Re: [digitalradio] Mobile CW
Hal/Tony, I wonder if the serious CW mobile operators might invent some CW sending capability from there steering wheels ? Since one's hands are on the sterring wheel most of the time some thumb sending might work. Andy That would be much more convenient Andy. The only problem is having to pause when making sharp turns; not an issue on the highway. Patrick remembed reading about a ham who used a specialized set of false teeth to send code! Can you imagine the looks he got with a wire hanging out of his mouth while his jaw was chattering away to 73 : ) Gotta give him credit though, that's one way to go hands-free! Tony -K2MO On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 5:00 AM, Tony d...@optonline.net mailto:DXDX%40optonline.net wrote: On 5/21/2010 4:28 AM, Hal Stang wrote: Thanks Tony I appreciate. And will let you know when I am on the Road LOL. I worked mobile CW for years. LOL. 73, thanks for your time. Hal WD4MDA Me too Hal! I used to take along a Bulldog mini paddle http://www.amateurradioproducts.com/ and use it with the Icom 706. The built-in keyer works well once you tweak it a bit. Lots of fun, but a good size bump in the road can really scramble your sending for a moment, especially with the Econo-box I drove hi. Hope to work you ALE-400 /M. That would be a first for me! Tony -K2MO - Original Message - From: Tonyd...@optonline.net mailto:DXDX%40optonline.net To:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 3:53 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Speech-to-Text for the Handicapped On 5/21/2010 3:28 AM, Hal Stang wrote: All, I am setting up my mobile rig again(icom 706/High Sierra Screwdriver/Ameritron amp). I wonder if you could run ALE400 or other digital modes from the mobile using speech recognition software??? Hal WD4MDA Hal, Skip Teller can answer your questions - see the thread on this subject. Tony -K2MO PS: Let us know when you're on the road. - Original Message - From: Tonyd...@optonline.net mailto:DXDX%40optonline.net To:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 6:41 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Speech-to-Text for the Handicapped All, Andy brought up the digital mode / text-to-speech idea recently and a thought came to mind that this could help the handicapped. I'm not sure if speech-to-text programs can transfer text to another application right out of the box, but assuming they did, there would still be the need for voice commands to control the program. Seems a second sound card may be needed as well; VAC might help. Skip Teller created Digitalk for the blind (thanks Skip) and Patrick wrote an interface for it (thank you Patrick) so the programs can talk. Andy's speech-to-text idea would complete the package. It's easy to suggest something like this while standing on the shoulders of experts like Patrick and Skip; I can only imagine what it takes to write the code. Just a thought. Tony -K2MO __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5136 (20100521) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
Re: [digitalradio] Mobile CW
I don't think we should encourage texting or CW while driving! All attention needs to be your driving. Driving is dangerous enough even with full attention. Pull over to the side of the road and text or CW please. We don't need another silent key. K5WGM --- On Sun, 5/23/10, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote: From: Tony d...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Mobile CW To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 3:14 AM Hal/Tony, I wonder if the serious CW mobile operators might invent some CW sending capability from there steering wheels ? Since one's hands are on the sterring wheel most of the time some thumb sending might work. Andy That would be much more convenient Andy. The only problem is having to pause when making sharp turns; not an issue on the highway. Patrick remembed reading about a ham who used a specialized set of false teeth to send code! Can you imagine the looks he got with a wire hanging out of his mouth while his jaw was chattering away to 73 : ) Gotta give him credit though, that's one way to go hands-free! Tony -K2MO On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 5:00 AM, Tony d...@optonline. net wrote: On 5/21/2010 4:28 AM, Hal Stang wrote: Thanks Tony I appreciate. And will let you know when I am on the Road LOL. I worked mobile CW for years. LOL. 73, thanks for your time. Hal WD4MDA Me too Hal! I used to take along a Bulldog mini paddle http://www.amateurr adioproducts. com/ and use it with the Icom 706. The built-in keyer works well once you tweak it a bit. Lots of fun, but a good size bump in the road can really scramble your sending for a moment, especially with the Econo-box I drove hi. Hope to work you ALE-400 /M. That would be a first for me! Tony -K2MO - Original Message - From: Tonyd...@optonline. net To:digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 3:53 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Speech-to-Text for the Handicapped On 5/21/2010 3:28 AM, Hal Stang wrote: All, I am setting up my mobile rig again(icom 706/High Sierra Screwdriver/ Ameritron amp). I wonder if you could run ALE400 or other digital modes from the mobile using speech recognition software??? Hal WD4MDA Hal, Skip Teller can answer your questions - see the thread on this subject. Tony -K2MO PS: Let us know when you're on the road. - Original Message - From: Tonyd...@optonline. net To:digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 6:41 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Speech-to-Text for the Handicapped All, Andy brought up the digital mode / text-to-speech idea recently and a thought came to mind that this could help the handicapped. I'm not sure if speech-to-text programs can transfer text to another application right out of the box, but assuming they did, there would still be the need for voice commands to control the program. Seems a second sound card may be needed as well; VAC might help. Skip Teller created Digitalk for the blind (thanks Skip) and Patrick wrote an interface for it (thank you Patrick) so the programs can talk. Andy's speech-to-text idea would complete the package. It's easy to suggest something like this while standing on the shoulders of experts like Patrick and Skip; I can only imagine what it takes to write the code. Just a thought. Tony -K2MO - - -- __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5136 (20100521) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset. com
Re: [digitalradio] Mobile CW
On 23-May-10 05:14, Tony wrote: That would be much more convenient Andy. The only problem is having to pause when making sharp turns; not an issue on the highway. Patrick remembed reading about a ham who used a specialized set of false teeth to send code! Can you imagine the looks he got with a wire hanging out of his mouth while his jaw was chattering away to 73 : ) Gotta give him credit though, that's one way to go hands-free! Tony -K2MO In my opinion, it is a recipe for disaster. I wouldn't want to be on the same highway of him. It is the same thing of using cellphones when driving. In my country it is forbidden. Mark Jordan PY3SS
Re: [digitalradio] Mobile CW
I don't think we should encourage texting or CW while driving! All attention needs to be your driving. Driving is dangerous enough even with full attention. Pull over to the side of the road and text or CW please. We don't need another silent key. Mark / Jordan I certainly appreciate your concerns and we wouldn't want to encouraging anyone to do something that was unsafe. In my experience, operating CW mobile is as safe as running SSB in the car or chatting on the local VHF repeater as many do. While any distraction like fiddling with the car radio is potentially dangerous, I think cell phone texting, where one takes both hands off the wheel and eyes off the road is in a category all by itself. Again, I didn't intend to encourage anyone, we were just discussing the fact that some ops can successfully operate CW mobile. Thanks for mentioning the safety issues and to others - please don't try this yourself. Tony -K2MO
[digitalradio] Mobile CW
Hal/Tony, I wonder if the serious CW mobile operators might invent some CW sending capability from there steering wheels ? Since one's hands are on the sterring wheel most of the time some thumb sending might work. Andy On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 5:00 AM, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote: On 5/21/2010 4:28 AM, Hal Stang wrote: Thanks Tony I appreciate. And will let you know when I am on the Road LOL. I worked mobile CW for years. LOL. 73, thanks for your time. Hal WD4MDA Me too Hal! I used to take along a Bulldog mini paddle http://www.amateurradioproducts.com/ and use it with the Icom 706. The built-in keyer works well once you tweak it a bit. Lots of fun, but a good size bump in the road can really scramble your sending for a moment, especially with the Econo-box I drove hi. Hope to work you ALE-400 /M. That would be a first for me! Tony -K2MO - Original Message - From: Tonyd...@optonline.net To:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 3:53 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Speech-to-Text for the Handicapped On 5/21/2010 3:28 AM, Hal Stang wrote: All, I am setting up my mobile rig again(icom 706/High Sierra Screwdriver/Ameritron amp). I wonder if you could run ALE400 or other digital modes from the mobile using speech recognition software??? Hal WD4MDA Hal, Skip Teller can answer your questions - see the thread on this subject. Tony -K2MO PS: Let us know when you're on the road. - Original Message - From: Tonyd...@optonline.net To:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 6:41 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Speech-to-Text for the Handicapped All, Andy brought up the digital mode / text-to-speech idea recently and a thought came to mind that this could help the handicapped. I'm not sure if speech-to-text programs can transfer text to another application right out of the box, but assuming they did, there would still be the need for voice commands to control the program. Seems a second sound card may be needed as well; VAC might help. Skip Teller created Digitalk for the blind (thanks Skip) and Patrick wrote an interface for it (thank you Patrick) so the programs can talk. Andy's speech-to-text idea would complete the package. It's easy to suggest something like this while standing on the shoulders of experts like Patrick and Skip; I can only imagine what it takes to write the code. Just a thought. Tony -K2MO
RE: [digitalradio] Mobile CW
I found one really good place to put a paddle; between the seats under the hand-brake lever, for cars that have that setup. I've considered the shift lever -- if that's on the floor -- so one may rest his hand on the control and still reach down for keying. I would not think the steering wheel acceptable doe to large displacement during driving and the need to grasp it securely, which could cause undesired keying. Firm hand support is almost essential to prevent hand motions due to bumps, curves, etc. I've also had some decent results mounting a paddle or key on a pedestal structure between seats, but one's hand needs to fall naturally into place and not require stretching or an unnatural posture, **especially when driving!** But that option does take one hand off driving controls. Pilots have a multipurpose grip on the control stick to avoid problems like these and one of those adapted to the shifter might be ideal.. These are shaped so as to permit contact while retaining a good grip on the control column but yet not press switches inadvertently --there are FIRING switches on military aircraft! Be aware that many consider CW while driving a dangerous practice and prepare to accept flames for suggesting it. Or worse: a recently adopted NJ law on electronics while driving even prohibits LISTENING to a communications device. Digital connection: A CW to ASCII converter could allow digital operation without a display to take ones eyes off the road or a keyboard to take one's hands off the controls. Cortland KA5S [Original Message] From: Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/21/2010 5:58:09 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Mobile CW Hal/Tony, I wonder if the serious CW mobile operators might invent some CW sending capability from there steering wheels ? Since one's hands are on the sterring wheel most of the time some thumb sending might work. Andy On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 5:00 AM, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote: On 5/21/2010 4:28 AM, Hal Stang wrote: Thanks Tony I appreciate. And will let you know when I am on the Road LOL. I worked mobile CW for years. LOL. 73, thanks for your time. Hal WD4MDA http://www.obriensweb.com/digispotter.html Chat, Skeds, and spots all in one (resize to suit)Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: digitalradio-dig...@yahoogroups.com digitalradio-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digitalradio-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
