Re: Problem about ppp -nat

2008-11-21 Thread Fbsd1

Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote:

Hi All,

I have just subscribed to freebsd-questions and I have a question about ppp 
-nat.

I have 2 computers. One is running FreeBSD-7.0R, the other is running WinXP. 
The host running FBSD7.0R has been connecting to the outside world using 
user-ppp without any problem for very long. Now I want to share internet access 
to the other host behind NAT through this FBSD host.
My FBSD machine has 2 interfaces i.e.
tun0 (connecting to ISP) with dynamic IP (of course)
fxp0 (for internal LAN) with static IP of 192.168.1.10
My WinXP machine has 1 interface (internal LAN) with static IP of 192.168.1.11

Previously I have a router acting as a gateway for all machines behind NAT. But 
now I want FBSD machine to work as a gateway. I have never done this before. I 
tried some googling with reading ppp(8) and ipfw(8). And I tried masquerading 
but it didn't work. I have plenty configuration files. But the relevant 
configurations are listed here.

/etc/rc.conf
# enable IP forwarding
gateway_enable=YES
# previously I ran web-server, just disable it or comment it out, not sure why!
#apache_enable=YES

On the host running WinXP, I set its gateway and DNS server to the IP of ppp 
host i.e. 192.168.1.10.

I then inserted the following line as the first rule in /etc/ipfw.rules.
/sbin/ipfw add allow all from any to any via fxp0
(I know this rule is dangerous, but just for testing.)

I then issue the ppp command.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ppp -background -nat myisp

FBSD host (running ppp) can access anywhere but WinXP host can't. I learned 
from some site explaining that ppp itself has the capability of IP 
masquerading. And it does not require natd(8). So I don't mention about natd 
here.
Anyone have a clue or who have done the correct configurations, please point me 
out.

Thank you in advance.
Pongthep
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You need to run dhcp so you can assign ip address on the LAN so the down 
stream xp box can gain access to the public internet through your 
gateway freebsd box.  There is a detailed step by step instructions in 
the install guide at www.a1poweruser.com





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Re: ZFS Recovery Tools

2008-11-21 Thread Wojciech Puchar

What does MAXPHYS mean (yes max raw I/O transfer) and do? A little
bit more specific if you may.


how large can be single read from disk.

when you say read 2 files in the same time, FreeBSD will readahead at most 
MAXPHYS from one file, then from file 2, from file 1 etc.


128kB/s is way too much for todays drives, that can read 1MB within one 
access time.

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Re: ZFS Recovery Tools

2008-11-21 Thread Valentin Bud
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Wojciech Puchar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What does MAXPHYS mean (yes max raw I/O transfer) and do? A little
 bit more specific if you may.

 how large can be single read from disk.

 when you say read 2 files in the same time, FreeBSD will readahead at most
 MAXPHYS from one file, then from file 2, from file 1 etc.

 128kB/s is way too much for todays drives, that can read 1MB within one
 access time.

Thank you for your explanation.

a great day,
v
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RE: ZFS Recovery Tools

2008-11-21 Thread Johan Hendriks


 What does MAXPHYS mean (yes max raw I/O transfer) and do? A little
 bit more specific if you may.

how large can be single read from disk.

when you say read 2 files in the same time, FreeBSD will readahead at most 
MAXPHYS from one file, then from file 2, from file 1 etc.

128kB/s is way too much for todays drives, that can read 1MB within one 
access time.

128kB/s is way to much  , and you set it to 1024, or did you mean way to low ?

Regards,
Johan Hendriks



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Re: ZFS Recovery Tools

2008-11-21 Thread Wojciech Puchar



Thank you for your explanation.
from what i tested 1MB is optimal on modern drives, 2MB doesn't speed up 
much (if any) but increases latency.


use lower values for old drives (20GB) and low memory (=64MB) machines
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Re: Asus eeepc, Freebsd-head, problem with ath/wifi driver

2008-11-21 Thread Boris Samorodov
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:17:01 -0500 Dan wrote:

 I have issues with sound - it does not support software jack detection,
 so using headphones means the speakers are still on :(.

Welcome to freebsd-emulation@ ML. This issue is not very hard imho.


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Re: Asus eeepc, Freebsd-head, problem with ath/wifi driver

2008-11-21 Thread Boris Samorodov
On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 12:47:33 +0300 Boris Samorodov wrote:
 On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:17:01 -0500 Dan wrote:

  I have issues with sound - it does not support software jack detection,
  so using headphones means the speakers are still on :(.

 Welcome to freebsd-emulation@ ML. This issue is not very hard imho.

Uh, this should be freebsd-multimedia@ ML, sorry.


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Re: do we have any grammar checkers for FBSD?

2008-11-21 Thread Goksin Akdeniz
On Friday 21 November 2008 01:21:20 Gary Kline wrote:

   If there is one with OOo-3, I haven't been able to build it yet

   gary

Hello Gary,

Spellcheck and dictionary addons are avilable for OOo-3 but can not be 
installed due to bugs. 

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ascii text format

2008-11-21 Thread pwn
algouth this is not a freebsd specific text, i need to format some texts 
under freebsd for they appear in the center of the page when opened in a 
browser, but i dont want to use HTML for format them, i just want to add 
tabulation to my *.txt.
what software/tool can i use for format my *.txt? there is command on 
VIM like set textwidth but this is not suitable for me. any help i 
appreciate.

i add an example on a temporary host for make sure all understand.
(i need to format the text for he appear like the example good.txt)
http://one.xthost.info/temphost/good.txt
http://one.xthost.info/temphost/bad.txt
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Re: Using diff

2008-11-21 Thread Wojciech Puchar

add -u


On Fri, 21 Nov 2008, Fbsd1 wrote:


Trying to use diff program to create a patch.
Output gos to console and does not create the patch file.

If it do   diff original updated  patch.file

The patch.file does not look like a normal patch file.

What am I doing wrong here?
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RE: ZFS Recovery Tools

2008-11-21 Thread Wojciech Puchar


when you say read 2 files in the same time, FreeBSD will readahead at most
MAXPHYS from one file, then from file 2, from file 1 etc.

128kB/s is way too much for todays drives, that can read 1MB within one
access time.

128kB/s is way to much  , and you set it to 1024, or did you mean way to low ?


i meant too little. sorry.
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Freebsd 7.0 - asterisk 1.4 install problem (libslang-1.4.9 conflicts with installed package(s):,libslang2-2.1.4 )

2008-11-21 Thread anti

OS:   FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p5 (i386)
Asterisk: 1.4.21.2_5

I dont wanna install old version asterisk ( /usr/ports/net/asterisk12).

##
# pwd
/usr/ports/net/asterisk
# make
=== Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
=== Found saved configuration for asterisk-1.4.21.2_4
=== Extracting for asterisk-1.4.21.2_5
= MD5 Checksum OK for asterisk-1.4.21.2.tar.gz.
= SHA256 Checksum OK for asterisk-1.4.21.2.tar.gz.
= MD5 Checksum OK for asterisk-1.4.21.1-codec-negotiation-20080715.diff.gz.
= SHA256 Checksum OK for 
asterisk-1.4.21.1-codec-negotiation-20080715.diff.gz.

/bin/mkdir -p /usr/ports/net/asterisk/work/asterisk-1.4.21.2/codecs/ilbc
/usr/bin/find /usr/ports/net/asterisk/work/asterisk-1.4.21.2 -name '*.d' 
-delete

=== Patching for asterisk-1.4.21.2_5
=== Applying distribution patches for asterisk-1.4.21.2_5
=== Applying extra patch /usr/ports/net/asterisk/files/ilbc_enable.diff
=== Applying extra patch 
/usr/ports/net/asterisk/files/codecnego-patch-Makefile

=== Applying extra patch /usr/ports/net/asterisk/files/dtmf_debug.diff
=== Applying extra patch 
/usr/ports/net/asterisk/files/feature_disconnect.diff
=== Applying extra patch 
/usr/ports/net/asterisk/files/sip_force_callid.diff

=== Applying extra patch /usr/ports/net/asterisk/files/sip_set_auth.diff
=== Applying extra patch 
/usr/ports/net/asterisk/files/rtp_force_dtmf-codecnego.diff

=== Applying FreeBSD patches for asterisk-1.4.21.2_5
/usr/bin/sed -i.bak -e 's|/var/lib|/usr/local/share|g' 
/usr/ports/net/asterisk/work/asterisk-1.4.21.2/configs/musiconhold.conf.sample

=== asterisk-1.4.21.2_5 depends on executable: mpg123 - found
=== asterisk-1.4.21.2_5 depends on executable: gmake - found
=== asterisk-1.4.21.2_5 depends on executable: bison - found
=== asterisk-1.4.21.2_5 depends on shared library: speex.1 - found
=== asterisk-1.4.21.2_5 depends on shared library: newt.51 - not found
=== Verifying install for newt.51 in /usr/ports/devel/newt
=== newt-0.51.0_7 depends on shared library: slang.1 - not found
=== Verifying install for slang.1 in /usr/ports/devel/libslang
=== Installing for libslang-1.4.9

=== libslang-1.4.9 conflicts with installed package(s):
libslang2-2.1.4

They install files into the same place.
Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1).
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/devel/libslang.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/devel/newt.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net/asterisk.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net/asterisk.

