xorg, xdm, desktop env
Installed a fresh FreeBSD-8.0, xorg, configured xorg for my screen, installed xdm. After reboot I see a graphical login window. When entering username and password, it seems to accept it, but immediatly present the graphical login window again. (In console mode (Ctrl-Alt-F1) I can login at the login: prompt with the same username/password). Has FreeSBD somewhere a default environment (in that case why does it not appear after logging in at the XDM graphical window) or do you still need to install a Desktop environment (Gnome, KDE, Xfce) and is it normal that after logging in at the XDM window, you are thrown out again.. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: / slice too small
2010/3/4 Malcolm Kay malcolm@internode.on.net On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 02:44 am, krad wrote: On 3 March 2010 14:23, Malcolm Kay malcolm@internode.on.net wrote: On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 08:44 am, krad wrote: On 28 February 2010 15:42, Elias Chrysocheris elias...@cha.forthnet.grwrote: On Sunday 28 of February 2010 15:26:54 Frank Shute wrote: I've got a machine here running 7.2 which I want to upgrade to 8.0 but looking at the root slice it is woefully small: $ df -h FilesystemSizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad4s2190M146M 29M84%/ devfs 1.0K1.0K 0B 100%/dev /dev/ad4s4129G 15G104G12%/usr devfs 1.0K1.0K 0B 100% /var/named/dev I've got a CD/DVD writer on that machine along with a 100MB ethernet connection to my desktop. How do I go about upgrading it? Dump/restore and change the partition table? Any suggestions gratefully received. Regards, Yes. The dump/restore should do the trick as long as you have another medium to store the dumps (such as another hard disk). You will store the images of your slices to the new medium using dump(8). You can then use FixIt console to re-partition and re-slice your hard disk and then restore(8) your images in the newly sliced hard disk. Actually, if you have another hard disk device, you can use piped dump/restore to copy the whole system from one disk to the other and make the second one your bootable disk. Of course you must have sliced the second device first. I've done this many times. The first was to remove an openSUSE partition I had, living in the same hard disk as my FreeBSD. The second time was to move my FreeBSD to another hard disk (physical device). The new disk became my boot disk. The third time was to move my system to another bigger hard disk device and at the same time be formated as ZFS. Now my system boots from this third hard disk device, having ZFS and the operating system is the same as that I first installed (of cource updated...) Elias ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questi ons To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org You might well find it easier to use rsync rather than dump. Just make sure you use the following flags rsync -aHP --numeric-ids This is a bit questionable for copying live fs. Probably OK if you use snapshots. Leaves you in very similar situation as doing backups with tar. These schemes also alter the access times on files (which I guess doesn't usually matter too much). But dump/restore is no more complex to use than rsync and manages snapshots for you, so why mess about with questionable schemes. I understand what you mean about live file systems, but in this case its not a problem as he will be in single user mode. I'm not sure that single user mode avoids this problem. Also using the a flag means the modification times are intact. I did not mention modification times but access times which I admit are seldom put to any use. It is very difficult for any utility to avoid altering these -- dump is the only exception I know of. Sorry i misread I use rsync at work over 100s of systems and it is very effective, and the noc find it far easier to recover small numbers of files than having to go digging into dump files. I've not found this too difficult even when working with compressed dumps. The way we have got everything setup on a zfs backend mean we can do incremental forever, as well which is much more efficient than having to do regular level 0 dumps. Yes, rsync is great for updating incremental changes but this is quite irrelevant to the OP's problem. For backup it seems this also somewhat reduces the effectiveness. For example when you are asked to recover the original of a file that was changed before the lastest backup. Many of us think it desirable to regularly archive complete backups. This is not a problem in our scenario as the backend storage is zfs and all underpinned with snapshots. This enables us to retrieve and file from any day for the last x days dependent on the retention period. But each to his own; backup methods and strategies have always been something of a controverial issues. Malcolm Kay I use it in our backup setup at work, and have restored countless freebsd boxes. When you repartition the drive remember to add the boot blocks eg fdisk -B ad0 bsdlabel -B ad0s1 ___
Root on ZFS
I am following this wiki page to move to zfs root: http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSOnRoot I got to this section: Create bootdir directory where the boot file system will be mounted: # mkdir /tank/bootdir # ln -s bootdir/boot /tank/boot I am confused about the symlink line - what is 'bootdir' ? Thanks, ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Automated kernel crash reporting system
Hello I noticed the following on the FreeBSD website: http://www.freebsd.org/projects/ideas/ideas.html#p-autoreport Has there been any progress/work done on the automated kernel crash reporting system? The current ways of enabling and gathering the information required by developers for investigating panics and similar issues are unintuitive and user-hostile to say the least and anything to automate the process would be a very welcome addition. - Sincerely, Dan Naumov ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RS232 / TCP converter and BSD.
Hi, I have a weather station (Lacross WS2350). (can be connect by USB / RS232). I want to get data from a FreeBSD server 70 meter from the weather station (with http://www.wviewweather.com/ software). I already have a RJ45 cable between the two objects. I wish i could get a RS232 to RJ45 connecter like this one : http://www.lextronic.fr/P6554-convertisseur-tcpip--rs232-cse-h53.html And use it to connect the weather station to the RJ45 network, and then get data from my BSD. The bad point is that the soft witch are given with the RS232 to RJ45 translater are for windows, and it make a virtual port on windows. I don't know if it will work on BSD. If it does not work, i'll be oblige to buy another RJ45 to RS232 translater... and it's not cheap. Has anybody already done a such network ? Thanks, Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: IBM DS4800 Storage
On 2/03/2010 2:40 AM, Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Mar 01), Omer Faruk Sen said: (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Vendor Specific ASC (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Unretryable error (da0:isp1:0:0:6): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 0 0 10 0 0 1 0 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error (da0:isp1:0:0:6): SCSI Status: Check Condition (da0:isp1:0:0:6): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:94,1 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Vendor Specific ASC (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Unretryable error According to the DS4000 Problem Determination Guide at ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/systems/support/system_x_pdf/gc27207600.pdf#page=104 , ASC/ASCQ 94/01 corresponds to Invalid Request Due to Current Logical Unit Ownership. Maybe the DS4800 thinks that the lun has been assigned to a different host, and that's why it won't let the FreeBSD machine access it. Other web searches indicate that this may be an attempt to access the passive path of multipathed device on an active/passive RAID array. If that's the case, FreeBSD should have found another disk (da1 possibly?) that you should be able to use. That being the case, it's also possible that the LUN is accessible to the FreeBSD system, but another application or system has applied a SCSI-2 reservation or a SCSI-3 persistent reservation to the disk; that would prevent the FreeBSD system from accessing the LUN. Perhaps see what servers or devices the DS4800 thinks is connected to the LUN. Dave. -- David Rawling PD Consulting And Security Mob: +61 412 135 513 Email: d...@pdconsec.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 802.11QinQ support
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Sam Fourman Jr. sfour...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Ross Cameron ross.came...@linuxpro.co.za wrote: Hi there all Does anyone know off hand if FreeBSD 8.0 or -CURRENT supports 802.1QinQ aka netsted VLans? I don't believe FreeBSD supports QinQ yet, however it apparently has always been possible to do nested vlans with netgraph. My trouble with netgraph has always been that there was never a sufficient amount of examples on the web to be able to do anything useful with it. I've also read that netgraph can apparently do QinQ, but I can only get normal VLan's working :( -- Opportunity is most often missed by people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. Thomas Alva Edison Inventor of 1093 patents, including: The light bulb, phonogram and motion pictures. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: RS232 / TCP converter and BSD.
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Olivier GARNIER wrote: I have a weather station (Lacross WS2350). (can be connect by USB / RS232). I want to get data from a FreeBSD server 70 meter from the weather station (with http://www.wviewweather.com/ software). I already have a RJ45 cable between the two objects. I wish i could get a RS232 to RJ45 connecter like this one : http://www.lextronic.fr/P6554-convertisseur-tcpip--rs232-cse-h53.html And use it to connect the weather station to the RJ45 network, and then get data from my BSD. The bad point is that the soft witch are given with the RS232 to RJ45 translater are for windows, and it make a virtual port on windows. I don't know if it will work on BSD. If it does not work, i'll be oblige to buy another RJ45 to RS232 translater... and it's not cheap. Has anybody already done a such network ? I have used this: http://www.extron.com/product/product.aspx?id=iplts6s=0 ...with no issues. This one has six RS232 ports; they also make versions with one, two and four ports. The interface is software-neutral - just open a TCP connection to the device on port 2001, and everything you send and receive from the socket goes through the RS232 port. There is an embedded web server for configuration. I don't know what the pricing is on these things, but I'm sure they are not cheap (being Extron and all). But they are easy to use, work right and don't break. Just my opinion; hope this helps. -- Chris Hill ch...@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging | ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Automated kernel crash reporting system
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 07:09, dan.naumov@ wrote: Hello I noticed the following on the FreeBSD website: http://www.freebsd.org/projects/ideas/ideas.html#p-autoreport Has there been any progress/work done on the automated kernel crash reporting system? The current ways of enabling and gathering the information required by developers for investigating panics and similar issues are unintuitive and user-hostile to say the least and anything to automate the process would be a very welcome addition. - Sincerely, Dan Naumov Hi Dan, I am assuming that the output of crashinfo_enable=YES is not what you are talking about is it ? are you aware of it ? The info contained in the crashinfo.txt.N is pretty informative for developers, maybe your talking about another way of submitting it ? Regards, -- jhell ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Automated kernel crash reporting system
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 08:06:50 -0500 jhell jh...@dataix.net wrote: On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 07:09, dan.naumov@ wrote: Hello I noticed the following on the FreeBSD website: http://www.freebsd.org/projects/ideas/ideas.html#p-autoreport Has there been any progress/work done on the automated kernel crash reporting system? The current ways of enabling and gathering the information required by developers for investigating panics and similar issues are unintuitive and user-hostile to say the least and anything to automate the process would be a very welcome addition. - Sincerely, Dan Naumov Hi Dan, I am assuming that the output of crashinfo_enable=YES is not what you are talking about is it ? are you aware of it ? The info contained in the crashinfo.txt.N is pretty informative for developers, maybe your talking about another way of submitting it ? This feature is mentioned as a mechanism which could be used as part of the automatic reporting functionality. So it's not quite the same thing. --- Gary Jennejohn ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Loader.conf mfs statements
Tyring to understand what mfsbsd is doing. In its loader.conf file i see these statements geom_uzip_load=YES mfs_load=YES mfs_type=mfs_root mfs_name-/mfsroot tmpfs_laod=YES vfs.root.mountfrom=ufs:/dev/mdo Where do I find documentation on the meaning of these statements? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: / slice too small
