar. If
you have the same version of FF that I dl'ed, then the md5sums should
be identical. Otherwise, something is corrupted.

 And iceweasel has recovered.  No history but prefs are intact 

Didn't you start this thread by saying you deleted your history? :)

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Re: Xorg -configure fails with created screens does not match number of detected devices

Op Thu, 02 Apr 2015 12:32:48 +0200 schreef venkat  
venka...@vortexindia.co.in:




Looks good. The right driver is used.

Add a Screen and Monitor selection to the Xorg.conf

Section Screen
 Identifier Screen0
 Device gma500_gfx
 Monitor Monitor0
EndSection

Section Monitor
 Identifier Monitor0
 VendorName Monitor Vendor
 ModelName Monitor Model
EndSection



The system boots but when GDM starts i just see a blank screen..



Switch back to tty1, kill gdm and start the X server with startx





Yes i tried that and i get an error: no screens found

[21.958] (II) Loading  
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/modesetting_drv.so

[21.959] (II) Module modesetting: vendor=X.Org Foundation
[21.959] compiled for 1.12.1.902, module version = 0.3.0
[21.959] Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[21.959] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 12.0
[21.959] (II) modesetting: Driver for Modesetting Kernel Drivers: kms
[21.959] (++) using VT number 8

[21.967] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for modesetting
[21.967] (II) UnloadModule: modesetting
[21.967] (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[21.967]Fatal server error:
[21.967] no screens found
[21.967]Please consult the The X.Org Foundation supportat  
http://wiki.x.org

for help.

There are a lot of trial and error stories about the gma500 module.
An other possible solution. add
Option IgnoreACPI yes
to the device section of your xorg.conf
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=533450

Success,

floris

Re: [OT] tamaño diferente al listar por sftp

El Wed, 01 Apr 2015 20:19:26 -0600, petrohs el compa obrero escribió:

 Tengo un escenario en donde el mismo archivo al ser listado vía sftp me
 da diferente tamaño
 
 Tengo un archivo 
 ls -l CDR_MX01_03312015223002_03524.dat 
 -rw-rw-r--   1 mzadminusers  4617158 Apr  1 18:28 
 CDR_MX01_03312015223002_03524.dat
 
 Se lista el archivo por sftp usando comodines 
 echo ls -l /outgoing/cdr/CDR_MX01_03312015*.dat | sftp 
 u...@sftp.example.com | grep CDR_MX01_03312015223002_03524.dat
 -rw-rw-r--0 1001 1001   114525 Mar 31 04:00 
 /outgoing/cdr/CDR_MX01_03312015223002_03524.dat
 
 Se lista el mismo archivo directamente 
 echo ls -l /outgoing/cdr/CDR_MX01_03312015223002_03524.dat | sftp 
 u...@sftp.example.com 
 sftp ls -l /outgoing/cdr/CDR_MX01_03312015223002_03524.dat 
 -rw-rw-r--0 10011001  4617158 Mar 31 17:30 
 /outgoing/cdr/CDR_MX01_03312015223002_03524.dat

¿Has probado con otro archivo para ver si te pasa lo mismo?

 ¿Me podrían orientar en donde configurar para que me den los tamaños
 idénticos al consultar por comodín?

(...)

A mí no me sucede eso (en ambos casos devuelve el mismo tamaño):

sm01@stt008:~$ echo ls -l /home/sm02/Escritorio/aviso.odt | sftp 
sm02@192.168.0.5
sm02@192.168.0.5's password: 
Connected to 192.168.0.5.
sftp ls -l /home/sm02/Escritorio/aviso.odt
-rw-r--r--0 1000 100 10124 May  7  2009 
/home/sm02/Escritorio/aviso.odt

sm01@stt008:~$ echo ls -l /home/sm02/Escritorio/avi*.odt | sftp 
sm02@192.168.0.5
sm02@192.168.0.5's password: 
Connected to 192.168.0.5.
sftp ls -l /home/sm02/Escritorio/avi*.odt
-rw-r--r--0 1000 100 10124 May  7  2009 
/home/sm02/Escritorio/aviso.odt

Pero comprueba lo que te dice Juan, ya que los archivos tienen hasta 3 
fechas de modificación distintas.

Saludos,

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Re: Trinity-kmail ininstallable et synchronisation des mails : résolu

2015-04-02 Thread andre_debian

On Wednesday 01 April 2015 08:55:02 mireero wrote:
 On 03/31/2015 11:10 PM, andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote:
  Sous mon PC portable, je suis passé à Jessie.
  Je recommande le bureau Trinity Desktop Environment = TDE,
  qui semble reprendre son développement :
  www.trinitydesktop.org
  (il s'agit d'un remake de Kde 3.5, bureau beaucoup plus léger que Kde
  4, tout en étant sophistiqué et complet).
  Il y a même une version pour Jessie.
  Cependant, un paquet ne s'installe pas du tout : trinity-kmail,
  problème de librairies ininstallables.
  (Bug ? et si vous avez une idée...= bienvenue !)
  C'est dommage, car du coup je ne peux plus synchroniser
  mes mails entre mes trois PC sous Debian.
  André

 Salut,
 Ne peux tu point rester avec rsync (après, le MUA c'est une affaire de
 goût, cela dit les réponses m'intéressent, j'en ai un peu marre de
 thunderbird)?  Et imap, ça va pas?  mireero

Résolu :
les paquets trinity-TDE utilisés sont en testing.
Il faut utiliser ceux-ci, pour Jessie :
deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb jessie deps-r14 main-r14
(/etc/sources.list)  et tout baigne !

