Re: [Gendergap] article for first women's political party in Pakistan is about to be deleted

2017-07-10 Thread Neotarf
Thank you Camelia.

The Womanity Foundation article is looking great, I enjoyed reading it.
Too bad the Yann Borgstedt article didn't make it, maybe there are more
sources in French language and it would do better on French Wikipedia.
There seems to be a lot in Spanish as well.

What does anyone think of this artist?   The article has just been relisted
at AfD, it looks like she has had some international exhibitions and won
some awards.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lina_Condes

http://avantgallery.com/lina-condes/
Awarded the “2016 Best of International Emerging Artist” in Dubai
http://nomosoho.com/press-releases/nomo-soho-debuts-emerging-artist-lina-condes-bagel-emoji-2-bachelor-miami-sculptures/
exhibition

Sculpture on cover of Art Monaco by Lina Condes
http://artmonacomagazine.com/lina-condes/

Art Miami'16 miami exhibition (Ukrainian language) http:/
tabloid.pravda.com.ua/news/58512a4420568/
https://ukrop.depo.ua/ukr/molodoy_ukrop/hudozhnitsya-lina-condes-predstavila-ukrayinu-v-mayami-15122016094800

http://artemonaco.com/web/en/exhibitor_details/36 bio with details of
exhibition prizes

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 2:27 AM, camelia boban 
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> Thank you Neotarf, hope with these sources the article will be safe for
> deletion.
>
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> 2017-06-27 5:43 GMT+02:00 Neotarf :
>
>> Here is the archived article: "Women’s political party launched Pakistan
>> Women Muslim League (PWML)" January 6, 2014 http://archive.is/V3Vpk
>>
>> Party registered with PEC Pakistan Election Commission:
>> https://books.google.com/books?id=RROXCwAAQBAJ=PA280=
>> Pakistan+Women+Muslim+League,+Rubina+Shaheen=en=X=
>> 0ahUKEwicvJSP19zUAhWFOz4KHQK6BMAQ6AEIKDAA#v=onepage=Pakist
>> an%20Women%20Muslim%20League%2C%20Rubina%20Shaheen=false
>>
>> Cabinet list and photo of oath-taking ceremony
>> http://pwml.pk/index.php/cabinets/188-oath-taking-cermony
>>
>> Official website (English and Urdu): http://pwml.pk/
>>
>> See also Maimoonah Khan https://www.facebook.com/pwml.islamabad/ and
>> Urdu https://www.facebook.com/pwmlp, FB profile:
>> https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100012757092035=ts There
>> seem to be new internal elections underway by email starting 3 days ago.
>>
>> Twitter https://twitter.com/chrpersonpwml?lang=en
>>
>> YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCLP3T3yn95nLlP1DLY4LBQ
>> Another Youtube Rubina Shaheen speaking in Peshawar
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X1eatiEeeo
>>
>> Rubina Shaheen introduces herself as primary school teacher
>> https://www.worldpulse.com/en/community/users/rubina-shaheen#stories
>>
>> Linked in: https://pk.linkedin.com/in/rubina-shaheen-22a252100
>>
>> There is also a Rubina Shaheen Wattoo, daughter of Manzoor Wattoo,
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manzoor_Wattoo who seems to have won some
>> elections, http://www.pap.gov.pk/index.php/members/profile/en/19/647 and
>> may be notable, but by the photographs this does not appear to be the same
>> person. Disambig page?
>>
>> There was a Rubina/Robina Shaheen who ran in the 2013 election for PK-5
>> Peshawar KPK Assembly seat, but the party affiliation (PML-Q) (probably The
>> Pakistan Muslim League or Quaid e Azam Group, Urdu: پاکستان مسلم لیگ ق‎)
>> does not look right (s/b PWML), so probably not the same one.
>> https://www.thenews.com.pk/archive/amp/432028-all-women-cand
>> idates-from-kp-lost-election-by-huge-marginshttp://www.
>> electionpakistani.com/ge2013/pk/PK-5.htm
>>
>> There was a fair amount of coverage of PWML in Urdu sources here, from
>> their official website, unfortunately these are photos of newspaper
>> clippings and not digitized. http://pwml.pk/index.php/home-
>> en/10-icetheme/features/245-news-media
>>
>> This may be the only women's party in the world, as Pakistan has seats
>> reserved for women (although it is not the only country to do this)
>> https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2013/may/09/pakista
>> n-female-election-candidates-confidence
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 7:00 PM, Ryan Kaldari 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The article for the first women's political party in Pakistan is about
>>> to be deleted, unless someone can find some sources for it.[1][2]
>>> Urdu-language speakers would be especially useful for this effort.
>>>
>>> 1. 

