Re: Re: Re: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache AGE (incubating) version 0.6.0

[Josh Innis]

Hi All,

I am closing this vote. We will announce the results shortly.
We create value for our clients by connecting the world's data.
Josh Innis Software Engineer
Core R Team
*P*: (831)278-0327
3945 Freedom Circle #260, Santa Clara, CA 95054

bitnine.net


On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 2:32 PM Josh Innis  wrote:

>
> What would be the definition of minor modification? AGE in general tries
> to conform to the ideas in Postgres as much as possible. Which means we are
> constantly calling Postgres functions to do work and at runtime queries
> will switch between Postgres source code and AGE source code often. When we
> cannot use a Postgres function but want to emulate similar behavior, we use
> that function as a template. For example, the Agtype data type that we use
> is heavily influenced by the JsonB data type in Postgres and the way we
> transform expressions is very close to Postgres. A function might have the
> same logical flow to it, but we need to pass in a different data structure,
> or we might have some special cases that must be handled differently, but
> otherwise is very similar to something in postgres.
>
> On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 2:17 PM Felix Cheung 
> wrote:
>
>> In such case, the inclusion of the license is required.
>>
>> Also, ideally, the 3rd party source code should be retained as separate
>> source files so we could keep the license header on each file. If they are
>> code snippet, then it is a bit of a grey area and we should attribute the
>> source in license (a practice I've seen in other projects)
>>
>> See
>> https://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#3party
>> https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-a
>> "
>> 4. Minor modifications/additions to third-party source files should
>> typically be licensed under the same terms as the rest of the third-party
>> source for convenience.
>>
>> 5. The project's PMC should deal with major modifications/additions to
>> third-party source files on a case-by-case basis."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2021/10/13 20:44:15 Josh Innis wrote:
>> > We resigned the files using an @apache.org account. There is source
>> code
>> > from Postgres in AGE. There are no files but there are some snippets.
>> > We create value for our clients by connecting the world's data.
>> > Josh Innis Software Engineer
>> > Core R Team
>> > *P*: (831)278-0327
>> > 3945 Freedom Circle #260, Santa Clara, CA 95054
>> > <
>>
>> https://www.google.com/maps/place/3945+Freedom+Cir+%23260,+Santa+Clara,+CA+95054/
>> >
>> > bitnine.net
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 5:28 PM Felix Cheung  wrote:
>> >
>> > > There bundle also applies to the source release. However, if you are
>> > > certain none of the source code file or snippet is from the Postgres
>> code
>> > > base, then, correct, you don’t need to include Postgres license info.
>> > >
>> > > You might want to amend the license and notice, and re-sign with a key
>> with
>> > > @apache.org address from my comments earlier.
>> > >
>> > > I’m not sure if it will be flagged at IPMC, but it is best since you
>> have
>> > > changed the disclaimer in this release.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 2021/10/05 16:54:29 Josh Innis wrote:
>> > > > Hi Felix,
>> > > >
>> > > > We do not have any binary code from Postgres. The key phrase I saw
>> was "
>> > > > LICENSE and NOTICE need only be modified to accommodate them *only
>> if
>> > > their
>> > > > bits are bundled*." The Apache AGE repository does not have any
>> binary
>> > > > source files in it. After reading the links you sent, it appears we
>> do
>> > > not
>> > > > have to keep the Postgres license info in NOTICE and LICENSE.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 12:11 PM Felix Cheung 
>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Checking this release, not a blocker but a question:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > - incubating in name
>> > > > >
>> > > > > - signature and hash fine
>> > > > >
>> > > > > KEYS file - you should try to sign files with @apache.org issuer
>> email
>> > > > >
>> > > > > - DISCLAIMER is fine
>> > > > >
>> > > > > - LICENSE and NOTICE
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The PostgreSQL license - is it because of code file taken from the
>> > > project
>> > > > > (and then is there license header for these files?)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > If it is not coming from code file, then is it because of a binary
>> > > > > dependency? If so, it should be in a separate LICENSE-binary file
>> like
>> > > > > https://github.com/apache/iotdb/blob/master/LICENSE-binary
>> > > > >
>> > > > > And potentially the license should be separately stored like
>> > > > > https://github.com/apache/iotdb/tree/master/licenses
>> > > > >
>> > > > > more info:
>> > > > >
>> https://infra.apache.org/licensing-howto.html#bundled-vs-non-bundled
>> > > > >
>> > > > > - No unexpected binary files
>> > > > > - All source files have ASF headers
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On 2021/09/24 11:34:24 Kevin Ratnasekera 

Re: Re: Re: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache AGE (incubating) version 0.6.0

[Josh Innis]

What would be the definition of minor modification? AGE in general tries to
conform to the ideas in Postgres as much as possible. Which means we are
constantly calling Postgres functions to do work and at runtime queries
will switch between Postgres source code and AGE source code often. When we
cannot use a Postgres function but want to emulate similar behavior, we use
that function as a template. For example, the Agtype data type that we use
is heavily influenced by the JsonB data type in Postgres and the way we
transform expressions is very close to Postgres. A function might have the
same logical flow to it, but we need to pass in a different data structure,
or we might have some special cases that must be handled differently, but
otherwise is very similar to something in postgres.

On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 2:17 PM Felix Cheung  wrote:

> In such case, the inclusion of the license is required.
>
> Also, ideally, the 3rd party source code should be retained as separate
> source files so we could keep the license header on each file. If they are
> code snippet, then it is a bit of a grey area and we should attribute the
> source in license (a practice I've seen in other projects)
>
> See
> https://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#3party
> https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-a
> "
> 4. Minor modifications/additions to third-party source files should
> typically be licensed under the same terms as the rest of the third-party
> source for convenience.
>
> 5. The project's PMC should deal with major modifications/additions to
> third-party source files on a case-by-case basis."
>
>
>
>
> On 2021/10/13 20:44:15 Josh Innis wrote:
> > We resigned the files using an @apache.org account. There is source code
> > from Postgres in AGE. There are no files but there are some snippets.
> > We create value for our clients by connecting the world's data.
> > Josh Innis Software Engineer
> > Core R Team
> > *P*: (831)278-0327
> > 3945 Freedom Circle #260, Santa Clara, CA 95054
> > <
>
> https://www.google.com/maps/place/3945+Freedom+Cir+%23260,+Santa+Clara,+CA+95054/
> >
> > bitnine.net
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 5:28 PM Felix Cheung  wrote:
> >
> > > There bundle also applies to the source release. However, if you are
> > > certain none of the source code file or snippet is from the Postgres
> code
> > > base, then, correct, you don’t need to include Postgres license info.
> > >
> > > You might want to amend the license and notice, and re-sign with a key
> with
> > > @apache.org address from my comments earlier.
> > >
> > > I’m not sure if it will be flagged at IPMC, but it is best since you
> have
> > > changed the disclaimer in this release.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2021/10/05 16:54:29 Josh Innis wrote:
> > > > Hi Felix,
> > > >
> > > > We do not have any binary code from Postgres. The key phrase I saw
> was "
> > > > LICENSE and NOTICE need only be modified to accommodate them *only if
> > > their
> > > > bits are bundled*." The Apache AGE repository does not have any
> binary
> > > > source files in it. After reading the links you sent, it appears we
> do
> > > not
> > > > have to keep the Postgres license info in NOTICE and LICENSE.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 12:11 PM Felix Cheung 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Checking this release, not a blocker but a question:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > - incubating in name
> > > > >
> > > > > - signature and hash fine
> > > > >
> > > > > KEYS file - you should try to sign files with @apache.org issuer
> email
> > > > >
> > > > > - DISCLAIMER is fine
> > > > >
> > > > > - LICENSE and NOTICE
> > > > >
> > > > > The PostgreSQL license - is it because of code file taken from the
> > > project
> > > > > (and then is there license header for these files?)
> > > > >
> > > > > If it is not coming from code file, then is it because of a binary
> > > > > dependency? If so, it should be in a separate LICENSE-binary file
> like
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/iotdb/blob/master/LICENSE-binary
> > > > >
> > > > > And potentially the license should be separately stored like
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/iotdb/tree/master/licenses
> > > > >
> > > > > more info:
> > > > >
> https://infra.apache.org/licensing-howto.html#bundled-vs-non-bundled
> > > > >
> > > > > - No unexpected binary files
> > > > > - All source files have ASF headers
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2021/09/24 11:34:24 Kevin Ratnasekera wrote:
> > > > > > +1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I checked the following.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Incubating in name.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - PGP Signatures.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - SHA512 Checksums.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - DISCLAIMER exists.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - LICENSE and NOTICE are fine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - ASF headers on source files.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kevin
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 8:52 PM Eya Badal 
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > 

RE: Re: Re: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache AGE (incubating) version 0.6.0

[Felix Cheung]

In such case, the inclusion of the license is required.

