Re: [digitalradio] USB - RS232 adapter for Vista 64bit?

2008-05-09 Thread kh6ty
Peter,

A good, but expensive, solution is to get the SignaLink USB interface, which 
has digital VOX built in.

This how I solved the same problem

You can also get a C-media USB Sound Adapter and modify it to bring out a PTT 
line, which is a less expensive approach ( http://www.usbradio.org/usbfob.pdf)


73, Skip KH6TY



Re: [digitalradio] USB - RS232 adapter for Vista 64bit?

2008-05-09 Thread Rick
Hi Peter,

The Prolific company seems to make a very large number of these adapters 
that are then branded with different companies names. The old (large and 
expensive) Radio Shack USB adapter (about $40 here in the U.S.) was from 
this company. I am sure these products are available world wide.

The older adapters may not have new drivers developed for Vista, but 
when I purchased a recent design, that has the electronics built in to 
the 9 pin connector, it came with a mini disk with drivers. This worked 
FB for XP, but when I tried to use it for Vista, the computer would 
reject the attempt to load the disk. I was quite concerned at first, 
until I realized that Vista automatically identifies this product and no 
driver is even needed. One of the nice features of Vista that at least 
some may not be aware.

This adapter cost me around $20 including shipping. I have seen them 
advertised for as low as $12 plus shipping and are much better for 
portability. Some of them may have very short cables, barely over a foot 
long, so for rig control you will likely need a few additional feet of 
extension cable for the RS-232 side.

I think that Linux also supports many of these adapters, but I currently 
removed Linux yet again from my computers as it just can not compete 
with XP for practical use with ham programs, and definitely can not 
compete with Vista when it comes to the highest quality font and image 
rendering on my systems.

Incidentally, I burnedan iso from the new OpenSolaris Live and that 
seemed much better than Linux variants in terms of image quality. Even 
could handle my high end HP tower with Nvidia chipset. But then again, 
the problem is that I could not run my ham software, which is something 
I am really not willing to give up.

73,

Rick, KV9U


Peter Frenning [OZ1PIF] wrote:
 My new LapTop (Zepto 6625WD), like most new ones, has no RS232 port, so, 
 in order to PTT my radio (FT-847 - no VOX!), I need an USB to RS232 
 adapter. The one I have (Belkin F5U103V) has no Vista 64bit support (no 
 drivers available and none planned that I know of). Anybody in similar 
 jam with a tested solution? It wouldn't hurt if was also supported by 
 Ubuntu Linux either.

   



RE: [digitalradio] USB - RS232 adapter for Vista 64bit?

2008-05-09 Thread rojomn


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 -Original Message-
 From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick
 Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:45 AM
 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [digitalradio] USB - RS232 adapter for Vista 64bit?
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 The Prolific company seems to make a very large number of 
 these adapters that are then branded with different companies 
 names. The old (large and
 expensive) Radio Shack USB adapter (about $40 here in the 
 U.S.) was from this company. I am sure these products are 
 available world wide.
 
 The older adapters may not have new drivers developed for 
 Vista, but when I purchased a recent design, that has the 
 electronics built in to the 9 pin connector, it came with a 
 mini disk with drivers. This worked FB for XP, but when I 
 tried to use it for Vista, the computer would reject the 
 attempt to load the disk. I was quite concerned at first, 
 until I realized that Vista automatically identifies this 
 product and no driver is even needed. One of the nice 
 features of Vista that at least some may not be aware.

This is called plug and play and works for XP too. The reason you needed the
disk for XP is that XP had no built in driver or the disk had a newer better
one. MANY devices can be added to an XP system without adding any drivers.

 
 This adapter cost me around $20 including shipping. I have 
 seen them advertised for as low as $12 plus shipping and are 
 much better for portability. Some of them may have very short 
 cables, barely over a foot long, so for rig control you will 
 likely need a few additional feet of extension cable for the 
 RS-232 side.
 
 I think that Linux also supports many of these adapters, but 
 I currently removed Linux yet again from my computers as it 
 just can not compete with XP for practical use with ham 
 programs, and definitely can not compete with Vista when it 
 comes to the highest quality font and image rendering on my systems.
 
 Incidentally, I burnedan iso from the new OpenSolaris Live 
 and that seemed much better than Linux variants in terms of 
 image quality. Even could handle my high end HP tower with 
 Nvidia chipset. But then again, the problem is that I could 
 not run my ham software, which is something I am really not 
 willing to give up.
 
