Re: [GNC] I'm looking at installing GnuCash but has a couple of questions first
On 12/04/2024 21:28, Robert Dew wrote: Thanks for the offer Graham I'm getting more and more inclined towards the X11 track. I will need to do a little experimenting with having X11 and CLI on the same VM to see if they "Play nicely" together or if I'll need to run up a separate VM just for the X11 processes. For now I've been side tracked by running up a VM dedicated to MPD so I can (finally) move the radio station PC out of the house and reduce the load on my broadband, but I intend to come back to the GnuCash project in a few weeks. Just noticed on re-reading your email the word CONTAINER. Does GnuCash need to run under Docker or was that simply your choice to do so. On 12 Apr 2024 at 12:00, gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org wrote: I have run gnucash in a container and used x-forwarding successfully to access it from my desktop. The only functions that don't work in this mode are the help and tutorial and concepts guide. These are available separately via browser anyway, so I don't view that as a problem. If that works for your usecase, I can walk you through the details. Graham. I don't use Docker for gnucash, I use a Proxmox lxc container. I do use Docker for other apps but have not tried it with gnucash If you choose to run gnucash in a VM, and you install a full Gnome desktop in the VM, then you can access gnucash remotely with x-forwarding AND have the help and tutorial and concept guide fully operational. Being Scottish, I decided I didn't want to waste resources on another VM just for gnucash, so I went the lxc container route and accepted having help and tutorial separately in a browser. Graham. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] I'm looking at installing GnuCash but has a couple of questions first
On 12/04/2024 01:09, Robert Dew wrote: Thanks for the pointer John. Looks like I'm going to have to learn Python to go down this route. From what I can find with quick google searches seems to suggest that the Flask App captures the output from GnuCash and then via Flask, Python and possibly Node.JS renders an HTML output which is then severed via apache or similar web server. I will sit down later and see if a) my initial assessment is correct and b) the level of new procedures I need to get an understand of. Cheers Robert On 11 Apr 2024 at 19:22, John McKeon wrote: Hello Robert and list. There IS a Python Flask app in the GitHub repo that might work. Documentation is scant, and it requires Python bindings compiled into the binary which, I am lead to believe, is only available out-of-the-box in Linux binaries so you might be in luck. I'm sure others on this list will know if it is at all viable. Thanks and thanks for gnucash! On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 1:05AM Robert Dew wrote: I have a a number of small, separate, but interconnected companies that I'd like to have separate accounting systems for. Does GnuCash allow for multiple businesses, or would I need to install a separate version for each business It's a little unclear if GnuCash operates, or can be made to operate, via a remote web browser. I see references to using X-windows which would be an acceptable option, web/browser based would be my preference. Is there any restrictions on the self hosted version. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. -- John McKeon ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. Robert, I have run gnucash in a container and used x-forwarding successfully to access it from my desktop. The only functions that don't work in this mode are the help and tutorial and concepts guide. These are available separately via browser anyway, so I don't view that as a problem. If that works for your usecase, I can walk you through the details. Graham. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] I'm looking at installing GnuCash but has a couple of questions first
Thanks for the pointer John. Looks like I'm going to have to learn Python to go down this route. >From what I can find with quick google searches seems to suggest that the >Flask App captures the output from GnuCash and then via Flask, Python and possibly Node.JS renders an HTML output which is then severed via apache or similar web server. I will sit down later and see if a) my initial assessment is correct and b) the level of new procedures I need to get an understand of. Cheers Robert On 11 Apr 2024 at 19:22, John McKeon wrote: Hello Robert and list. There IS a Python Flask app in the GitHub repo that might work. Documentation is scant, and it requires Python bindings compiled into the binary which, I am lead to believe, is only available out-of-the-box in Linux binaries so you might be in luck. I'm sure others on this list will know if it is at all viable. Thanks and thanks for gnucash! On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 1:05AM Robert Dew wrote: I have a a number of small, separate, but interconnected companies that I'd like to have separate accounting systems for. Does GnuCash allow for multiple businesses, or would I need to install a separate version for each business It's a little unclear if GnuCash operates, or can be made to operate, via a remote web browser. I see references to using X-windows which would be an acceptable option, web/browser based would be my preference. Is there any restrictions on the self hosted version. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. -- John McKeon ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] I'm looking at installing GnuCash but has a couple of questions first
