Re: [Gendergap] Help: Research on whether we have made any difference?
I do not think it will be possible to accurately assess any impact of specific actions, for multiple reasons. The most relevant one, however, is the fact that the WMF itself has not done any broad-scale editor surveys in a very long time, nor have individual communities to the best of my knowledge. Risker/Anne On 26 February 2014 05:37, Lennart Guldbrandsson l_guldbrands...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello, I am writing a short (1500 word) text for the journal of current cultural research, Culture Unbound (http://www.cultureunbound.ep.liu.se/index.html), to be published in April. The topic touches quite heavily on the gendergap issue. I have tried to find any numbers on whether the initiatives - editathons, Teahouse, etc - have made any dent in the numbers. Are there any such numbers or have I simply fantasized about it? Since they want the text soon, please respond soon. Any assistance is greatly appreciated. Best wishes, Lennart Guldbrandsson 070 - 207 80 05 http://www.elementx.se - arbete http://www.mrchapel.wordpress.com - personlig blogg Presentation http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anv%c3%83%c2%a4ndare:Hannibal @aliasHannibal http://twitter.com/AliasHannibal - på Twitter *Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till **världens samlade kunskap*http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Huvudsida*. Det är vårt mål.* Jimmy Wales ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Help: Research on whether we have made any difference?
Lennart, You should look at the Education Program, which after the first year appeared to have a strong impact (i.e. more participation from women than men). It's also been my experience (anecdotal but strong) that the Writing Wikipedia Articles course I teach has attracted and retained more women than men. (This would not impact the general numbers in a signiificant way, but might offer insights into what kinds of activity *would* impact the numbers.) Pete [[User:Peteforsyth]] www.wikistrategies.net On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 5:37 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: I do not think it will be possible to accurately assess any impact of specific actions, for multiple reasons. The most relevant one, however, is the fact that the WMF itself has not done any broad-scale editor surveys in a very long time, nor have individual communities to the best of my knowledge. Risker/Anne On 26 February 2014 05:37, Lennart Guldbrandsson l_guldbrands...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello, I am writing a short (1500 word) text for the journal of current cultural research, Culture Unbound (http://www.cultureunbound.ep.liu.se/index.html), to be published in April. The topic touches quite heavily on the gendergap issue. I have tried to find any numbers on whether the initiatives - editathons, Teahouse, etc - have made any dent in the numbers. Are there any such numbers or have I simply fantasized about it? Since they want the text soon, please respond soon. Any assistance is greatly appreciated. Best wishes, Lennart Guldbrandsson 070 - 207 80 05 http://www.elementx.se - arbete http://www.mrchapel.wordpress.com - personlig blogg Presentation http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anv%c3%83%c2%a4ndare:Hannibal @aliasHannibal http://twitter.com/AliasHannibal - på Twitter *Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till **världens samlade kunskap*http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Huvudsida*. Det är vårt mål.* Jimmy Wales ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Help: Research on whether we have made any difference?
Hello, Thanks for the reply, Anne. So, perhaps the only measure available, is the number from the Teahouse and the individual editathons. I'll look into those, for now. Best wishes, Lennart Guldbrandsson 070 - 207 80 05 http://www.elementx.se - arbete http://www.mrchapel.wordpress.com - personlig blogg Presentation @aliasHannibal - på Twitter Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till världens samlade kunskap. Det är vårt mål. Jimmy Wales Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 08:37:05 -0500 From: risker...@gmail.com To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Help: Research on whether we have made any difference? I do not think it will be possible to accurately assess any impact of specific actions, for multiple reasons. The most relevant one, however, is the fact that the WMF itself has not done any broad-scale editor surveys in a very long time, nor have individual communities to the best of my knowledge. Risker/Anne On 26 February 2014 05:37, Lennart Guldbrandsson l_guldbrands...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello, I am writing a short (1500 word) text for the journal of current cultural research, Culture Unbound (http://www.cultureunbound.ep.liu.se/index.html), to be published in April. The topic touches quite heavily on the gendergap issue. I have tried to find any numbers on whether the initiatives - editathons, Teahouse, etc - have made any dent in the numbers. Are there any such numbers or have I simply fantasized about it? Since they want the text soon, please respond soon. Any assistance is greatly appreciated. Best wishes, Lennart Guldbrandsson 070 - 207 80 05 http://www.elementx.se - arbete http://www.mrchapel.wordpress.com - personlig blogg Presentation @aliasHannibal - på Twitter Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till världens samlade kunskap. Det är vårt mål. Jimmy Wales ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Help: Research on whether we have made any difference?
Thank you, Pete, I will take a look at those also. They seem to concur with other studies of percentage of the sexes studying. Best wishes, Lennart Guldbrandsson 070 - 207 80 05 http://www.elementx.se - arbete http://www.mrchapel.wordpress.com - personlig blogg Presentation @aliasHannibal - på Twitter Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till världens samlade kunskap. Det är vårt mål. Jimmy Wales Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 05:43:02 -0800 From: petefors...@gmail.com To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Help: Research on whether we have made any difference? Lennart, You should look at the Education Program, which after the first year appeared to have a strong impact (i.e. more participation from women than men). It's also been my experience (anecdotal but strong) that the Writing Wikipedia Articles course I teach has attracted and retained more women than men. (This would not impact the general numbers in a signiificant way, but might offer insights into what kinds of activity *would* impact the numbers.) Pete [[User:Peteforsyth]] www.wikistrategies.net On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 5:37 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: I do not think it will be possible to accurately assess any impact of specific actions, for multiple reasons. The most relevant one, however, is the fact that the WMF itself has not done any broad-scale editor surveys in a very long time, nor have individual communities to the best of my knowledge. Risker/Anne On 26 February 2014 05:37, Lennart Guldbrandsson l_guldbrands...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello, I am writing a short (1500 word) text for the journal of current cultural research, Culture Unbound (http://www.cultureunbound.ep.liu.se/index.html), to be published in April. The topic touches quite heavily on the gendergap issue. I have tried to find any numbers on whether the initiatives - editathons, Teahouse, etc - have made any dent in the numbers. Are there any such numbers or have I simply fantasized about it? Since they want the text soon, please respond soon. Any assistance is greatly appreciated. Best wishes, Lennart Guldbrandsson 070 - 207 80 05 http://www.elementx.se - arbete http://www.mrchapel.wordpress.com - personlig blogg Presentation @aliasHannibal - på Twitter Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till världens samlade kunskap. Det är vårt mål. Jimmy Wales ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Help: Research on whether we have made any difference?
Yes, the Teahouse project has some data to back it up. You can talk to Jonathan Morgan, who co-build the space and was the lead in pulling data if you need to: jmor...@wikimedia.org Laura Hale has been doing some interesting research about the top contributors to English Wikipedia and who write about women's subjects. It's rather depressing, of course. la...@fanhistory.com The research work the Program Evaluation and Design team did about edit-a-thons and workshops shows little to no retention, which is no surprise, really. But, that was not gender specific. My own personal research showed the same, with womencentric events. But, that doesn't mean a dent hasn't been made. Yes, the Education program happens to have a lot of women who contribute, especially successes in Arabic Wikipedia, but, outside of that specific program, the goal isn't to retain, it's to improve content. I suggest people look at the improvement of women centric content versus the retention of women editors. The nut still hasn't been cracked (puns so not intended) on user retention through events, etc. We did discover that a lot of content gets created via edit-a-thons and such events, versus the amount of people who stay on as editors. Don't rule out press and the attention the movement has received on the subject. If you look at the partnerships - hell, the UK government basically said uh hello, we need more women in science on Wikipedia, last week. Awareness is just one component of making a difference. -Sarah On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:00 AM, Lennart Guldbrandsson l_guldbrands...@hotmail.com wrote: Thank you, Pete, I will take a look at those also. They seem to concur with other studies of percentage of the sexes studying. Best wishes, Lennart Guldbrandsson 070 - 207 80 05 http://www.elementx.se - arbete http://www.mrchapel.wordpress.com - personlig blogg Presentation http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anv%c3%83%c2%a4ndare:Hannibal @aliasHannibal http://twitter.com/AliasHannibal - på Twitter *Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till **världens samlade kunskap*http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Huvudsida*. Det är vårt mål.* Jimmy Wales -- Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 05:43:02 -0800 From: petefors...@gmail.com To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Help: Research on whether we have made any difference? Lennart, You should look at the Education Program, which after the first year appeared to have a strong impact (i.e. more participation from women than men). It's also been my experience (anecdotal but strong) that the Writing Wikipedia Articles course I teach has attracted and retained more women than men. (This would not impact the general numbers in a signiificant way, but might offer insights into what kinds of activity *would* impact the numbers.) Pete [[User:Peteforsyth]] www.wikistrategies.net On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 5:37 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: I do not think it will be possible to accurately assess any impact of specific actions, for multiple reasons. The most relevant one, however, is the fact that the WMF itself has not done any broad-scale editor surveys in a very long time, nor have individual communities to the best of my knowledge. Risker/Anne On 26 February 2014 05:37, Lennart Guldbrandsson l_guldbrands...