 73,
 
 Rick, KV9U
 
 
 Peter Frenning [OZ1PIF] wrote:
  My new LapTop (Zepto 6625WD), like most new ones, has no 
 RS232 port, so, 
  in order to PTT my radio (FT-847 - no VOX!), I need an USB to RS232 
  adapter. The one I have (Belkin F5U103V) has no Vista 64bit 
 support (no 
  drivers available and none planned that I know of). Anybody 
 in similar 
  jam with a tested solution? It wouldn't hurt if was also 
 supported by 
  Ubuntu Linux either.
 

 
 
 
 
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Re: [digitalradio] USB - RS232 adapter for Vista 64bit?

2008-05-09 Thread Jose A. Amador

Is that Linux or plain old Solaris? Does Wine work with it?

73,

Jose, CO2JA

---

Rick wrote:

 Incidentally, I burned an ISO from the new OpenSolaris Live and that 
 seemed much better than Linux variants in terms of image quality. Even 
 could handle my high end HP tower with Nvidia chipset. But then again, 
 the problem is that I could not run my ham software, which is something 
 I am really not willing to give up.
 
 73,
 
 Rick, KV9U



Re: [digitalradio] USB - RS232 adapter for Vista 64bit?

2008-05-09 Thread Russell Hltn
The Keyspan unit is a bit pricey at $40 list, but it's rated to be
very compatible.  It does have drivers for Vista but only lists
32-bit.  It might be worth asking them about 64 bit compatibility.

It does advertise compatibility with Mac and Linux

http://www.keyspan.com/products/usa19hs/



On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 1:06 AM, Peter Frenning [OZ1PIF]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My new LapTop (Zepto 6625WD), like most new ones, has no RS232 port, so,
 in order to PTT my radio (FT-847 - no VOX!), I need an USB to RS232
 adapter. The one I have (Belkin F5U103V) has no Vista 64bit support (no
 drivers available and none planned that I know of). Anybody in similar
 jam with a tested solution? It wouldn't hurt if was also supported by
 Ubuntu Linux either.

 --
 Vy 73 de OZ1PIF/5Q2M, Peter


Re: [digitalradio] USB - RS232 adapter for Vista 64bit?

2008-05-09 Thread Rick
The understanding that I have is that Open Solaris is Sun's open version 
of Solaris and I think it may be equivalent. It is a Unix System V 
variant of Release 4 and no other System V code is available as open 
software. It is very significant that Ian Murdoch is now a major player 
at Sun. For those who may not know, he is the ian in Debian Linux. His 
wife Debra is the Deb part:)

The ZFS file system is considered pretty good. They have adopted GNOME 
as the desktop so it has the look and feel of Ubuntu and other Linux 
variants that use GNOME. (Personally, I somewhat favor KDE (Kool Desktop 
Environment) but either one would be OK if I could run the software that 
I need to ham radio purposes.

I have read that there have been problems attempting to port WINE to 
Open Solaris, but I really am not knowledgeable to comment on that.

Perhaps other group members may know?

For me, the big surprise was that it was the first Linux/Unix type 
product that could properly drive the Nvidia graphics. No other Linux 
version can do this, and I have tried more than a dozen of them over the 
past few years.

73,

Rick, KV9U


Jose A. Amador wrote:
 Is that Linux or plain old Solaris? Does Wine work with it?

 73,

 Jose, CO2JA

   



Re: [digitalradio] USB - RS232 adapter for Vista 64bit?

2008-05-09 Thread Jose A. Amador

Thank you, Rick. A friend and coworker told me that he achieved to make 
work his Nvidia card with Mandriva. I have not been able so far, using 
Mandriva Spring 2007. Mine is GeForce FX5200. I downloaded the driver 
pack, more than 100 MB. I have not been able to see where is the failure.

Also, my TV tuner card, a NPGtech Teal TV Top 10 (CX23881 based) has 
been a no-no under Linux. Originally a european tuner, I changed the 
ceramic filters (passband and trap) for 4.5 MHz equivalents and works 
quite happily with NTSC-M under XP Pro SP2, but I have not been able to 
make the tuner change channels.

73,

Jose, CO2JA

---

Rick wrote:

 For me, the big surprise was that it was the first Linux/Unix type 
 product that could properly drive the Nvidia graphics. No other Linux 
 version can do this, and I have tried more than a dozen of them over the 
 past few years.
 
 73,
 
 Rick, KV9U