###

# whereis libslang
libslang: /usr/ports/devel/libslang
# cd /usr/ports/devel/libslang
# make
# make install
=== Installing for libslang-1.4.9

=== libslang-1.4.9 conflicts with installed package(s):
libslang2-2.1.4

They install files into the same place.
Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1).
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/devel/libslang.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/devel/libslang.




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Re: ascii text format

2008-11-21 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:49:16 +, pwn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 what software/tool can i use for format my *.txt? there is command on 
 VIM like set textwidth but this is not suitable for me. any help i 
 appreciate.

Judging from your example text, what you're searching for is a
tool to format your text in paragraph mode (block mode) using
spaces between the words.

I'm not sure if there's already a tool on FreeBSD that does the
trick, but you can surely write a simple awk script to do it.
I'd suggest something like this: Break each input line into
words using the space character as separator. Then, iterate
over these words and put spaces after each word; repeat this
until you've reached the desired text width. This should be
relatively easy to accomplish. Furthermore, you can add an
empty string before each output line in order to create a
left margin.




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Re: ascii text format

2008-11-21 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Friday 21 November 2008 12:49:16 pwn wrote:
 algouth this is not a freebsd specific text, i need to format some texts
 under freebsd for they appear in the center of the page when opened in a
 browser, but i dont want to use HTML for format them, i just want to add
 tabulation to my *.txt.
 what software/tool can i use for format my *.txt? there is command on
 VIM like set textwidth but this is not suitable for me. any help i
 appreciate.
 i add an example on a temporary host for make sure all understand.
 (i need to format the text for he appear like the example good.txt)
 http://one.xthost.info/temphost/good.txt
 http://one.xthost.info/temphost/bad.txt

You seem to be fighting against your tools rather than working with them - the 
browser will strip out your whitespace and reflow your text anyway unless you 
prevent it somehow (pre tags?) so you might be better off just using 
HTML/CSS to control the format.

However, you could look at various tools for processing text, depending 
exactly what you're trying to do: the manpages for fmt, groff, and pr might 
all offer some ideas.

Jonathan
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Re: smbfs 2 GB file size limit

2008-11-21 Thread Derek Ragona

At 02:05 PM 11/20/2008, Chris Pratt wrote:


On Nov 20, 2008, at 7:21 AM, David Horn wrote:


On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 7:07 AM, Derek Ragona


No error message, it just stopped writing at 1 Gb.  I was doing
this using
scp.


Whoa, hopefully you just made a few typos here, or we are going down
the wrong path of investigation.

Did you really mean to say scp or cp ?
 scp(1)   - secure copy (remote file copy
program)
 cp(1)- copy files

...

What ssh version is running on both of these other systems ?
What OS are both of these other systems ?



So it looks to me like there is some issue with the scp that is
within
FreeBSD i386 7.


As per my previous message, I still suggest running single variable
tests to make sure that you know what is causing the failure, but if
you just want to jump to a possible solution, you can try updating ssh
to the latest in the ports tree (5.0p1).

If you have the FreeBSD ports collection installed and updated using
portsnap(8) or csup(1) , just do:

cd /usr/ports/security/openssh-portable
make install

Otherwise, install / update your ports collection using portsnap(8)
(fetch update or fetch extract) first, then install openssh-portable.

Good Luck.

---Dave


I apologize in advance if this has nothing to do with this. I'd ignored
this thread completely since it had SMB in the subject. Today I
noticed the comments shown above that it was apparently actually
related to ssh (scp). The fired a synapse of a recent session failure
I was having after updating a server to 7.0 that normally accrues
about a gig of changes a day. My backup server was running 5.5
and rsyncing the diffs each day. After the upgrade of the application
server, the 5.5 client began to hang it's rsync session every day. I
updated
the 5.5 server to 7.0 (which OBTW replaced the ssh suite) and the
problem disappeared. I didn't see in the thread what the actual ssh
client OS or rev was but perhaps the client is downrev and there is an
issue there. I did no research to figure out why, having my backup
server so far downrevved made it's upgrade my first potshot and it
worked.


Chris,

Thanks for the additional input.  I am going to try updating openssh from 
the ports as this appears to be an issue with scp.


-Derek

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Re: Problem about ppp -nat

2008-11-21 Thread Polytropon
Allthough others have already given you good advice, I'd like to
add that I'm running here at a similar setting, but without any
of these Windows. :-)

First of all, I made my kernel capable; significant parts:

# Firewall, NAT
options DUMMYNET
options IPFIREWALL
options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT
options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=500
options IPFILTER
options IPDIVERT

# PPPoE: netgraph(4) system
options NETGRAPH
options NETGRAPH_ETHER
options NETGRAPH_SOCKET
options NETGRAPH_PPPOE

If you don't want to compile a custom kernel, it's no problem. As
far as I know, the required kernel modules will be loaded automatically.

My setting includes two network interfaces, just like yours.
Interface xl0 + tun0 is the PPPoE connection to the outside, while
interface rl0 is the connection to the (slow) switch where the clients
are connected.

Configuration in /etc/rc.conf goes this way:

ifconfig_xl0=inet 192.168.0.1  netmask 0xff00
ifconfig_rl0=inet 192.168.1.1  netmask 0xff00  media 10baseT/UTP
firewall_enable=YES
firewall_type=/etc/ipfw.conf
gateway_enable=YES
named_enable=YES
natd_enable=YES
natd_interface=xl0
ppp_enable=YES
ppp_profile=mydslprovider
ppp_mode=ddial
ppp_nat=YES

The connection is established via /etc/ppp/ppp.conf settings.
Then I use a DHCP server to assign IPs to the clients instead
of giving them fixed ones. In fact, they are fixed because I set
up isc-dhcpd3-server (from ports) to assign IPs according to the
respective MAC adresses. :-)

Important note to IPFW settings: Have the line

add divert natd ip  from any to any via xl0

in your /etc/ipfw.conf.

If you need to, you can add flags for natd in order to have a
certain kind of port or address redirection, such as

natd_flags=-redirect_port tcp 192.168.1.5:23 

or

natd_flags=-redirect_address 192.168.1.2 123.456.789.123 \
-redirect_address 192.168.1.5 123.456.789.123

In any case, go and check your Windows the usual way. Don't 
forget to do it, instead you'll end up searching for an error
on the correctly working FreeBSD installation. :-)

Check if the Windows has got the correct IP, if the name server
settings are correct and if you can (1st) ping the gateway
machine and (2nd) something outside the gateway machine.



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RTL8168/8111 Not Being Assigned to Interface

2008-11-21 Thread hamtilla

I'm running 7.0-RELEASE-i386 on Jetway's NC92-N230 mainboard. The board has
one integrated RTL8168/8111 gigabit NIC as well as an expansion board with
three RTL8168/8111 NICs. 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:0:0:   class=0x02 card=0x816810ec chip=0x816810ec
rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor'
device = 'RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC'
class  = network
subclass   = ethernet
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2:4:0: class=0x02 card=0x10ec16f3 chip=0x816710ec rev=0x10
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor'
device = 'RTL8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC'
class  = network
subclass   = ethernet
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2:6:0: class=0x02 card=0x10ec16f3 chip=0x816710ec rev=0x10
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor'
device = 'RTL8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC'
class  = network
subclass   = ethernet
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2:7:0: class=0x02 card=0x10ec16f3 chip=0x816710ec rev=0x10
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor'
device = 'RTL8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC'
class  = network
subclass   = ethernet 


Why would the three NICs work while the onboard NIC does not? I would
imagine the same driver services both controllers. Do I need to assign an
interface to the device somehow?

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7.0 locale problem

2008-11-21 Thread pepe
I recently upgraded from 5.4 to 7.0 (to 6.3 first and then to 7.0) and now
there are some locale problems this server. I have same I had earlier on 5.4
login.conf with settings:

:charset=iso-8859-15:\
:lang=fi_FI.ISO8859-15:

for all users. And locale command says:

LANG=fi_FI.ISO8859-15
LC_CTYPE=fi_FI.ISO8859-15
LC_COLLATE=fi_FI.ISO8859-15
LC_TIME=fi_FI.ISO8859-15
LC_NUMERIC=fi_FI.ISO8859-15
LC_MONETARY=fi_FI.ISO8859-15
LC_MESSAGES=fi_FI.ISO8859-15
LC_ALL=

Finnish characters (äö) doesn't work on terminal (they give nothing), but
them works on some softwares like nano and vi. Yet them doesn't work on some
other programs. Like weechat (ircclient that some users use).

