[digitalradio] Re: Half Square Antenna

2010-08-25 Thread Thomas
For a good number of years I did allot of experimenting with 1/2 wave inverted 
L's and T's on 160 meters with no ground system and had very good results.

I published a web page about it at http://www.wcflunatall.com/nz4o9.htm 

One night on 160 meters with 100 watts on SSB I got a 10 over S9 report from a 
station in England from here in Florida.

73,
Thomas F. Giella, NZ4O
Lakeland, FL, USA
http://www.nz4o.org 


--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, KH6TY kh...@... wrote:

 Tom, with voltage feed, you only need an electrostatic ground. I used 
 about 10' x 10' of chicken wire for a ground sheet under mine in Hawaii.
 
 73, Skip KH6TY
 
 Thomas wrote:
   
 
  What Andy and Skip said, plus a top corner feed causes a pattern 
  distortion in the broadside that narrows the beam width a bit. A 
  bottom element feed through a parallel network has no pattern 
  distortion but requires ground radials.
 
  However you can put down a very minimal ground radial system compared 
  to a 1/4 wave vertical. I used only one 1/4 wave on mine and it worked 
  fine.
 
  73,
  Thomas NZ4O
  Lakeland, FL, USA
  http://www.nz4o.org
 
  --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, kf4hou kf4hou@ wrote:
  
   Hey Tom
  
   Which is the better way of feeding the Half Square what is the plus 
  and minus of both? Voltage vs. Current Fed
  
  
   
I used a half square on 17 meters in Colorado in 1995 at the 
  bottom of the
sunspot cycle. I voltage fed it with a parallel LC network and one 
  1/4 wave
radial. The flat top phasing line was only 13 feet off of the 
  ground with
the antenna broadside Europe and the Pacific. The results: 100 
  countries in
30 days with 100 watts. A serious DX antenna.
   
I also put up a half square on 160 in Colorado, with the same 
  voltage feed.
I linear loaded each 1/4 wave leg into two each 1/8 wave 64 foot 
  sections
and it worked fantastic. I had a big signal with 100 watts.
   
73  GUD DX,
Thomas F. Giella, NZ4O
Lakeland, FL, USA
nz4o@
   
   
NZ4O Amateur  SWL Autobiography: http://www.nz4o.org
   
  
 
 





[digitalradio] Re: Half Square Antenna

2010-08-24 Thread Thomas
What Andy and Skip said, plus a top corner feed causes a pattern distortion in 
the broadside that narrows the beam width a bit. A bottom element feed through 
a parallel network has no pattern distortion but requires ground radials. 

However you can put down a very minimal ground radial system compared to a 1/4 
wave vertical. I used only one 1/4 wave on mine and it worked fine.

73,
Thomas NZ4O
Lakeland, FL, USA
http://www.nz4o.org 

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, kf4hou kf4...@... wrote:

 Hey Tom
 
 Which is the better way of feeding the Half Square what is the plus and minus 
 of both? Voltage vs. Current Fed 
 
 
 
  I used a half square on 17 meters in Colorado in 1995 at the bottom of the 
  sunspot cycle. I voltage fed it with a parallel LC network and one 1/4 wave 
  radial. The flat top phasing line was only 13 feet off of the ground with 
  the antenna broadside Europe and the Pacific. The results: 100 countries in 
  30 days with 100 watts. A serious DX antenna.
  
  I also put up a half square on 160 in Colorado, with the same voltage feed. 
  I linear loaded each 1/4 wave leg into two each 1/8 wave 64 foot sections 
  and it worked fantastic. I had a big signal with 100 watts.
  
  73  GUD DX,
  Thomas F. Giella, NZ4O
  Lakeland, FL, USA
  nz4o@
  
  
  NZ4O Amateur  SWL Autobiography: http://www.nz4o.org
 





Re: [digitalradio] Re: Half Square Antenna

2010-08-24 Thread KH6TY
Tom, with voltage feed, you only need an electrostatic ground. I used 
about 10' x 10' of chicken wire for a ground sheet under mine in Hawaii.


73, Skip KH6TY

Thomas wrote:
 

What Andy and Skip said, plus a top corner feed causes a pattern 
distortion in the broadside that narrows the beam width a bit. A 
bottom element feed through a parallel network has no pattern 
distortion but requires ground radials.


However you can put down a very minimal ground radial system compared 
to a 1/4 wave vertical. I used only one 1/4 wave on mine and it worked 
fine.


73,
Thomas NZ4O
Lakeland, FL, USA
http://www.nz4o.org

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, kf4hou kf4...@... wrote:


 Hey Tom

 Which is the better way of feeding the Half Square what is the plus 
and minus of both? Voltage vs. Current Fed



 
  I used a half square on 17 meters in Colorado in 1995 at the 
bottom of the
  sunspot cycle. I voltage fed it with a parallel LC network and one 
1/4 wave
  radial. The flat top phasing line was only 13 feet off of the 
ground with
  the antenna broadside Europe and the Pacific. The results: 100 
countries in

  30 days with 100 watts. A serious DX antenna.
 
  I also put up a half square on 160 in Colorado, with the same 
voltage feed.
  I linear loaded each 1/4 wave leg into two each 1/8 wave 64 foot 
sections

  and it worked fantastic. I had a big signal with 100 watts.
 
  73  GUD DX,
  Thomas F. Giella, NZ4O
  Lakeland, FL, USA
  nz4o@
 
 
  NZ4O Amateur  SWL Autobiography: http://www.nz4o.org
 





[digitalradio] Re: Half Square Antenna

2010-08-23 Thread kf4hou
Hey Tom

Which is the better way of feeding the Half Square what is the plus and minus 
of both? Voltage vs. Current Fed 



 I used a half square on 17 meters in Colorado in 1995 at the bottom of the 
 sunspot cycle. I voltage fed it with a parallel LC network and one 1/4 wave 
 radial. The flat top phasing line was only 13 feet off of the ground with 
 the antenna broadside Europe and the Pacific. The results: 100 countries in 
 30 days with 100 watts. A serious DX antenna.
 
 I also put up a half square on 160 in Colorado, with the same voltage feed. 
 I linear loaded each 1/4 wave leg into two each 1/8 wave 64 foot sections 
 and it worked fantastic. I had a big signal with 100 watts.
 
 73  GUD DX,
 Thomas F. Giella, NZ4O
 Lakeland, FL, USA
 n...@...
 
 
 NZ4O Amateur  SWL Autobiography: http://www.nz4o.org





Re: [digitalradio] Re: Half Square Antenna

2010-08-23 Thread Andy obrien
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 6:29 AM, kf4hou kf4...@hotmail.com wrote:



 Hey Tom

 Which is the better way of feeding the Half Square what is the plus and minus 
 of both? Voltage vs. Current Fed



The antenna may be fed at the bottom or at a corner. When
 fed at a corner, the feed point is a lowimpedance, current-feed. When fed at
the bottom of one of the wires against a  small ground counterpoise, the feed
 point is a high-impedance, voltage-feed.
http://rudys.typepad.com/ant/files/antenna_halfsquare_array.pdf

Andy K3UK


Re: [digitalradio] Re: Half Square Antenna

2010-08-23 Thread KH6TY
For what it's worth, I've done it both ways. With a voltage feed it is 
easy for the coax to leave the antenna on the ground and just use a 
screen for a ground. With current feed at the corners, the coax is up in 
the air and needs to leave at right angles to the vertical wire, but no 
tuned circuit is needed, and no RF ground.


73, Skip KH6TY

kf4hou wrote:
 


Hey Tom

Which is the better way of feeding the Half Square what is the plus 
and minus of both? Voltage vs. Current Fed