You install a small agent app on whatever remote machine you want to access. That's all. No other "desktop software" needed. In fact if the remote machine as no desktop at all you can still access the shell (think ssh), transfer files, etc. Plus, no firewall rules needed. From: "Robert Dew" To: "Danny Siminiuk" Cc: "gnucash-user" Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 12:20:26 AM Subject: Re: [GNC] I'm looking at installing GnuCash but has a couple of questions first Thank you Danny, I've just had a quick look at dwservice.net and from what I saw it still will require me to install a desktop GUI system on the Ubuntu box and then use dwservice.net on top of that to send the desktop image back to the office. I think I'll set up some tests with X11 protocol and see how effective that is. I guess worse case is I install GnuCash directly on an office windows PC, which you may gather I'm not a fan of. On 10 Apr 2024 at 22:07, Danny Siminiuk wrote: dwservice.net runs on PC, Linux, MAC, even Raspberry Pi, access all your machines from a web browser. I've been using it for years. - Original Message - From: "david amaral via gnucash-user" To: "gnucash-user" , bob...@bluepukeko.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2024 10:15:38 AM Subject: Re: [GNC] I'm looking at installing GnuCash but has a couple of questions first For anyone wanting to access gnucash or any app on a windows systemlook at teamviewer. lets you set up computer and laptops to access all your aps remotely On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 10:05:34 PM GMT-7, Robert Dew wrote: I have a a number of small, separate, but interconnected companies that I'd like to have separate accounting systems for. Does GnuCash allow for multiple businesses, or would I need to install a separate version for each business It's a little unclear if GnuCash operates, or can be made to operate, via a remote web browser. I see references to using X-windows which would be an acceptable option, web/browser based would be my preference. Is there any restrictions on the self hosted version. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] I'm looking at installing GnuCash but has a couple of questions first
Thank you Danny, I've just had a quick look at dwservice.net and from what I saw it still will require me to install a desktop GUI system on the Ubuntu box and then use dwservice.net on top of that to send the desktop image back to the office. I think I'll set up some tests with X11 protocol and see how effective that is. I guess worse case is I install GnuCash directly on an office windows PC, which you may gather I'm not a fan of. On 10 Apr 2024 at 22:07, Danny Siminiuk wrote: dwservice.net runs on PC, Linux, MAC, even Raspberry Pi, access all your machines from a web browser. I've been using it for years. - Original Message - From: "david amaral via gnucash-user" To: "gnucash-user" , bob...@bluepukeko.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2024 10:15:38 AM Subject: Re: [GNC] I'm looking at installing GnuCash but has a couple of questions first For anyone wanting to access gnucash or any app on a windows systemlook at teamviewer. lets you set up computer and laptops to access all your aps remotely On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 10:05:34 PM GMT-7, Robert Dew wrote: I have a a number of small, separate, but interconnected companies that I'd like to have separate accounting systems for. Does GnuCash allow for multiple businesses, or would I need to install a separate version for each business It's a little unclear if GnuCash operates, or can be made to operate, via a remote web browser. I see references to using X-windows which would be an acceptable option, web/browser based would be my preference. Is there any restrictions on the self hosted version. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] I'm looking at installing GnuCash but has a couple of questions first
dwservice.net runs on PC, Linux, MAC, even Raspberry Pi, access all your machines from a web browser. I've been using it for years. - Original Message - From: "david amaral via gnucash-user" To: "gnucash-user" , bob...@bluepukeko.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2024 10:15:38 AM Subject: Re: [GNC] I'm looking at installing GnuCash but has a couple of questions first For anyone wanting to access gnucash or any app on a windows systemlook at teamviewer. lets you set up computer and laptops to access all your aps remotely On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 10:05:34 PM GMT-7, Robert Dew wrote: I have a a number of small, separate, but interconnected companies that I'd like to have separate accounting systems for. Does GnuCash allow for multiple businesses, or would I need to install a separate version for each business It's a little unclear if GnuCash operates, or can be made to operate, via a remote web browser. I see references to using X-windows which would be an acceptable option, web/browser based would be my preference. Is there any restrictions on the self hosted version. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] I'm looking at installing GnuCash but has a couple of questions first
My intention is to install GnuCash, or some other accounting system, on my leased ProxMox, which is located approx 250kms (155miles) from my office. The install application will be run on a Ubuntu Virtual Machine. To me it would make no sense to add a windows style desktop to the machine and then add something like TeamViewer on top of that as it would add considerable unnecessary extra overhead to the system and also give a lower quality video image. I far prefer an X11 approach with the office terminal drawing the screen contents just the once and at the final viewer. On 9 Apr 2024 at 15:15, david amaral wrote: For anyone wanting to access gnucash or any app on a windows system look at teamviewer. lets you set up computer and laptops to access all your aps remotely On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 10:05:34 PM GMT-7, Robert Dew wrote: I have a a number of small, separate, but interconnected companies that I'd like to have separate accounting systems for. Does GnuCash allow for multiple businesses, or would I need to install a separate version for each business It's a little unclear if GnuCash operates, or can be made to operate, via a remote web browser. I see references to using X-windows which would be an acceptable option, web/browser based would be my preference. Is there any restrictions on the self hosted version. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] I'm looking at installing GnuCash but has a couple of questions first