Also, ideally, the 3rd party source code should be retained as separate
source files so we could keep the license header on each file. If they are
code snippet, then it is a bit of a grey area and we should attribute the
source in license (a practice I've seen in other projects)

See
https://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#3party
https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-a
"
4. Minor modifications/additions to third-party source files should
typically be licensed under the same terms as the rest of the third-party
source for convenience.

5. The project's PMC should deal with major modifications/additions to
third-party source files on a case-by-case basis."




On 2021/10/13 20:44:15 Josh Innis wrote:
> We resigned the files using an @apache.org account. There is source code
> from Postgres in AGE. There are no files but there are some snippets.
> We create value for our clients by connecting the world's data.
> Josh Innis Software Engineer
> Core R Team
> *P*: (831)278-0327
> 3945 Freedom Circle #260, Santa Clara, CA 95054
> <
https://www.google.com/maps/place/3945+Freedom+Cir+%23260,+Santa+Clara,+CA+95054/
>
> bitnine.net
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 5:28 PM Felix Cheung  wrote:
>
> > There bundle also applies to the source release. However, if you are
> > certain none of the source code file or snippet is from the Postgres
code
> > base, then, correct, you don’t need to include Postgres license info.
> >
> > You might want to amend the license and notice, and re-sign with a key
with
> > @apache.org address from my comments earlier.
> >
> > I’m not sure if it will be flagged at IPMC, but it is best since you
have
> > changed the disclaimer in this release.
> >
> >
> > On 2021/10/05 16:54:29 Josh Innis wrote:
> > > Hi Felix,
> > >
> > > We do not have any binary code from Postgres. The key phrase I saw
was "
> > > LICENSE and NOTICE need only be modified to accommodate them *only if
> > their
> > > bits are bundled*." The Apache AGE repository does not have any binary
> > > source files in it. After reading the links you sent, it appears we do
> > not
> > > have to keep the Postgres license info in NOTICE and LICENSE.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 12:11 PM Felix Cheung  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Checking this release, not a blocker but a question:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > - incubating in name
> > > >
> > > > - signature and hash fine
> > > >
> > > > KEYS file - you should try to sign files with @apache.org issuer
email
> > > >
> > > > - DISCLAIMER is fine
> > > >
> > > > - LICENSE and NOTICE
> > > >
> > > > The PostgreSQL license - is it because of code file taken from the
> > project
> > > > (and then is there license header for these files?)
> > > >
> > > > If it is not coming from code file, then is it because of a binary
> > > > dependency? If so, it should be in a separate LICENSE-binary file
like
> > > > https://github.com/apache/iotdb/blob/master/LICENSE-binary
> > > >
> > > > And potentially the license should be separately stored like
> > > > https://github.com/apache/iotdb/tree/master/licenses
> > > >
> > > > more info:
> > > > https://infra.apache.org/licensing-howto.html#bundled-vs-non-bundled
> > > >
> > > > - No unexpected binary files
> > > > - All source files have ASF headers
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 2021/09/24 11:34:24 Kevin Ratnasekera wrote:
> > > > > +1
> > > > >
> > > > > I checked the following.
> > > > >
> > > > > - Incubating in name.
> > > > >
> > > > > - PGP Signatures.
> > > > >
> > > > > - SHA512 Checksums.
> > > > >
> > > > > - DISCLAIMER exists.
> > > > >
> > > > > - LICENSE and NOTICE are fine.
> > > > >
> > > > > - ASF headers on source files.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > >
> > > > > Kevin
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 8:52 PM Eya Badal 
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > +1, I checked the follwoing:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > x] Download links are valid.
> > > > > > [x] Checksums and PGP signatures are valid.
> > > > > > [x] LICENSE, NOTICE and DISCLAIMER files are correct.
> > > > > > [x] All files have license headers if necessary.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > Eya Badal Abdisho
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 2021/09/15 16:11:47, Josh Innis  wrote:
> > > > > > > Dear Apache Community,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache AGE
> > > > version
> > > > > > 0.6.0
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The vote is open now and until September 18th at 10:30 AM PST
and
> > > > passes
> > > > > > if
> > > > > > > a majority +1 votes are cast, with a minimum of 3 +1 votes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache AGE 0.6.0
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [ ] -1 Do not release this package because ...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To learn more about Apache AGE, please see
> > http://age.apache.org/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
>