Encore une fois, je me permets de conseiller vivement
le bureau TDE (remake de KDE 3.5), à la fois léger et puissant,
et maintenu par une nouvelle équipe :
https://www.trinitydesktop.org/

Quant à Kmail-Trinity, il me convient bien, si je le compare à 
Icedove (Thunderbird), Claws-mail, Evolution...

André

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Re: Debian and FQDN lookup

2015-04-02 Thread Reco

 Hi.

On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 14:54:19 +0200
Alex Mestiashvili a...@biotec.tu-dresden.de wrote:

 the mechanism is described here:
 
   http://sources.debian.net/src/hostname/3.15/hostname.c/
 
 and as far as I see it simply asks the DNS about the hostname using 
 getaddrinfo.

But, with stock nsswitch.conf, it issues uname(2) syscall first, goes
to /etc/hosts second, and if it encounters FQDN hostname - it all ends
here.
If /etc/hosts contain only bare hostname - it'd return a bare hostname.

Only if /etc/hosts does not contain a hostname - a DNS search will be
performed (or other resolving method, all according to nsswitch.conf).

 On my system the --fqdn flag doesn't work if my /etc/resolv.conf 
 doesn't have domain mydomain or search mydomain option enabled.

Or it's because you have a bare hostname in /etc/hosts ;)

 You can see it with strace hostname --fqdn.

All this invaluable information above was provided you by strace :)

Reco


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Re: firefox-37, where to put



On Thursday 02 April 2015 09:28:13 The Wanderer wrote:
 On 04/02/2015 at 09:24 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
  On Thursday 02 April 2015 08:23:32 Petter Adsen wrote:
  On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 08:08:49 -0400
 
  gene@coyote:~/bin/firefox-37/firefox$ sudo ldd /usr/bin/firefox
  [sudo] password for gene:
not a dynamic executable
 
  Run it on the binary itself, not the symlink.
 
  Petter
 
  And it still claims not an executable.

 Check it with 'file' to make doubly-sure sure it's not another symlink
 (or a script).

This is nucking futs:
gene@coyote:~/bin/firefox-37/firefox$ file firefox
firefox: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically 
linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, 
BuildID[sha1]=0xd9c52e07232a78690be6d991546a12bb3668601d, stripped

For GNU Linux-2.6.18? And I'm running 3.2.0-4amd64? Itself what, 2 years 
old? What the hell are the chances for that being compatible when its 
well north of 6 years old?  My CNC machinery is running Ubuntu-10.04-4 
LTS with kernel 2.6.32-122-rtai, 5 years old this month.

This could drive me to drink, except I'm a DM-II and that means one a day 
max if I want to keep my feet for a while yet...

  Does using squeeze to unpack a tarball screw things up this bad

 Certainly not.

Thats the answer I was hoping for.

Thanks Wanderer.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order.
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Re: [solved securely now??] What is the correct way to set encrypted swap with systemd?

2015-04-02 Thread David Wright

Quoting Paul E Condon (pecon...@mesanetworks.net):
 I read the prior discussion as taking for granted the idea that one
 must have only one method of identifying individual partitions,

If you're referring to my post (which you quoted), then the opposite
is true. The opening paragraphs argues against LABELs as a panacea,
but later ones (and another posting in this thread) reveal that I use
them routinely in what are the right circumstances for me.

(With top-posting, it can be difficult to tell precisely what you're
commenting on.)

 and
 that that method must be the latest to have arrived on the scene. For
 example, if everyone else in the world accepts your idea that
 LABEL=sda1 on the partition that was /dev/sda1 when Debian was
 installed is something that should *not*be*done*, *then* I can be very
 confident that my disk will not cause problems *because*of*an*identity*
 *clash*.

That may be true for you personally, but your idea scales up to just
one computer. I have several. So do many others. Any time your LABEL is
correct, it's redundant, and when it's made incorrect by changing
circumstances, it's confusing.

 The whole scenario is false anyway. Who would let a disk
 arrives at his facility in the hands of a stranger be *mount*ed
 without first putting it in a USB disk carrier and using some system
 tools to take a look at what is recorded on it?  And why would I offer
 my disk to anyone without *telling* them how it is labeled?

Facility? Stranger? In my post I suggested that any one person, who
had taken your advice and LABELled their root partition as sda1,
might take said drive out of that computer and put it into another one
of theirs, whereupon /dev/disk/by-label will have an entry like this:

/dev/disk/by-label:
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Mar 31 13:44 sda1 - ../../sdb1

Confusing, unnecessary, avoidable.

 I see the argument here, mine as well as yours, as a clash of wildly
 imaginative false scenarios. 

Summarising: names/labels are important. Advising sda1 as a LABEL is
not a good idea.

If you want a reference, take a look at RFC1178, page 2:
Don't overload other terms already in common use.

Cheers,
David.


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Re: problema systemd y livecd