And perl started saying this every time it's run:

perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LC_ALL = (unset),
LANG = en_US.ISO8859-15
are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C).

So. What might have been changed there on upgrade procedure?

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Kernel SMB performance

2008-11-21 Thread Ansar Mohammed
Hello all

We are considering using an application that uses FreeBSD web servers in
front of Windows file servers. How reliable/scalable is the kernel SMB
module?

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Re: ascii text format

2008-11-21 Thread pwn

Jonathan McKeown wrote:

On Friday 21 November 2008 12:49:16 pwn wrote:
  

algouth this is not a freebsd specific text, i need to format some texts
under freebsd for they appear in the center of the page when opened in a
browser, but i dont want to use HTML for format them, i just want to add
tabulation to my *.txt.
what software/tool can i use for format my *.txt? there is command on
VIM like set textwidth but this is not suitable for me. any help i
appreciate.
i add an example on a temporary host for make sure all understand.
(i need to format the text for he appear like the example good.txt)
http://one.xthost.info/temphost/good.txt
http://one.xthost.info/temphost/bad.txt



You seem to be fighting against your tools rather than working with them - the 
browser will strip out your whitespace and reflow your text anyway unless you 
prevent it somehow (pre tags?) so you might be better off just using 
HTML/CSS to control the format.


However, you could look at various tools for processing text, depending 
exactly what you're trying to do: the manpages for fmt, groff, and pr might 
all offer some ideas.


Jonathan
  



yes, i want that the text appears displayed such as manpages like, how 
can i accomplish this task?



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Re: ascii text format

2008-11-21 Thread Mel
On Friday 21 November 2008 16:53:09 pwn wrote:
 Jonathan McKeown wrote:
  On Friday 21 November 2008 12:49:16 pwn wrote:
  algouth this is not a freebsd specific text, i need to format some texts
  under freebsd for they appear in the center of the page when opened in a
  browser, but i dont want to use HTML for format them, i just want to add
  tabulation to my *.txt.
  what software/tool can i use for format my *.txt? there is command on
  VIM like set textwidth but this is not suitable for me. any help i
  appreciate.
  i add an example on a temporary host for make sure all understand.
  (i need to format the text for he appear like the example good.txt)
  http://one.xthost.info/temphost/good.txt
  http://one.xthost.info/temphost/bad.txt
 
  You seem to be fighting against your tools rather than working with them
  - the browser will strip out your whitespace and reflow your text anyway
  unless you prevent it somehow (pre tags?) so you might be better off
  just using HTML/CSS to control the format.
 
  However, you could look at various tools for processing text, depending
  exactly what you're trying to do: the manpages for fmt, groff, and pr
  might all offer some ideas.
 
  Jonathan

 yes, i want that the text appears displayed such as manpages like, how
 can i accomplish this task?


Manpages use advanced formatting codes. You can achieve some result, by:

fmt -c 70 80 bad.txt

But anything further you will have to edit the text. Maybe you can wrap some 
formatting codes around the text for the tbl(1) program. But I agree with 
Jonathan - it's easier to reformat the text using HTML code and some of that 
can be done with a script/parser, providing the text uses some degree of 
consistency.
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Re: ascii text format

2008-11-21 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:49:16 +, pwn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 algouth this is not a freebsd specific text, i need to format some texts
 under freebsd for they appear in the center of the page when opened in a
 browser, but i dont want to use HTML for format them, i just want to add
 tabulation to my *.txt.
 what software/tool can i use for format my *.txt? there is command on
 VIM like set textwidth but this is not suitable for me. any help i
 appreciate.

 i add an example on a temporary host for make sure all understand.
 (i need to format the text for he appear like the example good.txt)

 http://one.xthost.info/temphost/good.txt
 http://one.xthost.info/temphost/bad.txt

It looks like you want groff(1) (or some other typesetting system that
can generate plain text output, like GNU Texinfo).

The groff utility and its associated formatting toolchain is relatively
easy to learn and it can produce output like:

,---
|
|
|
|  Some Title
|
|
|  A. U. Thor
|
|13 Friday St.
|Someplace (SP)
|
|
|   ABSTRACT
|
|   Dreaming  of space-flight, and predicting its
|  future, have always been favorite pastimes of sci-
|  ence fiction. In my first science column for FSF,
|  I can't resist the urge to  contribute  a  bit  to
|  this grand tradition.
|
|   A  science-fiction  writer in 1991 has a pro-
|  found advantage over the genre's pioneers.   Nowa-
|  days,  space-exploration  has  a past as well as a
|  future.  ``The conquest of space'' can  be  judged
|  today,  not  just  by  dreams,  but by a real-life
|  track record.
|
|
| 1.  Introduction
|
|  Here's the main text.
|
| 2.  Getting Started
|
|  This is the first paragraph of a new section.  The sec-
| tion titles are automatically indented, numbered and format-
| ted with the default style of ``numbered  headers''  by  the
| groff_ms(7) macros themselves.
|
|  Note  how  the  first  line  of  each paragraph is also
| indented a bit to the right.  This is the default  style  of
| groff_ms(7)  output,  but  you can easily tune and tweak the
| defaults to match pretty much any style you prefer.
|
|
`---

from relatively easy to prepare input text files.  The text shown above
has been produced by the following ``document source'', written in the
style expected by the groff_ms(7) formatting macros:

.TL
Some Title
.AU
A.\ U.\ Thor
.sp 1
.AI
13 Friday St.
Someplace (SP)
.AB
Dreaming of space-flight, and predicting its future, have always been
favorite pastimes of science fiction. In my first science column for
.I FSF ,
I can't resist the urge to contribute a bit to this grand tradition.
.PP
A science-fiction writer in 1991 has a profound advantage over the
genre's pioneers.  Nowadays, space-exploration has a past as well as a
future.  ``The conquest of space'' can be judged today, not just by
dreams, but by a real-life track record.
.AE
.\ ===
.\ This is a comment at the start of a new section.
.\ ===
.ds RH Introduction
.NH
Introduction
.PP
Here's the main text.
.\ ===
.\ This is a comment at the start of a new section.
.\ ===
.ds RH Getting Started
.NH
Getting Started
.PP
This is the first paragraph of a new section.
The section titles are automatically indented, numbered and formatted
with the default style of ``numbered headers'' by the
.B groff_ms(7)
macros themselves.
.PP
Note how the first line of each paragraph is also indented a bit to the
right.  This is the default style of groff_ms(7) output, but you can
easily tune and tweak the defaults to match pretty much any style you
prefer.

If this looks interesting, you can find a *lot* of information about
groff and its macro packages at the following places:

 1. In the `Info manual' of groff itself.  This is already installed as
part of your base system, and you can start reading it by typing:

  % info groff

 2. At the web page of groff itself:

  http://www.gnu.org/software/groff/#documentation

 3. At the troff.org pages:

  http://troff.org/

These pages are about groff's ancestor: the `troff' formatter.  They
include various links about online troff/groff resources.

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Re: ascii text format

2008-11-21 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:53:09 +, pwn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 yes, i want that the text appears displayed such as manpages like, how
 can i accomplish this task?

The manpages are written in groff.  More specifically, they are written
in a format that may be formatted by the `mdoc' macros of groff; the set
of groff macros described in the groff_mdoc(7) manpage.

See my other post about using groff and a specially formatted `input
file' to produce text output similar to the manpage look  feel :)

The `mdoc' macro package is just _one_ of the available sets of macros
for formatting text with groff.  Check out the groff wiki at

http://www.port.de/cgi-bin/groff/GroffMacroPackages

for information about the standard macro packages included with groff.

The `extras' page at

http://www.port.de/cgi-bin/groff/GroffExtras

has pointers to other, non-standard macro packages.  This may be a bit
interesting too.

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Re: 7.0 locale problem

2008-11-21 Thread pepe
This has been solved. I just had to upgrade and/or reinstall many of our
ports...

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 4:28 PM, pepe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I recently upgraded from 5.4 to 7.0 (to 6.3 first and then to 7.0) and now
 there are some locale problems this server. I have same I had earlier on 5.4
 login.conf with settings:

 :charset=iso-8859-15:\
 :lang=fi_FI.ISO8859-15:

 for all users. And locale command says:

 LANG=fi_FI.ISO8859-15
 LC_CTYPE=fi_FI.ISO8859-15
 LC_COLLATE=fi_FI.ISO8859-15
 LC_TIME=fi_FI.ISO8859-15
 LC_NUMERIC=fi_FI.ISO8859-15
 LC_MONETARY=fi_FI.ISO8859-15
 LC_MESSAGES=fi_FI.ISO8859-15
 LC_ALL=

 Finnish characters (äö) doesn't work on terminal (they give nothing), but
 them works on some softwares like nano and vi. Yet them doesn't work on some
 other programs. Like weechat (ircclient that some users use).

 And perl started saying this every time it's run:

 perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
 perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
 LC_ALL = (unset),
 LANG = en_US.ISO8859-15
 are supported and installed on your system.
 perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C).

 So. What might have been changed there on upgrade procedure?

 --
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Re: Kernel SMB performance

2008-11-21 Thread Wojciech Puchar

We are considering using an application that uses FreeBSD web servers in
front of Windows file servers. How reliable/scalable is the kernel SMB
module?
no idea. it worked many times when i wanted to fetch few files from 
windows. but i don't think anyone really cares very much about it being 
very well tested, bug free and high performance (i may be wrong here).


it's not the way unix is used in normal cases :) (reverse is true)
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Re: ascii text format

2008-11-21 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Friday, November 21, 2008 a las 03:53:09PM +, pwn escribió:

 Jonathan McKeown wrote:
 On Friday 21 November 2008 12:49:16 pwn wrote:
   
 algouth this is not a freebsd specific text, i need to format some texts
 under freebsd for they appear in the center of the page when opened in a
 browser, but i dont want to use HTML for format them, i just want to add
 tabulation to my *.txt.
 what software/tool can i use for format my *.txt? there is command on
 VIM like set textwidth but this is not suitable for me. any help i
 appreciate.
 i add an example on a temporary host for make sure all understand.
 (i need to format the text for he appear like the example good.txt)
 http://one.xthost.info/temphost/good.txt
 http://one.xthost.info/temphost/bad.txt
 
 
 You seem to be fighting against your tools rather than working with them - 
 the browser will strip out your whitespace and reflow your text anyway 
 unless you prevent it somehow (pre tags?) so you might be better off 
 just using HTML/CSS to control the format.
 
 However, you could look at various tools for processing text, depending 
 exactly what you're trying to do: the manpages for fmt, groff, and pr 
 might all offer some ideas.
 
 Jonathan
   
 
 
 yes, i want that the text appears displayed such as manpages like, how 
 can i accomplish this task?

what about:

$ groff -Tascii  bad.txt

SOME TITLE



Dreaming  of space-flight, and predicting its future, have always
been favorite pastimes of science fiction. In  my  first  science
column  for  FSF, I can't resist the urge to contribute a bit to
this grand tradition.

A science-fiction writer in 1991 has a  profound  advantage  over
the  genre's  pioneers. Nowadays, space-exploration has a past as
well as a future. The conquest of space can  be  judged  today,
not just by dreams, but by a real-life track record.


and some more tweakings after that with sed, ...

matthias

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PXE Boot - Silent kernel dmesg output

2008-11-21 Thread Brian A. Seklecki
All:

Has anyone experience a PXE boot problem on amd64 (Dell PowerEdge 850,
1850, DRAC4, DRAC5) where kernel dmesg output is suppressed on VGA
Console?

I've tried kernels, mfsroot, and pxeboot from 6.4-RC2, 6.3-PLX, 7.1-B2
builds.

I've verified stock /boot/device.hints, /defaults/loader.conf,
and /boot/loader.conf are in place on my NFS export.

Here's a slightly ambiguous screenshot:
  http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~seklecki/pxe_lock.jpg


  Note: Its hard to tell, but the spindle has already become a block
cursor.

We used to see this in early 6.x days and assumed it was a bum bPXE
configuration on the server-side; eventually mfsroot would get loaded
and sysinstall(8) welcome would be the first thing displayed after the
2nd stage boot loader.

Breaking out of the loader reveals: 
  console=vidconsole

Very very strange...

I'm going to have a look at tcpdump(8) on NFS reads to my export and
determine if it is indeed actually reading loader.conf(5).

However, the system-wide defaults w/o loader.conf + loader.rc +
boot.conf shouldn't prohibit kernel VGA console output.

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Re: do we have any grammar checkers for FBSD?

2008-11-21 Thread Bill Campbell
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008, Goksin Akdeniz wrote:
On Friday 21 November 2008 01:21:20 Gary Kline wrote:

  If there is one with OOo-3, I haven't been able to build it yet

  gary

Hello Gary,

Spellcheck and dictionary addons are avilable for OOo-3 but can not be 
installed due to bugs. 

Eons ago I used ``style'' and ``diction'' which were from the
Bell Labs *roff text processing that were available on Xenix.  I
found them quite useful, but haven't seen them in years.

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RE: Kernel SMB performance

2008-11-21 Thread Ansar Mohammed
 
  We are considering using an application that uses FreeBSD web servers
 in
  front of Windows file servers. How reliable/scalable is the kernel
 SMB
  module?
 no idea. it worked many times when i wanted to fetch few files from
 windows. but i don't think anyone really cares very much about it being
 very well tested, bug free and high performance (i may be wrong here).

I think you are. We should care about a KERNEL module being bug free and
high performance. If not, hey why not just use DOS.


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rsync throwing odd error

2008-11-21 Thread John Almberg

This is the week for strange problems...

I use rsync to copy tinydns data files to backup name servers. This  
has been working for about a year with no problem. Suddenly, I am  
getting odd errors:


/usr/local/bin/rsync -az -e 'ssh ' data.cdb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/ 
local/etc/tinydns/root/data.cdb

channel 1: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed

The rsync does work. That is, the file is copied over. So this is  
actually a warning, I guess.


On the other server, the one the file is being copied TO, the  
following is printed in /var/log/auth.log


Nov 21 12:43:38 qu sshd[4604]: Address 67.111.0.194 maps to  
on.example.com, but this does not map back to the address - POSSIBLE  
BREAK-IN ATTEMPT!
Nov 21 12:43:38 qu sshd[4604]: Accepted publickey for root from  
67.111.0.194 port 55777 ssh2


I'm guessing this is some sort of DNS mis-match, but I don't quite  
grasp what the problem could be.


Again, this did work without error or warning until recently.  
Something has changed, but not the DNS records.


I'm stumped. Any ideas much appreciated. (I have changed the  
addresses in the examples above to protect the innocent (me!)


-- John

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Re: ascii text format

2008-11-21 Thread Daniel Molina Wegener

pwn escribió:
algouth this is not a freebsd specific text, i need to format some texts 
under freebsd for they appear in the center of the page when opened in a 
browser, but i dont want to use HTML for format them, i just want to add 
tabulation to my *.txt.
what software/tool can i use for format my *.txt? there is command on 
VIM like set textwidth but this is not suitable for me. any help i 
appreciate.

i add an example on a temporary host for make sure all understand.
(i need to format the text for he appear like the example good.txt)
http://one.xthost.info/temphost/good.txt
http://one.xthost.info/temphost/bad.txt

 [SNIP]

Well, try par, it's a port, use portinstall, pkg_add or another tool
to install it:
http://cvsweb.freebsd.org/ports/textproc/par

I was using it with vim and mutt to format mail some years ago ;)

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Re: do we have any grammar checkers for FBSD?

2008-11-21 Thread Charlie Kester

* Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-11-21 09:25:32 -0800]:


Eons ago I used ``style'' and ``diction'' which were from the Bell Labs
*roff text processing that were available on Xenix.  I found them quite
useful, but haven't seen them in years.


The FreeBSD port of GNU diction and style is at /usr/ports/misc/diction.
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Re: do we have any grammar checkers for FBSD?

2008-11-21 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:03:25PM +, Goksin Akdeniz wrote:
 On Friday 21 November 2008 01:21:20 Gary Kline wrote:
 
  If there is one with OOo-3, I haven't been able to build it yet
 
  gary
 
 Hello Gary,
 
 Spellcheck and dictionary addons are avilable for OOo-3 but can not be 
 installed due to bugs. 


thanks for the datapoint.  good to know these tools are en-route.  
i'm working on some ye-olden texts that need updating to 21st century
english.  

gary


 
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Re: do we have any grammar checkers for FBSD?

2008-11-21 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 09:25:32AM -0800, Bill Campbell wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 21, 2008, Goksin Akdeniz wrote:
 On Friday 21 November 2008 01:21:20 Gary Kline wrote:
 
 If there is one with OOo-3, I haven't been able to build it yet
 
 gary
 
 Hello Gary,
 
 Spellcheck and dictionary addons are avilable for OOo-3 but can not be 
 installed due to bugs. 
 
 Eons ago I used ``style'' and ``diction'' which were from the
 Bell Labs *roff text processing that were available on Xenix.  I
 found them quite useful, but haven't seen them in years.
 


hmmm!  yeah, i probably have these that i swiped from SVR2 [shhh-h]
in 1986-7.  i never used the roff stuff except in in idiot-mode, but i 
do
remember that joe somebody came up with the tool for running-off
man pages.

gary

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Re: rsync throwing odd error

2008-11-21 Thread John Almberg

On Nov 21, 2008, at 12:50 PM, John Almberg wrote:


This is the week for strange problems...

I use rsync to copy tinydns data files to backup name servers. This  
has been working for about a year with no problem. Suddenly, I am  
getting odd errors:


/usr/local/bin/rsync -az -e 'ssh ' data.cdb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/ 
usr/local/etc/tinydns/root/data.cdb

channel 1: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed

The rsync does work. That is, the file is copied over. So this is  
actually a warning, I guess.


On the other server, the one the file is being copied TO, the  
following is printed in /var/log/auth.log


Nov 21 12:43:38 qu sshd[4604]: Address 67.111.0.194 maps to  
on.example.com, but this does not map back to the address -  
POSSIBLE BREAK-IN ATTEMPT!
Nov 21 12:43:38 qu sshd[4604]: Accepted publickey for root from  
67.111.0.194 port 55777 ssh2


I'm guessing this is some sort of DNS mis-match, but I don't quite  
grasp what the problem could be.



A... a reverse DNS problem!

Sorry for the dumb question, but it's amazingly helpful to just write  
down the question clear enough for the group. It frequently clarifies  
the problem to the point where the answer becomes obvious, even to a  
newbie like me.


DNS had been delegated to this server, but now that seems to be no  
longer working, so the reverse DNS look up is all wrong. That makes  
sense... an external change by the colo guys must have triggered this.


Will get on to them, and that should short this problem out.

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Re: do we have any grammar checkers for FBSD?

2008-11-21 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 10:07:53AM -0800, Charlie Kester wrote:
 * Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-11-21 09:25:32 -0800]:
 
 Eons ago I used ``style'' and ``diction'' which were from the Bell Labs
 *roff text processing that were available on Xenix.  I found them quite
 useful, but haven't seen them in years.
 
 The FreeBSD port of GNU diction and style is at /usr/ports/misc/diction.


(!!) great to hear that Ma Bell/ATT didn't lock this stuff away for 90+
years under a copyright.  

be interesting to see what style[123] does to my by-hand 
transliterations.


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Re: do we have any grammar checkers for FBSD?

2008-11-21 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:03:25PM +, Goksin Akdeniz wrote:
 On Friday 21 November 2008 01:21:20 Gary Kline wrote:
 
 If there is one with OOo-3, I haven't been able to build it yet
 
 gary
 
 Hello Gary,
 
 Spellcheck and dictionary addons are avilable for OOo-3 but can not be 
 installed due to bugs. 


   thanks for the datapoint.  good to know these tools are en-route.  
   i'm working on some ye-olden texts that need updating to 21st century
   english.  

They aren't really en route.  They are here, and they're working for me.
The dictionaries are no longer installed with OpenOffice by default -- as
I understand it, this is because there are now so many different languages
that would need to be included.

The documentation I used was at:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Dictionaries

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IPFW Rule

2008-11-21 Thread Tom Marchand
I am trying to add a IPFW rule to forward traffic but I keep getting  
the message ipfw: getsockopt(IP_FW_ADD): Invalid argument.  The rule  
I am trying to add looks like this:


ipfw add 600 fwd 192.169.2.3, 6000 tcp from 192.169.2.3 to any 80

I do have IP Forwarding enabled.  Any ideas what I am doing wrong?
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FreeBSD 7.0 fdisk issue during installation

2008-11-21 Thread Jonatan Evald Buus
Greetings,
I tried to install FreeBSD 7.0 on an old server earlier today and ran in to
a number of issues related to slicing and labeling the disk using fdisk.
The drive in the machine is a 40GB Seagate Barracude (ST34001A) installed as
a Secondary Master on the IDE bus using LBA.
The BIOS reports that the drive has 16 sectors pr block, but little else.

When accessing fdisk during install, fdisk complains that the disk geometry
is invalid and sets it to the default geometry for 40GB:
Cylinders: 4865
Heads: 255
Sectors: 63
I've tried with the following configuration based on what was reported by
the BIOS:
Cylinders: 19150
Heads: 255
Sectors: 16
Looking in the manual:
http://www.seagate.com/support/disc/manuals/ata/cuda7200pm.pdf, Seagate is
specifying the following logical characteristic:
Cylinders: 16383
Read / Write heads: 16
Sectors pr track: 63
Which of these settings should be the correct one for the fdisk geometry?

Additionally I encountered problems during installation if splitting the
disk into more than 4 slices. This would cause the following error to be
thrown during prior to the install files being copied (when sysinstall was
executing the newfs commands):
Error mounting /mnt/dev/X on /mnt/usr. No such file or directory
Using only 4 slices seems to have solved this error, however I'd like the
disk layout to use 5 slices as follows:
/ = 512MB
swap = 2048MB (the machine has 1024MB RAM)
/tmp = 512MB
/var = 2048MB
/usr = whatever remains
I noticed that when having 5 slices, the last slice (/usr) would be named X
rather than ad2s5 as I'd expect (the drive was detected as ad2).
Is this behaviour related to the error in any way?
Also, is the above disk layout good for a server intended to run both a web
server (Apache) and a database server (PostGreSQL) ?

Finally after installation (using only 4 slices) the system will only boot
if the FreeBSD boot manager is used.
This in turn causes a 4 menu options, all of them named FreeBSD to appear
during startup despite only the / slice having been set as bootable in fdisk
which appears to be indicated by an A in the flag column.
Selecting the first menu item by pressing F1 will make the system boot as
expected.
It seems rather silly though to use a boot manager when FreeBSD is the only
operating system that is installed (and ever will be installed) on the
machine.
If the FreeBSD boot manager is not used however and only the MBR is set
during installation, the system will fail at startup with error Invalid
Partition Table.
Is this because the harddrive is installed as the Secondary Master on the
IDE bus?

Appreciate any input on this

Cheers
Jona
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Re: do we have any grammar checkers for FBSD?

2008-11-21 Thread Bill Campbell
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008, Charlie Kester wrote:
 * Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-11-21 09:25:32 -0800]:

 Eons ago I used ``style'' and ``diction'' which were from the Bell Labs
 *roff text processing that were available on Xenix.  I found them quite
 useful, but haven't seen them in years.

 The FreeBSD port of GNU diction and style is at /usr/ports/misc/diction.

Thanks.  I didn't know that there was a GNU version of this, but
since you pointed this out, I found that it's a package in the
OpenPKG portable packaging system which we use for most things.

Bill
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Re: FreeBSD 7.0 fdisk issue during installation

2008-11-21 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 08:03:58PM +0100, Jonatan Evald Buus wrote:

 Greetings,
 I tried to install FreeBSD 7.0 on an old server earlier today and ran in to
 a number of issues related to slicing and labeling the disk using fdisk.
 The drive in the machine is a 40GB Seagate Barracude (ST34001A) installed as
 a Secondary Master on the IDE bus using LBA.
 The BIOS reports that the drive has 16 sectors pr block, but little else.
 
 When accessing fdisk during install, fdisk complains that the disk geometry
 is invalid and sets it to the default geometry for 40GB:
 Cylinders: 4865
 Heads: 255
 Sectors: 63
 I've tried with the following configuration based on what was reported by
 the BIOS:
 Cylinders: 19150
 Heads: 255
 Sectors: 16
 Looking in the manual:
 http://www.seagate.com/support/disc/manuals/ata/cuda7200pm.pdf, Seagate is
 specifying the following logical characteristic:
 Cylinders: 16383
 Read / Write heads: 16
 Sectors pr track: 63
 Which of these settings should be the correct one for the fdisk geometry?

Let the system set it and just go with what it does. 
Geometry is virtual nowdays.   Except in some unusual situations
(on IDE) Cylinders, heads and sectors most often do not mean what 
they used to.   The system drivers have it all figured out.  The
important thing for you is the total number of blocks/sectors. 

If that doesn't work, you will have to do some diagnosis, but in
about 10 out of 9 times, accepting how FreeBSD sets it is correct
and works.


 Additionally I encountered problems during installation if splitting the
 disk into more than 4 slices. This would cause the following error to be
 thrown during prior to the install files being copied (when sysinstall was
 executing the newfs commands):

You cannot have more than 4 slices.
The system limits you to 4 slices, identified by numbers 1..4

Once you divide in to slices, each can be further divided in to
up to 8 partitions, although it is really 7 because partition 'c' has
special meaning and is not really available to be a real partition.
Partitions are identified with alpha letters a..h - with 'c' being
used to identify the whole slice.

You use fdisk to create the slices (and write the MBR and set 
the bootable flag).

Then you use bsdlabel (formerly called disklabel) to create the
partitions within a slice (plus write the slice boot block.

Typically, you want to make partition 'a' be the root (/) filesystem
and 'b' be swap space on a bootable system slice.   Some things assume 
these designations.

Then you newfs partitions a, d, e, f, g, h or as many as you use.
But don't touch c and don't newfs b if it is to be swap.

jerry

 Error mounting /mnt/dev/X on /mnt/usr. No such file or directory
 Using only 4 slices seems to have solved this error, however I'd like the
 disk layout to use 5 slices as follows:
 / = 512MB
 swap = 2048MB (the machine has 1024MB RAM)
 /tmp = 512MB
 /var = 2048MB
 /usr = whatever remains
 I noticed that when having 5 slices, the last slice (/usr) would be named X
 rather than ad2s5 as I'd expect (the drive was detected as ad2).
 Is this behaviour related to the error in any way?
 Also, is the above disk layout good for a server intended to run both a web
 server (Apache) and a database server (PostGreSQL) ?
 
 Finally after installation (using only 4 slices) the system will only boot
 if the FreeBSD boot manager is used.

That is probably because you have created what is referred to in the
documentation as a dangerously dedicated disk.   You can make it
work that way.  FreeBSD can handle it.   But other systems will not 
play nicely with it.

 This in turn causes a 4 menu options, all of them named FreeBSD to appear
 during startup despite only the / slice having been set as bootable in fdisk
 which appears to be indicated by an A in the flag column.

Again, because you tried to do it the wrong way.   You created 4 FreeBSD
slices, probably each with an MBR and so the BIOS and the first MBR think
they are all bootable.


 Selecting the first menu item by pressing F1 will make the system boot as
 expected.
 It seems rather silly though to use a boot manager when FreeBSD is the only
 operating system that is installed (and ever will be installed) on the
 machine.

You can put in the other non-boot manager block during installation
if you want and it will only boot FreeBSD.   But, something is needed.
I forget what they call it in the sysinstall screen, but you might just
as well put in the FreeBSD boot manager (MBR).  

 If the FreeBSD boot manager is not used however and only the MBR is set
 during installation, the system will fail at startup with error Invalid
 Partition Table.
 Is this because the harddrive is installed as the Secondary Master on the
 IDE bus?

No, it is because you did not create any partition table (with bsdlabel).

jerry

 
 Appreciate any input on this
 
 Cheers
 Jona
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Re: Kernel SMB performance

2008-11-21 Thread Freminlins
2008/11/21 Ansar Mohammed [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I think you are. We should care about a KERNEL module being bug free and
 high performance.

Agreed.
We did a migration from a Windows email server a while back (about 40,000
mail boxes). As customers logged into the FreeBSD boxes, a process was
kicked off to copy email from the Windows box to the FreeBSD boxes, this
being done using SMB + some parsing in the script. This worked flawlessly
for about 10 million files.
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Re: RTL8168/8111 Not Being Assigned to Interface

2008-11-21 Thread Al Plant

hamtilla wrote:

I'm running 7.0-RELEASE-i386 on Jetway's NC92-N230 mainboard. The board has
one integrated RTL8168/8111 gigabit NIC as well as an expansion board with
three RTL8168/8111 NICs. 


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:0:0:   class=0x02 card=0x816810ec chip=0x816810ec
rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor'
device = 'RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC'
class  = network
subclass   = ethernet
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2:4:0: class=0x02 card=0x10ec16f3 chip=0x816710ec rev=0x10
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor'
device = 'RTL8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC'
class  = network
subclass   = ethernet
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2:6:0: class=0x02 card=0x10ec16f3 chip=0x816710ec rev=0x10
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor'
device = 'RTL8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC'
class  = network
subclass   = ethernet
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2:7:0: class=0x02 card=0x10ec16f3 chip=0x816710ec rev=0x10
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor'
device = 'RTL8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC'
class  = network
subclass   = ethernet 



Why would the three NICs work while the onboard NIC does not? I would
imagine the same driver services both controllers. Do I need to assign an
interface to the device somehow?

Thank you!

Aloha,

I use the same PCI cards in a number of servers. All work fine. But on 
board ones are only 100 so I dont use them.


However I notice that the on board nic in your case uses a different 
chipset:


chip=0x816810ec is onboard.
chip=0x816710ec is slot pci's.

I dont know what this means in respect to operation problems though.



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Re: do we have any grammar checkers for FBSD?

2008-11-21 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 02:05:41PM -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:03:25PM +, Goksin Akdeniz wrote:
  On Friday 21 November 2008 01:21:20 Gary Kline wrote:
  
If there is one with OOo-3, I haven't been able to build it yet
  
gary
  
  Hello Gary,
  
  Spellcheck and dictionary addons are avilable for OOo-3 but can not be 
  installed due to bugs. 
 
 
  thanks for the datapoint.  good to know these tools are en-route.  
  i'm working on some ye-olden texts that need updating to 21st century
  english.  
 
 They aren't really en route.  They are here, and they're working for me.
 The dictionaries are no longer installed with OpenOffice by default -- as
 I understand it, this is because there are now so many different languages
 that would need to be included.
 
 The documentation I used was at:
 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Dictionaries


i Can understand the ``myriad dictionaries problem'' since OO
supports so many languages; but I'm looking for a grammar tool.
There was some rumble about a grammar-checker becoming available 
sometime [like RSN:)] ... but so far nothing.  --At the same
time, the GNU diction program has found several things.  Havent
used that for ages.

gary

 
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Re: FreeBSD and hardware??

2008-11-21 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 04:53:03PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 (Forgive the top-posting)

Why?


 
 Your assertion that linux is both low end unix and low end windows 
 replacement is factually wrong: As a high end unix I think it's earned it's 
 stripes, currently dominating the top 500 supercomputer systems in the world, 
 some no other unix has managed to accomplish this time round. Notably, when 
 compared to freebsd it offers support for virtualisation where bsd is nowhere 
 close to doing, just one example of high end unix feature it provides. As a 
 gui desktop, I'm certain kde is a superior interface to windows in many ways.
 

While I agree that, without some kind of supporting argument, the
statement that Linux systems are low end Unix replacements are kind of
spurious sounding, I don't think that market share is really an effective
metric for determination of the quality of a replacement for a given
class of OS.

I'm also not sure I see how virtualization makes or breaks the quality of
any Unix-like system, or qualifies it as high end.

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Re: FreeBSD 7.0 fdisk issue during installation

2008-11-21 Thread Jonatan Evald Buus
Hi Jerry,
Thank you for the swift and very thorough response.

If I understand you correctly, then I should only create 1 slice of the
entire disk (seeing as FreeBSD will be the only OS) using fdisk and then
partition the slice using bsdlabels from sysinstall?
Previously I was aiming for 5 slices, each of which had a single partition
as described below.

From your explanation I take it that slices are what Windows refers to as
Primary Partitions?
If that's the case then I understand the behaviour I experienced.

Is it possible to make a slice non-bootable?
And would there be any benefits (less fragmentation, faster access time
etc.) in using slices rather than partitions to layout the harddrive or
should slices only be used to represent a physical harddrive?

Appreciate the clarification

Cheers
Jona

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 08:03:58PM +0100, Jonatan Evald Buus wrote:

  Greetings,
  I tried to install FreeBSD 7.0 on an old server earlier today and ran in
 to
  a number of issues related to slicing and labeling the disk using fdisk.
  The drive in the machine is a 40GB Seagate Barracude (ST34001A) installed
 as
  a Secondary Master on the IDE bus using LBA.
  The BIOS reports that the drive has 16 sectors pr block, but little else.
 
  When accessing fdisk during install, fdisk complains that the disk
 geometry
  is invalid and sets it to the default geometry for 40GB:
  Cylinders: 4865
  Heads: 255
  Sectors: 63
  I've tried with the following configuration based on what was reported by
  the BIOS:
  Cylinders: 19150
  Heads: 255
  Sectors: 16
  Looking in the manual:
  http://www.seagate.com/support/disc/manuals/ata/cuda7200pm.pdf, Seagate
 is
  specifying the following logical characteristic:
  Cylinders: 16383
  Read / Write heads: 16
  Sectors pr track: 63
  Which of these settings should be the correct one for the fdisk geometry?

 Let the system set it and just go with what it does.
 Geometry is virtual nowdays.   Except in some unusual situations
 (on IDE) Cylinders, heads and sectors most often do not mean what
 they used to.   The system drivers have it all figured out.  The
 important thing for you is the total number of blocks/sectors.