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 08:23 pm, krad wrote: 2010/3/4 Malcolm Kay malcolm@internode.on.net On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 02:44 am, krad wrote: On 3 March 2010 14:23, Malcolm Kay malcolm@internode.on.net wrote: On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 08:44 am, krad wrote: On 28 February 2010 15:42, Elias Chrysocheris elias...@cha.forthnet.grwrote: You might well find it easier to use rsync rather than dump. Just make sure you use the following flags rsync -aHP --numeric-ids This is a bit questionable for copying live fs. Probably OK if you use snapshots. Leaves you in very similar situation as doing backups with tar. These schemes also alter the access times on files (which I guess doesn't usually matter too much). But dump/restore is no more complex to use than rsync and manages snapshots for you, so why mess about with questionable schemes. I understand what you mean about live file systems, but in this case its not a problem as he will be in single user mode. I'm not sure that single user mode avoids this problem. Also using the a flag means the modification times are intact. I did not mention modification times but access times which I admit are seldom put to any use. It is very difficult for any utility to avoid altering these -- dump is the only exception I know of. Sorry i misread I use rsync at work over 100s of systems and it is very effective, and the noc find it far easier to recover small numbers of files than having to go digging into dump files. I've not found this too difficult even when working with compressed dumps. The way we have got everything setup on a zfs backend mean we can do incremental forever, as well which is much more efficient than having to do regular level 0 dumps. Yes, rsync is great for updating incremental changes but this is quite irrelevant to the OP's problem. For backup it seems this also somewhat reduces the effectiveness. For example when you are asked to recover the original of a file that was changed before the lastest backup. Many of us think it desirable to regularly archive complete backups. This is not a problem in our scenario as the backend storage is zfs and all underpinned with snapshots. This enables us to retrieve and file from any day for the last x days dependent on the retention period. Sounds good. I have no experience with zfs. But I suggest that 'x' needs to be quite large. Anyway I think we (or rather I) have done the subject to death, and it is time for me to keep quiet. Regards, Malcolm ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Loader.conf mfs statements
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 09:48:27PM +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: Tyring to understand what mfsbsd is doing. In its loader.conf file i see these statements geom_uzip_load=YES mfs_load=YES mfs_type=mfs_root mfs_name-/mfsroot tmpfs_laod=YES vfs.root.mountfrom=ufs:/dev/mdo Where do I find documentation on the meaning of these statements? loader.conf(5) and /boot/defaults/loader.conf -- Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Automated kernel crash reporting system
Hi Dan, Automatic reporting would end up being a mess given that panics can be caused by hardware problems. Having an autoreport check if memtest was run before it reports, or having it only run with -CURRENTmight be useful. Sean From: jhell jh...@dataix.net To: Dan Naumov dan.nau...@gmail.com Cc: FreeBSD Hackers freebsd-hack...@freebsd.org; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 8:06:50 AM Subject: Re: Automated kernel crash reporting system On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 07:09, dan.naumov@ wrote: Hello I noticed the following on the FreeBSD website: http://www.freebsd.org/projects/ideas/ideas.html#p-autoreport Has there been any progress/work done on the automated kernel crash reporting system? The current ways of enabling and gathering the information required by developers for investigating panics and similar issues are unintuitive and user-hostile to say the least and anything to automate the process would be a very welcome addition. - Sincerely, Dan Naumov Hi Dan, I am assuming that the output of crashinfo_enable=YES is not what you are talking about is it ? are you aware of it ? The info contained in the crashinfo.txt.N is pretty informative for developers, maybe your talking about another way of submitting it ? Regards, -- jhell ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Root on ZFS
On 04/03/2010 11:53, Matthew Law wrote: I am following this wiki page to move to zfs root: http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSOnRoot I got to this section: Create bootdir directory where the boot file system will be mounted: # mkdir /tank/bootdir # ln -s bootdir/boot /tank/boot I am confused about the symlink line - what is 'bootdir' ? Thanks, ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Hi Matt bootdir is where the ufs boot partition gets mounted on further down in the instructions... The symbolic link is to keep everything in order when; * upgrading or installing a new kernel * updating any of the boot configs. Regards /Craig B ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Virtual RS232 port link on IP or on network card
Hi, Is it possible to create a virtual COM port on FreeBSD. And to link it to a network card, or what whould be better to an ip adress on my network ? Thanks, Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: install.cfg for Documentation Installation Menu on 8.0-RELEASE
dJ What come up with 8.0-RELEASE is the new FreeBSD dJ Documentation Installation Menu in sysinstall. I would like to know dJ what command for install.cfg to configure my installation with, say, dJ English Documentation. It's undocumented (and breaks non-interactive installs) so I ended up going through the source to find the answer for myself a while ago. The option you want is: distDoc= Where the is a bitfield for which versions of the doc packages you want installed. Also the bitfield must be in _decimal_, not 0x## format, or it won't correctly select what you want. You need to view version 1.75 or higher of dist.h (from sysinstall's source) to get the full listing. URL: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/dist.h?rev=1.75.2.1.2.1;content-type=text%2Fplain 0 (zero) disables installation. 16 is english. *** WARNING/RANT: If you use any of the distSetxx (eg: distSetKernDeveloper) options to select what to install, it doesn't matter what you've selected above - you _will_ be prompted with a menu to select a doc package upon running sysinstall. (Those options reset distDoc option above). Non-interactive sysinstall is effectively broken in FreeBSD 8.0 distribution disks. (There is a way around it, but it's a pain in the butt) That being said: sysinstall has been patched in source last month (Feb 2010), so should be good for 8.1, with the default of no docs installed if nonInteractive=yes is set in your sysinstall.cfg file. R. -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Root on ZFS
On Thu, March 4, 2010 3:44 pm, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Matthew == Matthew Law m...@webcontracts.co.uk writes: Matthew I am following this wiki page to move to zfs root: Matthew http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSOnRoot If you're running RELEASE-8 or later, I've gotten this to work just fine: http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot Thanks, guys. Yes, I am on 8-RELEASE. I was really looking to create a 3-disk raidz or raidz2 volume with 1 hot spare. I happened across this page: http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/RAIDZ2 and started to follow that. Currently live on two slices at arpnetworks.com with that. The trickiest part is that Arp installs an existing system on the disk, and the instructions there don't tell how to remove it. :( I can't remember the workaround, but someone in IRC told me. (gpart destroy didn't work, because it said already in use) I ran into this and figured out I need to remove each slice first. But it did take a little head scratching. I installed a minimal OS from a USB stick onto a single SATA drive. After testing it was installed and running OK, I rebooted and chose the fixit option from sysinstall and followed the above guide. I've got to this part: 7. 'Create ZFS Pool zroot' Fixit# mkdir /boot/zfs Fixit# zpool create zroot raidz2 /dev/gpt/disk0 /dev/gpt/disk1 /dev/gpt/disk2 Fixit# zpool set bootfs=zroot zroot The zpool create command fails because I don't have '/dev/gpt' - I take it I haven't actually installed with gpt in the first place? Can I go back and do that and what's the advantage of gpt? Finally, I had problems with the SAS card in this box, which is a bog standard LSI SAS8041E. I can install OK, but on rebooting it can't find the root slice, panics and drops me into mountroot. Where I get stuck. Any help much appreciated, Matt. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Perl 5.8 - 5.10 On Current Production System
Is there a recommended procedure I can read somewhere on how to upgrade an entire production system from Perl 5.8 to 5.10 (or whatever is current) cleanly? -- Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Root on ZFS
Matthew == Matthew Law m...@webcontracts.co.uk writes: Matthew I am following this wiki page to move to zfs root: Matthew http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSOnRoot If you're running RELEASE-8 or later, I've gotten this to work just fine: http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot Currently live on two slices at arpnetworks.com with that. The trickiest part is that Arp installs an existing system on the disk, and the instructions there don't tell how to remove it. :( I can't remember the workaround, but someone in IRC told me. (gpart destroy didn't work, because it said already in use) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 mer...@stonehenge.com URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Ports: Can I share the port options in /var/db/ports?
I'm sharing my /usr/ports directory via NFS among several machines. One problem that I have is with port options set in /var/db/ports. Is there a ports environment variable that I could set in /etc/make.conf which would force these to be somewhere in /usr/ports/vindaloo-port-options so that setting options on one machine would carry through to others sharing my build environment? -- Chris Chris Hilton tildeChris -- http://myblog.vindaloo.com e: -- chris /at/ vindaloo /dot/ com .~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~. I'm on the outside looking inside, What do I see? Much confusion, disillusion, all around me. -- Ian McDonald / Peter Sinfield ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: RS232 / TCP converter and BSD.
Olivier GARNIER wrote: I have a weather station (Lacross WS2350). (can be connect by USB / RS232). I want to get data from a FreeBSD server 70 meter from the weather station (with http://www.wviewweather.com/ software). I already have a RJ45 cable between the two objects. You can simply connect a RS-232 serial port via ethernet cable using 9-pin DIN to RJ-45 connector adaptors at both ends. No need to convert the serial data stream into TCP/IP over ethernet. Data centers use that for serial connections to stuff like Cisco routers and other terminal applications all the time. However, if the device is truly RS-232 rather than 422/423, it's nominally out of spec past 50 meters and possibly won't go past 9600 baud. Regards. -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ports: Can I share the port options in /var/db/ports?
On 04/03/2010 16:07:33, Christopher Hilton wrote: I'm sharing my /usr/ports directory via NFS among several machines. One problem that I have is with port options set in /var/db/ports. Is there a ports environment variable that I could set in /etc/make.conf which would force these to be somewhere in /usr/ports/vindaloo-port-options so that setting options on one machine would carry through to others sharing my build environment? $PORT_DBDIR Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard, Flat 3 Black Earth Consulting Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW Free and Open Source Solutions Tel: +44 (0)1843 580647 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Solved - Was: Ports: Can I share the port options in /var/db/ports?
On Mar 4, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Christopher Hilton wrote: I'm sharing my /usr/ports directory via NFS among several machines. One problem that I have is with port options set in /var/db/ports. Is there a ports environment variable that I could set in /etc/make.conf which would force these to be somewhere in /usr/ports/vindaloo-port-options so that setting options on one machine would carry through to others sharing my build environment? A little creative greping found it. Sorry to bother the list should have grepped first. # PORT_DBDIR- Where port configuration options are recorded. # Default: /var/db/ports There will be an answer, Let it be. e: chris -at- vindaloo -dot- com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Perl 5.8 - 5.10 On Current Production System
Hi, Tim Daneliuk wrote: Is there a recommended procedure I can read somewhere on how to upgrade an entire production system from Perl 5.8 to 5.10 (or whatever is current) cleanly? Have a look at the 20100205 entry of ports/UPDATING. Regards, -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Perl 5.8 - 5.10 On Current Production System
On 2010-03-04 17:06, Tim Daneliuk wrote: Is there a recommended procedure I can read somewhere on how to upgrade an entire production system from Perl 5.8 to 5.10 (or whatever is current) cleanly? /usr/ports/UPDATING ;-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Perl 5.8 - 5.10 On Current Production System
Tim Daneliuk writes: Is there a recommended procedure I can read somewhere on how to upgrade an entire production system from Perl 5.8 to 5.10 (or whatever is current) cleanly? /usr/ports/UPDATING ? Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: RS232 / TCP converter and BSD.
Olivier GARNIER writes: I have a weather station (Lacross WS2350). (can be connect by USB / RS232). I want to get data from a FreeBSD server 70 meter from the weather station (with http://www.wviewweather.com/ software). I already have a RJ45 cable between the two objects. I wish i could get a RS232 to RJ45 connecter like this one : http://www.lextronic.fr/P6554-convertisseur-tcpip--rs232-cse-h53.html And use it to connect the weather station to the RJ45 network, and then get data from my BSD. The bad point is that the soft witch are given with the RS232 to RJ45 translater are for windows, and it make a virtual port on windows. I don't know if it will work on BSD. If it does not work, i'll be oblige to buy another RJ45 to RS232 translater... and it's not cheap. You did not say what version of FreeBSD you are using and it does make a difference. The usb port stack was rewritten for FreeBSD8.0 so that probably works best. I tried to attach a usb converter to a FreeBSD6.3 system and it never worked. Different models of RS-232 converters may work fine. I just could not get these to work at all under 6.3. RJ45 plugs and CAT3 or CAT5 Ethernet-style cables are frequently used to carry RS-232 signals so the only somewhat unusual device you will need to procure is a plug adaptor such as one made by Modtap which simply has a RJ45 female on one edge and a male or female RS-232 9 or 25-pin plug or socket on the other edge. These adaptors have no IC's or intelligence built in to them. They just route the conductors in the CATx cable to the right pins. You may have to actually build the adaptor to your needs but these things at least used to be fairly common. The actual RS-232 to usb port converters are relatively inexpensive these days and they do have processors built in to them as well as charge pumps to generate the +-12 volts for RS-232 devices. Some of them are built to work fine under systems other than Windows boxes and others may only work under Windows so you will need to be sure that the one you want to use works. So, in short, you need a plug adaptor to make the RJ45 cable useble with RS-232 devices and you also need any of the common RS-232 to usb converters to actually connect the cable to your FreeBSD computer. As long as the usb-RS-232 converter actually works and produces a new ttyUSBx device, the brand is not that critical. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Virtual RS232 port link on IP or on network card
Hi, Not sure if this is what you want to do or not, but if you want to connect a device to a serial port on FreeBSD and then access that serial device over the network from a remote machine, try /usr/ports/comms/ser2net ---Mike At 10:08 AM 3/4/2010, Olivier GARNIER wrote: Hi, Is it possible to create a virtual COM port on FreeBSD. And to link it to a network card, or what whould be better to an ip adress on my network ? Thanks, Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications,m...@sentex.net Providing Internet since 1994www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: RS232 / TCP converter and BSD.
Chuck Swiger writes: Data centers use that for serial connections to stuff like Cisco routers and other terminal applications all the time. However, if the device is truly RS-232 rather than 422/423, it's nominally out of spec past 50 meters and possibly won't go past 9600 baud. I was wondering about that when I wrote my long-winded response. I was confused and thought the maximum length for RS-232 was longer than it is. 70 meters is almost 25% out of range which is kind of pushing things. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: RS232 / TCP converter and BSD.
They make line drivers to sit inline and boost the signals to extend the range, similar to T1 repeaters I suppose. I had to use some 10'ish years ago. They weren't too expensive then, can't imagine the would be now. But back to OP ?, I'm sure someone has a program that takes an RS-232 stream and sticks it in tcp or udp. If I'm bored today I'll poke around the ports and google and such. - Original Message - From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thu Mar 04 10:41:00 2010 Subject: Re: RS232 / TCP converter and BSD. Chuck Swiger writes: Data centers use that for serial connections to stuff like Cisco routers and other terminal applications all the time. However, if the device is truly RS-232 rather than 422/423, it's nominally out of spec past 50 meters and possibly won't go past 9600 baud. I was wondering about that when I wrote my long-winded response. I was confused and thought the maximum length for RS-232 was longer than it is. 70 meters is almost 25% out of range which is kind of pushing things. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org font size=1 div style='border:none;border-bottom:double windowtext 2.25pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in' /div This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, dissemination, disclosure or copying of this email and its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system. /font ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Virtual RS232 port link on IP or on network card
Mike Tancsa m...@sentex.net writes: Hello, Not sure if this is what you want to do or not, but if you want to connect a device to a serial port on FreeBSD and then access that serial device over the network from a remote machine, try /usr/ports/comms/ser2net Nope, seems to be the opposite. In OP's context, I'd try to check whether the application he wants to use could be configured to access a remote device over ip (the manual talks about connections to remote weather stations). Generally, is there any way to create a virtual serial device that would be backed by a userland daemon implementing rfc2217 for example ? Regards -- J'ai essayé de creer un news un alt.west.virginia ou sur d'autres alt.west.wirginia.xxx mais quand je vais sur ces forums rien n'apparait? l'emetteur d'un new recoit il un avertissement si celui ci est censuré? -+- LM in: http://www.le-gnu.net - Bien sansurer ses news sur C-I -+- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Perl 5.8 - 5.10 On Current Production System
On 3/4/2010 10:13 AM, Leslie Jensen wrote: On 2010-03-04 17:06, Tim Daneliuk wrote: Is there a recommended procedure I can read somewhere on how to upgrade an entire production system from Perl 5.8 to 5.10 (or whatever is current) cleanly? /usr/ports/UPDATING ;-) Thanks to all for pointing to this. However, when I run: portupgrade -o lang/perl5.10 -f perl-5.8\.* I get this problem: --- Upgrading 'perl-5.8.9_3' to 'perl-5.10.1' (lang/perl5.10) --- Building '/usr/ports/lang/perl5.10' === Cleaning for perl-5.10.1 === perl-5.10.1 conflicts with installed package(s): perl-5.8.9_3 They install files into the same place. Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). *** Error code 1 I supposed I could do a forced manual removal of perl, but isn't that what the '-f' arg in the portupgrade is supposed to do? -- Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Perl 5.8 - 5.10 On Current Production System
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/03/2010 17:05:08, Tim Daneliuk wrote: On 3/4/2010 10:13 AM, Leslie Jensen wrote: On 2010-03-04 17:06, Tim Daneliuk wrote: Is there a recommended procedure I can read somewhere on how to upgrade an entire production system from Perl 5.8 to 5.10 (or whatever is current) cleanly? /usr/ports/UPDATING ;-) Thanks to all for pointing to this. However, when I run: portupgrade -o lang/perl5.10 -f perl-5.8\.* I get this problem: --- Upgrading 'perl-5.8.9_3' to 'perl-5.10.1' (lang/perl5.10) --- Building '/usr/ports/lang/perl5.10' === Cleaning for perl-5.10.1 === perl-5.10.1 conflicts with installed package(s): perl-5.8.9_3 They install files into the same place. Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). *** Error code 1 I supposed I could do a forced manual removal of perl, but isn't that what the '-f' arg in the portupgrade is supposed to do? You got bitten by an ill-considered change introduced after the UPDATING instructions were written. To work around it, you need to set DISABLE_CONFLICTS when rebuilding the port, eg like this: # portupgrade -m DISABLE_CONFLICTS=yes -o lang/perl5.10 -f perl-5.8\.* Please feel free to complain volubly about this: it's hand-holding for newbies which annoys and incoveniences the vastly larger number of non-newbies (ie. anyone who has been using the ports for more than a few weeks.) Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuP6kAACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzOFwCcDWkYxJrX+nPwWpzhrWGBuLTO MIIAn1wVGgCJc4nFdDdxmyXnuzbJ3kni =LfKt -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Booting MFS from Secondary Partition
I have hit one of these impenetrable walls in which nothing seems to work but I know it should. I have tried several versions of /boot.config to no avail. The idea is exactly the same principle as described in depenguinator which is software that lets one use grub in Linux to install FreeBSD on a working Linux system. The idea is to steal the swap partition, put mfsboot there, and then tell grub to boot from that partition rather than the normal active one. The manual for boot.config makes me think I should be able to just put in the information describing the secondary partition and it should cause a boot from that one but: /boot.config: 1:ad(0,b)/boot/loader -P FreeBSD/i386 boot Default: 1:ad(0,b)/boot/loader boot: error 1 lba 0 No /boot/loader The mfsboot image works when started from the primary partition so I am stuck as to why boot.config is not starting from that secondary partition. The present boot.config is: 1:ad(0,b)/boot/loader -P If mfsbsd was starting, shouldn't it see its boot loader? Is there a mfsbsd discussion list? Surely, somebody else has hit this brick wall, also. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Perl 5.8 - 5.10 On Current Production System
On 3/4/2010 11:13 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: portupgrade -m DISABLE_CONFLICTS=yes -o lang/perl5.10 -f perl-5.8\.* Thanks for that. I'm not sure to whom I'd complain and/or if it would make any difference ;) -- Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Automated kernel crash reporting system