Re: [Gendergap] article for first women's political party in Pakistan is about to be deleted

2017-06-30 Thread Natacha Rault
Thanks Jonathan, that’s exactly what happened, and I think in this case it was 
the word ”sodomy” that caused the problem. Kind regards, Natacha


Le 30 juin 2017 à 08:30, Jonathan Cardy  a écrit :

Hi Natacha,

The explicit language filter may be quite widespread, it is one of the edit 
filters in English and a fairly obvious filter for any language that has 
encountered vandalism. Depending on how the filter has been set up it will of 
course apply to different words in each language. But if you are doing outreach 
and people may be writing in one of those areas where "rude words" are needed, 
you might want to warn them that until they have done ten edits and had an 
account for four days the Wikipedia computers will assume that if they use a 
rude word they are a vandal. Usually they are right, so this filter isn't going 
to be removed.

Regards

Jonathan 


On 30 Jun 2017, at 05:09, Natacha Rault > wrote:

> Hi There, I happen to live in Geneva and coukd provide photos for the 
> Womanity Foundation. I know somebody working there.
> 
> I am also interested in translating the article in French. Will do, shortly.
> 
> Thanks for the notice. We experiment article deletion quite often too on the 
> French wki, but have bern able to discuss within the project les  sans pages 
> and help people with such issues, although we also have been accused of 
> voting together and therefore influencing results. We have developped - I 
> think - a nice atmosphere on this project and we are not tackling women bios 
> only. 
> 
> On the other hand, one of our group was at last able to translate "LGBT 
> history in Switzerland" in Italian, but it was first not possible because of 
> the use of "explicit language" (the reason given for not publishing the 
> translation). This was an automatic response that Edeosenfed received when he 
> pushed the publish button after finishing hus translation in Italian. We 
> tried to add more infornation on lesbian women in the article, but adding 
> info on trans women history (and trans men) was a challenge and still is : it 
> was hard to find sources of the historical context. We still have to work on 
> that. 
> 
> Kind regards,
> Nattes à chat
> 
> Le 30 juin 2017 à 00:54, Neotarf  > a écrit :
> 
>> Looking at the discussion, it seems they are using the wrong notability 
>> guideline, the first one, WP:COMPANY, which would be used for restaurants or 
>> garage bands, instead of WP:NONPROFIT 
>> ,
>>  further down the page. The page is rather confusing in the way it is 
>> organized, but I don't see any other category that could be used for 
>> political parties or organizations in the public interest. 
>> 
>> According to WP:NONPROFIT: 
>> 
>> Non-commercial organizations
>> 
>> Organizations are usually notable if they meet both of the following 
>> standards:
>> 
>> The scope of their activities is national or international in scale
>> The organization has received significant coverage in multiple reliable 
>> sources that are independent of the organization.
>> So I have compiled a list of the Farsi-language sources at 
>> https://neotarf.wordpress.com/2017/06/29/sources-for-pakistan-women-muslim-league/
>>  
>> 
>> A total of 12 newspapers have published articles about Pakistan Women Muslim 
>> League, including an interview with the founder. There are 11 articles from 
>> Peshawar (local) sources, 2 from unidentified sources, and 3 articles from 
>> sources from the capital in Islamabad, showing national scope, as does the 
>> fact that the party is registered nationally.  
>> 
>> If there is not a consensus for an article, perhaps the information could be 
>> added to another article, I see there is 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Pakistan#Minor_or_regional_parties
>>  
>> 
>>  although I suppose you would have to nominate all the other small parties 
>> for deletion as well, or incorporate them into the list.
>> 
>> I really have to wonder if this is a good use of our time.  While I 
>> appreciate Ryan's efforts in bringing this issue here, it took me literally 
>> hours to identify these articles to establish notability, on a topic that 
>> should already be obviously notable.  Shouldn't anyone be able to go to 
>> Wikipedia to find information about another country's political system.
>> 
>> On a similar note, I see The Womanity Foundation 
>>  nominated for 
>> deletion and the person who started the article referred to as "an SPA".  
>> Welcome to Wikipedia. A quick google shows a 

Re: [Gendergap] article for first women's political party in Pakistan is about to be deleted

2017-06-30 Thread Jonathan Cardy
Hi Natacha,

The explicit language filter may be quite widespread, it is one of the edit 
filters in English and a fairly obvious filter for any language that has 
encountered vandalism. Depending on how the filter has been set up it will of 
course apply to different words in each language. But if you are doing outreach 
and people may be writing in one of those areas where "rude words" are needed, 
you might want to warn them that until they have done ten edits and had an 
account for four days the Wikipedia computers will assume that if they use a 
rude word they are a vandal. Usually they are right, so this filter isn't going 
to be removed.

Regards

Jonathan 


> On 30 Jun 2017, at 05:09, Natacha Rault  wrote:
> 
> Hi There, I happen to live in Geneva and coukd provide photos for the 
> Womanity Foundation. I know somebody working there.
> 
> I am also interested in translating the article in French. Will do, shortly.
> 
> Thanks for the notice. We experiment article deletion quite often too on the 
> French wki, but have bern able to discuss within the project les  sans pages 
> and help people with such issues, although we also have been accused of 
> voting together and therefore influencing results. We have developped - I 
> think - a nice atmosphere on this project and we are not tackling women bios 
> only. 
> 
> On the other hand, one of our group was at last able to translate "LGBT 
> history in Switzerland" in Italian, but it was first not possible because of 
> the use of "explicit language" (the reason given for not publishing the 
> translation). This was an automatic response that Edeosenfed received when he 
> pushed the publish button after finishing hus translation in Italian. We 
> tried to add more infornation on lesbian women in the article, but adding 
> info on trans women history (and trans men) was a challenge and still is : it 
> was hard to find sources of the historical context. We still have to work on 
> that. 
> 
> Kind regards,
> Nattes à chat
> 
>> Le 30 juin 2017 à 00:54, Neotarf  a écrit :
>> 
>> Looking at the discussion, it seems they are using the wrong notability 
>> guideline, the first one, WP:COMPANY, which would be used for restaurants or 
>> garage bands, instead of WP:NONPROFIT, further down the page. The page is 
>> rather confusing in the way it is organized, but I don't see any other 
>> category that could be used for political parties or organizations in the 
>> public interest. 
>> 
>> According to WP:NONPROFIT: 
>> 
>> Non-commercial organizations
>> 
>> Organizations are usually notable if they meet both of the following 
>> standards:
>> 
>> The scope of their activities is national or international in scale
>> The organization has received significant coverage in multiple reliable 
>> sources that are independent of the organization.
>> So I have compiled a list of the Farsi-language sources at 
>> https://neotarf.wordpress.com/2017/06/29/sources-for-pakistan-women-muslim-league/
>> 
>> A total of 12 newspapers have published articles about Pakistan Women Muslim 
>> League, including an interview with the founder. There are 11 articles from 
>> Peshawar (local) sources, 2 from unidentified sources, and 3 articles from 
>> sources from the capital in Islamabad, showing national scope, as does the 
>> fact that the party is registered nationally.  
>> 
>> If there is not a consensus for an article, perhaps the information could be 
>> added to another article, I see there is 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Pakistan#Minor_or_regional_parties
>>  although I suppose you would have to nominate all the other small parties 
>> for deletion as well, or incorporate them into the list.
>> 
>> I really have to wonder if this is a good use of our time.  While I 
>> appreciate Ryan's efforts in bringing this issue here, it took me literally 
>> hours to identify these articles to establish notability, on a topic that 
>> should already be obviously notable.  Shouldn't anyone be able to go to 
>> Wikipedia to find information about another country's political system.
>> 
>> On a similar note, I see The Womanity Foundation nominated for deletion and 
>> the person who started the article referred to as "an SPA".  Welcome to 
>> Wikipedia. A quick google shows a huge number of reliable sources. 
>> https://www.google.com/search?q=The+Womanity+Foundation=utf-8=utf-8#q=The+Womanity+Foundation=nws
>>  Aren't they supposed to check that before they nominate it for deletion?  
>> Can the new community culture group help with that? 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 11:43 PM, Neotarf  wrote:
>>> Here is the archived article: "Women’s political party launched Pakistan 
>>> Women Muslim League (PWML)" January 6, 2014 http://archive.is/V3Vpk
>>> 
>>> Party registered with PEC Pakistan Election Commission: 
>>> 

Re: [Gendergap] article for first women's political party in Pakistan is about to be deleted

2017-06-29 Thread Natacha Rault
Hi There, I happen to live in Geneva and coukd provide photos for the Womanity 
Foundation. I know somebody working there.

I am also interested in translating the article in French. Will do, shortly.

Thanks for the notice. We experiment article deletion quite often too on the 
French wki, but have bern able to discuss within the project les  sans pages 
and help people with such issues, although we also have been accused of voting 
together and therefore influencing results. We have developped - I think - a 
nice atmosphere on this project and we are not tackling women bios only. 

On the other hand, one of our group was at last able to translate "LGBT history 
in Switzerland" in Italian, but it was first not possible because of the use of 
"explicit language" (the reason given for not publishing the translation). This 
was an automatic response that Edeosenfed received when he pushed the publish 
button after finishing hus translation in Italian. We tried to add more 
infornation on lesbian women in the article, but adding info on trans women 
history (and trans men) was a challenge and still is : it was hard to find 
sources of the historical context. We still have to work on that. 

Kind regards,
Nattes à chat

> Le 30 juin 2017 à 00:54, Neotarf  a écrit :
> 
> Looking at the discussion, it seems they are using the wrong notability 
> guideline, the first one, WP:COMPANY, which would be used for restaurants or 
> garage bands, instead of WP:NONPROFIT, further down the page. The page is 
> rather confusing in the way it is organized, but I don't see any other 
> category that could be used for political parties or organizations in the 
> public interest. 
> 
> According to WP:NONPROFIT: 
> 
> Non-commercial organizations
> 
> Organizations are usually notable if they meet both of the following 
> standards:
> 
> The scope of their activities is national or international in scale
> The organization has received significant coverage in multiple reliable 
> sources that are independent of the organization.
> So I have compiled a list of the Farsi-language sources at 
> https://neotarf.wordpress.com/2017/06/29/sources-for-pakistan-women-muslim-league/
> 
> A total of 12 newspapers have published articles about Pakistan Women Muslim 
> League, including an interview with the founder. There are 11 articles from 
> Peshawar (local) sources, 2 from unidentified sources, and 3 articles from 
> sources from the capital in Islamabad, showing national scope, as does the 
> fact that the party is registered nationally.  
> 
> If there is not a consensus for an article, perhaps the information could be 
> added to another article, I see there is 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Pakistan#Minor_or_regional_parties
>  although I suppose you would have to nominate all the other small parties 
> for deletion as well, or incorporate them into the list.
> 
> I really have to wonder if this is a good use of our time.  While I 
> appreciate Ryan's efforts in bringing this issue here, it took me literally 
> hours to identify these articles to establish notability, on a topic that 
> should already be obviously notable.  Shouldn't anyone be able to go to 
> Wikipedia to find information about another country's political system.
> 
> On a similar note, I see The Womanity Foundation nominated for deletion and 
> the person who started the article referred to as "an SPA".  Welcome to 
> Wikipedia. A quick google shows a huge number of reliable sources. 
> https://www.google.com/search?q=The+Womanity+Foundation=utf-8=utf-8#q=The+Womanity+Foundation=nws
>  Aren't they supposed to check that before they nominate it for deletion?  
> Can the new community culture group help with that? 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 11:43 PM, Neotarf  wrote:
>> Here is the archived article: "Women’s political party launched Pakistan 
>> Women Muslim League (PWML)" January 6, 2014 http://archive.is/V3Vpk
>> 
>> Party registered with PEC Pakistan Election Commission: 
>> https://books.google.com/books?id=RROXCwAAQBAJ=PA280=Pakistan+Women+Muslim+League,+Rubina+Shaheen=en=X=0ahUKEwicvJSP19zUAhWFOz4KHQK6BMAQ6AEIKDAA#v=onepage=Pakistan%20Women%20Muslim%20League%2C%20Rubina%20Shaheen=false
>> 
>> Cabinet list and photo of oath-taking ceremony 
>> http://pwml.pk/index.php/cabinets/188-oath-taking-cermony
>> 
>> Official website (English and Urdu): http://pwml.pk/ 
>> 
>> See also Maimoonah Khan https://www.facebook.com/pwml.islamabad/ and Urdu 
>> https://www.facebook.com/pwmlp, FB profile: 
>> https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100012757092035=ts There seem 
>> to be new internal elections underway by email starting 3 days ago.
>> 
>> Twitter https://twitter.com/chrpersonpwml?lang=en
>> 
>> YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCLP3T3yn95nLlP1DLY4LBQ 
>> Another Youtube Rubina Shaheen speaking in Peshawar 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X1eatiEeeo
>> 
>> Rubina 

Re: [Gendergap] article for first women's political party in Pakistan is about to be deleted

2017-06-29 Thread Neotarf
Now this is strange.  The person who created The Womanity Foundation back
in October also created the article Yann Borgstedt
 which is apparently the guy
who started the organization. The article passed a review by Articles for
Creation back in 2011, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Yann_Borgstedt
but has just been nominated for deletion.

On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Neotarf  wrote:

> Looking at the discussion, it seems they are using the wrong notability
> guideline, the first one, WP:COMPANY, which would be used for restaurants
> or garage bands, instead of WP:NONPROFIT
> ,
> further down the page. The page is rather confusing in the way it is
> organized, but I don't see any other category that could be used for
> political parties or organizations in the public interest.
>
> According to WP:NONPROFIT:
>
> *Non-commercial organizations*
>
> Organizations are usually notable if they meet *both* of the following
> standards:
>
>- The scope of their activities is national or international in scale
>- The organization has received significant coverage in multiple
>reliable sources that are independent of the organization.
>
> So I have compiled a list of the Farsi-language sources at
> https://neotarf.wordpress.com/2017/06/29/sources-for-
> pakistan-women-muslim-league/
>
> A total of 12 newspapers have published articles about Pakistan Women
> Muslim League, including an interview with the founder. There are 11
> articles from Peshawar (local) sources, 2 from unidentified sources, and 3
> articles from sources from the capital in Islamabad, showing national
> scope, as does the fact that the party is registered nationally.
>
> If there is not a consensus for an article, perhaps the information could
> be added to another article, I see there is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
> List_of_political_parties_in_Pakistan#Minor_or_regional_parties although
> I suppose you would have to nominate all the other small parties for
> deletion as well, or incorporate them into the list.
>
> I really have to wonder if this is a good use of our time.  While I
> appreciate Ryan's efforts in bringing this issue here, it took me literally
> hours to identify these articles to establish notability, on a topic that
> should already be obviously notable.  Shouldn't anyone be able to go to
> Wikipedia to find information about another country's political system.
>
> On a similar note, I see The Womanity Foundation
>  nominated for
> deletion and the person who started the article referred to as "an SPA".
> Welcome to Wikipedia. A quick google shows a huge number of reliable
> sources. https://www.google.com/search?q=The+Womanity+Foundation=
> utf-8=utf-8#q=The+Womanity+Foundation=nws Aren't they supposed to
> check that before they nominate it for deletion?  Can the new community
> culture group help with that?
>
> On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 11:43 PM, Neotarf  wrote:
>
>> Here is the archived article: "Women’s political party launched Pakistan
>> Women Muslim League (PWML)" January 6, 2014 http://archive.is/V3Vpk
>>
>> Party registered with PEC Pakistan Election Commission:
>> https://books.google.com/books?id=RROXCwAAQBAJ=PA280=
>> Pakistan+Women+Muslim+League,+Rubina+Shaheen=en=X=
>> 0ahUKEwicvJSP19zUAhWFOz4KHQK6BMAQ6AEIKDAA#v=onepage=Pakist
>> an%20Women%20Muslim%20League%2C%20Rubina%20Shaheen=false
>>
>> Cabinet list and photo of oath-taking ceremony
>> http://pwml.pk/index.php/cabinets/188-oath-taking-cermony
>>
>> Official website (English and Urdu): http://pwml.pk/
>>
>> See also Maimoonah Khan https://www.facebook.com/pwml.islamabad/ and
>> Urdu https://www.facebook.com/pwmlp, FB profile:
>> https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100012757092035=ts There
>> seem to be new internal elections underway by email starting 3 days ago.
>>
>> Twitter https://twitter.com/chrpersonpwml?lang=en
>>
>> YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCLP3T3yn95nLlP1DLY4LBQ
>> Another Youtube Rubina Shaheen speaking in Peshawar
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X1eatiEeeo
>>
>> Rubina Shaheen introduces herself as primary school teacher
>> https://www.worldpulse.com/en/community/users/rubina-shaheen#stories
>>
>> Linked in: https://pk.linkedin.com/in/rubina-shaheen-22a252100
>>
>> There is also a Rubina Shaheen Wattoo, daughter of Manzoor Wattoo,
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manzoor_Wattoo who seems to have won some
>> elections, http://www.pap.gov.pk/index.php/members/profile/en/19/647 and
>> may be notable, but by the photographs this does not appear to be the same
>> person. Disambig page?
>>
>> There was a Rubina/Robina Shaheen who ran in the 2013 election for PK-5
>> Peshawar KPK Assembly seat, but the party affiliation (PML-Q) (probably The
>> Pakistan 

Re: [Gendergap] article for first women's political party in Pakistan is about to be deleted

2017-06-29 Thread Neotarf
Looking at the discussion, it seems they are using the wrong notability
guideline, the first one, WP:COMPANY, which would be used for restaurants
or garage bands, instead of WP:NONPROFIT
,
further down the page. The page is rather confusing in the way it is
organized, but I don't see any other category that could be used for
political parties or organizations in the public interest.

According to WP:NONPROFIT:

*Non-commercial organizations*

Organizations are usually notable if they meet *both* of the following
standards:

   - The scope of their activities is national or international in scale
   - The organization has received significant coverage in multiple
   reliable sources that are independent of the organization.

So I have compiled a list of the Farsi-language sources at
https://neotarf.wordpress.com/2017/06/29/sources-for-pakistan-women-muslim-league/

A total of 12 newspapers have published articles about Pakistan Women
Muslim League, including an interview with the founder. There are 11
articles from Peshawar (local) sources, 2 from unidentified sources, and 3
articles from sources from the capital in Islamabad, showing national
scope, as does the fact that the party is registered nationally.

If there is not a consensus for an article, perhaps the information could
be added to another article, I see there is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Pakistan#Minor_or_regional_parties
although I suppose you would have to nominate all the other small parties
for deletion as well, or incorporate them into the list.

I really have to wonder if this is a good use of our time.  While I
appreciate Ryan's efforts in bringing this issue here, it took me literally
hours to identify these articles to establish notability, on a topic that
should already be obviously notable.  Shouldn't anyone be able to go to
Wikipedia to find information about another country's political system.

On a similar note, I see The Womanity Foundation
 nominated for
deletion and the person who started the article referred to as "an SPA".
Welcome to Wikipedia. A quick google shows a huge number of reliable
sources.
https://www.google.com/search?q=The+Womanity+Foundation=utf-8=utf-8#q=The+Womanity+Foundation=nws
Aren't they supposed to check that before they nominate it for deletion?
Can the new community culture group help with that?

On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 11:43 PM, Neotarf  wrote:

> Here is the archived article: "Women’s political party launched Pakistan
> Women Muslim League (PWML)" January 6, 2014 http://archive.is/V3Vpk
>
> Party registered with PEC Pakistan Election Commission:
> https://books.google.com/books?id=RROXCwAAQBAJ=PA280=Pakistan+Women+
> Muslim+League,+Rubina+Shaheen=en=X=
> 0ahUKEwicvJSP19zUAhWFOz4KHQK6BMAQ6AEIKDAA#v=onepage=
> Pakistan%20Women%20Muslim%20League%2C%20Rubina%20Shaheen=false
>
> Cabinet list and photo of oath-taking ceremony http://pwml.pk/index.php/
> cabinets/188-oath-taking-cermony
>
> Official website (English and Urdu): http://pwml.pk/
>
> See also Maimoonah Khan https://www.facebook.com/pwml.islamabad/ and Urdu
> https://www.facebook.com/pwmlp, FB profile: https://www.facebook.com/
> profile.php?id=100012757092035=ts There seem to be new internal
> elections underway by email starting 3 days ago.
>
> Twitter https://twitter.com/chrpersonpwml?lang=en
>
> YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCLP3T3yn95nLlP1DLY4LBQ
> Another Youtube Rubina Shaheen speaking in Peshawar
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X1eatiEeeo
>
> Rubina Shaheen introduces herself as primary school teacher
> https://www.worldpulse.com/en/community/users/rubina-shaheen#stories
>
> Linked in: https://pk.linkedin.com/in/rubina-shaheen-22a252100
>
> There is also a Rubina Shaheen Wattoo, daughter of Manzoor Wattoo,
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manzoor_Wattoo who seems to have won some
> elections, http://www.pap.gov.pk/index.php/members/profile/en/19/647 and
> may be notable, but by the photographs this does not appear to be the same
> person. Disambig page?
>
> There was a Rubina/Robina Shaheen who ran in the 2013 election for PK-5
> Peshawar KPK Assembly seat, but the party affiliation (PML-Q) (probably The
> Pakistan Muslim League or Quaid e Azam Group, Urdu: پاکستان مسلم لیگ ق‎)
> does not look right (s/b PWML), so probably not the same one.
> https://www.thenews.com.pk/archive/amp/432028-all-women-
> candidates-from-kp-lost-election-by-huge-marginshttp:/
> /www.electionpakistani.com/ge2013/pk/PK-5.htm
>
> There was a fair amount of coverage of PWML in Urdu sources here, from
> their official website, unfortunately these are photos of newspaper
> clippings and not digitized. http://pwml.pk/index.php/home-
> en/10-icetheme/features/245-news-media
>
> This may be the only women's party in the world, as 

Re: [Gendergap] article for first women's political party in Pakistan is about to be deleted

2017-06-26 Thread Neotarf
Here is the archived article: "Women’s political party launched Pakistan
Women Muslim League (PWML)" January 6, 2014 http://archive.is/V3Vpk

Party registered with PEC Pakistan Election Commission:
https://books.google.com/books?id=RROXCwAAQBAJ=PA280=Pakistan+Women+Muslim+League,+Rubina+Shaheen=en=X=0ahUKEwicvJSP19zUAhWFOz4KHQK6BMAQ6AEIKDAA#v=onepage=Pakistan%20Women%20Muslim%20League%2C%20Rubina%20Shaheen=false

Cabinet list and photo of oath-taking ceremony
http://pwml.pk/index.php/cabinets/188-oath-taking-cermony

Official website (English and Urdu): http://pwml.pk/

See also Maimoonah Khan https://www.facebook.com/pwml.islamabad/ and Urdu
https://www.facebook.com/pwmlp, FB profile:
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100012757092035=ts There seem
to be new internal elections underway by email starting 3 days ago.

Twitter https://twitter.com/chrpersonpwml?lang=en

YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCLP3T3yn95nLlP1DLY4LBQ
Another Youtube Rubina Shaheen speaking in Peshawar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X1eatiEeeo

Rubina Shaheen introduces herself as primary school teacher
https://www.worldpulse.com/en/community/users/rubina-shaheen#stories

Linked in: https://pk.linkedin.com/in/rubina-shaheen-22a252100

There is also a Rubina Shaheen Wattoo, daughter of Manzoor Wattoo,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manzoor_Wattoo who seems to have won some
elections, http://www.pap.gov.pk/index.php/members/profile/en/19/647 and
may be notable, but by the photographs this does not appear to be the same
person. Disambig page?

There was a Rubina/Robina Shaheen who ran in the 2013 election for PK-5
Peshawar KPK Assembly seat, but the party affiliation (PML-Q) (probably The
Pakistan Muslim League or Quaid e Azam Group, Urdu: پاکستان مسلم لیگ ق‎)
does not look right (s/b PWML), so probably not the same one.
https://www.thenews.com.pk/archive/amp/432028-all-women-candidates-from-kp-lost-election-by-huge-marginshttp://www.electionpakistani.com/ge2013/pk/PK-5.htm

There was a fair amount of coverage of PWML in Urdu sources here, from
their official website, unfortunately these are photos of newspaper
clippings and not digitized.
http://pwml.pk/index.php/home-en/10-icetheme/features/245-news-media

This may be the only women's party in the world, as Pakistan has seats
reserved for women (although it is not the only country to do this)
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2013/may/09/pakistan-female-election-candidates-confidence



On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 7:00 PM, Ryan Kaldari 
wrote:

> The article for the first women's political party in Pakistan is about to
> be deleted, unless someone can find some sources for it.[1][2]
> Urdu-language speakers would be especially useful for this effort.
>
> 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_Women_Muslim_League
> 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_
> deletion/Pakistan_Women_Muslim_League
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[Gendergap] article for first women's political party in Pakistan is about to be deleted

2017-06-26 Thread Ryan Kaldari
The article for the first women's political party in Pakistan is about to
be deleted, unless someone can find some sources for it.[1][2]
Urdu-language speakers would be especially useful for this effort.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_Women_Muslim_League
2.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Pakistan_Women_Muslim_League
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