Mac comes with screensharing built in. No need for a separate app. Some linux distributions also include VNC apps by default, or they can easily be installed. Regards, Adrien On 4/9/24 3:23 PM, G R Hewitt wrote: Also Teamviewer runs on a MAC too. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] I'm looking at installing GnuCash but has a couple of questions first
Also Teamviewer runs on a MAC too. On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 at 16:16, david amaral via gnucash-user < gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: > For anyone wanting to access gnucash or any app on a windows systemlook > at teamviewer. lets you set up computer and laptops to access all your aps > remotely > On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 10:05:34 PM GMT-7, Robert Dew < > b...@dew.gen.nz> wrote: > > I have a a number of small, separate, but interconnected companies that > I'd like to > have separate accounting systems for. > > Does GnuCash allow for multiple businesses, or would I need to install a > separate > version for each business > > It's a little unclear if GnuCash operates, or can be made to operate, via > a remote > web browser. I see references to using X-windows which would be an > acceptable > option, web/browser based would be my preference. > > Is there any restrictions on the self hosted version. > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] I'm looking at installing GnuCash but has a couple of questions first
For anyone wanting to access gnucash or any app on a windows systemlook at teamviewer. lets you set up computer and laptops to access all your aps remotely On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 10:05:34 PM GMT-7, Robert Dew wrote: I have a a number of small, separate, but interconnected companies that I'd like to have separate accounting systems for. Does GnuCash allow for multiple businesses, or would I need to install a separate version for each business It's a little unclear if GnuCash operates, or can be made to operate, via a remote web browser. I see references to using X-windows which would be an acceptable option, web/browser based would be my preference. Is there any restrictions on the self hosted version. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] I'm looking at installing GnuCash but has a couple of questions first
Hello, Robert, and welcome to GnuCash: On 2024-04-08 22:03, Robert Dew wrote: I have a a number of small, separate, but interconnected companies that I'd like to have separate accounting systems for. Does GnuCash allow for multiple businesses, or would I need to install a separate version for each business The wording "install a separate version for each business" is a bit confusing to me. GnuCash is an application which you install on your local personal computer, be it Windows, Mac, or Linux. Then your bookkeeping data is stored in a "book file", a data file with extension "gnucash". Normally one installs a single copy of the GnuCash app to one's computer, and then creates one or multiple data files. Because there is a only a single copy of the GnuCash app, it has only a single app version. It is possible to install multiple copies of the GnuCash app, but it requires some fiddling. For normal use, there is no reason to do so. If keeping books for separate but interconnected companies, you can choose to have a separate book file for each company, or put the transactions for different companies in a single book file with a sprawling chart of accounts to describe each of the companies. Which you choose is an accounting decision. You should equip yourself with accounting advice and expertise. Which way does your accountant recommend you structure the bookkeeping? It's a little unclear if GnuCash operates, or can be made to operate, via a remote web browser. I see references to using X-windows which would be an acceptable option, web/browser based would be my preference. GnuCash is an application which you install on your local personal computer. It is not web hosted or accessed via a web browser. Also note that GnuCash is limited to one user at a time. If you are editing the book file and I want to edit also, then I have to wait until you close the book file before I can open it. If you want multiple employees to be doing bookkeeping on the same book file at once, this limit might be a problem for you. Is there any restrictions on the self hosted version. GnuCash is free software, so probably No, there are not the kind of restrictions on the locally installed app which you might be thinking of. But to be sure, you need to read the GnuCash licence agreement, and maybe consult your own lawyer. One more thing: because GnuCash is free software, there is no charge to download GnuCash, install it, set up some test book files, and try experiments. If you like what it does, keep using it, and start new book files with the real data. If you don't like it, then move on to look for something else. Good luck with your search, —Jim DeLaHunt, using GnuCash for my small business since 2006ish. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] I'm looking at installing GnuCash but has a couple of questions first
On Tue, 09 Apr 2024 17:03:53 +1200 "Robert Dew" wrote: > I have a a number of small, separate, but interconnected companies > that I'd like to have separate accounting systems for. > > Does GnuCash allow for multiple businesses, Yes > or would I need to > install a separate version for each business No > > It's a little unclear if GnuCash operates, or can be made to operate, > via a remote web browser. No > I see references to using X-windows which > would be an acceptable option, web/browser based would be my > preference. You can use a VNC system if you wish. You can host your datafiles at home and then use the Gnucash program from a roaming computer to use that datafile and save back to your storage. > > Is there any restrictions on the self hosted version. No Liz ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
