Re: Acroread not working

2006-10-16 Thread Boris Samorodov
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:00:56 +0530 Subhro wrote:

 I have installed acroread from the ports collection. I am running
 FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE. When I am trying to run the same from the
 command line, I am getting quite a few errors. I have pasted the error
 below.

Try to follow the advices at /usr/ports/UPDATING: 20060616: AFFECTS
users of emulation/linux_base-*. If that won't help, let us know.


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Re: libphp4.so not installed from /usr/ports/lang/php4 and mod_php4 is gone??!!

2006-10-16 Thread Joerg Pernfuss
On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:42:24 -0500
Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 But still I get nothing.
 
 Perhaps mod_php is no longer available for FreeBSD 5.4?

Please post the output of:

`pkg_info -L php4-4.4.4`
`cat /var/db/ports/php4/options`

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Re: canary mismatch on efree()

2006-10-16 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2006-10-14 18:27, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I'm running Apache/1.3.37 (Unix) and PHP/4.4.4 with Suhosin-Patch. All of
 a sudden I get this in my log:
 
 [Sat Oct 14 19:54:32 2006] [error] ALERT - canary mismatch on efree() -
 heap overflow or double efree detected (attacker '192.168.1.4', file
 '/www/vhosts/asarian-host.net/htdocs/phpMyAdmin/index.php')
 
 This is not good. If a simple thing like phpMyAdmin causes it, then I will
 have to disable the Suhosin-Patch (which propably means recompiling from
 scratch, right?).

o   What version of FreeBSD are you using?

o   What php-related and apache-related packages have you installed and
what options did you use while installing them?

o   Does this happen only with phpMyAdmin or with other PHP scripts too?


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RE: libphp4.so not installed from /usr/ports/lang/php4 and mod_php4is gone??!!

2006-10-16 Thread Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lane
 Sent: maandag 16 oktober 2006 1:41
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: libphp4.so not installed from 
 /usr/ports/lang/php4 and mod_php4is gone??!!
 
 
   So ... now the question 
  
   How do I get mod_php working again? (with Apache13)
 
  cd /usr/ports/lang/php4
  make config
  (select the Apache module from the menu)
  rebuild/reinstall php.

 Thanks, Bill.
 
 But that does not install libphp4.so.  libphp4.so is not 
 created, or if it is created it has a name OTHER than libphp4.so.

That is odd. I just built the same port myself, only two days ago, and
libphp4.so is most certainly built and installed as:

/usr/local/libexec/apache/libphp4.so

 and then: 
 
 locate mod_php
 
 But still I get nothing.

There's no such file created as mod_php* (even though perhaps confusingly
Apache lists AddModule mod_php4.c in httpd.conf; but that's normal).

 So I compiled the port with -DAPACHE=yes

That shouldn't be necessary. Just make suffices. You could perhaps try:
WITH_APACHE=yes, to ensure it uses 1.3+ as version.

And, to state the obvious, did you try make clean first?

- Mark

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Re: libphp4.so not installed from /usr/ports/lang/php4 and mod_php4 is gone??!!

2006-10-16 Thread Lane
On Monday 16 October 2006 01:56, Joerg Pernfuss wrote:
 On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:42:24 -0500

 Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  But still I get nothing.
 
  Perhaps mod_php is no longer available for FreeBSD 5.4?

 Please post the output of:

   `pkg_info -L php4-4.4.4`
   `cat /var/db/ports/php4/options`

   Joerg
Joerg, Mark, and others:

Apparently the problem is now solved.

I did make deinstall from /usr/ports/lang/php4 then I lost power (meaning the 
computer rebooted).

When the power came back on I (once again) ran make config all install 
from /usr/ports/lang/php4 and voila!  /usr/local/libexec/libphp4.so was 
installed!

I give up.

Thanks for your interest.

lane
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Multi-CPU Question

2006-10-16 Thread Payne

Hi all,

Hello I have a question. I got a box. I got a strange message...

SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched!

Is there a place under /proc that I can see if the first processor still 
working? Do I need to reboot the box, what does that message mean? Why 
does it happen?


Thanks


Payne
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Re: Multi-CPU Question

2006-10-16 Thread Lane
On Monday 16 October 2006 04:01, Payne wrote:
 Hi all,

 Hello I have a question. I got a box. I got a strange message...

 SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched!

 Is there a place under /proc that I can see if the first processor still
 working? Do I need to reboot the box, what does that message mean? Why
 does it happen?

 Thanks


 Payne
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Payne,

I believe CPU #x Launched! means that your SMP Kernel is working properly, has 
detected the multiple CPU's and has begun using them.

My CPU's are numbered #0 and #1 so I get CPU #1 Launched!

lane
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Re: Multi-CPU Question

2006-10-16 Thread Payne

Lane wrote:

On Monday 16 October 2006 04:01, Payne wrote:
  

Hi all,

Hello I have a question. I got a box. I got a strange message...

SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched!

Is there a place under /proc that I can see if the first processor still
working? Do I need to reboot the box, what does that message mean? Why
does it happen?

Thanks


Payne
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Payne,

I believe CPU #x Launched! means that your SMP Kernel is working properly, has 
detected the multiple CPU's and has begun using them.


My CPU's are numbered #0 and #1 so I get CPU #1 Launched!

lane
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Where in /proc can I see that?

Payne
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Re: Multi-CPU Question

2006-10-16 Thread Lane
On Monday 16 October 2006 04:26, you wrote:
 Lane wrote:
  On Monday 16 October 2006 04:01, Payne wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  Hello I have a question. I got a box. I got a strange message...
 
  SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched!
 
  Is there a place under /proc that I can see if the first processor still
  working? Do I need to reboot the box, what does that message mean? Why
  does it happen?
 
  Thanks
 
 
  Payne
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  Payne,
 
  I believe CPU #x Launched! means that your SMP Kernel is working
  properly, has detected the multiple CPU's and has begun using them.
 
  My CPU's are numbered #0 and #1 so I get CPU #1 Launched!
 
  lane
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 Where in /proc can I see that?

 Payne
Hmmm... I don't know that you can see it in /proc.

Read man smp and follow the SEE ALSO section.

mptable shows some configuration information about SMP.

Also you can see activity in various CPU's with top

lane
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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-16 Thread Alexandre Vieira

On 10/16/06, Jeff Mohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Linux has iSCSI...which hands Fbsd a real beating in the server space.

I work on projects at more customers than I can keep track of that
-have- to use Linux in the middle of Fbsd farms just because of the
amazing lack of iscsi support.

Linux has been doing iscsi since what..2002 or so?  Maybe 2003?

C;mon..yes, I know a brave soul is starting work on it now, but how
did the Fbsd effort let this lie for so long?



On 10/15/06, Girish Venkatachalam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 12:35:13AM -0400, Andy Harrison wrote:
  On 10/15/06, William Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 So, basically, I'm asking you guys to wow me. :-) Show me how FreeBSD
 can outdo Linux. Make me never want to go back.

 Ah well, you have to experience it. No amount of convincing or
intellectual gymnastics will help you.

 Know that in the software ecosystem there is a place for everything.

 There are situations in which you have to use linux and even Windoze.

 But things are so vibrant that more and more Windoze apps are available
in linux and FreeBSD and also in NetBSD and OpenBSD.

 Personally for me linux has very good support for a wide range of TV
cards, remote controls and other rare hardware.

 BSDs also have support but somewhat limited.

 FreeBSD gives you CCD,GEOM,GDBE, netgraph and various other features
hard to find in other OSes. Some equivalents exist but not as good.

 OpenBSD has very good IPsec , pf , BGP and other networking stuff. pf is
also available on FreeBSD but I doubt if it is as well integrated and
feature rich as OpenBSD.

 Linux has a lousy file system and is somewhat unstable and will throw
surprises if you stress it or use it in unexpected ways.

 Whereas BSDs have very very good stability. For instance FreeBSD will
give roughly 20 to 30% better overall performance compared to Linux. This is
subjective and dependent on various factors but this has been my experience.

 In terms of packages FreeBSD I think has the largest number since it can
emulate linux binaries too.

 I can go on but I suggest you try things with an open mind.

 If you like it, stick to it , else go back.

 Nobody is forcing you.

 But remember, give it enough time and be open.

 regards,
 Girish
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Hello,

As far as I can tell Linux only had mainstream/official iscsi support in
2.6.12 (2005-06).



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Re: Multi-CPU Question

2006-10-16 Thread Nikos Vassiliadis
On Monday 16 October 2006 12:26, Payne wrote:
 Where in /proc can I see that?
Unlike Linux, FreeBSD shows only process and kernel thread
information in procfs.

The equivalent interface for seeing/changing system options
is sysctl. Try sysctl hw | less.

For example:
root:0:~# sysctl -d hw.ncpu
hw.ncpu: Number of active CPUs
root:0:~# sysctl hw.ncpu
hw.ncpu: 1

It's better with descriptions, isn't it?

HTH, Nikos
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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-16 Thread Jeff Mohler

That was after I left Netapp for a spell (and later came back once the
vacation ran out) and it was supported before then by _something_
linux.

That was fall of 03.

Not trying to debate..just it'll still be 08 before it's likely to be
universally supported.


On 10/16/06, Alexandre Vieira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On 10/16/06, Jeff Mohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Linux has iSCSI...which hands Fbsd a real beating in the server space.

 I work on projects at more customers than I can keep track of that
 -have- to use Linux in the middle of Fbsd farms just because of the
 amazing lack of iscsi support.

 Linux has been doing iscsi since what..2002 or so?  Maybe 2003?

 C;mon..yes, I know a brave soul is starting work on it now, but how
 did the Fbsd effort let this lie for so long?



 On 10/15/06, Girish Venkatachalam  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 12:35:13AM -0400, Andy Harrison wrote:
   On 10/15/06, William Tracy  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  So, basically, I'm asking you guys to wow me. :-) Show me how FreeBSD
  can outdo Linux. Make me never want to go back.
 
  Ah well, you have to experience it. No amount of convincing or
intellectual gymnastics will help you.
 
  Know that in the software ecosystem there is a place for everything.
 
  There are situations in which you have to use linux and even Windoze.
 
  But things are so vibrant that more and more Windoze apps are available
in linux and FreeBSD and also in NetBSD and OpenBSD.
 
  Personally for me linux has very good support for a wide range of TV
cards, remote controls and other rare hardware.
 
  BSDs also have support but somewhat limited.
 
  FreeBSD gives you CCD,GEOM,GDBE, netgraph and various other features
hard to find in other OSes. Some equivalents exist but not as good.
 
  OpenBSD has very good IPsec , pf , BGP and other networking stuff. pf is
also available on FreeBSD but I doubt if it is as well integrated and
feature rich as OpenBSD.
 
  Linux has a lousy file system and is somewhat unstable and will throw
surprises if you stress it or use it in unexpected ways.
 
  Whereas BSDs have very very good stability. For instance FreeBSD will
give roughly 20 to 30% better overall performance compared to Linux. This is
subjective and dependent on various factors but this has been my experience.
 
  In terms of packages FreeBSD I think has the largest number since it can
emulate linux binaries too.
 
  I can go on but I suggest you try things with an open mind.
 
  If you like it, stick to it , else go back.
 
  Nobody is forcing you.
 
  But remember, give it enough time and be open.
 
  regards,
  Girish
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Hello,

As far as I can tell Linux only had mainstream/official iscsi support in
2.6.12 (2005-06).



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Re: Flash Plugin not working

2006-10-16 Thread Michael S
I followed the link below (just executed the commands,
I can't read Portuguese) and everything worked fine.
http://www.unixlike.com.br/?p=%2081

--- Subhro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I am running FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE on i386
 hardware. I have installed
 linux-firefox and linux-flashplugin from the ports
 collection. The
 same is iterated by pkg_info.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ pkg_info | grep flash
 linux-flashplugin-7.0r68 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI
 Plugin
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ linux-firefox
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ pkg_info | grep firefox
 firefox-1.5.0.7,1   Web browser based on the browser
 portion of Mozilla
 linux-firefox-1.5.0.7 Web browser based on the
 browser portion of Mozilla
 
 However when I am trying to open any sites from
 linux-firefox, the
 embedded flash applications are not displayed. Also
 the browser
 complains about missing plugin.
 
 I have checked the installed plugins by typing
 about:plugins. But
 there is no flash plugin displayed there either.
 
 Where am I going wrong?
 
 Thanks and Best Regards
 Subhro
 
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Re: Acroread not working

2006-10-16 Thread Michael S
Have you enabled Linux emulation in your /etc/rc.conf
?
Do you have the linux_base and related (linux_gtk,
linux_XFree) ports installed?
Have you also added linuxprocfs to your /etc/fstab
file?

