Re: [Imports] Fwd: [osm-pl] Import adresów Gmina Wieprz
On 21 February 2014 01:48, Jason Remillard remillard.ja...@gmail.com wrote: Could somebody recap this, if this one really one huge import across all of Poland, or a bunch of little imports. It seems like this is the primary issue to work through right now. Sounds like a deeply philospohical question. One of the lessens I have taken away from lurking on the NY address import is that it is very likely that different areas with have specific issues. Spot checking a couple of places does not mean you are in the clear. That's probably going to be true for any dataset though, unless it's really small. Most imports deal with data produced by human surveyors and you'll have specific issues between areas and times of collection. (LIDAR-generated buildings would be an exception) In this case, as well as probably the NY import or TIGER, it's data collected over years by thousands of workers. The common issues can probably be grouped together and an importer processing many areas will learn how to spot them. (note this address data in Poland is not available for all of Poland, only municialities that implemented the programme so far) Cheers ___ Imports mailing list Imports@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports
Re: [Imports] Fwd: [osm-pl] Import adresów Gmina Wieprz
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Jason Remillard remillard.ja...@gmail.comwrote: Hello Everybody, Each municipality is a different import. Part of the process needs to be to be validation, for example, which has already been brought up and not answered. I have been trying to follow this thread, but I think I missed this part. Could somebody recap this, if this one really one huge import across all of Poland, or a bunch of little imports. This is a bunch of little imports. This is not a single all of Poland dataset, but rather a collection of little datasets by region. The data is similar, of course due to the nature of the data being addresses. It seems like this is the primary issue to work through right now. If the process or source data comes from different places, then each one is its own import, with its own wiki, with its own discussion, 1+ week consultation, etc The data is collected on a single site, but to my knowledge it's not a single dataset. It's just listed on a single website. - Serge ___ Imports mailing list Imports@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports
Re: [Imports] Fwd: Nuovo Import
The id of the stop is public: if you look at the table (at the bus stop), this number is placed at the bottom of the name. I'm going to write down the wiki. Thanks! Il giorno 21 febbraio 2014 02:09, Jason Remillard remillard.ja...@gmail.com ha scritto: Hi Eduard, One of the issues that always seems to cause difficulties on public transportation imports is the ID/ref. ref= is only used if it is visible on the stops. If the ID is really an SIRI id or GTFS id, then it should use a different tag. If the ID, is none of the above, then perhaps it should not be imported. Anyway, setup a project wiki, document your plan, and email us again when it is ready to be reviewed. Thanks Jason 2014-02-20 14:56 GMT-05:00 Eduard Natale eduard.nat...@gmail.com: Hi all, I'm Eduard and I'm planning the OpenStreetMap Hackathon session for the OpenDataDay in Naples (next saturday). The Public Transportation company decided to release information (with a Open Data License) on bus stops, so we can use this information. For this reason I decided to import the data in OpenStreetMap following the wiki at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines Attached there is the mail I sent to the italian group where I'm describing the work plan, waiting for their considerations and suggestions. 1. The public transportation company will give us the data (position - epsg:4326), name and code of the bus stops 2. I'm planning to export the data using a format compliant to JOSM (like osm in order to add the tags suggested by the OSM wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Buses), in this way I can overlap the newly created layer to a satellite map and evaluate errors (if any) 3. upload on OpenStreetMap I'm going to insert an entry to the Import/catalogue table and cite the company that released the data. If you have any suggestion, please tell me. Ciao Eduard -- Messaggio inoltrato -- Da: Eduard Natale eduard.nat...@gmail.com Date: 20 febbraio 2014 16:49 Oggetto: Nuovo Import A: talk...@openstreetmap.org Ciao a tutti, per l'OpenDataDay del prossimo sabato 22 febbraio a Napoli ( http://wiki.opendataday.org/Napoli2014), l'azienda dei trasporti pubblici locale rilascerà, per il gruppo che si occuperà del mapping su OpenStreetMap, la lista delle fermate (le paline) degli autobus e relativi metadata. L'import riguarderebbe l'area della città di Napoli, riassumo il mio work plan: 1. reperisco la lista delle fermate con relativa posizione GPS (EPSG:4326), nome e codice della fermata 2. esporto questa lista (xml o json) in un formato compatibile con JOSM, ad esempio osm in cui è possibile anche aggiungere, fermata per fermata, i tag suggeriti dalla wiki di OpenStreetMap http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Buses - highway=bus_stop - name=nome_fermata - operator=nome_azienda - ref=numero_fermata 3. su JOSM aggiungo un layer con vista aerea in maniera tale da osservare eventuali inesattezze ed essere sicuri di non aver commesso errori durante le fasi precedenti 4. upload su OpenStreetMap Avremo i permessi dell'azienda detentrice dei dati a poterli caricare su OSM (saranno OpenData). Come previsto dalle linee guida, provvederò a inserire una entry nella tabella Import/Catalogue e citerò chi ha rilasciato i dati. Sarebbe utile poter creare una wiki page per Napoli, come è stato fatto per Torino, Bologna, Milano e Roma. Io attendo qualunque vostro parere e suggerimenti sulla modalità esposta sopra. Se qualcuno vuole darmi una mano o si trova a Napoli e vuole partecipare Sabato all'ODDNA14 mi fa tantissimo piacere. Se avete anche suggerimenti sui tool da adottare (ad esempio per creare un file osm da importare in Josm) sono ben accetti. Grazie per la collaborazione!! -- Eduard -- Eduard ___ Imports mailing list Imports@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports -- Eduard ___ Imports mailing list Imports@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports
Re: [Imports] Fwd: [osm-pl] Import adresów Gmina Wieprz
On 02/21/2014 01:54 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Jason Remillard remillard.ja...@gmail.com mailto:remillard.ja...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everybody, Each municipality is a different import. Part of the process needs to be to be validation, for example, which has already been brought up and not answered. I have been trying to follow this thread, but I think I missed this part. Could somebody recap this, if this one really one huge import across all of Poland, or a bunch of little imports. This is a bunch of little imports. This is not a single all of Poland dataset, but rather a collection of little datasets by region. The data is similar, of course due to the nature of the data being addresses. this is true. Data comes form local governaments databases/GIS which are build according to common ministerial rules. masti ___ Imports mailing list Imports@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports
Re: [Imports] Fwd: [osm-pl] Import adresów Gmina Wieprz
Hi, This is a bunch of little imports. This is not a single all of Poland dataset, but rather a collection of little datasets by region. The data is similar, of course due to the nature of the data being addresses. this is true. Data comes form local governaments databases/GIS which are build according to common ministerial rules. Are all of the local governments using an identical and rigorously defined standard for the data, with enough standardization that it would allow exactly the same process to be used over and over again? Jason ___ Imports mailing list Imports@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports
