Re: [GNC] Forgotten Splits
Phyllis, I have many questions about this issue. 1. Are you importing the transactions with all their splits defined, and splits within those imported transactions are not actually getting in to the GnuCash data file? 2. Are you importing a record from another account (for instance, your checking account, which receives a portion of your income) and it fails to register the other splits? 3. Are you using the auto complete feature to create these transactions, and the resulting transactions aren't getting your updated numbers? 4. Are you using some other mechanism to get this data into your file? For number 1, I'd be surprised that the importer would somehow lose some of the entries upon import--if you had a properly-defined transaction for import. However, I'd also be surprised to find a payroll provider that would present me with an importable income transaction. Correct me if I've misunderstood this. For number 2, if you're importing transactions from, say, your checking account provider, I wouldn't expect their records to include all the entries for the various deductions on a paycheck. Their records show one entry for the final amount that came in to them. You have to provide the other values yourself. For number 3, auto complete uses the latest version of a transaction as its template. If you have newer transactions in the register already (as hinted at by your comments), GnuCash is going to use the last one. So, if you change one of the earlier transactions to reflect your new values, GnuCash will continue to use the values in the latest transaction. Once you've updated the most recent copy, auto complete should take those values going forward. I've encountered this last one many times because I will use auto complete to enter paystubs quickly, and adjust the final deposit only. Months later, I'll go back and figure out why the amount changed, and discover that Payroll changed 3 or 4 different line amounts. That's an annoying circumstance. The options to fix this are: * correct the 3 or 4 entries on every paystub, or * delete all the erroneous transactions, re-enter the first one correctly, and then auto complete the rest correctly. I do the first if I've reconciled portions of the past transactions and the second if I haven't. If your answer is #4, please provide more info. David T. On Apr 7, 2024, 6:06 AM, at 6:06 AM, David Carlson wrote: >I think that the point Liz tried to make was a memorized transaction >can be >designed to be a prototype that can be customized each time by edits >that >are easy to make, >possibly more by deletions of unused splits than by adding splits. >Further, the memorized transactions can also be edited when they have >attributes that you don't expect to need again. > >I also use the auto-competion feature frequently to fill in lines >similar >to lines in previous transactions. > >I don't have a problem with GnuCash failing to remember changes when I >save >the file right away, or for certain user associated changes I need to >close >the program to make those changes stick. > >On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 9:39 PM David Carlson > >wrote: > >> I don't understand. Are you saying that splits are disappearing from >your >> paycheck or from the record in GnuCash? >> >> On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 7:27 PM Phyllis Bruce >wrote: >> >>> Your electric bill splits will change every month. Mine change once >a >>> year so no, though that’s a good idea. My main concern is that the >splits >>> disappear. Hence gnu is not remembering them. I would expect to >need to >>> change them once and be done for another year. >>> >>> > On Apr 6, 2024, at 7:11 PM, Liz wrote: >>> > >>> > On Sat, 6 Apr 2024 17:34:26 -0500 >>> > Phyllis Bruce wrote: >>> > >>> >> Just wanting to vent for a moment. I have my income with >multiple >>> >> splits in gnucash. Works fine for a while but when they change, >>> >> gnucash forgets the new splits and the old ones. I don't >typically >>> >> open the imported transactions but noticed some missing from >another >>> >> account and I have three months of splits to recreate. bummer! >>> > >>> > For my electricity bill I have a scheduled transaction with four >>> > splits. Each of the amounts is blank, and I fill them in once the >bill >>> > arrives. >>> > Would that be a useful way for you to account for your income >splits? >>> > >>> > Liz >>> > ___ >>> > gnucash-user mailing list >>> > gnucash-user@gnucash.org >>> > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >>> > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >>> > - >>> > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >>> > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >>> ___ >>> gnucash-user mailing list >>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >>> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >>>
Re: [GNC] Forgotten Splits
I think that the point Liz tried to make was a memorized transaction can be designed to be a prototype that can be customized each time by edits that are easy to make, possibly more by deletions of unused splits than by adding splits. Further, the memorized transactions can also be edited when they have attributes that you don't expect to need again. I also use the auto-competion feature frequently to fill in lines similar to lines in previous transactions. I don't have a problem with GnuCash failing to remember changes when I save the file right away, or for certain user associated changes I need to close the program to make those changes stick. On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 9:39 PM David Carlson wrote: > I don't understand. Are you saying that splits are disappearing from your > paycheck or from the record in GnuCash? > > On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 7:27 PM Phyllis Bruce wrote: > >> Your electric bill splits will change every month. Mine change once a >> year so no, though that’s a good idea. My main concern is that the splits >> disappear. Hence gnu is not remembering them. I would expect to need to >> change them once and be done for another year. >> >> > On Apr 6, 2024, at 7:11 PM, Liz wrote: >> > >> > On Sat, 6 Apr 2024 17:34:26 -0500 >> > Phyllis Bruce wrote: >> > >> >> Just wanting to vent for a moment. I have my income with multiple >> >> splits in gnucash. Works fine for a while but when they change, >> >> gnucash forgets the new splits and the old ones. I don't typically >> >> open the imported transactions but noticed some missing from another >> >> account and I have three months of splits to recreate. bummer! >> > >> > For my electricity bill I have a scheduled transaction with four >> > splits. Each of the amounts is blank, and I fill them in once the bill >> > arrives. >> > Would that be a useful way for you to account for your income splits? >> > >> > Liz >> > ___ >> > gnucash-user mailing list >> > gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> > - >> > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> > > > -- > David Carlson > -- David Carlson ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Forgotten Splits
I don't understand. Are you saying that splits are disappearing from your paycheck or from the record in GnuCash? On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 7:27 PM Phyllis Bruce wrote: > Your electric bill splits will change every month. Mine change once a > year so no, though that’s a good idea. My main concern is that the splits > disappear. Hence gnu is not remembering them. I would expect to need to > change them once and be done for another year. > > > On Apr 6, 2024, at 7:11 PM, Liz wrote: > > > > On Sat, 6 Apr 2024 17:34:26 -0500 > > Phyllis Bruce wrote: > > > >> Just wanting to vent for a moment. I have my income with multiple > >> splits in gnucash. Works fine for a while but when they change, > >> gnucash forgets the new splits and the old ones. I don't typically > >> open the imported transactions but noticed some missing from another > >> account and I have three months of splits to recreate. bummer! > > > > For my electricity bill I have a scheduled transaction with four > > splits. Each of the amounts is blank, and I fill them in once the bill > > arrives. > > Would that be a useful way for you to account for your income splits? > > > > Liz > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > -- David Carlson ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Forgotten Splits
Your electric bill splits will change every month. Mine change once a year so no, though that’s a good idea. My main concern is that the splits disappear. Hence gnu is not remembering them. I would expect to need to change them once and be done for another year. > On Apr 6, 2024, at 7:11 PM, Liz wrote: > > On Sat, 6 Apr 2024 17:34:26 -0500 > Phyllis Bruce wrote: > >> Just wanting to vent for a moment. I have my income with multiple >> splits in gnucash. Works fine for a while but when they change, >> gnucash forgets the new splits and the old ones. I don't typically >> open the imported transactions but noticed some missing from another >> account and I have three months of splits to recreate. bummer! > > For my electricity bill I have a scheduled transaction with four > splits. Each of the amounts is blank, and I fill them in once the bill > arrives. > Would that be a useful way for you to account for your income splits? > > Liz > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Forgotten Splits
On Sat, 6 Apr 2024 17:34:26 -0500 Phyllis Bruce wrote: > Just wanting to vent for a moment. I have my income with multiple > splits in gnucash. Works fine for a while but when they change, > gnucash forgets the new splits and the old ones. I don't typically > open the imported transactions but noticed some missing from another > account and I have three months of splits to recreate. bummer! For my electricity bill I have a scheduled transaction with four splits. Each of the amounts is blank, and I fill them in once the bill arrives. Would that be a useful way for you to account for your income splits? Liz ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Forgotten Splits
Phyllis, I periodically assess, as you are doing now, whether there is a better workflow to meet my personal needs. My experience has been that the best solution depends on specifics of the situation, which will change when the bank changes their software, etc., hence it is very dynamic. My solution will be different than yours. On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 5:35 PM Phyllis Bruce wrote: > Just wanting to vent for a moment. I have my income with multiple splits > in gnucash. Works fine for a while but when they change, gnucash forgets > the new splits and the old ones. I don't typically open the imported > transactions but noticed some missing from another account and I have three > months of splits to recreate. bummer! > > Something I've noticed in the import and reconciliation is that I spend > time verifying some items before hitting finish. (what did I purchase on > Amazon for X$?) However, then I have to look them up again to enter the > info into my register. > Has anyone found a better way to do this? Should I import the transactions > and just be sure I have zero variance? Then deal with my notations? > > Thanks for you thoughts > Phyllis B > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > -- David Carlson ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Forgotten Splits
Just wanting to vent for a moment. I have my income with multiple splits in gnucash. Works fine for a while but when they change, gnucash forgets the new splits and the old ones. I don't typically open the imported transactions but noticed some missing from another account and I have three months of splits to recreate. bummer! Something I've noticed in the import and reconciliation is that I spend time verifying some items before hitting finish. (what did I purchase on Amazon for X$?) However, then I have to look them up again to enter the info into my register. Has anyone found a better way to do this? Should I import the transactions and just be sure I have zero variance? Then deal with my notations? Thanks for you thoughts Phyllis B ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.