--- Subhro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello Folks,
 
 I have installed acroread from the ports collection.
 I am running
 FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE. When I am trying to run the
 same from the
 command line, I am getting quite a few errors. I
 have pasted the error
 below.
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ acroread
 
 (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Can not open
 pixbuf loader
 module file '/
 
 etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No
 such file or directory
 
 (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading
 XPM image loader:
 Image typ
 e 'xpm' is not supported
 
 (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Can not open
 pixbuf loader
 module file '/
 
 etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No
 such file or directory
 
 (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading
 XPM image loader:
 Image typ
 e 'xpm' is not supported
 
 (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Can not open
 pixbuf loader
 module file '/
 
 etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No
 such file or directory
 
 (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading
 XPM image loader:
 Image typ
 e 'xpm' is not supported
 
 (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **:
 g_object_ref: assertion
 `G_IS_OBJECT
 (object)' failed
 
 (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **:
 g_object_ref: assertion
 `G_IS_OBJECT
 (object)' failed
 
 (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **:
 g_object_ref: assertion
 `G_IS_OBJECT
 (object)' failed
 
 (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **:
 g_object_unref: assertion
 `G_IS_OBJEC
   T (object)' failed
 
 (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **:
 g_object_unref: assertion
 `G_IS_OBJEC
   T (object)' failed
 
 (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **:
 g_object_unref: assertion
 `G_IS_OBJEC
   T (object)' failed
 
 (acroread:6260): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file
 gdkwindow-x11.c: line 3502
 (gdk_window_se
  t_icon_list):
 assertion
 `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed
 
 (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file
 gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481
 (gdk_pixbuf_
get_width): assertion
 `pixbuf != NULL'
 failed
 
 (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file
 gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497
 (gdk_pixbuf_
get_height):
 assertion `pixbuf != NULL'
 failed
 
 (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file
 gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481
 (gdk_pixbuf_
get_width): assertion
 `pixbuf != NULL'
 failed
 
 (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file
 gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497
 (gdk_pixbuf_
get_height):
 assertion `pixbuf != NULL'
 failed
 
 (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file
 gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481
 (gdk_pixbuf_
get_width): assertion
 `pixbuf != NULL'
 failed
 
 (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file
 gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497
 (gdk_pixbuf_
get_height):
 assertion `pixbuf != NULL'
 failed
 
 (acroread:6260): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file
 gdkwindow-x11.c: line 3502
 (gdk_window_se
  t_icon_list):
 assertion
 `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed
 
 (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file
 gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481
 (gdk_pixbuf_
get_width): assertion
 `pixbuf != NULL'
 failed
 
 (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file
 gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497
 (gdk_pixbuf_
get_height):
 assertion `pixbuf != NULL'
 failed
 
 (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file
 gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481
 (gdk_pixbuf_
get_width): assertion
 `pixbuf != NULL'
 failed
 
 (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file
 gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497
 (gdk_pixbuf_
get_height):
 assertion `pixbuf != NULL'
 failed
 
 (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file
 gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481
 (gdk_pixbuf_
get_width): assertion
 `pixbuf != NULL'
 failed
 
 (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file
 gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497
 (gdk_pixbuf_
get_height):
 assertion `pixbuf != NULL'
 failed
 
 (acroread:6260): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file
 gdkwindow-x11.c: line 3502
 (gdk_window_se
  t_icon_list):
 assertion
 `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed
 
 (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file
 gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481
 (gdk_pixbuf_
get_width): assertion
 `pixbuf != NULL'
 failed
 
 (acroread:6260): 

Re: atapicam trouble

2006-10-16 Thread Johan Johansen


I still have the same problem as below, even when running 6.2-BETA2 from
a FreeSBIE - cd. I wonder if this could have to do with badly supportet
motherboard, ASUS P5B, since I dont see any temp-readings with sysctl.
cpuTemp and MBTemp are displayed under bios-config.

Another funny thing, if I read disk-data with smartmontools,
smartctl -a /dev/ad10
[irq19: re0 uhci3++] starts using a hole cpu for itself, and only
a reboot helps.

mvh

 
 I run 6.1-STABLE-200607 on my brand new box with
 Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2 x 2,40 GHz cpu (beautiful piece of machinery)
 
 I can use my dvd-devices with atapicd, but atapicam do not work.
 
 kldload atapicam causes an interrupt storm, I guess.
 I tried to take out atapicd from the kernel after reading 
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/73675
 In fact, I removed ataraid atapifd atapist too, without any luck.
 
 Here is output from top -S a few seconds after kldload atapicam
 
 last pid:   600;  load averages:  0.24,  0.24,  0.11
 up 
 0+00:02:36  11:27:53
 88 processes:  5 running, 64 sleeping, 19 waiting
 CPU states:  0.0% user,  0.0% nice,  0.0% system, 43.8% interrupt, 56.2% idle
 Mem: 22M Active, 9604K Inact, 28M Wired, 15M Buf, 1943M Free
 Swap: 4070M Total, 4070M Free
 
   PID USERNAME  THR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATE  C   TIME   WCPU COMMAND
11 root1 171   52 0K 8K RUN1   2:03 99.26% idle: cpu1
12 root1 171   52 0K 8K RUN0   1:54 62.26% idle: cpu0
22 root1 -64 -183 0K 8K CPU0   0   0:09 36.41% irq16: 
 uhci0+
31 root1 -68 -187 0K 8K WAIT   1   0:01  0.00% irq19: re0 
 uhci3++
 
 Could anyone point me in a direction too solve this, please?


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I am such a fool! How to recover my data?

2006-10-16 Thread Kyrre Nygård

Hello, thanks for checking this out!

My hard disk and I are in a rather tight situation right now. I believe my
partition table's system ID is messed up. Other things are probably messed up
too, however I have not done anything which would constitute a format of my
data -- hence I hope that whatever data is still there.

I believe I've been a fool.

The hard drive in question is hard drive 1, a 150gb S-ATA that ran Windows XP
and NTFS. Hard drive 2, same type, ran FreeBSD and UFS. I was lacking space in
Windows, so I decided to format hard drive 2 into NTFS. I right clicked on My
Computer, went to Manage, then Disk Management and then I did what I was
suppose to do. Everything went fine. I backed up some data to hard drive 2,
which was now NTFS, and enjoyed my session a little bit more before I rebooted.

But then, NTLDR was missing. I figured this was because my hard drive 2 had
GRUB installed allowing me to dual boot between FreeBSD and Windows. But since
it was now NTFS, the MBR now suffered problems. So I figured all I had to do
was to remove the FreeBSD MBR, so silly me booted the FreeBSD installation CD
and pretended to do an installation, went into fdisk, selected Use entire disk,
set it to system ID 6, which is FAT, and then selected Standard boot loader. I
don't know what I was thinking, I hadn't eaten all day. A few steps later, the
process failed, after all I didn't actually want to format or install anything.
Nothing happened. Next I played around with boot0cfg -B on /dev/ad0 and
/dev/ad1. Nothing happened there either. Then I went into the Windows XP
setup's recovery console and did a fixmbr as well as fixboot. Still, nothing
happened.

I am currently running gpart /dev/ad0 from FreeSBIE, hoping I'll get lucky. Is
there any chance at all I may rescue my data?

All the best,
Kyrre


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Deinstalling X-windows

2006-10-16 Thread Chris
I could swear this was asked but I don't recall the answer and I've  
googled bsd till blue.
Since starting portupgrade, I've noticed the majority of time is  
spent bringing various X
ports up to date. I was thinking of make deinstall all of X as we use  
only command line.
To explain, we have always installed FreeBSD, pulled in a couple of  
ports then obtained
the major service components we used from their actual provider (e.g.  
grabbed apache
from apache.org). I'm shifting all our machines to use ports and keep  
them updated but
X is somewhat in the way. (BTW, I'm not putting down X, would love to  
use it, it's just
unlikely to do gui admin work via satellite which is how I have to  
reach our servers).


Below is the list of components I didn't install which I'm guessing I  
don't need on a
server (or at least have never had on a server prior to upgrading our  
machines to 6.x).

The old installation always asked if I wanted X and I'd skip it.

Can I deep six them, or, because they are now in the base, should I  
keep them for the
integrity of the installation? I apologize that I can't test this  
myself, I don't have a non-

production machine to play with just now.

xorg-clients-6.9.0_3 X client programs and related files from X.Org
xorg-documents-6.9.0 Documentation of X11 protocol and libraries from  
X.Org

xorg-fonts-100dpi-6.9.0_1 X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-75dpi-6.9.0_1 X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-cyrillic-6.9.0_1 X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-encodings-6.9.0_1 X.Org font encoding files
xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-6.9.0_1 X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-truetype-6.9.0 X.Org TrueType fonts
xorg-fonts-type1-6.9.0 X.Org Type1 fonts
xorg-fontserver-6.9.0_1 X font server from X.Org
xorg-libraries-6.9.0 X11 libraries and headers from X.Org
xorg-manpages-6.9.0 X.Org library manual pages
xorg-nestserver-6.9.0_1 Nesting X server from X.Org
xorg-printserver-6.9.0_2 X Print server from X.Org
xorg-vfbserver-6.9.0_2 X virtual framebuffer server from X.Org
xterm-220   Terminal emulator for the X Window System


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Nvidia on CURRENT...

2006-10-16 Thread Anders Troback
Hi,

X can't use the nvidia module and kldunload nvidia causes: Fatal trap
12: page fault while in kernel mode.

Any ideas?

Thanks!!!


PS. CURRENT cvsuped 6 hours ago!

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Linux: Where do you want to go tomorrow?
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Re: I am such a fool! How to recover my data?

2006-10-16 Thread Kyrre Nygård

I forgot to mention that yeah, everything thinks my hard drive is FAT now. I 
disconnected hard drive 2 long time
ago too, so it's out of the picture. And if gpart fails me now, I have no idea 
what to do. I hope I don't have to
invest in some proprietary data recovery software.

All the best,
Kyrre

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Re: Deinstalling X-windows

2006-10-16 Thread Erik Norgaard

Chris wrote:

Can I deep six them, or, because they are now in the base, should I keep 
them for the
integrity of the installation? I apologize that I can't test this 
myself, I don't have a non-

production machine to play with just now.

xorg-clients-6.9.0_3 X client programs and related files from X.Org
xorg-documents-6.9.0 Documentation of X11 protocol and libraries from X.Org
xorg-fonts-100dpi-6.9.0_1 X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-75dpi-6.9.0_1 X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-cyrillic-6.9.0_1 X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-encodings-6.9.0_1 X.Org font encoding files
xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-6.9.0_1 X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-truetype-6.9.0 X.Org TrueType fonts
xorg-fonts-type1-6.9.0 X.Org Type1 fonts
xorg-fontserver-6.9.0_1 X font server from X.Org
xorg-libraries-6.9.0 X11 libraries and headers from X.Org
xorg-manpages-6.9.0 X.Org library manual pages
xorg-nestserver-6.9.0_1 Nesting X server from X.Org
xorg-printserver-6.9.0_2 X Print server from X.Org
xorg-vfbserver-6.9.0_2 X virtual framebuffer server from X.Org
xterm-220   Terminal emulator for the X Window System


I assume that you do all the administration using ssh. You can tunnel X 
trough ssh if you need to, but if you never use X for managing the 
servers just deinstall.


Use

  # pkg_delete -x xorg-

to deinstall, by default it will not deinstall if there are dependencies.

There is one package you may need even if you don't run any X apps: 
xorg-libraries. I need it to do image manipulation on the command line 
with ImageMagick.


I think you can set WITHOUT_X11=YES in your make.conf so apps won't be 
built with X in the future.


Cheers, Erik
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Deinstalling X-windows

2006-10-16 Thread Robert Huff

Chris writes:

  Can I deep six them, or, because they are now in the base, should
  I keep them for the integrity of the installation? I apologize
  that I can't test this myself, I don't have a non- production
  machine to play with just now.

I believe there are ports that require X (or at least a subset
of it) to build but not to run.  Others will do so _unless_ you set
the appropriate flag using make config or by using make variables.
(No, I don't have a list or know how to generate one.)


Robert Huff
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Re: Installing Oracle Client 10g on FreeBSD

2006-10-16 Thread Scott T. Hildreth
On Sun, 2006-10-15 at 11:30 +0200, Martin Hudec wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Scott T. Hildreth wrote:
 He can't, DBD::Oracle uses oci underneath so he needs the Oracle client 
  to get the shared 
 libraries.   Mike you also need to compile or install a linux perl and 
  then install DBI  DBD::Oracle
 with the linux perl.  You could use DBD::Proxy instead of installing 
  DBD::Oracle.  It installed
  with DBI.  Type 'perldoc DBD::Proxy' to see the docs.  If you need 
  help, you can email me 
 or join the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Not fully correct - when I wanted to use DBD::Oracle, I did not need to 
 install linux-perl - just instantclient (linux compatibility enabled) as 
 Martinko mentioned. And it worked. And DBD::Oracle has been used with 
 native perl.

  Interesting, I have not used the instantclient.  I always have a full 
  Oracle install, since I need the database.  I will try that, 
  DBD::Oracle must not be linking with the libcltnsh.so.


 
 
 Martin
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Re: Acroread not working

2006-10-16 Thread Subhro

Thanks for your reply Michael. Here is the output:

phoenix# pkg_info | grep linux
linux-atk-1.9.1 Accessibility Toolkit, Linux/i386 binary
linux-expat-1.95.8  Linux/i386 binary port of Expat XML-parsing library
linux-firefox-1.5.0.7 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla
linux-flashplugin-7.0r68 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI Plugin
linux-glib2-2.6.6   Version 2.X Linux/i386 binary port of GLib
linux-gtk-1.2.10_4  RPM of the Gtk lib
linux-hicolor-icon-theme-0.5 A high-color icon theme shell from the
FreeDesktop project
linux-jpeg-6b.34RPM of the JPEG lib
linux-png-1.2.8_2   RPM of the PNG lib
linux-tiff-3.7.1TIFF library, Linux/i386 binary
linux-xorg-libs-6.8.2_5 Xorg libraries, linux binaries
linux_base-fc-4_9   Base set of packages needed in Linux mode (for i386/amd64)
linuxpluginwrapper-20051113_6 A wrapper allowing use of linux-plugins
with native applica

Also I have installed acroread from ports. So sould it not fetch all
the dependancies?

Thanks
Subhro

On 10/16/06, Michael S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Have you enabled Linux emulation in your /etc/rc.conf
?
Do you have the linux_base and related (linux_gtk,
linux_XFree) ports installed?
Have you also added linuxprocfs to your /etc/fstab
file?

--- Subhro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello Folks,

 I have installed acroread from the ports collection.
 I am running
 FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE. When I am trying to run the
 same from the
 command line, I am getting quite a few errors. I
 have pasted the error
 below.


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ acroread

 (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Can not open
 pixbuf loader
 module file '/

 etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No
 such file or directory

 (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading
 XPM image loader:
 Image typ
 e 'xpm' is not supported

 (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Can not open
 pixbuf loader
 module file '/

 etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No
 such file or directory

 (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading
 XPM image loader:
 Image typ
 e 'xpm' is not supported

 (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Can not open
 pixbuf loader
 module file '/

 etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No
 such file or directory

 (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading
 XPM image loader:
 Image typ
 e 'xpm' is not supported

 (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **:
 g_object_ref: assertion
 `G_IS_OBJECT
 (object)' failed

 (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **:
 g_object_ref: assertion
 `G_IS_OBJECT
 (object)' failed

 (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **:
 g_object_ref: assertion
 `G_IS_OBJECT
 (object)' failed

 (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **:
 g_object_unref: assertion
 `G_IS_OBJEC
   T (object)' failed

 (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **:
 g_object_unref: assertion
 `G_IS_OBJEC
   T (object)' failed

 (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **:
 g_object_unref: assertion
 `G_IS_OBJEC
   T (object)' failed

 (acroread:6260): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file
 gdkwindow-x11.c: line 3502
 (gdk_window_se
  t_icon_list):
 assertion
 `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed

 (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file
 gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481
 (gdk_pixbuf_
get_width): assertion
 `pixbuf != NULL'
 failed

 (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file
 gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497
 (gdk_pixbuf_
get_height):
 assertion `pixbuf != NULL'
 failed

 (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file
 gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481
 (gdk_pixbuf_
get_width): assertion
 `pixbuf != NULL'
 failed

 (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file
 gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497
 (gdk_pixbuf_
get_height):
 assertion `pixbuf != NULL'
 failed

 (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file
 gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481
 (gdk_pixbuf_
get_width): assertion
 `pixbuf != NULL'
 failed

 (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file
 gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497
 (gdk_pixbuf_
get_height):
 assertion `pixbuf != NULL'
 failed

 (acroread:6260): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file
 gdkwindow-x11.c: line 3502
 (gdk_window_se
  t_icon_list):
 assertion
 `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed

 (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file
 gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481
 (gdk_pixbuf_
get_width): assertion
 `pixbuf != NULL'
 failed

 (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file
 gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497
 (gdk_pixbuf_
get_height):
 assertion `pixbuf != NULL'
 failed

 (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file
 gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481
 (gdk_pixbuf_
   

Re: Acroread not working

2006-10-16 Thread Michael S
My setup is quite similar:
linux-XFree86-libs-4.3.99.902_7 XFree86 libraries,
Linux binary
linux-aspell-0.50.4.1_1 Spelling checker with better
logic than ispell (linux versi
linux-atk-1.9.1 Accessibility Toolkit, Linux/i386
binary
linux-expat-1.95.8  Linux/i386 binary port of Expat
XML-parsing library
linux-flashplugin-7.0r63_1 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI
Plugin
linux-fontconfig-2.2.3_5 Linux/i386 binary of
Fontconfig
linux-glib2-2.6.6   Version 2.X Linux/i386 binary port
of GLib
linux-gtk2-2.6.10   GTK+ library, version 2.X, Linux
binary
linux-jpeg-6b.34RPM of the JPEG lib
linux-openmotif-2.2.4_2 Motif toolkit Linux libraries
linux-pango-1.8.1   Linux pango binary
linux-png-1.2.8_2   RPM of the PNG lib
linux-realplayer-10.0.7.785.20060201 Linux RealPlayer
10 from RealNetworks
linux-tiff-3.7.1TIFF library, Linux/i386 binary
linux-xorg-libs-6.8.2_5 Xorg libraries, linux binaries
linux_base-fc-4_8   Base set of packages needed in
Linux mode (for i386/amd64)
linuxpluginwrapper-20051113_4 A wrapper allowing use
of linux-plugins with native applica
linuxthreads-2.2.3_21 POSIX pthreads implementation
using rfork to generate kerne

I am running 5.5 on this machine though.
And linux compatibility is enabled I assume?

--- Subhro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks for your reply Michael. Here is the output:
 
 phoenix# pkg_info | grep linux
 linux-atk-1.9.1 Accessibility Toolkit,
 Linux/i386 binary
 linux-expat-1.95.8  Linux/i386 binary port of Expat
 XML-parsing library
 linux-firefox-1.5.0.7 Web browser based on the
 browser portion of Mozilla
 linux-flashplugin-7.0r68 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI
 Plugin
 linux-glib2-2.6.6   Version 2.X Linux/i386 binary
 port of GLib
 linux-gtk-1.2.10_4  RPM of the Gtk lib
 linux-hicolor-icon-theme-0.5 A high-color icon theme
 shell from the
 FreeDesktop project
 linux-jpeg-6b.34RPM of the JPEG lib
 linux-png-1.2.8_2   RPM of the PNG lib
 linux-tiff-3.7.1TIFF library, Linux/i386 binary
 linux-xorg-libs-6.8.2_5 Xorg libraries, linux
 binaries
 linux_base-fc-4_9   Base set of packages needed in
 Linux mode (for i386/amd64)
 linuxpluginwrapper-20051113_6 A wrapper allowing use
 of linux-plugins
 with native applica
 
 Also I have installed acroread from ports. So sould
 it not fetch all
 the dependancies?
 
 Thanks
 Subhro
 
 On 10/16/06, Michael S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Have you enabled Linux emulation in your
 /etc/rc.conf
  ?
  Do you have the linux_base and related (linux_gtk,
  linux_XFree) ports installed?
  Have you also added linuxprocfs to your /etc/fstab
  file?
 
  --- Subhro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Hello Folks,
  
   I have installed acroread from the ports
 collection.
   I am running
   FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE. When I am trying to run
 the
   same from the
   command line, I am getting quite a few errors. I
   have pasted the error
   below.
  
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ acroread
  
   (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Can not
 open
   pixbuf loader
   module file '/
  
   etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No
   such file or directory
  
   (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error
 loading
   XPM image loader:
   Image typ
   e 'xpm' is not
 supported
  
   (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Can not
 open
   pixbuf loader
   module file '/
  
   etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No
   such file or directory
  
   (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error
 loading
   XPM image loader:
   Image typ
   e 'xpm' is not
 supported
  
   (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Can not
 open
   pixbuf loader
   module file '/
  
   etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No
   such file or directory
  
   (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error
 loading
   XPM image loader:
   Image typ
   e 'xpm' is not
 supported
  
   (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **:
   g_object_ref: assertion
   `G_IS_OBJECT
   (object)' failed
  
   (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **:
   g_object_ref: assertion
   `G_IS_OBJECT
   (object)' failed
  
   (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **:
   g_object_ref: assertion
   `G_IS_OBJECT
   (object)' failed
  
   (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **:
   g_object_unref: assertion
   `G_IS_OBJEC
 T (object)' failed
  
   (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **:
   g_object_unref: assertion
   `G_IS_OBJEC
 T (object)' failed
  
   (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **:
   g_object_unref: assertion
   `G_IS_OBJEC
 T (object)' failed
  
   (acroread:6260): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file
   gdkwindow-x11.c: line 3502
   (gdk_window_se
t_icon_list):
   assertion
   `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed
  
   (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file
   gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481
   (gdk_pixbuf_
   

Re: Deinstalling X-windows

2006-10-16 Thread Chris


On Oct 16, 2006, at 6:18 AM, Erik Norgaard wrote:


Chris wrote:

Can I deep six them, or, because they are now in the base, should  
I keep them for the
integrity of the installation? I apologize that I can't test this  
myself, I don't have a non-

production machine to play with just now.
xorg-clients-6.9.0_3 X client programs and related files from X.Org

...
I assume that you do all the administration using ssh. You can  
tunnel X trough ssh if you need to, but if you never use X for  
managing the servers just deinstall.


Use

  # pkg_delete -x xorg-

to deinstall, by default it will not deinstall if there are  
dependencies.


There is one package you may need even if you don't run any X apps:  
xorg-libraries. I need it to do image manipulation on the command  
line with ImageMagick.


I think you can set WITHOUT_X11=YES in your make.conf so apps won't  
be built with X in the future.


First, sorry I keep forgetting to change my from address to the one  
that identifies me more. I just did on this reply.


I really appreciate the responses, they answer what I asked but also  
another question I didn't ask, but was worrying about. We DO use  
ImageMagick and for the first time, I've installed it from ports. I  
didn't find any reference to WITHOUT_X11 in the man make.conf but  
immediately found it in the make for ImageMagick so you hit on the  
head. I'll research more for the other ports we are using and see if  
there similar flags.


On the ssh comment, OT but Yes, I've tried tunnelling X and it worked  
great on my test LAN, but the satellite connection (Hughes best  
service) adds latency that thwarts any slick admin access I've tried.  
So in laziness, I've not strayed too far from simple command line  
access. My working location carries the concept of working remotely  
to absurdity. No DSL or Cable here.


Thanks again,
Chris
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Re: Nvidia on CURRENT...

2006-10-16 Thread Joao Barros

On 10/16/06, Anders Troback [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

X can't use the nvidia module and kldunload nvidia causes: Fatal trap
12: page fault while in kernel mode.

Any ideas?

Thanks!!!


PS. CURRENT cvsuped 6 hours ago!



Try recompiling the nvidia module. When recompiling a new kernel
version always remind yourself to recompile the nvidia driver aswell
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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-16 Thread Bob M.
On Sun, 2006-10-15 at 15:26 -0700, William Tracy wrote:

 I even compiled my own kernel so that
 I'm all 1337. :-)

What does this mean?

 So, basically, I'm asking you guys to wow me. :-) Show me how FreeBSD
 can outdo Linux. Make me never want to go back.

I would think if you spend enough time with it, these questions may be
answered by yourself.  I'm assuming you would know your
likes/dislikes/opinions about Linux based on what you do with it.

So, do the same things with FreeBSD and ask yourself if you feel
compelled to keep using it or not.

To ask us to wow you like some bizarre circus act is a little
presumptuous on your part, no?  