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 05:50:56AM -0800, sean connolly thus spake: Hi Dan, Automatic reporting would end up being a mess given that panics can be caused by hardware problems. Having an autoreport check if memtest was run before it reports, or having it only run with -CURRENTmight be useful. Sean I only slightly disagree, in that in a production environment it may be useful to have the information regardless of the branch to report to an internal company e-mail address. But, maybe there is a routine for -CURRENT to go to @freebsd, in addition to an internal address. Just some thoughts... -j From: jhell jh...@dataix.net To: Dan Naumov dan.nau...@gmail.com Cc: FreeBSD Hackers freebsd-hack...@freebsd.org; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 8:06:50 AM Subject: Re: Automated kernel crash reporting system On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 07:09, dan.naumov@ wrote: Hello I noticed the following on the FreeBSD website: http://www.freebsd.org/projects/ideas/ideas.html#p-autoreport Has there been any progress/work done on the automated kernel crash reporting system? The current ways of enabling and gathering the information required by developers for investigating panics and similar issues are unintuitive and user-hostile to say the least and anything to automate the process would be a very welcome addition. - Sincerely, Dan Naumov Hi Dan, I am assuming that the output of crashinfo_enable=YES is not what you are talking about is it ? are you aware of it ? The info contained in the crashinfo.txt.N is pretty informative for developers, maybe your talking about another way of submitting it ? Regards, -- jhell ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Virtualbox on Freebsd
I'm trying to build it from ports right now and running into all sorts of issues with qt4 stuff. --On Wednesday, March 03, 2010 20:50:32 -0500 Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Chris Hill wrote: On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Thomas Lawrence wrote: Hello Guys and Gals, Can you clear something up for me. Is it possible to install the closed source version of Virtualbox on Freebsd8. Glen Barber posted this... http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg217302.html ...last summer. I have not tried it, just saying it's there. It is a (horribly outdated) pkg_add(1) installer. I haven't had a chance to update it yet; hopefully this weekend now that my attention has been drawn to it. For the record, it is not the closed-source version. It is emulators/virtualbox before it was repocopied to emulators/virtualbox-ose-*. Regards, -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. *** It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead. Thomas Jefferson ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: RS232 / TCP converter and BSD.
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Thu Mar 4 10:41:36 2010 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 10:41:00 -0600 From: Martin McCormick mar...@dc.cis.okstate.edu Subject: Re: RS232 / TCP converter and BSD. Chuck Swiger writes: Data centers use that for serial connections to stuff like Cisco routers and other terminal applications all the time. However, if the device is truly RS-232 rather than 422/423, it's nominally out of spec past 50 meters and possibly won't go past 9600 baud. I was wondering about that when I wrote my long-winded response. I was confused and thought the maximum length for RS-232 was longer than it is. 70 meters is almost 25% out of range which is kind of pushing things. The 'standard' way to get around that distance limitation is to use a RS-232 to current-loop adapter, often referred to as a 'short haul modem'. see: http://www.blackbox.com/Store/Detail.aspx/Short-Haul-Modem-Nonpowered-Async-SHM-NPR-DB25-Male/ME721A-M-R3 for one example from a quality, but fairly pricey, source. Note: you need one of these on each end of the wire. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Virtualbox on Freebsd
On 4 March 2010 14:15, Paul Schmehl pschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com wrote: I'm trying to build it from ports right now and running into all sorts of issues with qt4 stuff. This doesn't exactly inspire confidence when it comes time for me to do my next round of updates. I remember running into an issue with qt when building Virtualbox but I *believe* a forced removal of everything qt related and letting it start the process from scratch fixed the issue. I'll keep better notes next time :-\ kmw -- A: Maybe because some people are too annoyed by top-posting. Q: Why do I not get an answer to my question(s)? A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Virtualbox on Freebsd
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Paul Schmehl wrote: I'm trying to build it from ports right now and running into all sorts of issues with qt4 stuff. VirtualBox builds fine here, but on a recent 8-stable it locks the system when starting a FreeBSD VM. Maybe on all VMs, but fscks are no fun so I haven't tried. There's a probably-related thread in -emulation. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: xorg, xdm, desktop env
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:30:05 +0100, n dhert ndhert...@gmail.com wrote: Installed a fresh FreeBSD-8.0, xorg, configured xorg for my screen, installed xdm. After reboot I see a graphical login window. When entering username and password, it seems to accept it, but immediatly present the graphical login window again. (In console mode (Ctrl-Alt-F1) I can login at the login: prompt with the same username/password). Has FreeSBD somewhere a default environment (in that case why does it not appear after logging in at the XDM graphical window) or do you still need to install a Desktop environment (Gnome, KDE, Xfce) and is it normal that after logging in at the XDM window, you are thrown out again.. As far as I know, earlier X installations came with the tab window manager - twm. This doesn't seem to be the case anymore. Because neither X or FreeBSD itself do include a complete desktop environment (such as KDE, Gnome, Xfce), you need to install it yourself, and then make it available to your user using ~/.xsession or ~/.xinitrc respectively. If those files are not present, a default should be used by X. According to which version of X you have installed, those defaults could launch twm with some xterms (the default is somewhere in /usr/local/lib/X11, ex /usr/X11R6/lib/X11), or just recognize that X program initialisation is missing and then exit - which is still a bit strange, because the X server should run anyway, without programs. Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for possible errors. What does happen if you don't run xdm, but instead log in with your user account and then run the startx command? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: xorg, xdm, desktop env
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:30:05 +0100, n dhert ndhert...@gmail.com wrote: Installed a fresh FreeBSD-8.0, xorg, configured xorg for my screen, installed xdm. After reboot I see a graphical login window. When entering username and password, it seems to accept it, but immediatly present the graphical login window again. (In console mode (Ctrl-Alt-F1) I can login at the login: prompt with the same username/password). Has FreeSBD somewhere a default environment (in that case why does it not appear after logging in at the XDM graphical window) or do you still need to install a Desktop environment (Gnome, KDE, Xfce) and is it normal that after logging in at the XDM window, you are thrown out again.. As far as I know, earlier X installations came with the tab window manager - twm. This doesn't seem to be the case anymore. twm is still enabled by default as part of the x11/xorg-apps port. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: xorg, xdm, desktop env
On 03/04/10 17:43, Warren Block wrote: On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Polytropon wrote: snip As far as I know, earlier X installations came with the tab window manager - twm. This doesn't seem to be the case anymore. twm is still enabled by default as part of the x11/xorg-apps port. I can confirm that, and I too have problems with XDM despite having 'exec wmaker' in my .xinitrc in my home directory (sometimes XDM will kick me out to the login, sometimes it will just take me to a blank session wherein I can do nothing). I'd like to use XDM and have it start on boot so I'm interested in the outcome of this. -- Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscribed. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[ fbsd_questions ] tar(1) vs. msdos_fs: a death_spiral ?
greetings, all --- i confess that this one has me flummoxed. the short question: does tar(1) spit_up when extracting onto an msdos_fs hard_drive ? [ i tried the mailing_list archives tar AND msdos, for -questions, -chat, -bugs, -newbies, -performance ] [ other research as indicated ] i have no problem using tar(1) on ufs. large files, small files; if i am on ufs, everything is fine. i have been creating tarballs from medium_size msdos_fs drives, also. this worked fine. i would check them by extracting into a ufs root_point. no problem. this week, i tried to do something new. i wanted to take a tarball, already on ufs, that was created from an msdos_fs drive and extract it onto an msdos_fs drive. this, to me, actually seems like a reaasonable idea; but, what do i know ? well, it starts out just fine, but, it rapidly degenerates into what is, normally, infinite_loop land. when ps(1) says cpu_% of 1%, 2%, 5%; ok, it is an active process. in about ten minutes, tar(1) enters 90% cpu. after 20 minutes, 99%. i does not matter if X_windows is running. foreground or background process, no difference. it seems to be working correctly because the error_file is always of zero_size. i suspect that if i left it alone, after a few days, it would finish. some details [ everything is ufs, using 8kB/1kB, except /mnt, which is clustered as indicated; of course, the tarball is not named ball, nor is the path, to the tarball, named path, but, then, you knew that ]. mkdir /path_c mkdir /path_c/88_x mkdir /path_d mkdir /path_d/88_x mount -v -t msdos /dev/ad1s1 /mnt [ fat_32, about 6_GB, 4_KB cluster, the c:\ drive, primary partition. ] cd /mnt ( tar cvplf /path_c/99_ball.tar . /path_c/90_cvpl.out ) /path_c/91_cvpl.err[ real time 16m 07s, exit_status 0 ] cd / ; umount /mnt mount -v -t msdos /dev/ad1s5 /mnt [ fat_32, about 12_GB, 8_KB cluster, the d:\ drive, extended partition. ] cd /mnt ( tar cvplf /path_d/99_ball.tar . /path_d/90_cvpl.out ) /path_d/91_cvpl.err[ real time 20m 15s, exit_status 0 ] cd / ; umount /mnt cd /path_c/88_x ( tar xvplf ../99_ball.tar ../92_xvpl.out ) ../93_xvpl.err [ real time 08m 11s; exit_status 0 ] diff ../9[02]* [ exit_status 0; the tables_of_contents are the same ] ls -l ..[ visually inspect the error_files to be of zero_size - verified ] cd /path_d/88_x ( tar xvplf ../99_ball.tar ../92_xvpl.out ) ../93_xvpl.err [ real time 12m 37s; exit_status 0 ] diff ../9[02]* [ exit_status 0; the tables_of_contents are the same ] ls -l ..[ visually inspect the error_files to be of zero_size - verified ] [ note that this approach works; it is a good excuse to refill my coffee_cup. ] [ physically replace the source hard_drive w/ 80_GB capacity, 32_KB cluster, primary_partition only, virgin hard_drive. this destination hard_drive was fdisked and formated yesterday_morning; this drive was scandisked yesterday for 12 hours, using the thorough option, it has zero bad clusters [ i wanted to eliminate the drive as the problem ] ]. mount -v -t msdos /dev/ad1s1 /mnt mkdir /mnt/path_cc cd/mnt/path_cc ( tar xvplf /path_c/99_ball.tar ../92_xvpl.out ) ../93_xvpl.err[ started this at 18:05_utc, it is now about 21:35_utc; the toc_file, from the 8_minute extraction above, has 87517 lines in it; the current toc_file has only 12667 lines. ] [ this is the second hard_drive i have tried this on, this week; i will probably kill the process as xterm is being updated about 8 seconds apart, now. ] on the first hard_drive [ i have not done this on the second drive, yet ] i noted that i had a successful extraction on the ufs drive. not being the smartest person around, i had, what i thought to be, a --brilliant-- idea, what if i try a recursive copy of the successful extraction ? this is interesting; the recursive copy started_out like gang_busters, then, just like the extraction, slowly bogged_down to 99%_cpu. hmmm..., two different msdos_fs hard_drives, two different normally_reliable utilities, same progressive_hogging of the cpu. this makes me wonder about the msdos_fs hard_drive, which is, rapidly, becoming the only remaining common factor. ok. i tried the mailing lists. right now, i am web_page searching; tar(1) seems to be slow in some situations, but, i have not, yet, found --this-- situation. also, in reading the
Re: Loader.conf mfs statements
Daniel Bye wrote: On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 09:48:27PM +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: Tyring to understand what mfsbsd is doing. In its loader.conf file i see these statements geom_uzip_load=YES mfs_load=YES mfs_type=mfs_root mfs_name-/mfsroot tmpfs_laod=YES vfs.root.mountfrom=ufs:/dev/mdo Where do I find documentation on the meaning of these statements? loader.conf(5) and /boot/defaults/loader.conf All ready checked those sources before posting with no joy. IE: your are wrong. Those sources have no info on the mfs* statements. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Virtualbox on Freebsd
--On Thursday, March 04, 2010 17:12:26 -0500 Kevin Wilcox kevin.wil...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 March 2010 14:15, Paul Schmehl pschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com wrote: I'm trying to build it from ports right now and running into all sorts of issues with qt4 stuff. This doesn't exactly inspire confidence when it comes time for me to do my next round of updates. I remember running into an issue with qt when building Virtualbox but I *believe* a forced removal of everything qt related and letting it start the process from scratch fixed the issue. I'll keep better notes next time :-\ I'm running portupgrade now. (It's been a while.) If that doesn't fix it, I'll try to forced deletion of everything qt and see if that fixes it. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. *** It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead. Thomas Jefferson ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Booting MFS from Secondary Partition