 If that doesn't work, you will have to do some diagnosis, but in
 about 10 out of 9 times, accepting how FreeBSD sets it is correct
 and works.


  Additionally I encountered problems during installation if splitting the
  disk into more than 4 slices. This would cause the following error to be
  thrown during prior to the install files being copied (when sysinstall
 was
  executing the newfs commands):

 You cannot have more than 4 slices.
 The system limits you to 4 slices, identified by numbers 1..4

 Once you divide in to slices, each can be further divided in to
 up to 8 partitions, although it is really 7 because partition 'c' has
 special meaning and is not really available to be a real partition.
 Partitions are identified with alpha letters a..h - with 'c' being
 used to identify the whole slice.

 You use fdisk to create the slices (and write the MBR and set
 the bootable flag).

 Then you use bsdlabel (formerly called disklabel) to create the
 partitions within a slice (plus write the slice boot block.

 Typically, you want to make partition 'a' be the root (/) filesystem
 and 'b' be swap space on a bootable system slice.   Some things assume
 these designations.

 Then you newfs partitions a, d, e, f, g, h or as many as you use.
 But don't touch c and don't newfs b if it is to be swap.

 jerry

  Error mounting /mnt/dev/X on /mnt/usr. No such file or directory
  Using only 4 slices seems to have solved this error, however I'd like the
  disk layout to use 5 slices as follows:
  / = 512MB
  swap = 2048MB (the machine has 1024MB RAM)
  /tmp = 512MB
  /var = 2048MB
  /usr = whatever remains
  I noticed that when having 5 slices, the last slice (/usr) would be named
 X
  rather than ad2s5 as I'd expect (the drive was detected as ad2).
  Is this behaviour related to the error in any way?
  Also, is the above disk layout good for a server intended to run both a
 web
  server (Apache) and a database server (PostGreSQL) ?
 
  Finally after installation (using only 4 slices) the system will only
 boot
  if the FreeBSD boot manager is used.

 That is probably because you have created what is referred to in the
 documentation as a dangerously dedicated disk.   You can make it
 work that way.  FreeBSD can handle it.   But other systems will not
 play nicely with it.

  This in turn causes a 4 menu options, all of them named FreeBSD to
 appear
  during startup despite only the / slice having been set as bootable in
 fdisk
  which appears to be indicated by an A in the flag column.

 Again, because you tried to do it the wrong way.   You created 4 FreeBSD
 slices, probably each with an MBR and so the BIOS and the first MBR think
 they are all bootable.


  Selecting the first menu 

Re: do we have any grammar checkers for FBSD?

2008-11-21 Thread Matt
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 02:05:41PM -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:03:25PM +, Goksin Akdeniz wrote:
  On Friday 21 November 2008 01:21:20 Gary Kline wrote:
  
If there is one with OOo-3, I haven't been able to build it yet
  
gary
 
  Hello Gary,
 
  Spellcheck and dictionary addons are avilable for OOo-3 but can not be
  installed due to bugs.
 
 
  thanks for the datapoint.  good to know these tools are en-route.
  i'm working on some ye-olden texts that need updating to 21st century
  english.  

 They aren't really en route.  They are here, and they're working for me.
 The dictionaries are no longer installed with OpenOffice by default -- as
 I understand it, this is because there are now so many different languages
 that would need to be included.

 The documentation I used was at:
 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Dictionaries


i Can understand the ``myriad dictionaries problem'' since OO
supports so many languages; but I'm looking for a grammar tool.
There was some rumble about a grammar-checker becoming available
sometime [like RSN:)] ... but so far nothing.  --At the same
time, the GNU diction program has found several things.  Havent
used that for ages.

gary

Well, there is http://www.languagetool.org/ available for OOo, but I
don't know how to get it installed due to the bad transfer url error
that's been reported [1] when installing extensions.  Any ideas
related to that?

[1] 
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-openoffice/2008-October/003941.html

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Re: do we have any grammar checkers for FBSD?

2008-11-21 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   i Can understand the ``myriad dictionaries problem'' since OO
   supports so many languages; but I'm looking for a grammar tool.
   There was some rumble about a grammar-checker becoming available 
   sometime [like RSN:)] ... but so far nothing.  --At the same
   time, the GNU diction program has found several things.  Havent
   used that for ages.

Oh, right, sorry; I meant to mention the OpenOffice extension
LanguageTool.  As a grammar checker, it's not very good, but
it's good enough to catch a bunch of common typo-ish mistakes
that a spell checker will always miss.  



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gzip and dump

2008-11-21 Thread Grant Peel
Hi all,

I lost my Hard Drive and all my many tens of thousands of emails.

Thus, my excellent repository of answers from this list were sent to oblivion.

I make dumps using gzip and forget the command line to restore files from the 
zipped dump.

I use the command line like:

dump 0 -h0 -uaLf - /home | gzip  dumpfile.gz

If someone cand remind me the proper way to restore a file I would be greatful.

TIA,

-Grant
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Re: Warning: Can't find .....

2008-11-21 Thread matt donovan
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 1:52 AM, Brent Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 matt donovan wrote:

 Well you didn't install man pages since minimal install does not install
 them. To get the man pages you have to change 7.0-RELEASE-p5 to just
 7.0-RELEASE


 Hi

 Thanks for this, I actually did realise my mistake after the post. Mans
 installed :)

 What does make me wonder is how or why sysinternal's option was set to
 7.0-RELEASE-p5 and / or could not work around it.

 Anyway, its working, so im chuffed.

 Thanks again for the reply


 Kind Regards
 Brent Clark
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well Sysinstall goes by the version that you have installed so if you update
your machine to patchlevel 5 sysinstall will change the OS to the -p5
instead of the base setting
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Re: FreeBSD 7.0 fdisk issue during installation

2008-11-21 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:41:07 +0100, Jonatan Evald Buus [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 If I understand you correctly, then I should only create 1 slice of the
 entire disk (seeing as FreeBSD will be the only OS) using fdisk and then
 partition the slice using bsdlabels from sysinstall?

Yes, that's the usual way. Sysinstall suggest this way, too,
but you can use fdisk and bsdlabel manually, if you want.



 Previously I was aiming for 5 slices, each of which had a single partition
 as described below.

Not neccessary, as you see.

By the way, if you would want to have one disk (harddisk) for
your home directories, you wouldn't make any slice on it, you
could create just one partition there, for example:

/dev/ad0s1b = swap
/dev/ad0s1a = /
/dev/ad0s1d = /tmp
/dev/ad0s1e = /var
/dev/ad0s1f = /usr
/dev/ad2= /home



 From your explanation I take it that slices are what Windows refers to as
 Primary Partitions?

Yes.



 If that's the case then I understand the behaviour I experienced.

You understood it correctly.



 Is it possible to make a slice non-bootable?

Yes, by not setting the bootable flag in the slice editor.



 And would there be any benefits (less fragmentation, faster access time
 etc.) in using slices rather than partitions to layout the harddrive or
 should slices only be used to represent a physical harddrive?

I don't think it will give you any speed gains when you
have, let's say, /dev/ad[0s[12345]c instead of /dev/ad0s1[adefg].
Speed limitations usually occur according to the order harddisks
are placed on the (P)ATA bus and how you copy data from one
partition to another, for example, a master - slave copy usually
is slower than a master - master copy; copies between partitions
on the same drive tend to be slower than copies between two
physical drives. In daily use, I don't think your suggestion
would be of a significant benefit - if it was, it would have been
done this way for years already. :-)



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From Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
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Re: FreeBSD 7.0 fdisk issue during installation

2008-11-21 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 10:41:07PM +0100, Jonatan Evald Buus wrote:

 Hi Jerry,
 Thank you for the swift and very thorough response.
 
 If I understand you correctly, then I should only create 1 slice of the
 entire disk (seeing as FreeBSD will be the only OS) using fdisk and then
 partition the slice using bsdlabels from sysinstall?

Yes.   Or you don't have to use sysinstall.  You can do it 
manually.   But, using sysinstall makes it easy.

You don't absolutely have to slice or bsdlabel it.
You can either just newfs the device /dev/da0 or you can create a slice
and just newfs that /dev/da0s1.   Then you get that 'dangerously dedicated'
disk which FreeBSD can use, but nothing else can including some non-FreeBSD
boot managers.   Some people do that to save a couple thousand bytes of
space, but on a multi-gigabyte drive, who cares about a couple thousand
bytes.

 Previously I was aiming for 5 slices, each of which had a single partition
 as described below.

Yup.   That won't work.

 From your explanation I take it that slices are what Windows refers to as
 Primary Partitions?
 If that's the case then I understand the behaviour I experienced.

Yes.   There is that conflict of terminology.  
But, FreeBSD has called it slices from the beginning.

 Is it possible to make a slice non-bootable?

Yes.   Just don't put in an MBR and don't mark it bootable in 
the fdisk stage.

 And would there be any benefits (less fragmentation, faster access time
 etc.) in using slices rather than partitions to layout the harddrive or
 should slices only be used to represent a physical harddrive?

There is no advantage in making a slice non-bootable, except you might
be able to save a few bytes of storage - storage that is not normally
used anyway.   There is no advantage in speed or access time and
fragmentation is only a MS worry.   It is not an issue in superior
UNIX filesystems - at least in FreeBSD's.

I don't understand the last line of that paragraph.
Pretty much everything is virtual in disk drive addressing nowdays.
It doesn't matter which level you refer to.

The slice and its limit to 4 is a feature of standard BIOS basically.
All the other things, partitions, extended partitions, etc are ways
of getting around the limits.The only real reason nowdays to
have more than one slice on a drive in FreeBSD is if you want to put
more than one bootable system on the drive.   For example, the machine
I am typing on has MS-XP and FreeBSD, plus a Dell diagnostic slice - 
so three slices are used.   I could squish those slices down and add
one more, say for Linux or a different version of FreeBSD if I wanted, 
but I don't.

Generally, when I make a machine intended only for FreeBSD, I put all
the disk in one bootable slice.   Then I partition that slice to 
suit me.  My pattern is usually:
   a   /  (root)
   b   swap (125% of memory size)
   c   defines the slice - not a real partition
   d   /tmp (used as scratch space by many utilities)
   e   /usr 
   f   /var (size depends on logging and databases which live here)
   g   /home(user home directories, plus I put some of the things
 that can grow unexpectedly such as /var/mail, /var/spool
 /usr/ports, /usr/local  here and make symlinks to them)

Some people make just one big partition for root plus some for swap.
I like the control I have over things my way a little better and I 
can get by with backing up and restoring more manageable chunks my way.

If the machine is to be a dual boot as this one is,  I carve it up in
to slices - one for each bootable system.If it already has some
MS thing loaded, I use some tool such as Gparted or Partition Magic
to shrink the MS primary partition and create two or three or four
of them.   Then I use fdisk to set up the FreeBSD slice to be bootable
and bsdlabel to partition that slice.   
By the way, 'dual boot' is kind of a generic term referring to any
number of bootable slices more than one.   So, it could refer to two,
three or four actual bootable systems on the drive.

Except for something like the hidden Dell diagnostic slice (HP and
probably other vendors like to do that as well), MS must be in the first 
slice because it doesn't like to play well with other systems.   But, it 
does overlook the 'hidden' slices OK.  That 'hidden' attribute is ignored 
by FreeBSD.   But, since it doesn't care which slice it is in, that is 
no problem. 

When I have a second (or third, etc) disk on the machine, I generally
do not make those disks bootable.   I make them just one plain slice 
each and generally, since they mostly get used as mass data storage,
I create just one partition in that slice.   But, I have created 
more when it was useful.   One I am thinking about, it was useful to
make more partitions in the second drive because I was using it to
build a system to distribute to other machines and I could isolate
that in one separate partition that 

Re: gzip and dump

2008-11-21 Thread Wojciech Puchar

I lost my Hard Drive and all my many tens of thousands of emails.

Thus, my excellent repository of answers from this list were sent to oblivion.

I make dumps using gzip and forget the command line to restore files from the 
zipped dump.

I use the command line like:

dump 0 -h0 -uaLf - /home | gzip  dumpfile.gz

If someone cand remind me the proper way to restore a file I would be greatful.


cd /target/directory

zcat dumpfile.gz|restore -rf -

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Re: rsync throwing odd error

2008-11-21 Thread John Almberg

A... a reverse DNS problem!


Nope... wasn't that. Reverse DNS was working fine. I just didn't know  
how to check it properly.


Well, that was a good idea. Time to find another one!

- John
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Re: rsync throwing odd error

2008-11-21 Thread Wojciech Puchar


/usr/local/bin/rsync -az -e 'ssh ' data.cdb 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/etc/tinydns/root/data.cdb

channel 1: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed

The rsync does work. That is, the file is copied over. So this is actually a 
warning, I guess.


On the other server, the one the file is being copied TO, the following is 
printed in /var/log/auth.log


Nov 21 12:43:38 qu sshd[4604]: Address 67.111.0.194 maps to on.example.com, 
but this does not map back to the address - POSSIBLE BREAK-IN ATTEMPT!


well it's as easy as reading messages.

you exactly posted answer to your question!

make your reverse DNS and forward DNS match.
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Log capturing program

2008-11-21 Thread skx
I need a log capturing program, like WallWatcher, to run on my FreeBSD box 
and capture logs from a router running Tomato. Some analyzing features 
would be nice. Could you recommend something? 

-- 
skx. 
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sockstat problem

2008-11-21 Thread x03ml

hello list!
i have this error running sockstat:

# sockstat
sockstat: struct xtcpcb size mismatch
sockstat: struct xinpcb size mismatch
sockstat: struct xunpcb size mismatch
sockstat: struct xunpcb size mismatch
USER COMMANDPID   FD PROTO  LOCAL ADDRESS FOREIGN 
ADDRESS 
#



someone have a clue ?

tks
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Re: sockstat problem

2008-11-21 Thread Paul B. Mahol
On 11/22/08, x03ml [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hello list!
 i have this error running sockstat:

 # sockstat
 sockstat: struct xtcpcb size mismatch
 sockstat: struct xinpcb size mismatch
 sockstat: struct xunpcb size mismatch
 sockstat: struct xunpcb size mismatch

Your kernel and world are not it sync.

-- 
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named and ntpd start order in rc.d

2008-11-21 Thread Nerius Landys
FreeBSD 7.0.  I am having a problem when ntpd starts at bootup.  It
continues to have 2 processes running, the process which does the DNS lookup
fails to exit, and ntpd fails to adjust the clock even after days of
running.  Immediately after bootup and several hours or days later this is
what I get:

# ps -U root | grep ntpd
87837  ??  Ss 0:00.03 /usr/sbin/ntpd -c /etc/ntp.conf -p
/var/run/ntpd.pid
87838  ??  S  0:00.00 /usr/sbin/ntpd -c /etc/ntp.conf -p
/var/run/ntpd.pid

If I do a /etc/rc.d/ntpd restart on a running system it fixes the problem,
and only one of the ntpd processes remains, and the clock gets adjusted.

I have named running as a caching name server on my system.  The contents of
my /etc/resolv.conf:

domain  nerius.com
nameserver  127.0.0.1

My /etc/rc.conf:

...
named_enable=YES
ntpd_enable=YES
...

I believe that the problem with ntpd is that named is started AFTER ntpd.

Trying to reproduce problem.  On a running system. I shut down named.  Then
I restart ntpd, then I start named.  I can reproduce the problem that
happens on bootup - ntpd has 2 processes and does not adjust the clock.
Restarting ntpd while named is running fixes the problem

I believe that the fix for this is to add a dependency to /etc/rc.d/ntpd
script, adding named to REQUIRE section in comments.  In your opinion,
is this a robust fix?  For example the line in my /etc/rc.d/ntpd script that
looks like so:

# REQUIRE: DAEMON ntpdate cleanvar devfs

would be changed to this:

# REQUIRE: DAEMON ntpdate cleanvar devfs named

Also, should I report this as a bug to some sort of bug tracking system?
Where?  I really like FreeBSD and would like to see all bugs get fixed.
Thanks for a great system to all of you.

 - Nerius
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broke pakage mysql50-client

2008-11-21 Thread clubturbo
Hello group
clean cd install of freebsd 7.0 release
installing php5-extensions the mysql50-client is broke

had to cd into /usr/ports/databases/mysql50-client 
ftp get 
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/7.0-RELEASE/packages/databases/mysql-client-5.0.45_1.tbz
then ran install mysql50-client

then the php5-extensions package installed as needed
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FreeBSD on a Mac Mini Intel?

2008-11-21 Thread Ian Jefferson

Is anyone running FreeBSD on a Mac Mini Intel?

I've looked around for a definitive discussion on the topic but  
couldn't find anything on this list or Google at least.


I'd like to replace a couple of relatively high power-consuming  
servers with a couple of Mac Mini Intel's.  For my purposes they are  
plenty good enough.  I'd prefer to stay with the 6.X release for now.


I've got a lot of Mac's around running OS X but in this case these  
boxes would be headless and without keyboards.  An alternate serial  
console would be nice if that can be rigged up via USB and a serial  
converter.


IJ
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