Bob



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Re: mimedefang with LDAP-enabled sendmail

2006-10-16 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Sunday 15 October 2006 22:19, Jonathan McKeown wrote:
 sendmail -d0.1 -bt /dev/null gives me

 Version 8.13.6
  Compiled with: DNSMAP LDAPMAP LOG MAP_REGEX MATCHGECOS MILTER MIME7TO8
 MIME8TO7 NAMED_BIND NETINET NETINET6 NETUNIX NEWDB NIS
 PIPELINING SASLv2 SCANF STARTTLS TCPWRAPPERS USERDB
 USE_LDAP_INIT XDEBUG

 When I try to build and install mail/mimedefang from ports (version is
 2.57), I get (modulo wrapping)

 cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe  -pthread -o mimedefang mimedefang.o
 drop_privs_threaded.o utils.o rm_r.o syslog-fac.o /usr/lib/libmilter.a
 -lpthread

 /usr/lib/libmilter.a(errstring.o)(.text+0xd6): In function `sm_errstring':
 : undefined reference to `ldap_err2string'

The undefined reference is apparently in libmilter.a and it seems (Google 
again) that the ldap_err2string symbol comes from the openldap library. Is it 
possible that the build of libmilter is not picking up libldap 
from /usr/local/lib?

Jonathan
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slice vanishing

2006-10-16 Thread J. W. Ballantine
Hi,

I've been running BSD, for several versions, as a VMWARE client on
a persistant disk.  Recently, following an update to 6-stable/pre-release,
the label for slice that the system was on has been removed.  When I
try and boot the system, it reads and loads the kernel but it fails
when it trys to mount the file system.

Is this an issue with 6-prerelease, VMWARE, or some interaction between
the two?

Any ideas are appreciated.

Thanks

Jim

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Re: Deinstalling X-windows

2006-10-16 Thread Erik Norgaard

Chris wrote:

I really appreciate the responses, they answer what I asked but also 
another question I didn't ask, but was worrying about. We DO use 
ImageMagick and for the first time, I've installed it from ports. I 
didn't find any reference to WITHOUT_X11 in the man make.conf but 
immediately found it in the make for ImageMagick so you hit on the head. 
I'll research more for the other ports we are using and see if there 
similar flags.


AFAIK The options documented for make.conf concerns building the base 
system. But you can add options for ports as well: Adding


  WITHOUT_X11=YES

will cause all ports that support the option to be built without X11 so 
you don't have to specify it every time.


Whether you install ImageMagick from ports or not, you need the X11 
libraries. The pkg_delete or any other of the package/ports tools won't 
warn you about anything breaking unless it is installed from ports.


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Re: Installing Oracle Client 10g on FreeBSD

2006-10-16 Thread Scott T. Hildreth
On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 17:18 +0300, Vladimir Terziev wrote:
   I'm also interested of mixing native FreeBSD libraries and Linux once, 
 if it's possible ...
 
   I tryed to install a DBD::Oracle module with natively build FreeBSD 
 perl and Linux Oracle Instantclient. After some hacking of DBD::Oracle's make 
 file, i managed to build native Oracle.so linked against Instantclient's 
 libcltnsh.so library.
 
   When i tryed use DBD::Oracle in a perl script i got Segmentation 
 fault.
   I don't think it's possible to intermix native FreeBSD libraries and 
 Linux once used by a native FreeBSD executable.

  I didn't either, but I am going to try. :-)

  Martin, how did you do this?


 
   Vladimir
 
 
 On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 08:55:45 -0500
 Scott T. Hildreth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Sun, 2006-10-15 at 11:30 +0200, Martin Hudec wrote:
   Hello,
   
   Scott T. Hildreth wrote:
   He can't, DBD::Oracle uses oci underneath so he needs the Oracle 
client to get the shared 
   libraries.   Mike you also need to compile or install a linux perl 
and then install DBI  DBD::Oracle
   with the linux perl.  You could use DBD::Proxy instead of installing 
DBD::Oracle.  It installed
with DBI.  Type 'perldoc DBD::Proxy' to see the docs.  If you need 
help, you can email me 
   or join the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   Not fully correct - when I wanted to use DBD::Oracle, I did not need to 
   install linux-perl - just instantclient (linux compatibility enabled) as 
   Martinko mentioned. And it worked. And DBD::Oracle has been used with 
   native perl.
  
Interesting, I have not used the instantclient.  I always have a full 
Oracle install, since I need the database.  I will try that, 
DBD::Oracle must not be linking with the libcltnsh.so.
  
  
   
   
   Martin
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Re: Installing Oracle Client 10g on FreeBSD

2006-10-16 Thread Martin Hudec

Hello,


Scott T. Hildreth wrote:

  I didn't either, but I am going to try. :-)

  Martin, how did you do this?


Well, as I've already had linux compatibility present in the system, 
I've installed instantclient for linux and built DBD::Oracle.


Currently I have it uninstalled as it is no longer needed for me, but I 
can try it and provide with instructions.


DBD::Oracle was being used by CMS system of my previous employer, and 
that CMS was based on native perl stuff, not linux perl stuff.



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Re: Installing Oracle Client 10g on FreeBSD

2006-10-16 Thread Vladimir Terziev

I'll be very thankful if you provide working instructions how to 
intermix FreeBSD and Linux libraries.

Thanks in advance!

Vladimir

On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:51:01 +0200
Martin Hudec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 
 
 Scott T. Hildreth wrote:
I didn't either, but I am going to try. :-)
  
Martin, how did you do this?
 
 Well, as I've already had linux compatibility present in the system, 
 I've installed instantclient for linux and built DBD::Oracle.
 
 Currently I have it uninstalled as it is no longer needed for me, but I 
 can try it and provide with instructions.
 
 DBD::Oracle was being used by CMS system of my previous employer, and 
 that CMS was based on native perl stuff, not linux perl stuff.
 
 
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Re: Installing Oracle Client 10g on FreeBSD

2006-10-16 Thread Vladimir Terziev

I'm also interested of mixing native FreeBSD libraries and Linux once, 
if it's possible ...

I tryed to install a DBD::Oracle module with natively build FreeBSD 
perl and Linux Oracle Instantclient. After some hacking of DBD::Oracle's make 
file, i managed to build native Oracle.so linked against Instantclient's 
libcltnsh.so library.

When i tryed use DBD::Oracle in a perl script i got Segmentation 
fault.
I don't think it's possible to intermix native FreeBSD libraries and 
Linux once used by a native FreeBSD executable.

Vladimir


On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 08:55:45 -0500
Scott T. Hildreth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 2006-10-15 at 11:30 +0200, Martin Hudec wrote:
  Hello,
  
  Scott T. Hildreth wrote:
  He can't, DBD::Oracle uses oci underneath so he needs the Oracle 
   client to get the shared 
  libraries.   Mike you also need to compile or install a linux perl and 
   then install DBI  DBD::Oracle
  with the linux perl.  You could use DBD::Proxy instead of installing 
   DBD::Oracle.  It installed
   with DBI.  Type 'perldoc DBD::Proxy' to see the docs.  If you need 
   help, you can email me 
  or join the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Not fully correct - when I wanted to use DBD::Oracle, I did not need to 
  install linux-perl - just instantclient (linux compatibility enabled) as 
  Martinko mentioned. And it worked. And DBD::Oracle has been used with 
  native perl.
 
   Interesting, I have not used the instantclient.  I always have a full 
   Oracle install, since I need the database.  I will try that, 
   DBD::Oracle must not be linking with the libcltnsh.so.
 
 
  
  
  Martin
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Re: atapicam trouble

2006-10-16 Thread Josh Carroll

Johan,

I have a PR submitted for this problem. I do not think it is
particular to Asus P5B boards, as I tried a Gigabyte DS3 board and it
had the same problem.

PR is here:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=103602

I'm unable to copy a file from a udf-mounted DVD regardless of whether
atapicam is loaded or not, so I'm not sure if atapicam is just making
a problem more apparent or what. Are you able to do so?

Thanks,
Josh

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I still have the same problem as below, even when running 6.2-BETA2 from
a FreeSBIE - cd. I wonder if this could have to do with badly supportet
motherboard, ASUS P5B, since I dont see any temp-readings with sysctl.
cpuTemp and MBTemp are displayed under bios-config.

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Upgrading in the same RELENG without shutdown ?

2006-10-16 Thread bsd

Hello,


I have CVS-UP configured to follow RELENG_5_4

I was wondering if there is a way to patch (upgrading from 5.4- 
RELEASE-p8 to a higher version) my system without going into the  
classic :


# make -j4 buildworld
# make -j4 buildkernel
# make -j4 installkernel
# shutdown now

And booting in single user //

# fsck -p
# mount -u /
# mount -a -t ufs
# swapon -a

# cd /usr/src
# mergemaster -p



My system is in production and I am not onsite so this is a problem  
for me to have to boot in single user mode.


Is there a way to keep the system in multi-user mode while doing this ?

And what are the risks if any ?



Sincerly yours.



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Re: Upgrading in the same RELENG without shutdown ?

2006-10-16 Thread Jonathan Horne
 Hello,


 I have CVS-UP configured to follow RELENG_5_4

 I was wondering if there is a way to patch (upgrading from 5.4-
 RELEASE-p8 to a higher version) my system without going into the
 classic :

 # make -j4 buildworld
 # make -j4 buildkernel
 # make -j4 installkernel
 # shutdown now

 And booting in single user //

 # fsck -p
 # mount -u /
 # mount -a -t ufs
 # swapon -a

 # cd /usr/src
 # mergemaster -p



 My system is in production and I am not onsite so this is a problem
 for me to have to boot in single user mode.

 Is there a way to keep the system in multi-user mode while doing this ?

 And what are the risks if any ?



 Sincerly yours.


 
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it can be done, but it is NOT guaranteed safe.  i do it, but your might
not be the same as mine.  my system is a *low* traffic system, and i am
the only user.  the system is however running apache2, mysql, and some
other daemons.

again, your mileage may vary, this is what i do:

1) make buildworld, and make buildkernel.
2) make installkernel
3) cd /usr/src, mergemaster -p, make installworld, mergemaster.
4) reboot.

hth,
jonathan

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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-16 Thread Simon Gao
I have a few FreeBSD machine from 4.x to 5.x. I have asked people how to
upgrade them to latest version 6.x cleanly. All I was told is that I
need to wipe them out and reinstall. However, this is not the case with
Gentoo Linux. With Gentoo, version release does not matter that much,
you can always keep your system up to date if you like. Of cause, you
can also choose staying at a certain version.

Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices.

Simon



Jim Stapleton wrote:
 Well, in my case:

 - No matter what method I use to install packages in Linux (Apt-Get,
 Yum, Deb, RPM, and to a much lesser extent, Emerge, and to a *MUCH*
 greater extent src tar.gz's), I tend to have a lot more trouble
 getting installs to finish than with BSD in ports.

 - The FreeBSD community is much more friendly and helpful than the
 Linux community, in my experience. Gentoo's is better than other Linux
 communities, but still not quite up to FreeBSD.

 - I notice a lot smaller number of It's 'X' liscence, therefore it
 has to be good, or It's open source therefore it has to be good
 fanboys in FreeBSD. The users tend to be more of a It works, so it's
 good type. This really makes the commmunity pleasant.

 - The documentation of FreeBSD is much better in both organization and
 detail - while good documentation can be found for Linux, FreeBSD just
 takes a lot less searching.

 - I've found a lot of breaks in Linux where I couldn't find anything
 short of a system re-install to fix them without a lot more effort in
 searching for some obscure piece of documentation. Aside from once
 when I blew up my kernel build, I didn't have that problem in BSD.

 - It's less popular than Linux, so it's less commonly known/accounted
 for, and it makes you just that much safer from hackers.



 Note: that's not to say it doesn't have it's issues, like every other
 OS, I could name a few dozen issues I've run into with FreeBSD without
 much hassle (mostly related to drivers, UI, and parts of the
 installer), but that's a different topic alltogether.

 -Jim
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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-16 Thread Jonathan Horne
 All I was told is that I need to wipe them out and reinstall.


i would recommend that you change the people who you are asking your
technical questions to.  i personally tend to get really upset when
someone tells me one thing, then thru my own research, i find out that
they didnt know shit from shinola.

*wink*

cheers,
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Re: Upgrading in the same RELENG without shutdown ?

2006-10-16 Thread david coder

i save myself some time by removing files from subdirectories of /etc whose
contents i never modify,  using the -i option to mergemaster the 2nd time.
you might (or might not) find the following scripts useful, edited to meet
your needs (the 2nd is obviously intended to be run in single-user):

# cat buildsys
rm -rf /usr/obj  \
cd /usr/src  \
make buildworld  \
make kernel KERNCONF=KEROUAC

# cat installsys
mount -u /  \
mount -a  \
cd /usr/src  \
mergemaster -p  \
make installworld  \
rm -rf /etc/bluetooth/*  \
rm -rf /etc/defaults/*  \
rm -rf /etc/gnats/*  \
rm -rf /etc/isdn/*  \
rm -rf /etc/mtree/*  \
rm -rf /etc/pam.d/*  \
rm -rf /etc/periodic/*  \
rm -rf /etc/ppp/*  \
rm -rf /etc/rc.d/*  \
rm -rf /etc/security/*  \
rm -rf /etc/skel/*  \
rm -rf /etc/ssl/*  \
mergemaster -i  \
rm -rf /usr/obj/*

i guess it's obvious that the 2nd script is designed to be run in single user
 that the point of concatenating the commands in each script is to stop the
proceedings cold in case there's a failure at any stage.

at the very least, i'd reboot after running the 1st script to make sure the
kernel works.  you might have problems w/ a new system  an old kernel.

+++ Jonathan Horne [16/10/06 12:40 -0500]:

Hello,


I have CVS-UP configured to follow RELENG_5_4

I was wondering if there is a way to patch (upgrading from 5.4-
RELEASE-p8 to a higher version) my system without going into the
classic :

# make -j4 buildworld
# make -j4 buildkernel
# make -j4 installkernel
# shutdown now

And booting in single user //

# fsck -p
# mount -u /
# mount -a -t ufs
# swapon -a

# cd /usr/src
# mergemaster -p



My system is in production and I am not onsite so this is a problem
for me to have to boot in single user mode.

Is there a way to keep the system in multi-user mode while doing this ?

And what are the risks if any ?



Sincerly yours.





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it can be done, but it is NOT guaranteed safe.  i do it, but your might
not be the same as mine.  my system is a *low* traffic system, and i am
the only user.  the system is however running apache2, mysql, and some
other daemons.

again, your mileage may vary, this is what i do:

1) make buildworld, and make buildkernel.
2) make installkernel
3) cd /usr/src, mergemaster -p, make installworld, mergemaster.
4) reboot.

hth,
jonathan

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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-16 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Oct 16, 2006, at 10:45 AM, Simon Gao wrote:
I have a few FreeBSD machine from 4.x to 5.x. I have asked people  
how to

upgrade them to latest version 6.x cleanly. All I was told is that I
need to wipe them out and reinstall. However, this is not the case  
with

Gentoo Linux.


It's not the case with FreeBSD either.
Read the fine Handbook, or /usr/src/UPDATING...

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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-16 Thread Jeff Palmer

At 01:45 PM 10/16/2006, Simon Gao wrote:

I have a few FreeBSD machine from 4.x to 5.x. I have asked people how to
upgrade them to latest version 6.x cleanly. All I was told is that I
need to wipe them out and reinstall. However, this is not the case with
Gentoo Linux. With Gentoo, version release does not matter that much,
you can always keep your system up to date if you like. Of cause, you
can also choose staying at a certain version.

Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices.


Whoever gave you the 'wipe and reinstall' advice for the 5.x to 6.x 
migration was insane.


4.x to 6.x is a pain, due to major changes in /dev (5.x and later use 
devfs, 4.x doesn't)   but can still be done.
but the 5.6 to 6.x migration is fairly straight forward with a 
buildworld and a couple minor caveats as noticed in UPDATING.


Jeff

P.S.  while 4.x to 5.x is possible,  I'd still personally do a 
wipe/reinstall.5.x to 6.x,  I'd build world.


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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-16 Thread Robert C Wittig

Simon Gao wrote:


Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices.


So???

What's so compelling about that?

BSD has a Dever little Clevil... Oops! I mean a Clever little Devil.

...and all that Linux has, is that obviously intoxicated Penguin.

Daemon is a gas, whereas Tux is merely gassed.

What better reason, for choosing one OS over another?g


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Re: squirrelmail

2006-10-16 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 08:50:31AM +0800, jan gestre wrote:
 On 10/16/06, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 10:41:32PM +0200, albi wrote:
  On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:37:44 + (UTC)
  justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   I`ve got a problem with squirrelmail
   when i try to reach it through my browser i get the index.php
   with the following message:
  --cut --
   // Are we configured yet?
   if( ! file_exists ( 'config/config.php' ) ) {
  -- cut --
   So my questions is why the squirrelmail interface isnt executeted.
 
  did you run ./configure in /usr/local/www/squirrelmail/ ?
 
  and do you have in apache's config the following ?
 
  DirectoryIndex index.html index.html.var index.php
  AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
  AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps
 
 
 
 
 I've been saving these instructions for weeks and just installed
 squirrelmail.   I tested it with
 
 http://www.thought.org/squirrelmail/  and by pointing at the
 src/configtest.php.  I get a 404 return.  I have added your mods
 intp my  httpd.conf; I  have stopped and restarted apache; I have
 run ./configure.  Still nothing.  Any clues?
 
 gary
 
 you apache build doesn't have that module installed so even if you put it
 there explicitly, you will still see the codes instead of the actual page,
 you have to recompile apache with php support.
 

I'm using PHP all over the place; which port are you thinking of?
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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-16 Thread Garrett Cooper
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Jeff Palmer wrote:
 At 01:45 PM 10/16/2006, Simon Gao wrote:
 I have a few FreeBSD machine from 4.x to 5.x. I have asked people how to
 upgrade them to latest version 6.x cleanly. All I was told is that I
 need to wipe them out and reinstall. However, this is not the case with
 Gentoo Linux. With Gentoo, version release does not matter that much,
 you can always keep your system up to date if you like. Of cause, you
 can also choose staying at a certain version.

 Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices.
 
 Whoever gave you the 'wipe and reinstall' advice for the 5.x to 6.x
 migration was insane.
 
 4.x to 6.x is a pain, due to major changes in /dev (5.x and later use
 devfs, 4.x doesn't)   but can still be done.
 but the 5.6 to 6.x migration is fairly straight forward with a
 buildworld and a couple minor caveats as noticed in UPDATING.
 
 Jeff
 
 P.S.  while 4.x to 5.x is possible,  I'd still personally do a
 wipe/reinstall.5.x to 6.x,  I'd build world.

No kidding. Only if you want to get rid of obsolete/unused files from
previous system / ports should you do this. This is more of a time
dependency though and not a version dependency, i.e. if I move from from
4.x (used for 1-2 years), I may consider wiping stuff clean and
reinstalling from scratch.

But if you've used PCs enough you should have known this from
experience. This is sort of a good rule of thumb with all OSes to some
extent..

My thoughts...

Pro-FBSD:
1. Better kernel and userland 'linking' (is 'cooperation' a better
term?), due to better overall dev and planning organization.
2. Better documentation; you can find more properly documented manpages
and the documentation-for the most part-is centralized on freebsd.org,
which helps a lot.

Pro-Linux:
1. More bleeding edge hardware support.
2. In general, better software support due to more devs working on Linux
than FBSD (or *BSD in general).

Another sidecomment:
*BSD tends to be better organized in terms of networking and server
configs, but in general Linux tends to be better in the desktop arena,
depending on what you're trying to accomplish of course. Besides, all
good ideas in either camp eventually equilibrates out to the other camp
due to proper collaboration and open-source ideology. The main thing
that separates the Linux and *BSD group, apart from organization, is the
GNU license (more restrictive to devs and for resale of designed
product, perhaps, possibly too idealistic in design) vs the BSD license
(better for devs and business folks if they come up with an idea and
want to market it or maintain their copyright/idea properly with less
restrictions in a given respect). But, you should read the BSD and GNU
licenses and compare them for yourself to determine where and how they
differ.

Hopefully I won't get a lot of flak from the list about my comments :).

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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-16 Thread Robert Huff

Jeff Palmer writes:

  Whoever gave you the 'wipe and reinstall' advice for the 5.x to 6.x 
  migration was insane.

Need is the wrong word; there are plenty of people who have
upgraded across major release boundaries to prove the contrary.
Are there reasons to wipe and reinstall?  Sure.  I used to do
it all the time, as it cleaned out leftover libraries and config
files; it also gave me the chance to tweak partition sizes.
To the OP: source updating is possible.  Read UPDATING; check
the mailing list archives; ask questions if you don't understand
what's happening.  As always, have a verified backup.


Robert Huff
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Re: squirrelmail

2006-10-16 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 11:22:31AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 08:50:31AM +0800, jan gestre wrote:
  you have to recompile apache with php support.
  
 
   I'm using PHP all over the place; which port are you thinking of?

Never mind.  Following a modified suggested suggestion from
Jonathan Horne, I added an Alias to my apache13 and things are
beginning to happen.

gary

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kldunload -f has no effect

2006-10-16 Thread [LoN]Kamikaze
I need to 'kldunload -f drm' in order to go into suspend to ram with my 
thinkpad (suspend works fine with dri disabled). Unfortunately, despite the 
claims of the manpage the '-f' flag does not alter the behaviour of the 
kldunload tool. How do I get drm unloaded?

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Teletronics wlan 200mW card supported under 5.x?

2006-10-16 Thread Gordon Pedersen
Has anyone got the Teletronics XI-325HP 200mW PRISM 2.5-based PCMCIA card
to work under freebsd 5.4, which I currently run?  or 6.x?

The Teletronics XI-325HP 200mW PRISM 2.5-based PCMCIA card is
high on my list of possible cards with external antenna jacks to buy.

Older reports say they had to flash firmware back to 1.5.6 on
the card to get it working under Freebsd 4.x.  Current firmware
as sold now appears to be 1.8.4 or higher.  Seems like a big
jump backwards to take.

Thanks.


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Choosing Bash and Gnome

2006-10-16 Thread Robe

Hi,


This is the first time I use FreeBSD. I've the version 6.1. During the
installation I've choose the Bash as the shell and Gnome. However when I'm
in the shell I see that it's not Bash. And when I type *startx* the
Graphical environment is not Gnome.



Does anybody know how can I use Bash and Gnome?



I want it because those are which I've used in Linux  ;-)

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Squid diskd msgget error in jail

2006-10-16 Thread Johan Hendriks

Hello i have installed FreeBSD 6.1 with jail created with ezjail

One jail i want to use as a squid proxy
I installed squid 2.6.3 and al works fine except for the diskd cache.
This is what i get from the jail /var/log/maillog 

Oct 16 12:26:54 proxyserver (squid): msgget failed
Oct 16 12:26:54 proxyserver squid[98292]: Squid Parent: child process 98317 exit
ed due to signal 6
Oct 16 12:26:57 proxyserver squid[98292]: Squid Parent: child process 98320 star
ted
Oct 16 12:26:57 proxyserver (squid): msgget failed
Oct 16 12:26:57 proxyserver squid[98292]: Squid Parent: child process 98320 exit
ed due to signal 6
Oct 16 12:26:57 proxyserver squid[98292]: Exiting due to repeated, frequent fail
ures

If i install squid on the jailhost itself it all works as expaected and the 
diskd service starts withou a problem.

Do i mis something from the jail.

Regards Johan
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Re: Teletronics wlan 200mW card supported under 5.x?

2006-10-16 Thread Nikolas Britton

On 10/16/06, Gordon Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Has anyone got the Teletronics XI-325HP 200mW PRISM 2.5-based PCMCIA card
to work under freebsd 5.4, which I currently run?  or 6.x?

The Teletronics XI-325HP 200mW PRISM 2.5-based PCMCIA card is
high on my list of possible cards with external antenna jacks to buy.

Older reports say they had to flash firmware back to 1.5.6 on
the card to get it working under Freebsd 4.x.  Current firmware
as sold now appears to be 1.8.4 or higher.  Seems like a big
jump backwards to take.



Thats a rebranded zcom card, should have RP-MMCX antenna connector. It
depend what you want to do with the card?, IIRC secondary firmware
1.8.4 / primary 1.1.1 doesn't support hostap mode... IIRC you'll have
to reflash it with secondary 1.7.4 ~ 1.4.9 (I forget which is best) to
get hostap mode working. I have all the firmware, utilites, and docs
if you need them. Secondary firmware 1.7.4 and up supports WPA and
1.3.7 and up supports Prism 3 chipsets. I forget which firmwares
supports 802.11d but I know 1.8.4 does. I think I have the secondary
firmware changelog up to 1.4.9, primary firmware changelog up to 1.1.0
and a 2003 version of the driver programmers manual.
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Re: Nvidia on CURRENT...

2006-10-16 Thread Anders Troback
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:31:15 +0100
Joao Barros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 10/16/06, Anders Troback [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  X can't use the nvidia module and kldunload nvidia causes: Fatal
  trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode.
 
  Any ideas?
 
  Thanks!!!
 
 
  PS. CURRENT cvsuped 6 hours ago!
 
 
 Try recompiling the nvidia module. When recompiling a new kernel
 version always remind yourself to recompile the nvidia driver aswell
 :)
 

Thanks but I did remember that this time:-)

More ideas?

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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-16 Thread William Tracy

Well, thanks for all the replies. I didn't mean to rub anybody the
wrong way, and if I did, I'm sorry. :-P

Up until now, I've basically been running FreeBSD more or less like
just another Linux distro, and was beginning to wonder if I was really
missing out on something by doing that. That, and I thought I'd give
the fanboys a chance to praise their pet OS. :-)

Overall, it sounds like I was on the right track, though. FreeBSD has
its pros and cons, but it's fundamentally just another Unix-like
system. Which is a good thing! ;-)

For the record, I really, really, like Debian (and now Ubuntu). I
understand that there are packages that allow the Debian packaging
system to run on top of the FreeBSD kernel, and I'll definitely have
try that out sometime.

Anyway, FreeBSD is great, and I'll keep playing with it. :-)

William
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Re: Choosing Bash and Gnome

2006-10-16 Thread Michael S
Gnome:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html
bash:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/shells.html

--- Robe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 
 This is the first time I use FreeBSD. I've the
 version 6.1. During the
 installation I've choose the Bash as the shell and
 Gnome. However when I'm
 in the shell I see that it's not Bash. And when I
 type *startx* the
 Graphical environment is not Gnome.
 
 
 
 Does anybody know how can I use Bash and Gnome?
 
 
 
 I want it because those are which I've used in Linux
  ;-)
 
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 when I hit a home run.
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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-16 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Monday October 16, 2006 at 02:00:57 (PM) Jonathan Horne wrote:


 didnt know shit from shinola.

I haven't heard that since I was a kid. Just in case someone does not
know where the saying originated from:

 http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/114000.html

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Network MSN/Chat sniffer for Freebsd?

2006-10-16 Thread Ansar Mohammed
Hello All,
does anyone know where we can get a MSN/Chat sniffer for Freebsd?
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Re: Upgrading in the same RELENG without shutdown ?

2006-10-16 Thread bsd
From what I have read so far I guess I'll stick to the 'classic'  
procedure and boot in single user to do the merging things.


A little trip to my Data Center //


Thanks.

Le 16 oct. 06 à 20:01, david coder a écrit :

i save myself some time by removing files from subdirectories of / 
etc whose
contents i never modify,  using the -i option to mergemaster the  
2nd time.
you might (or might not) find the following scripts useful, edited  
to meet

your needs (the 2nd is obviously intended to be run in single-user):

# cat buildsys
rm -rf /usr/obj  \
cd /usr/src  \
make buildworld  \
make kernel KERNCONF=KEROUAC

# cat installsys
mount -u /  \
mount -a  \
cd /usr/src  \
mergemaster -p  \
make installworld  \
rm -rf /etc/bluetooth/*  \
rm -rf /etc/defaults/*  \
rm -rf /etc/gnats/*  \
rm -rf /etc/isdn/*  \
rm -rf /etc/mtree/*  \
rm -rf /etc/pam.d/*  \
rm -rf /etc/periodic/*  \
rm -rf /etc/ppp/*  \
rm -rf /etc/rc.d/*  \
rm -rf /etc/security/*  \
rm -rf /etc/skel/*  \
rm -rf /etc/ssl/*  \
mergemaster -i  \
rm -rf /usr/obj/*

i guess it's obvious that the 2nd script is designed to be run in  
single user
 that the point of concatenating the commands in each script is to  
stop the

proceedings cold in case there's a failure at any stage.

at the very least, i'd reboot after running the 1st script to make  
sure the
kernel works.  you might have problems w/ a new system  an old  
kernel.


+++ Jonathan Horne [16/10/06 12:40 -0500]:

Hello,


I have CVS-UP configured to follow RELENG_5_4

I was wondering if there is a way to patch (upgrading from 5.4-
RELEASE-p8 to a higher version) my system without going into the
classic :

# make -j4 buildworld
# make -j4 buildkernel
# make -j4 installkernel
# shutdown now

And booting in single user //

# fsck -p
# mount -u /
# mount -a -t ufs
# swapon -a

# cd /usr/src
# mergemaster -p



My system is in production and I am not onsite so this is a problem
for me to have to boot in single user mode.

Is there a way to keep the system in multi-user mode while doing  
this ?


And what are the risks if any ?



Sincerly yours.





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it can be done, but it is NOT guaranteed safe.  i do it, but your  
might
not be the same as mine.  my system is a *low* traffic system, and  
i am
the only user.  the system is however running apache2, mysql, and  
some

other daemons.

again, your mileage may vary, this is what i do:

1) make buildworld, and make buildkernel.
2) make installkernel
3) cd /usr/src, mergemaster -p, make installworld, mergemaster.
4) reboot.

hth,
jonathan

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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-16 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 10:45:55AM -0700, Simon Gao wrote:

 I have a few FreeBSD machine from 4.x to 5.x. I have asked people how to
 upgrade them to latest version 6.x cleanly. All I was told is that I
 need to wipe them out and reinstall. However, this is not the case with
 Gentoo Linux. With Gentoo, version release does not matter that much,
 you can always keep your system up to date if you like. Of cause, you
 can also choose staying at a certain version.

You don't have to do a fresh install.  Just follow the upgrade
instructions in the handbook and it will probably work.   But
a clean install might be good.   I think there may be some file
system changes that you won't get without a clean install because
the file systems would be already built so the new version would
use the existing form, but I don't remember if that is between 4.x and 5.x 
or between 5.x and 6.x.

Anyway, the original question wasn't why you don't like FreeBSD,
it was why people do like FreeBSD.

jerry

 
 Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices.
 
 Simon
 
 
 
 Jim Stapleton wrote:
  Well, in my case:
 
  - No matter what method I use to install packages in Linux (Apt-Get,
  Yum, Deb, RPM, and to a much lesser extent, Emerge, and to a *MUCH*
  greater extent src tar.gz's), I tend to have a lot more trouble
  getting installs to finish than with BSD in ports.
 
  - The FreeBSD community is much more friendly and helpful than the
  Linux community, in my experience. Gentoo's is better than other Linux
  communities, but still not quite up to FreeBSD.
 
  - I notice a lot smaller number of It's 'X' liscence, therefore it
  has to be good, or It's open source therefore it has to be good
  fanboys in FreeBSD. The users tend to be more of a It works, so it's
  good type. This really makes the commmunity pleasant.
 
  - The documentation of FreeBSD is much better in both organization and
  detail - while good documentation can be found for Linux, FreeBSD just
  takes a lot less searching.
 
  - I've found a lot of breaks in Linux where I couldn't find anything
  short of a system re-install to fix them without a lot more effort in
  searching for some obscure piece of documentation. Aside from once
  when I blew up my kernel build, I didn't have that problem in BSD.
 
  - It's less popular than Linux, so it's less commonly known/accounted
  for, and it makes you just that much safer from hackers.
 
 
 
  Note: that's not to say it doesn't have it's issues, like every other
  OS, I could name a few dozen issues I've run into with FreeBSD without
  much hassle (mostly related to drivers, UI, and parts of the
  installer), but that's a different topic alltogether.
 
  -Jim
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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-16 Thread Damian Wiest
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 01:38:59PM -0700, William Tracy wrote:
 Well, thanks for all the replies. I didn't mean to rub anybody the
 wrong way, and if I did, I'm sorry. :-P
 
 Up until now, I've basically been running FreeBSD more or less like
 just another Linux distro, and was beginning to wonder if I was really
 missing out on something by doing that. That, and I thought I'd give
 the fanboys a chance to praise their pet OS. :-)
 
 Overall, it sounds like I was on the right track, though. FreeBSD has
 its pros and cons, but it's fundamentally just another Unix-like
 system. Which is a good thing! ;-)

It's not just another Unix-like system, it _is_ a Unix system.

 For the record, I really, really, like Debian (and now Ubuntu). I
 understand that there are packages that allow the Debian packaging
 system to run on top of the FreeBSD kernel, and I'll definitely have
 try that out sometime.
 
 Anyway, FreeBSD is great, and I'll keep playing with it. :-)
 
 William

-Damian
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Re: Teletronics wlan 200mW card supported under 5.x?

2006-10-16 Thread Gordon Pedersen
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 03:34:55PM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote:
 On 10/16/06, Gordon Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Has anyone got the Teletronics XI-325HP 200mW PRISM 2.5-based PCMCIA card
 to work under freebsd 5.4, which I currently run?  or 6.x?
 
 Older reports say they had to flash firmware back to 1.5.6 on
 the card to get it working under Freebsd 4.x.  Current firmware
 as sold now appears to be 1.8.4 or higher.  Seems like a big
 jump backwards to take.
 
 
 Thats a rebranded zcom card, should have RP-MMCX antenna connector. It

Yes, has RP-MMCX exposed after you remove the internal antenna
piece, according to my info.

 depend what you want to do with the card?, IIRC secondary firmware

I want to use it in laptop as client, not as AP.  I like it due
to good sensitivity vs cost.

 ... Secondary firmware 1.7.4 and up supports WPA and

Would want WPA, wonder if 1.7.4 will work under freebsd 6.x?

 ... forget which firmwares
 supports 802.11d but I know 1.8.4 does. I think I have the secondary

So I wonder where 802.11d is needed?  For instance, anywhere in
Europe or Latin America or China?
 

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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-16 Thread Jim Stapleton

I have a few FreeBSD machine from 4.x to 5.x. I have asked people how to
upgrade them to latest version 6.x cleanly. All I was told is that I
need to wipe them out and reinstall. However, this is not the case with
Gentoo Linux. With Gentoo, version release does not matter that much,
you can always keep your system up to date if you like. Of cause, you
can also choose staying at a certain version.


I'm gonna join the whoever said this was on crack club. Going
between major versions can be a challange due to mergebastard and the
various config file change, but Gentoo's setup is really no different
in that respect.

However, when you want to compile the Kernel, the FreeBSD system is
much mroe useful than that of Gentoo. I failed my first kernel build
on FreeBSD (custom kernel config) before it booted properly, and have
since done several more without issue.

With Gentoo, after about half a dozen attempts at optimizing my kernel
for my notebook, I gave up and used Genkernel, which was not as
efficient, but at least worked.



Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices.


Spend an extra 5 minutes researching your hardware before buying, more
often than not, this'll save you the issues.
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Re: Installing Oracle Client 10g on FreeBSD

2006-10-16 Thread Martin Hudec

Hello Vladimir,

Vladimir Terziev wrote:

I'll be very thankful if you provide working instructions how to 
intermix FreeBSD and Linux libraries.
Thanks in advance!


I sense bit of irony here, but I hope I just have wrong feeling :).
Mixing BSD and Linux libs? Well - what do you say on using native 
Firefox with linux flash plugin? Works too.


I will try to do it, and let's hope I'll be able to get oracle 
connection to test simple perl script as without it I am bit lost (I 
used only client stuff, not full oracle database).


Martin
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openoffice for amd64

2006-10-16 Thread Stroganov A. V.
Hello

I've FreeBSD 6.2 prerelease for amd64. When i start OOo, which i
installed using package from Good-Day, these messages are printed:

/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libstdc++.so.6 not found, required
by javaldx
/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libstdc++.so.6 not found, required
by pagein
/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libstdc++.so.6 not found, required
by soffice.bin

Could you help?

Thank you.

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python-mode in emacs

2006-10-16 Thread Svein Halvor Halvorsen
Emacs doesn't seem to load files in /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp
installed by ports. E.g python-mode installs files in this directory,
but python-mode is not available in emacs afterwards. I have to manually
tell emacs to look in these files.

Are there any way to get emacs to automatically read files in this
directory? Am I missing something? Shouldn't the ports system by default
be setup in a way that this would work?


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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-16 Thread Damian Wiest
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 05:41:31PM -0400, Jim Stapleton wrote:
 I have a few FreeBSD machine from 4.x to 5.x. I have asked people how to
 upgrade them to latest version 6.x cleanly. All I was told is that I
 need to wipe them out and reinstall. However, this is not the case with
 Gentoo Linux. With Gentoo, version release does not matter that much,
 you can always keep your system up to date if you like. Of cause, you
 can also choose staying at a certain version.
 
 I'm gonna join the whoever said this was on crack club. Going
 between major versions can be a challange due to mergebastard and the
 various config file change, but Gentoo's setup is really no different
 in that respect.
 
 However, when you want to compile the Kernel, the FreeBSD system is
 much mroe useful than that of Gentoo. I failed my first kernel build
 on FreeBSD (custom kernel config) before it booted properly, and have
 since done several more without issue.
 
 With Gentoo, after about half a dozen attempts at optimizing my kernel
 for my notebook, I gave up and used Genkernel, which was not as
 efficient, but at least worked.
 
 
 Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices.
 
 Spend an extra 5 minutes researching your hardware before buying, more
 often than not, this'll save you the issues.

I don't mean to bring the conversation from [EMAIL PROTECTED] over here, but
you should understand why Linux supports more devices as it's important
if you truly want to support open source principles.

Basically, the Linux distributions are okay with using and redistributing 
binary drivers supplied by vendors.  Rather than fighting for 
documentation (some vendors refuse to tell people how to use what they
just paid for), they just roll over and run the closed source binary; 
possibly also redistributing them illegally.  While this may allow you 
to use a particular piece of hardware in the short-term, in the 
long-term it's counterproductive since you're now dependent on the vendor 
supporting your device.  What happens if your O.S. is too small for the 
vendor to worry about?  What happens if the vendor goes out of business?  
What happens if the vendor drops support?  If you use binary blobs, 
you're fscked.  Don't do it.  Instead, support vendors that support 
open source software developers.

-Damian
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Re: python-mode in emacs

2006-10-16 Thread cpghost
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 12:56:01AM +0200, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote:
 Emacs doesn't seem to load files in /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp
 installed by ports. E.g python-mode installs files in this directory,
 but python-mode is not available in emacs afterwards. I have to manually
 tell emacs to look in these files.

Well, it doesn't cause any harm to add to your ~/.emacs

;; Add python-mode
(autoload 'python-mode python-mode Python editing mode. t)
(setq auto-mode-alist
  (cons '(\\.py$ . python-mode) auto-mode-alist))
(add-hook 'python-mode-hook 'turn-on-font-lock)

 Are there any way to get emacs to automatically read files in this
 directory? Am I missing something? Shouldn't the ports system by default
 be setup in a way that this would work?

I don't know. But having Emacs auto-load every mode from there
doesn't seem a good idea. And the port can't do that either, since
it's a per-user decision.

   Svein Halvor

Regards,
-cpghost.

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Re: python-mode in emacs

2006-10-16 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote:


Emacs doesn't seem to load files in /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp
installed by ports. E.g python-mode installs files in this directory,
but python-mode is not available in emacs afterwards. I have to manually
tell emacs to look in these files.

Are there any way to get emacs to automatically read files in this
directory? Am I missing something? Shouldn't the ports system by default
be setup in a way that this would work?


My emacs compiled out of ports does look in that directory by default.

In emacs do ESC-x describe-variable load-path which tells you where 
emacs is looking.  Mine is


(/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/site-lisp 
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp /usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/leim 
/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp 
/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/toolbar 
/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/textmodes 
/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/progmodes 
/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/play 
/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/obsolete 
/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/net 
/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/mail 
/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/language 
/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/international 
/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/gnus 
/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/eshell 
/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/emulation 
/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/emacs-lisp 
/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/calendar)


and as you can see second entry is /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp

Assuming it is missing for you, then you could add something like this 
to your .emacs


(set-variable 'load-path (append '(/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp) 
load-path))


but that sticks it at the end, so anything there won't override 
defaults, which is not so good.


Make sure you environment does not set EMACSLOADPATH which would 
override compile-time defaults.


hth,

--Alex





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datalink VPN ?

2006-10-16 Thread Marwan Sultan

Hello Gurus,

  After reading the handbook part
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ipsec.html

  I have two questions please,
  I have a dynamic IP in both, my main office and one of the branches
  How i'm going to tell vpn configuration, tunnel gif0 devices that its a 
dynamic IP

  and should look for it everytime the ip changes ?
  and if i should use of of any dynamic dns services, how would the 
configuration

  take the hostname not the IPs? is it possible?

  Also our internet provider provides a datalink connection between the 
office and one of the
  branches without internet (just datalink), (and using two cisco routers 
only)

  any hint for freebsd vpn with no internet? maybe the datalink ?

  Marwan Sultan

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Redistribution of FreeBSD

2006-10-16 Thread Doel-Mackaway, Richard
I am currently developing course material for students relating to
server installations. Does the FreeBSD license allow me to download
FreeBSD and redistribute that download to students?


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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-16 Thread Joerg Pernfuss
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:38:59 -0700
William Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 For the record, I really, really, like Debian (and now Ubuntu). I
 understand that there are packages that allow the Debian packaging
 system to run on top of the FreeBSD kernel, and I'll definitely have
 try that out sometime.
 
 Anyway, FreeBSD is great, and I'll keep playing with it. :-)

Sounds like you think of that Debian GNU/kFreeBSD thing.

While it may be a nice porting effort for the Debian team, and surely
fits the Linux development model to take bit (a) from here, bit (b)
from there, (c) from somewhere else, throw everything into autoconf
and hope it works - this totally kills the entire point about using
FreeBSD.

I like the FreeBSD kernel. I really do. But by itself, it is nothing
I either dream of or start drooling when someone mentions it. I think
somewhere I read of GNU userland with the known for its stability
FreeBSD kernel (can't remember exactly where). narf. NARF!

The strong point of FreeBSD is that the entire OS is in one repo
and is developed together. And that is were a lot of this stability
comes from. That is why it works like it does. Ripping out the kernel
and glueing it ontop of something else... no.

Other things the FreeBSD kernel offers, like netgraph for example, to
the best of my knowledge, they lack the userland tools to use that
stuff to its full extent.

Joerg

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Re: Redistribution of FreeBSD

2006-10-16 Thread Josh Paetzel
On Monday 16 October 2006 18:44, Doel-Mackaway, Richard wrote:
 I am currently developing course material for students relating to
 server installations. Does the FreeBSD license allow me to download
 FreeBSD and redistribute that download to students?


Yes.  You can even charge them for it if you want. :)  About the only 
thing you can't do is claim your wrote it. ;)

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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-16 Thread Garrett Cooper

Jim Stapleton wrote:

I have a few FreeBSD machine from 4.x to 5.x. I have asked people how to
upgrade them to latest version 6.x cleanly. All I was told is that I
need to wipe them out and reinstall. However, this is not the case with
Gentoo Linux. With Gentoo, version release does not matter that much,
you can always keep your system up to date if you like. Of cause, you
can also choose staying at a certain version.


I'm gonna join the whoever said this was on crack club. Going
between major versions can be a challange due to mergebastard and the
various config file change, but Gentoo's setup is really no different
in that respect.

However, when you want to compile the Kernel, the FreeBSD system is
much mroe useful than that of Gentoo. I failed my first kernel build
on FreeBSD (custom kernel config) before it booted properly, and have
since done several more without issue.

With Gentoo, after about half a dozen attempts at optimizing my kernel
for my notebook, I gave up and used Genkernel, which was not as
efficient, but at least worked.
No offense to those who swear by it (and I know this is a bit 
off-topic), but genkernel is shit. It's kernel compiling for people who 
are afraid of forgetting make commands..

-Garrett



Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices.


Spend an extra 5 minutes researching your hardware before buying, more
often than not, this'll save you the issues.

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Re: python-mode in emacs

2006-10-16 Thread Svein Halvor Halvorsen
cpghost wrote:
 Well, it doesn't cause any harm to add to your ~/.emacs
 
 ;; Add python-mode
 (autoload 'python-mode python-mode Python editing mode. t)
 (setq auto-mode-alist
   (cons '(\\.py$ . python-mode) auto-mode-alist))
 (add-hook 'python-mode-hook 'turn-on-font-lock)
 
 Are there any way to get emacs to automatically read files in this
 directory? Am I missing something? Shouldn't the ports system by default
 be setup in a way that this would work?
 
 I don't know. But having Emacs auto-load every mode from there
 doesn't seem a good idea. And the port can't do that either, since
 it's a per-user decision.

I wasn't suggesting emacs autoload every mode, but rather that emacs
simply read the files, and offer me the choice of using modes defines in
such files.

E.g. do the same as
$emacs -l /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/python-mode.el

If I start emacs by just typing emacs, and then use esc-x
python-mode is not an option. However, If I use the -l option,
python-mode is not automatically loaded, but emacs will then offer me
the option of loading it later.


Your suggested additions to my .emacs file, seems to work, though.


Svein Halvor



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Re: python-mode in emacs

2006-10-16 Thread Svein Halvor Halvorsen
Alex Zbyslaw wrote:
 In emacs do ESC-x describe-variable load-path which tells you where
 emacs is looking.

/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp shows up!

 Make sure you environment does not set EMACSLOADPATH which would
 override compile-time defaults.

This is not set.

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Re: Performance 4.x vs. 6.x

2006-10-16 Thread Danial Thom


--- Mark Linimon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 02:01:08PM -0400,
 Michael Butler wrote:
  For everyone's benefit then, please feel free
 to submit your patches
  along with your technical analysis.
 
 I think his best bet is a fork, instead.  Then
 he can tell all the people
 that volunteer to work on _his_ project exactly
 what to do, and see how
 far he gets with that approach.
 
 As an extra-special bonus, since it's the BSD
 license, he can start with
 whatever version of FreeBSD he finds most meets
 his needs.
 
 Even better, with his own project, he can then
 redirect all his postings
 there and leave the rest of us in peace.
 
 Until then, I think I'll watch out for any
 flying monkeys.  I consider
 their existance equally probable.
 
 mcl

Why do I need to start a project? Matt Dillon is
already doing it.

One thing that Matt has proved is that IQ isn't
cumulative. Because hes doing on his own what an
entire team of FreeBSD engineers can't do. But
hey, you're not getting paid, so I guess we
shouldn't expect anything good. Bravo for trying
guys. We appreciate your wasted efforts.

I'm not nearly as concerned about the project at
this point. Dfly will be usable before freebsd,
and at least we know there's someone that knows
what they're doing over there. What concerns me
is the lying to all of the small businessman out
there. People wasting their money on hardware
that freebsd can't utilize. And you clowns
telling them how great it is. Its just plain
dishonest.

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bittorrent consuming 100% cpu

2006-10-16 Thread Matthew Rench
Hello,

Due to the recent security advisor, I upgraded my python port. Foolishly,
I managed to upgrade from version 2.4 to 2.5, which forced me to also upgrade
my bittorrent port (from version 3.x to 4.20.2_1,1). Unfortunately, I now
find that the bittorrent console app (/usr/local/bin/bittorrent-console)
now consumes 100% of my CPU, according to top. I am quite sure that even
5-10 instances of the previous version did not together use this much CPU.

So, I ktrace'd a running copy of bittorrent, and found the following,
repeated more or less continually:

493 python   1161045605.243985 CALL  poll(0x8138000,0x5,0xe)
493 python   1161045605.272699 RET   poll 0
493 python   1161045605.272750 CALL  gettimeofday(0x281dd788,0)
493 python   1161045605.272783 RET   gettimeofday 0
493 python   1161045605.273029 CALL  gettimeofday(0xbfbfec94,0)
493 python   1161045605.273097 RET   gettimeofday 0
493 python   1161045605.273865 CALL  gettimeofday(0xbfbfdf34,0)
493 python   1161045605.273955 RET   gettimeofday 0
493 python   1161045605.274837 CALL  gettimeofday(0xbfbfe014,0)
493 python   1161045605.274920 RET   gettimeofday 0
493 python   1161045605.275304 CALL  gettimeofday(0xbfbfdd14,0)
493 python   1161045605.275375 RET   gettimeofday 0
493 python   1161045605.276452 CALL  gettimeofday(0xbfbfec94,0)
493 python   1161045605.276543 RET   gettimeofday 0
493 python   1161045605.276758 CALL  poll(0x87ede20,0x3,0)
493 python   1161045605.276845 RET   poll 0
493 python   1161045605.276909 CALL  poll(0x8138000,0x4,0)
493 python   1161045605.276956 RET   poll 0
493 python   1161045605.276998 CALL  poll(0x8138000,0x5,0x14)
493 python   1161045605.302720 RET   poll 0

Since I don't know much about python, I'm at a loss to explain this. Has
anyone else had similar issues with newer versions of bittorrent? Is there
a different client I should be using?

mdr
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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-16 Thread Anders Gulden Olstad
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William Tracy wrote:
 So, basically, I'm asking you guys to wow me. :-) Show me how FreeBSD
 can outdo Linux. Make me never want to go back.

I like the separation of the complete OS and third part software in
Ports Collection. I love the ability to upgrade from one major release
to another using source upgrade - without doing a complete reinstall, as
with the Linux distros I've used. I went straight from 5.4- 6.1 without
any hassle. The EOL schedule for Fedora is almost killing me, and every
new release means a complete reinstall - in practice.

I boot FreeBSD far more often than Linux these days. What I still lack
is getting my Bluetooth and GPRS Cellphone dial-up link running...and
VMWare.

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portaudit thinks a vulnerability just disappeared

2006-10-16 Thread James Long
I have a 4.11-RELEASE system.

Prior to doing some minor portupdates, I had this portaudit report:

Checking for packages with security vulnerabilities:

Affected package: php4-4.4.1_3
Type of problem: php -- open_basedir Race Condition Vulnerability.
Reference: 
http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/edabe438-542f-11db-a5ae-00508d6a62df.html

Affected package: php4-4.4.1_3
Type of problem: php -- multiple vulnerabilities.
Reference: 
http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/ea09c5df-4362-11db-81e1-000e0c2e438a.html

Affected package: ruby-1.8.4_3,1
Type of problem: ruby - multiple vulnerabilities.
Reference: 
http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/76562594-1f19-11db-b7d4-0008743bf21a.html

Affected package: apache+mod_ssl-1.3.34+2.8.25_2
Type of problem: apache -- mod_rewrite buffer overflow vulnerability.
Reference: 
http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/dc8c08c7-1e7c-11db-88cf-000c6ec775d9.html

Affected package: mutt-1.4.2.1_2
Type of problem: mutt -- Remote Buffer Overflow Vulnerability.
Reference: 
http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/d2a43243-087b-11db-bc36-0008743bf21a.html

5 problem(s) in your installed packages found.


I cvsup'ped my ports tree and portupgraded ruby, mutt and portaudit, 
but not any of their dependencies (since version number changes were 
minor).

portaudit -aF now thinks:

www : 17:59:17 /root# portaudit -aF
auditfile.tbz 100% of   38 kB  138 kBps
New database installed.
Affected package: php4-4.4.1_3
Type of problem: php -- open_basedir Race Condition Vulnerability.
Reference: 
http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/edabe438-542f-11db-a5ae-00508d6a62df.html

Affected package: php4-4.4.1_3
Type of problem: php -- multiple vulnerabilities.
Reference: 
http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/ea09c5df-4362-11db-81e1-000e0c2e438a.html

2 problem(s) in your installed packages found.


Why does portaudit think the apache+mod_ssl problem went away?  The 
installed version is still:

apache+mod_ssl-1.3.34+2.8.25_2 The Apache 1.3 webserver with SSL/TLS 
functionality


Thanks!

Jim
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Re: Upgrading in the same RELENG without shutdown ?

2006-10-16 Thread Olivier Nicole
Hi,

 I was wondering if there is a way to patch (upgrading from 5.4- 
 RELEASE-p8 to a higher version) my system without going into the  
 classic :

Considering that the system is like 10,000 km away,I cannot pay it a
visit when I need to boot to single mode.

So, I doeverything in multi user mode, knowing that there is no user
connected to the system (web server).

Though I do reboot every time that the procedure expects me to reboot,
event if it is rebooting in multi -instead of single- user mode.

It worked fine so far.

Olivier
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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-16 Thread Jim Stapleton

No offense to those who swear by it (and I know this is a bit
off-topic), but genkernel is shit. It's kernel compiling for people who
are afraid of forgetting make commands..
-Garrett


I agree, but since I couldn't get a decent custom kernel booting, that
was my only option.


And speaking of sht, in regards to Damiens last comment - I honestly
don't believe that it's just binary drivers that keeps Linux with
better driver support - there are more OSS drivers there too. The
reason? It's fecal - linux only; cares that it works, they care much
less about documentation and quality. It's enticing to the a lot of
the developers and made the community larger - Hey I can spend my
time coding how I want instead of following standards and wasting time
with documentation!!. Don't get me wrong, I think binary drivers due
play an issue, by my BSD desktop had binary drivers in it too, they
just weren't supplied with the BSD images (I don't think they would
have been stored with linux images either).

anyway, just another two cents of my own.

-Jim Stapleton
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Re: Redistribution of FreeBSD

2006-10-16 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 09:44:52AM +1000, Doel-Mackaway, Richard wrote:

 I am currently developing course material for students relating to
 server installations. Does the FreeBSD license allow me to download
 FreeBSD and redistribute that download to students?

Yes.

Read about it on the FreeBSD web site.

jerry

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Re: Performance 4.x vs. 6.x

2006-10-16 Thread RoBeRT B

If you see/grep Danial Thom in FreeBSD related, consider this:

http://www.netfunny.com/rhf/jokes/88q1/13785.8.html
http://amasci.com/weird/flamer.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flame_war

My personal fav' is the first link...

How do we know that 'DT' even exists? Hmmm.

DT - S, go away for you do not exist.

RB.

On 10/16/06, Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



--- Mark Linimon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 02:01:08PM -0400,
 Michael Butler wrote:
  For everyone's benefit then, please feel free
 to submit your patches
  along with your technical analysis.

 I think his best bet is a fork, instead.  Then
 he can tell all the people
 that volunteer to work on _his_ project exactly
 what to do, and see how
 far he gets with that approach.

 As an extra-special bonus, since it's the BSD
 license, he can start with
 whatever version of FreeBSD he finds most meets
 his needs.

 Even better, with his own project, he can then
 redirect all his postings
 there and leave the rest of us in peace.

 Until then, I think I'll watch out for any
 flying monkeys.  I consider
 their existance equally probable.

 mcl

Why do I need to start a project? Matt Dillon is
already doing it.

One thing that Matt has proved is that IQ isn't
cumulative. Because hes doing on his own what an
entire team of FreeBSD engineers can't do. But
hey, you're not getting paid, so I guess we
shouldn't expect anything good. Bravo for trying
guys. We appreciate your wasted efforts.

I'm not nearly as concerned about the project at
this point. Dfly will be usable before freebsd,
and at least we know there's someone that knows
what they're doing over there. What concerns me
is the lying to all of the small businessman out
there. People wasting their money on hardware
that freebsd can't utilize. And you clowns
telling them how great it is. Its just plain
dishonest.

DT

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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-16 Thread Garrett Cooper

Jim Stapleton wrote:

No offense to those who swear by it (and I know this is a bit
off-topic), but genkernel is shit. It's kernel compiling for people who
are afraid of forgetting make commands..
-Garrett


I agree, but since I couldn't get a decent custom kernel booting, that
was my only option.

Ok, fair enough I suppose.

And speaking of sht, in regards to Damiens last comment - I honestly
don't believe that it's just binary drivers that keeps Linux with
better driver support - there are more OSS drivers there too. The
reason? It's fecal - linux only; cares that it works, they care much
less about documentation and quality. It's enticing to the a lot of
the developers and made the community larger - Hey I can spend my
time coding how I want instead of following standards and wasting time
with documentation!!. Don't get me wrong, I think binary drivers due
play an issue, by my BSD desktop had binary drivers in it too, they
just weren't supplied with the BSD images (I don't think they would
have been stored with linux images either).

anyway, just another two cents of my own.

-Jim Stapleton
Err... well, arguably a lot more of the Linux community may be 
individuals with a hacker mindset as opposed to a developer mindset. 
Just a thought.

-Garrett

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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-16 Thread Robert Huff
Anders Gulden Olstad writes:

   I love the ability to upgrade from one major release to
  another using source upgrade - without doing a complete
  reinstall, as with the Linux distros I've used.

It is worth noting that at least once - I think it was 3.x -
4,0 - this was not the case.


Robert Huff
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User vs Kernel mode

2006-10-16 Thread Olivier Nicole
Hi,

I have an application that is running on virtual tty 0, i start it the
following way:

/etc/ttys
ttyv0   /usr/libexec/getty Door   cons25  on  secure

/etc/gettytab
Door:   :ht:np:sp#115200:al=door:

/etc/passwd
door:*:0:0:Run the door program:/usr/local/door:/usr/local/door/door

While the application is launched by getty, I would like to know if it
is running in user mode or in kernel mode.

I think in user mode, and so there is no reason why it should affect
other processes, even if my application had some memory management
problems.
Best regards,

Olivier

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Re: User vs Kernel mode

2006-10-16 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Tuesday, 17 October 2006 at  9:35:14 +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote:
 Hi,

 I have an application that is running on virtual tty 0, i start it the
 following way:

 /etc/ttys
 ttyv0   /usr/libexec/getty Door   cons25  on  secure

 /etc/gettytab
 Door:   :ht:np:sp#115200:al=door:

 /etc/passwd
 door:*:0:0:Run the door program:/usr/local/door:/usr/local/door/door

 While the application is launched by getty, I would like to know if it
 is running in user mode or in kernel mode.

Processes always start in kernel mode, because they're started by the
kernel.  They typically spend most of their time in kernel mode (for
example, whenever they're idle or waiting for I/O).  An active process
may switch back and forward between kernel mode and user mode
thousands of times a second.

 I think in user mode, and so there is no reason why it should affect
 other processes, even if my application had some memory management
 problems.

A process which spends all its time in user mode is looping :-) 

Maybe you should describe your problem.

Greg
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Re: FreeBSD Loader

2006-10-16 Thread Eric Schuele

On 10/15/06 10:35, Nathan Lasseter wrote:

Hi
I tried to install FreeBSD, but Windows hogs all the drivespace. Now 
after aborting the installer, every time I power on, the Loader appears. 
How do I remove it?


Google fdisk /mbr:
  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/69013

HTH


Thanks
Nathan.

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Re: User vs Kernel mode

2006-10-16 Thread Olivier Nicole
 Processes always start in kernel mode, because they're started by the
 kernel.  They typically spend most of their time in kernel mode (for
 example, whenever they're idle or waiting for I/O).  An active process
 may switch back and forward between kernel mode and user mode
 thousands of times a second.

Thanks for the clarification.

 Maybe you should describe your problem.
 
The application has been working fine for almost 3 years, along with
Apache, going through RELENG upgrade without problem.

Now I start noticing that Apache hangs (sig 11), either manually built
or port built, make buildworld hanged once with sig 11, my application
hangs with sig 11.

2 options:

- I added memory in the machine and the meory is causing problems.

- I changed my application a little bit and it started eating
  other processes.

Yesterday make buildworld consistenly hanged on building groff, today
after cleaning the memory (using plain rubber on DIMM contacts) it is
going fine (although Apache did hang since the cleaning).

So I'd like to be sure that my application cannot eat other processes,
so i could eliminate one cause.

Bests,

Olivier
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Automated installations

2006-10-16 Thread valentin_nils

Hello FreeBSD fans,

I am in search of an tool for automated installations. SOmething like  
Kickstart or Autoyast for Linux - just the BSD-able version ;-)


Is anybody aware of such a tool that I perhaps overlooked or anybody  
perhaps currently developing one ?


Best regards

Nils Valentin
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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-16 Thread jan gestre



Ok, make that 3: Ports
I really don't miss rpm hell.



yeah the ports make me fell in love with FreeBSD, the only thing that came
close to FreeBSD  ports is the gentoo portage,  note came close but not
really at par.

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Re: Automated installations

2006-10-16 Thread George Allan
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 02:46:08AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am in search of an tool for automated installations. SOmething like
 Kickstart or Autoyast for Linux - just the BSD-able version ;-)
 
 Is anybody aware of such a tool that I perhaps overlooked or anybody  
 perhaps currently developing one ?

sysinstall(8) is your friend.
pxeboot(8) will buy the drinks. 

Be sure to read through Section 2 of the fine Handbook.

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Re: User vs Kernel mode

2006-10-16 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Tuesday, 17 October 2006 at  9:52:17 +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote:
 Processes always start in kernel mode, because they're started by the
 kernel.  They typically spend most of their time in kernel mode (for
 example, whenever they're idle or waiting for I/O).  An active process
 may switch back and forward between kernel mode and user mode
 thousands of times a second.

 Thanks for the clarification.

 Maybe you should describe your problem.

 The application has been working fine for almost 3 years, along with
 Apache, going through RELENG upgrade without problem.

 Now I start noticing that Apache hangs (sig 11),

A hang is when the system stops reacting.  Signal 11 is not a hang:
it's a segmentation violation, which means that the program has
performed a specific kind of illegal operation.

In the case of a program that used to work well, this almost
invariably means that you have hardware problems.

 2 options:

 - I added memory in the machine and the meory is causing problems.

Yes, this is possible

 - I changed my application a little bit and it started eating
   other processes.

This is less likely.

 So I'd like to be sure that my application cannot eat other
 processes, so i could eliminate one cause.

Don't even think about this at the moment.  If you have just installed
new memory and these problems occur, try taking it out again and
seeing if the problem goes away.

Greg
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