Martin McCormick wrote: I have hit one of these impenetrable walls in which nothing seems to work but I know it should. I have tried several versions of /boot.config to no avail. The idea is exactly the same principle as described in depenguinator which is software that lets one use grub in Linux to install FreeBSD on a working Linux system. The idea is to steal the swap partition, put mfsboot there, and then tell grub to boot from that partition rather than the normal active one. The manual for boot.config makes me think I should be able to just put in the information describing the secondary partition and it should cause a boot from that one but: /boot.config: 1:ad(0,b)/boot/loader -P FreeBSD/i386 boot Default: 1:ad(0,b)/boot/loader boot: error 1 lba 0 No /boot/loader The mfsboot image works when started from the primary partition so I am stuck as to why boot.config is not starting from that secondary partition. The present boot.config is: 1:ad(0,b)/boot/loader -P If mfsbsd was starting, shouldn't it see its boot loader? Is there a mfsbsd discussion list? Surely, somebody else has hit this brick wall, also. From what I read in this freebsd.org article http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/remote-install/index.html There is hard coded logic that is stopping you from doing what you want. Looks like you are SOL. Booting mfsBSD Now that the mfsBSD image is ready, it must be uploaded to the remote system running a live rescue system or pre-installed Linux® distribution. The most suitable tool for this task is scp: # scp disk.img r...@192.168.0.2:. To boot mfsBSD image properly, it must be placed on the first (bootable) device of the given machine. This may be accomplished using this example providing that sda is the first bootable disk device: # dd if=/root/disk.img of=/dev/sda bs=1m If all went well, the image should now be in the MBR of the first device and the machine can be rebooted. Watch for the machine to boot up properly with the ping(8) tool. Once it has came back on-line, it should be possible to access it over ssh(1) as user root with the configured password. The mfsbsd process has new maintainer, Martin Matuska m...@freebsd.org Email him for help. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Flash viewer for FBSD
Hi all, I have been using FBSD since 5.4 until now 8.0. Mostly, I use it as a server and coding C (as my hobby). All the time I stay in console without fancy of any GUI. For GUI applications, I mostly use Windows. Now I want to use only FBSD for web browsing and don't want to use Windows. I installed FBSD 7.1 with KDE 3.5 from CD. Then I csup(ed) and buildworld to FBSD 7.2 and then finally FBSD 8.0 while remaining KDE unchanged. I use opera-10.10 for web browsing. The problem is that ``flash viewer'' is not installed. Shockwave/Adobe/Macromedia flash viewers are not shipped with FBSD CD. It looks very bad for browsing web without flash viewer. I tried installing from ports. - opera-linuxplugins-10.10. - linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0 - f4l-0.2.1.4 (I guess it stands for ``flash for linux''.) But they do not fix the problem. Anyone who can fix this problem please point me out. Thanks, Pongthep ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Flash viewer for FBSD
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:14:15 +0700, Pongthep Kulkrisada ptkris...@gmail.com wrote: I installed FBSD 7.1 with KDE 3.5 from CD. Then I csup(ed) and buildworld to FBSD 7.2 and then finally FBSD 8.0 while remaining KDE unchanged. Do you have compat7x installed? If you already updated to OS 8.0, you should update your ports tree, too, and use the current ports. I use opera-10.10 for web browsing. An excellent web browser. Good choice. :-) It looks very bad for browsing web without flash viewer. Sad... but with HTML 5, it may be a chance that the web world can finally say goodbye to this idiotic Flash that is mostly used by inexperienced or lazy Internet programmers (they often call theirselves that way) to make the web intendedly unaccessible... as if the web would consist of Flash only... I tried installing from ports. - opera-linuxplugins-10.10. - linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0 - f4l-0.2.1.4 (I guess it stands for ``flash for linux''.) But they do not fix the problem. Just installing isn't enough, there's some configuration work to be done. By the way, you may be interested in checking how gnash (a GNU based Flash implementation) or swfdec may fit your needs. Anyone who can fix this problem please point me out. Sure. Maybe the handbook can help here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/desktop-browsers.html See 6.2.3 for detailed information. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Flash viewer for FBSD
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 12:14:15PM +0700, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote: [...] I use opera-10.10 for web browsing. It looks very bad for browsing web without flash viewer. I tried installing from ports. - opera-linuxplugins-10.10. - linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0 - f4l-0.2.1.4 (I guess it stands for ``flash for linux''.) But they do not fix the problem. Anyone who can fix this problem please point me out. I have installed emulators/linux_base-f10, www/linux-opera-10.10 and linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0r45 on a 7.2 FreeBSD an can now look at and listen to flash movies on youtube and other sites. Sabine -- /\ \ / ASCII ribbon campaign X against HTML in mail and news / \ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
OT: how to reset high scores on gnome games
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Re: Perl 5.8 - 5.10 On Current Production System
On Thursday 04 March 2010 19:13:36 Matthew Seaman wrote: You got bitten by an ill-considered change introduced after the UPDATING instructions were written. To work around it, you need to set DISABLE_CONFLICTS when rebuilding the port, eg like this: # portupgrade -m DISABLE_CONFLICTS=yes -o lang/perl5.10 -f perl-5.8\.* Please feel free to complain volubly about this: it's hand-holding for newbies which annoys and incoveniences the vastly larger number of non-newbies (ie. anyone who has been using the ports for more than a few weeks.) Has this absolutely ludicrous change not been reverted with extreme prejudice yet? And is there a PR where we can add interesting suggestions as to what miseries should be inflicted on the person responsible for it? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