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello, I am writing a short (1500 word) text for the journal of current cultural research, Culture Unbound (http://www.cultureunbound.ep.liu.se/index.html), to be published in April. The topic touches quite heavily on the gendergap issue. I have tried to find any numbers on whether the initiatives - editathons, Teahouse, etc - have made any dent in the numbers. Are there any such numbers or have I simply fantasized about it? Since they want the text soon, please respond soon. Any assistance is greatly appreciated. Best wishes, Lennart Guldbrandsson 070 - 207 80 05 http://www.elementx.se - arbete http://www.mrchapel.wordpress.com - personlig blogg Presentation http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anv%c3%83%c2%a4ndare:Hannibal @aliasHannibal http://twitter.com/AliasHannibal - på Twitter *Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till **världens samlade kunskap*http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Huvudsida*. Det är vårt mål.* Jimmy Wales ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list
Re: [Gendergap] Help: Research on whether we have made any difference?
Hi, Laura has posted about her informal research at http://wikinewsreporter.wordpress.com/2014/02/10/the-role-of-english-wikipedias-top-content-creators-in-perpetuating-gender-bias/. I'm currently working on a largely qualitative study w/r/t women and English language Wikipedia, which I'll make available as soon as it's finished. (See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Women_and_Wikipedia.) Lennart-I'd love to read your paper and include it as a source. Best, Amanda From: gendergap-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:gendergap-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Lika Tika Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:38 AM To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Help: Research on whether we have made any difference? I'd love to see the final paper. Does Laura Hale have any published results available? On Feb 26, 2014 12:26 PM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.commailto:jane...@gmail.com wrote: Lennart, That is interesting, because I thought there were at least a few editor surveys to compare results, but apparently not. The only thing I could find was a page on meta that points to the 2011 survey here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Editor_Survey The Dutch Wikimedia chapter subcontracted a survey last year but those results can be used against the English Wikipedia one I don't think. It's too bad that conducting surveys is so expensive, because this could be a useful tool for all sorts of key performance indicators. Good luck, and I am looking forward to whatever you come up with. Jane 2014-02-26 17:11 GMT+01:00, Lennart Guldbrandsson l_guldbrands...@hotmail.commailto:l_guldbrands...@hotmail.com: Totally agree, Sarah, with your final point, and thanks for all the other tips. It seems my initial point, which can be stated as little effect so far stands, but needs to be qualified somewhat. I'll get right on it, and give you guys and gals a link when the whole text is published. Thanks, everybody for your help. Best wishes, Lennart Guldbrandsson 070 - 207 80 05 http://www.elementx.se - arbete http://www.mrchapel.wordpress.com - personlig blogg Presentation @aliasHannibal - på Twitter Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till världens samlade kunskap. Det är vårt mål. Jimmy Wales Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 08:06:16 -0800 From: sarah.stie...@gmail.commailto:sarah.stie...@gmail.com To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Help: Research on whether we have made any difference? Yes, the Teahouse project has some data to back it up. You can talk to Jonathan Morgan, who co-build the space and was the lead in pulling data if you need to: jmor...@wikimedia.orgmailto:jmor...@wikimedia.org Laura Hale has been doing some interesting research about the top contributors to English Wikipedia and who write about women's subjects. It's rather depressing, of course. la...@fanhistory.commailto:la...@fanhistory.com The research work the Program Evaluation and Design team did about edit-a-thons and workshops shows little to no retention, which is no surprise, really. But, that was not gender specific. My own personal research showed the same, with womencentric events. But, that doesn't mean a dent hasn't been made. Yes, the Education program happens to have a lot of women who contribute, especially successes in Arabic Wikipedia, but, outside of that specific program, the goal isn't to retain, it's to improve content. I suggest people look at the improvement of women centric content versus the retention of women editors. The nut still hasn't been cracked (puns so not intended) on user retention through events, etc. We did discover that a lot of content gets created via edit-a-thons and such events, versus the amount of people who stay on as editors. Don't rule out press and the attention the movement has received on the subject. If you look at the partnerships - hell, the UK government basically said uh hello, we need more women in science on Wikipedia, last week. Awareness is just one component of making a difference. -Sarah On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:00 AM, Lennart Guldbrandsson l_guldbrands...@hotmail.commailto:l_guldbrands...@hotmail.com wrote: Thank you, Pete, I will take a look at those also. They seem to concur with other studies of percentage of the sexes studying. Best wishes, Lennart Guldbrandsson 070 - 207 80 05 http://www.elementx.se - arbete http://www.mrchapel.wordpress.com - personlig blogg Presentation @aliasHannibal - på Twitter Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till världens samlade kunskap. Det är vårt mål. Jimmy Wales Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 05:43:02 -0800 From: petefors...@gmail.commailto:petefors...@gmail.com To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Help: Research
Re: [Gendergap] Help: Research on whether we have made any difference?
Hi all, Thanks to and Sarah for pointing out the success we've seen in the Wikipedia Education Program in the Arab world with female participation. I just wanted to share some numbers and also mention retention, which has some good numbers as well even if that's not the program's main goal. The current term is winding down in Egypt this week, and we've seen especially high female participation yet again with 88% female and 12% male participants (108 total students). In Jordan this term we've had 70% female participation and 30% male (99 total students) -- significantly more female participants in both cases. The interesting thing to me is that in Egypt our students are mostly part of the foreign language faculty, whereas our Jordan program runs almost exclusively in IT classes and faculties (for now), which may be part of why the numbers vary. While the explicit focus of the WEP has always been content, we have seen some notable retention numbers from the program's alumni in the region. Looking at students from all previous terms and excluding the latest one (spring 2012, fall 2012 and spring 2013, 464 students), 5.8% of these students made at least one edit this month. More notably, 5.2% qualified as active editors and (5+ edits) 1.9% qualified as very active editors (100+ edits) this month so far. This is all the more notable when you look at the monthly stats for the Arabic Wikipedia with 637 active editors and 97 active editors in December (last month available from stats.wikimedia.org). I hope to write a blog about this soon which should give more context to the gender and retention numbers we're seeing in the WEP in the Arab world. Best, Tighe On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Amanda Menking amenk...@uw.edu wrote: Hi, Laura has posted about her informal research at http://wikinewsreporter.wordpress.com/2014/02/10/the-role-of-english-wikipedias-top-content-creators-in-perpetuating-gender-bias/ . I'm currently working on a largely qualitative study w/r/t women and English language Wikipedia, which I'll make available as soon as it's finished. (See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Women_and_Wikipedia.) Lennart--I'd love to read your paper and include it as a source. Best, Amanda *From:* gendergap-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: gendergap-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Lika Tika *Sent:* Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:38 AM *To:* Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects *Subject:* Re: [Gendergap] Help: Research on whether we have made any difference? I'd love to see the final paper. Does Laura Hale have any published results available? On Feb 26, 2014 12:26 PM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: Lennart, That is interesting, because I thought there were at least a few editor surveys to compare results, but apparently not. The only thing I could find was a page on meta that points to the 2011 survey here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Editor_Survey The Dutch Wikimedia chapter subcontracted a survey last year but those results can be used against the English Wikipedia one I don't think. It's too bad that conducting surveys is so expensive, because this could be a useful tool for all sorts of key performance indicators. Good luck, and I am looking forward to whatever you come up with. Jane 2014-02-26 17:11 GMT+01:00, Lennart Guldbrandsson l_guldbrands...@hotmail.com: Totally agree, Sarah, with your final point, and thanks for all the other tips. It seems my initial point, which can be stated as little effect so far stands, but needs to be qualified somewhat. I'll get right on it, and give you guys and gals a link when the whole text is published. Thanks, everybody for your help. Best wishes, Lennart Guldbrandsson 070 - 207 80 05 http://www.elementx.se - arbete http://www.mrchapel.wordpress.com - personlig blogg Presentation @aliasHannibal - på Twitter Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till världens samlade kunskap. Det är vårt mål. Jimmy Wales Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 08:06:16 -0800 From: sarah.stie...@gmail.com To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Help: Research on whether we have made any difference? Yes, the Teahouse project has some data to back it up. You can talk to Jonathan Morgan, who co-build the space and was the lead in pulling data if you need to: jmor...@wikimedia.org Laura Hale has been doing some interesting research about the top contributors to English Wikipedia and who write about women's subjects. It's rather depressing, of course. la...@fanhistory.com The research work the Program Evaluation and Design team did about edit-a-thons and workshops shows little to no retention, which is no surprise, really. But, that was not gender specific. My own personal research showed the same, with womencentric events
Re: [Gendergap] Help: Research on whether we have made any difference?
Hi Lennart! Not addressing the question of whether we've made any difference... but if you're quoting numbers AFAIK the best research on the gender gap numbers is Mako Hill and Aaron Shaw, from last year: http://mako.cc/copyrighteous/the-wikipedia-gender-gap-revisited which tries to correct for the issues with opt-in surveys. Of course the overall point is, as Mako says, Overall, these results reinforce the basic substantive finding that women are vastly under-represented among Wikipedia editors. -- phoebe On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 2:37 AM, Lennart Guldbrandsson l_guldbrands...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello, I am writing a short (1500 word) text for the journal of current cultural research, Culture Unbound (http://www.cultureunbound.ep.liu.se/index.html), to be published in April. The topic touches quite heavily on the gendergap issue. I have tried to find any numbers on whether the initiatives - editathons, Teahouse, etc - have made any dent in the numbers. Are there any such numbers or have I simply fantasized about it? Since they want the text soon, please respond soon. Any assistance is greatly appreciated. Best wishes, Lennart Guldbrandsson 070 - 207 80 05 http://www.elementx.se - arbete http://www.mrchapel.wordpress.com - personlig blogg Presentation http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anv%c3%83%c2%a4ndare:Hannibal @aliasHannibal http://twitter.com/AliasHannibal - på Twitter *Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till **världens samlade kunskap*http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Huvudsida*. Det är vårt mål.* Jimmy Wales ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- * I use this address for lists; send personal messages to phoebe.ayers at gmail.com * ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Help: Research on whether we have made any difference?
Thanks, again! More links (Mako Hill and Aaron Shaw's text is already in there) and more thoughts. Beautiful! When I saw the number of new mails, I just had to laugh. It's so wonderful to be in this company. This made me want to improve the text even more :-) Best wishes, Lennart Guldbrandsson 070 - 207 80 05 http://www.elementx.se - arbete http://www.mrchapel.wordpress.com - personlig blogg Presentation @aliasHannibal - på Twitter Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till världens samlade kunskap. Det är vårt mål. Jimmy Wales Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 13:25:16 -0800 From: phoebe.w...@gmail.com To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org CC: susanpgard...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Help: Research on whether we have made any difference? Hi Lennart! Not addressing the question of whether we've made any difference... but if you're quoting numbers AFAIK the best research on the gender gap numbers is Mako Hill and Aaron Shaw, from last year: http://mako.cc/copyrighteous/the-wikipedia-gender-gap-revisited which tries to correct for the issues with opt-in surveys. Of course the overall point is, as Mako says, Overall, these results reinforce the basic substantive finding that women are vastly under-represented among Wikipedia editors. -- phoebe On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 2:37 AM, Lennart Guldbrandsson l_guldbrands...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello, I am writing a short (1500 word) text for the journal of current cultural research, Culture Unbound (http://www.cultureunbound.ep.liu.se/index.html), to be published in April. The topic touches quite heavily on the gendergap issue. I have tried to find any numbers on whether the initiatives - editathons, Teahouse, etc - have made any dent in the numbers. Are there any such numbers or have I simply fantasized about it? Since they want the text soon, please respond soon. Any assistance is greatly appreciated. Best wishes, Lennart Guldbrandsson 070 - 207 80 05 http://www.elementx.se - arbete http://www.mrchapel.wordpress.com - personlig blogg Presentation @aliasHannibal - på Twitter Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till världens samlade kunskap. Det är vårt mål. Jimmy Wales ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- * I use this address for lists; send personal messages to phoebe.ayers at gmail.com * ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
