Re: [GNC-dev] Develop support for Import/Export using .xbrl?
Brian Not that I'm an expert, but I figured I'd do your work for you and read over the XBRL wikipedia article. A few things pop out at me: 1) XBRL appears to be a framework for financial reports. There's a ton of discussion in the article about developing taxonomies and extensibility, but little detail on what the structures are or should be. This supports John's concern that there isn't *one* structure. 2) The primary use case presented in the article is for annual statements for SEC filings, again supporting John's question about who the primary audience is (big businesses) 3) Initial tests of the spec found a high level of inaccuracy in the uses by businesses, with a more recent analysis by Charles Hoffman in 2017 finding "just" 10% inaccuracies. Nevertheless, the EU established 2020 as a deadline for companies to add xbrl tags to their reports. I have no idea if they have, but is this something the small Gnucash developer pool should take on? I don't think so... David T. On Jan 27, 2024, 4:40 AM, at 4:40 AM, briancady413--- via gnucash-devel wrote: >I don't know these answers, but maybe they can be found >here:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XBRLhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XBRL_International > >Brian- > > > >On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 06:20:44 PM EST, John Ralls > wrote: > > > >> On Jan 26, 2024, at 12:42 PM, Frank H. Ellenberger > wrote: >> >> >> >> Am 25.01.24 um 19:59 schrieb John Ralls: >>> Not really, it looks like a big-business thing. >> OTOH I sem more and more governments requesting data for tex >declaration in xbrl format. >> Prehaps we should start with xbrl as a report format? >> > >Do these governments use the *same* XBRL format or does each country >have its own variant? Do they really apply to individuals and very >small businesses like the UK's MTD initiative? > >Next, are they F/LOSS friendly or do they, like the UK's MTD, require >the generating program to include some secret token? > >Regards, >John Ralls > > >___ >gnucash-devel mailing list >gnucash-devel@gnucash.org >https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] Develop support for Import/Export using .xbrl?
I don't know these answers, but maybe they can be found here:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XBRLhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XBRL_International Brian- On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 06:20:44 PM EST, John Ralls wrote: > On Jan 26, 2024, at 12:42 PM, Frank H. Ellenberger > wrote: > > > > Am 25.01.24 um 19:59 schrieb John Ralls: >> Not really, it looks like a big-business thing. > OTOH I sem more and more governments requesting data for tex declaration in > xbrl format. > Prehaps we should start with xbrl as a report format? > Do these governments use the *same* XBRL format or does each country have its own variant? Do they really apply to individuals and very small businesses like the UK's MTD initiative? Next, are they F/LOSS friendly or do they, like the UK's MTD, require the generating program to include some secret token? Regards, John Ralls ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] Develop support for Import/Export using .xbrl?
> On Jan 26, 2024, at 12:42 PM, Frank H. Ellenberger > wrote: > > > > Am 25.01.24 um 19:59 schrieb John Ralls: >> Not really, it looks like a big-business thing. > OTOH I sem more and more governments requesting data for tex declaration in > xbrl format. > Prehaps we should start with xbrl as a report format? > Do these governments use the *same* XBRL format or does each country have its own variant? Do they really apply to individuals and very small businesses like the UK's MTD initiative? Next, are they F/LOSS friendly or do they, like the UK's MTD, require the generating program to include some secret token? Regards, John Ralls ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] Develop support for Import/Export using .xbrl?
Am 25.01.24 um 19:59 schrieb John Ralls: Not really, it looks like a big-business thing. OTOH I sem more and more governments requesting data for tex declaration in xbrl format. Prehaps we should start with xbrl as a report format? Regards Frank ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] Develop support for Import/Export using .xbrl?
> On Jan 25, 2024, at 4:45 AM, briancady413--- via gnucash-devel > wrote: > > In a recent reddit post, someone lamented that GNUCash had no support for > im/exporting in .xbrl format, which they said was a ubiquitous global > standard format for books. > > XBRL - Wikipedia > > | > | > | > | | | > > | > > | > | > | | > XBRL - Wikipedia > > XBRL is a standards-based way to communicate and exchange business > information between business systems. These c... > | > > | > > | > Not really, it looks like a big-business thing. Regards, John Ralls ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel