[LincolnTalk] Fwd: Axes and rabbits and deals...oh my!

[Sara Mattes]

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Sara Mattes




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[LincolnTalk] Fwd: HCA & Codman Road

[Staci Montori]

Hi Sara,

Better yet, maybe we should compare how often those of us within the town
center walk or bike to the post office, Donelan’s, Something Special,
Codman Farm, Twisted Tree, the bank,  the school, etc.. compared to how
often those who don’t live within 1/2 mile, drive their cars to town center
(or elsewhere) for groceries, to the school, etc.

My guess (sort of a no brainer IMHO) is that those of us within the 1/2
mile to town center (regardless of how many cars we own) drive our cars a
lot less frequently to these places than those farther away.




Sincerely,
Staci Montori
84 Codman Road








On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 5:30 PM Sara Mattes  wrote:

> I am curious if anyone has done a poll of how many residents who live in
> the immediate Lincoln station are and with the 1/2 mile around own cars?
> Has there been hard data to support this not in that most of the Station
> area residents use public transportation for most travel?
>
> Or are we creating romanticized notion of a Belgium village with all
> buildings concentrated in the core, and great bike paths and a wonderful
> rail system?
>
> Seriously-where is the info/data on current conditions on the ground?
>
>
> --
> Sara Mattes
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 25, 2023, at 4:33 PM, Scott Clary  wrote:
>
> I could be wrong john, but I don't believe declining property values is a
> primary driver for opponents. Whether you believe it or not, that's
> something I've heard very little of and I am confident concerns few except
> perhaps the people directly impacted in the mall/ station area who could
> have a very large, concentrated development on top of them. And perhaps
> some people who are already on cut through streets that will have a lot
> more traffic cutting through with such a huge concentration at Lincoln
> Station. I'm not sure where your confidence is coming from that we will
> create a low Auto impact development with that many units at that price
> range as people are going to be owning cars because they still have to get
> places other than something within a short walk.
>
> NOT building big apartment and commercial buildings with multiple stories
> in such a dense arrangement with big footprints would be a disservice to
> wildlife???
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Scott Clary
> 617-968-5769
>
> Sent from a mobile device - please excuse typos and errors
>
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2023, 4:08 PM John Mendelson 
> wrote:
>
>> I am glad someone finally said the quiet part out loud.
>>
>> I've long believed what is driving much of the opposition here is the*
>> fear of declining property values*.  I get it as one of the main points
>> of the HCA *is* to drive down prices by increasing supply.  But the
>> reality is that those who are already "in the game" of home ownership will
>> not lose out by lower home prices on the market level.  But *more*
>> people might actually be able to afford to buy their first home or condo
>> here.
>>
>> Increasing density at the station/mall will not destroy conservation
>> land, hiking trails, farmland, nor wildlife.  But It may just get people
>> out of their cars a bit more and reduce the carbon footprint of our housing
>> stock--multi-family homes inherently have lower construction and energy
>> costs than do single-family dwellings.
>>
>> There will be no clear-cutting. The majority of the development, should
>> it occur at all, will be on existing parking lots and in place of tired
>> buildings at the mall.  Our wildlife is already well-adapted to life in
>> suburban and even urban areas and the area around the mall is already
>> filled with buildings, lights, and asphalt.
>>
>> The institutional core of Lincoln is perfect for a walking and biking,
>> car-lite lifestyle.  One can get to the grocery, school, library, and maybe
>> even the new community center on foot or bike, all on a protected roadside
>> path.  As someone who has an office at Lincoln Station and walks or bikes
>> to work everyday, I recommend it highly.  My kids never had to wait in a
>> drop-off line as they could walk or bike to school every day.  This is
>> simply not the case in North Lincoln given the state of the route 2 and
>> route 2A crossing.  We are very lucky to have this lifestyle and the open
>> space all around that is protected in perpetuity.
>>
>> Voting to not comply would be a disservice to our town, our county, and
>> our state.  Not to mention the people and wildlife who want to live here or
>> already do.
>>
>> John
>>
>> PS I urge everyone to read the Globe Spotlight Team's series of articles
>> on this very topic here:
>> https://apps.bostonglobe.com/2023/10/special-projects/spotlight-boston-housing/watertown-house-family-homeownership/?s_campaign=housingproj:na
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 2:16 PM maureen  wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with including "Not Comply" as an option to vote on.  What do we
>>> gain by rushing to comply with the state's guidelines?  Has anyone done a
>>> real cost-benefit analysis for Lincoln residents if we 

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Re: [LincolnTalk] HCA & Codman Road

[Sara Mattes]

I am curious if anyone has done a poll of how many residents who live in the 
immediate Lincoln station are and with the 1/2 mile around own cars?
Has there been hard data to support this not in that most of the Station area 
residents use public transportation for most travel?

Or are we creating romanticized notion of a Belgium village with all buildings 
concentrated in the core, and great bike paths and a wonderful rail system?

Seriously-where is the info/data on current conditions on the ground?


--
Sara Mattes




> On Oct 25, 2023, at 4:33 PM, Scott Clary  wrote:
> 
> I could be wrong john, but I don't believe declining property values is a 
> primary driver for opponents. Whether you believe it or not, that's something 
> I've heard very little of and I am confident concerns few except perhaps the 
> people directly impacted in the mall/ station area who could have a very 
> large, concentrated development on top of them. And perhaps some people who 
> are already on cut through streets that will have a lot more traffic cutting 
> through with such a huge concentration at Lincoln Station. I'm not sure where 
> your confidence is coming from that we will create a low Auto impact 
> development with that many units at that price range as people are going to 
> be owning cars because they still have to get places other than something 
> within a short walk. 
> 
> NOT building big apartment and commercial buildings with multiple stories in 
> such a dense arrangement with big footprints would be a disservice to 
> wildlife???
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Scott Clary
> 617-968-5769
> 
> Sent from a mobile device - please excuse typos and errors   
> 
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2023, 4:08 PM John Mendelson  > wrote:
>> I am glad someone finally said the quiet part out loud.  
>> 
>> I've long believed what is driving much of the opposition here is the fear 
>> of declining property values.  I get it as one of the main points of the HCA 
>> is to drive down prices by increasing supply.  But the reality is that those 
>> who are already "in the game" of home ownership will not lose out by lower 
>> home prices on the market level.  But more people might actually be able to 
>> afford to buy their first home or condo here.  
>> 
>> Increasing density at the station/mall will not destroy conservation land, 
>> hiking trails, farmland, nor wildlife.  But It may just get people out of 
>> their cars a bit more and reduce the carbon footprint of our housing 
>> stock--multi-family homes inherently have lower construction and energy 
>> costs than do single-family dwellings.
>> 
>> There will be no clear-cutting. The majority of the development, should it 
>> occur at all, will be on existing parking lots and in place of tired 
>> buildings at the mall.  Our wildlife is already well-adapted to life in 
>> suburban and even urban areas and the area around the mall is already filled 
>> with buildings, lights, and asphalt.  
>> 
>> The institutional core of Lincoln is perfect for a walking and biking, 
>> car-lite lifestyle.  One can get to the grocery, school, library, and maybe 
>> even the new community center on foot or bike, all on a protected roadside 
>> path.  As someone who has an office at Lincoln Station and walks or bikes to 
>> work everyday, I recommend it highly.  My kids never had to wait in a 
>> drop-off line as they could walk or bike to school every day.  This is 
>> simply not the case in North Lincoln given the state of the route 2 and 
>> route 2A crossing.  We are very lucky to have this lifestyle and the open 
>> space all around that is protected in perpetuity.
>> 
>> Voting to not comply would be a disservice to our town, our county, and our 
>> state.  Not to mention the people and wildlife who want to live here or 
>> already do.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> PS I urge everyone to read the Globe Spotlight Team's series of articles on 
>> this very topic here:  
>> https://apps.bostonglobe.com/2023/10/special-projects/spotlight-boston-housing/watertown-house-family-homeownership/?s_campaign=housingproj:na
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 2:16 PM maureen > > wrote:
>>> I agree with including "Not Comply" as an option to vote on.  What do we 
>>> gain by rushing to comply with the state's guidelines?  Has anyone done a 
>>> real cost-benefit analysis for Lincoln residents if we increase census to 
>>> these numbers--including increased costs for services such as fire,  
>>> police, ambulance, and roads?  What do we lose from the state regarding 
>>> funding if we do not comply or delay compliance at this time?  
>>> What will be the costs of increased taxes to an already burdened town?  
>>> What do we lose in property values if we destroy what makes Lincoln 
>>> special--the conservation land, hiking trails, wildlife, farmlands, less 
>>> traffic, and lower housing density?  We still will not gain from affordable 
>>> housing.
>>>  
>>> My husband 

Re: [LincolnTalk] HCA & Codman Road

[Sara Mattes]

Perhaps the potential congestion might deter some, my self included, from 
venturing there.
And, it will certainly loose its low-key vibe.
It will become Newtonville.

I might well choose a more navigable route and avoid the traffic….leave the 
place to those who can walk.


--
Sara Mattes




> On Oct 25, 2023, at 5:15 PM, Bryce Wells via Lincoln 
>  wrote:
> 
> It's hard to know what's really behind a person's motivations to support or 
> not support a project like this. Heck, sometimes they may not truly know.
> 
> Having said that, the only folks that I tend to empathize with are abutters 
> to the project area who do not support the development as it will materially 
> impact their immediate home area (though we can quibble as to what degree 
> since there is more densely configured living in that area already compared 
> to the rest of the town). 
> 
> I still support this project but I understand if someone like that opposes 
> it. Everything else comes off as conjecture. Home values?  Good golly, isn't 
> that the go to bogeyman... I remember all the warnings about decreasing / 
> increasing home values when we voted on the school. Wildlife? I'm not an 
> expert and while the maps that someone shared were interesting to look at, it 
> seems glossed over that there's already a wide train path cutting right 
> through there. Also, are apartments of 3 stories more intimidating than 
> apartments that are only 1 or 2 stories? I missed the data on this. Losing 
> our rural identity? The area we're talking about is already "developed" - 
> certainly much more than the rest of town - and anything we decide to do in 
> that footprint doesn't lessen the 80+ miles of trails, acres and acres of 
> conservation land, etc.  
> 
> My opinion is that we're talking about an area that already serves as a 
> central point in the town, our train station, our 1 restaurant, our 1 cafe, 
> our 1 grocery store, 1 of our 2 post offices, 2 of our complexes, etc. and 
> the central question is, DO we want to utilize that area  for additional 
> development... and if so, how?   
> 
> Thanks for reading this far if you have...
> 
> Bryce Wells
> 112 Trapelo (at least 2 miles away from the proposed site and very much in 
> favor of it)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 4:34 PM Scott Clary  > wrote:
>> I could be wrong john, but I don't believe declining property values is a 
>> primary driver for opponents. Whether you believe it or not, that's 
>> something I've heard very little of and I am confident concerns few except 
>> perhaps the people directly impacted in the mall/ station area who could 
>> have a very large, concentrated development on top of them. And perhaps some 
>> people who are already on cut through streets that will have a lot more 
>> traffic cutting through with such a huge concentration at Lincoln Station. 
>> I'm not sure where your confidence is coming from that we will create a low 
>> Auto impact development with that many units at that price range as people 
>> are going to be owning cars because they still have to get places other than 
>> something within a short walk. 
>> 
>> NOT building big apartment and commercial buildings with multiple stories in 
>> such a dense arrangement with big footprints would be a disservice to 
>> wildlife???
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>> Scott Clary
>> 617-968-5769
>> 
>> Sent from a mobile device - please excuse typos and errors   
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2023, 4:08 PM John Mendelson > > wrote:
>>> I am glad someone finally said the quiet part out loud.  
>>> 
>>> I've long believed what is driving much of the opposition here is the fear 
>>> of declining property values.  I get it as one of the main points of the 
>>> HCA is to drive down prices by increasing supply.  But the reality is that 
>>> those who are already "in the game" of home ownership will not lose out by 
>>> lower home prices on the market level.  But more people might actually be 
>>> able to afford to buy their first home or condo here.  
>>> 
>>> Increasing density at the station/mall will not destroy conservation land, 
>>> hiking trails, farmland, nor wildlife.  But It may just get people out of 
>>> their cars a bit more and reduce the carbon footprint of our housing 
>>> stock--multi-family homes inherently have lower construction and energy 
>>> costs than do single-family dwellings.
>>> 
>>> There will be no clear-cutting. The majority of the development, should it 
>>> occur at all, will be on existing parking lots and in place of tired 
>>> buildings at the mall.  Our wildlife is already well-adapted to life in 
>>> suburban and even urban areas and the area around the mall is already 
>>> filled with buildings, lights, and asphalt.  
>>> 
>>> The institutional core of Lincoln is perfect for a walking and biking, 
>>> car-lite lifestyle.  One can get to the grocery, school, library, and maybe 
>>> even 

[LincolnTalk] HCA & Codman Road

[Benjamin Shiller]

I doubt that the additional housing supply would materially impact housing
values in Lincoln (unless they make it a less desirable place to live).
Lincoln is not an island, but rather part of the Boston metro.  The 600
housing units we are talking about won't substantially change supply around
Boston.  The overall housing choice act might, but whether other towns
develop is out of our control.  Thus, I hope that we can stop focusing on
home values in relation to the HCA (no matter which side one is on) vote,
and focus on the other issues at hand.

Ben
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Re: [LincolnTalk] HCA & Codman Road

[Bryce Wells via Lincoln]

It's hard to know what's really behind a person's motivations to support or
not support a project like this. Heck, sometimes they may not truly know.

Having said that, the only folks that I tend to empathize with are abutters
to the project area who do not support the development as it will
materially impact their immediate home area (though we can quibble as to
what degree since there is more densely configured living in that area
already compared to the rest of the town).

I still support this project but I understand if someone like that
opposes it. Everything else comes off as conjecture. Home values?  Good
golly, isn't that the go to bogeyman... I remember all the warnings about
decreasing / increasing home values when we voted on the school. Wildlife?
I'm not an expert and while the maps that someone shared were interesting
to look at, it seems glossed over that there's already a wide train path
cutting right through there. Also, are apartments of 3 stories more
intimidating than apartments that are only 1 or 2 stories? I missed the
data on this. Losing our rural identity? The area we're talking about is
already "developed" - certainly much more than the rest of town - and
anything we decide to do in that footprint doesn't lessen the 80+ miles of
trails, acres and acres of conservation land, etc.

My *opinion* is that we're talking about an area that already serves as a
central point in the town, our train station, our 1 restaurant, our 1 cafe,
our 1 grocery store, 1 of our 2 post offices, 2 of our complexes, etc. and
the central question is, DO we want to utilize that area  for additional
development... and if so, how?

Thanks for reading this far if you have...

Bryce Wells
112 Trapelo (at least 2 miles away from the proposed site and very much in
favor of it)









On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 4:34 PM Scott Clary  wrote:

> I could be wrong john, but I don't believe declining property values is a
> primary driver for opponents. Whether you believe it or not, that's
> something I've heard very little of and I am confident concerns few except
> perhaps the people directly impacted in the mall/ station area who could
> have a very large, concentrated development on top of them. And perhaps
> some people who are already on cut through streets that will have a lot
> more traffic cutting through with such a huge concentration at Lincoln
> Station. I'm not sure where your confidence is coming from that we will
> create a low Auto impact development with that many units at that price
> range as people are going to be owning cars because they still have to get
> places other than something within a short walk.
>
> NOT building big apartment and commercial buildings with multiple stories
> in such a dense arrangement with big footprints would be a disservice to
> wildlife???
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Scott Clary
> 617-968-5769
>
> Sent from a mobile device - please excuse typos and errors
>
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2023, 4:08 PM John Mendelson 
> wrote:
>
>> I am glad someone finally said the quiet part out loud.
>>
>> I've long believed what is driving much of the opposition here is the*
>> fear of declining property values*.  I get it as one of the main points
>> of the HCA *is* to drive down prices by increasing supply.  But the
>> reality is that those who are already "in the game" of home ownership will
>> not lose out by lower home prices on the market level.  But *more*
>> people might actually be able to afford to buy their first home or condo
>> here.
>>
>> Increasing density at the station/mall will not destroy conservation
>> land, hiking trails, farmland, nor wildlife.  But It may just get people
>> out of their cars a bit more and reduce the carbon footprint of our housing
>> stock--multi-family homes inherently have lower construction and energy
>> costs than do single-family dwellings.
>>
>> There will be no clear-cutting. The majority of the development, should
>> it occur at all, will be on existing parking lots and in place of tired
>> buildings at the mall.  Our wildlife is already well-adapted to life in
>> suburban and even urban areas and the area around the mall is already
>> filled with buildings, lights, and asphalt.
>>
>> The institutional core of Lincoln is perfect for a walking and biking,
>> car-lite lifestyle.  One can get to the grocery, school, library, and maybe
>> even the new community center on foot or bike, all on a protected roadside
>> path.  As someone who has an office at Lincoln Station and walks or bikes
>> to work everyday, I recommend it highly.  My kids never had to wait in a
>> drop-off line as they could walk or bike to school every day.  This is
>> simply not the case in North Lincoln given the state of the route 2 and
>> route 2A crossing.  We are very lucky to have this lifestyle and the open
>> space all around that is protected in perpetuity.
>>
>> Voting to not comply would be a disservice to our town, our county, and
>> our state.  Not to mention the people and 

Re: [LincolnTalk] HCA & Codman Road

[Scott Clary]

I could be wrong john, but I don't believe declining property values is a
primary driver for opponents. Whether you believe it or not, that's
something I've heard very little of and I am confident concerns few except
perhaps the people directly impacted in the mall/ station area who could
have a very large, concentrated development on top of them. And perhaps
some people who are already on cut through streets that will have a lot
more traffic cutting through with such a huge concentration at Lincoln
Station. I'm not sure where your confidence is coming from that we will
create a low Auto impact development with that many units at that price
range as people are going to be owning cars because they still have to get
places other than something within a short walk.

NOT building big apartment and commercial buildings with multiple stories
in such a dense arrangement with big footprints would be a disservice to
wildlife???

Kind Regards,

Scott Clary
617-968-5769

Sent from a mobile device - please excuse typos and errors

On Wed, Oct 25, 2023, 4:08 PM John Mendelson 
wrote:

> I am glad someone finally said the quiet part out loud.
>
> I've long believed what is driving much of the opposition here is the*
> fear of declining property values*.  I get it as one of the main points
> of the HCA *is* to drive down prices by increasing supply.  But the
> reality is that those who are already "in the game" of home ownership will
> not lose out by lower home prices on the market level.  But *more* people
> might actually be able to afford to buy their first home or condo here.
>
> Increasing density at the station/mall will not destroy conservation land,
> hiking trails, farmland, nor wildlife.  But It may just get people out of
> their cars a bit more and reduce the carbon footprint of our housing
> stock--multi-family homes inherently have lower construction and energy
> costs than do single-family dwellings.
>
> There will be no clear-cutting. The majority of the development, should it
> occur at all, will be on existing parking lots and in place of tired
> buildings at the mall.  Our wildlife is already well-adapted to life in
> suburban and even urban areas and the area around the mall is already
> filled with buildings, lights, and asphalt.
>
> The institutional core of Lincoln is perfect for a walking and biking,
> car-lite lifestyle.  One can get to the grocery, school, library, and maybe
> even the new community center on foot or bike, all on a protected roadside
> path.  As someone who has an office at Lincoln Station and walks or bikes
> to work everyday, I recommend it highly.  My kids never had to wait in a
> drop-off line as they could walk or bike to school every day.  This is
> simply not the case in North Lincoln given the state of the route 2 and
> route 2A crossing.  We are very lucky to have this lifestyle and the open
> space all around that is protected in perpetuity.
>
> Voting to not comply would be a disservice to our town, our county, and
> our state.  Not to mention the people and wildlife who want to live here or
> already do.
>
> John
>
> PS I urge everyone to read the Globe Spotlight Team's series of articles
> on this very topic here:
> https://apps.bostonglobe.com/2023/10/special-projects/spotlight-boston-housing/watertown-house-family-homeownership/?s_campaign=housingproj:na
>
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 2:16 PM maureen  wrote:
>
>> I agree with including "Not Comply" as an option to vote on.  What do we
>> gain by rushing to comply with the state's guidelines?  Has anyone done a
>> real cost-benefit analysis for Lincoln residents if we increase census to
>> these numbers--including increased costs for services such as fire,
>> police, ambulance, and roads?  What do we lose from the state regarding
>> funding if we do not comply or delay compliance at this time?
>> What will be the costs of increased taxes to an already burdened town?
>> What do we lose in property values if we destroy what makes Lincoln
>> special--the conservation land, hiking trails, wildlife, farmlands, less
>> traffic, and lower housing density?  We still will not gain from affordable
>> housing.
>>
>> My husband and I would vote "No Comply"!!
>>
>> Maureen Malin and Chuck Kaman
>>
>> On 10/25/2023 9:08 AM EDT Robert Ahlert  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thanks Carl, as always your intentions are noble.
>>
>> And I think this is fundamentally what people need to decide for
>> themselves and not have the HCAWG making decisions for the people.  I have
>> been and am still advocating for 5-7 options at the Dec 'Sense of the
>> Town'.
>>
>> Here is how I personally would lay out the options (feel free to
>> disagree, anyone, please) ...
>>
>> 1. Full S. Lincoln - current Option C
>> 2. 80/20 S. Lincoln + other current Multi-family area
>> 3. 50/50 S. Lincoln + other current Multi-family area
>> 4. 20/80 S. Lincoln + other current Multi-family areas (what i have been
>> proposing, not yet included in any Options by HCAWG including 

Re: [LincolnTalk] HCA & Codman Road

[John Mendelson]

I am glad someone finally said the quiet part out loud.

I've long believed what is driving much of the opposition here is the* fear
of declining property values*.  I get it as one of the main points of the
HCA *is* to drive down prices by increasing supply.  But the reality is
that those who are already "in the game" of home ownership will not lose
out by lower home prices on the market level.  But *more* people might
actually be able to afford to buy their first home or condo here.

Increasing density at the station/mall will not destroy conservation land,
hiking trails, farmland, nor wildlife.  But It may just get people out of
their cars a bit more and reduce the carbon footprint of our housing
stock--multi-family homes inherently have lower construction and energy
costs than do single-family dwellings.

There will be no clear-cutting. The majority of the development, should it
occur at all, will be on existing parking lots and in place of tired
buildings at the mall.  Our wildlife is already well-adapted to life in
suburban and even urban areas and the area around the mall is already
filled with buildings, lights, and asphalt.

The institutional core of Lincoln is perfect for a walking and biking,
car-lite lifestyle.  One can get to the grocery, school, library, and maybe
even the new community center on foot or bike, all on a protected roadside
path.  As someone who has an office at Lincoln Station and walks or bikes
to work everyday, I recommend it highly.  My kids never had to wait in a
drop-off line as they could walk or bike to school every day.  This is
simply not the case in North Lincoln given the state of the route 2 and
route 2A crossing.  We are very lucky to have this lifestyle and the open
space all around that is protected in perpetuity.

Voting to not comply would be a disservice to our town, our county, and our
state.  Not to mention the people and wildlife who want to live here or
already do.

John

PS I urge everyone to read the Globe Spotlight Team's series of articles on
this very topic here:
https://apps.bostonglobe.com/2023/10/special-projects/spotlight-boston-housing/watertown-house-family-homeownership/?s_campaign=housingproj:na

On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 2:16 PM maureen  wrote:

> I agree with including "Not Comply" as an option to vote on.  What do we
> gain by rushing to comply with the state's guidelines?  Has anyone done a
> real cost-benefit analysis for Lincoln residents if we increase census to
> these numbers--including increased costs for services such as fire,
> police, ambulance, and roads?  What do we lose from the state regarding
> funding if we do not comply or delay compliance at this time?
> What will be the costs of increased taxes to an already burdened town?
> What do we lose in property values if we destroy what makes Lincoln
> special--the conservation land, hiking trails, wildlife, farmlands, less
> traffic, and lower housing density?  We still will not gain from affordable
> housing.
>
> My husband and I would vote "No Comply"!!
>
> Maureen Malin and Chuck Kaman
>
> On 10/25/2023 9:08 AM EDT Robert Ahlert  wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Carl, as always your intentions are noble.
>
> And I think this is fundamentally what people need to decide for
> themselves and not have the HCAWG making decisions for the people.  I have
> been and am still advocating for 5-7 options at the Dec 'Sense of the
> Town'.
>
> Here is how I personally would lay out the options (feel free to disagree,
> anyone, please) ...
>
> 1. Full S. Lincoln - current Option C
> 2. 80/20 S. Lincoln + other current Multi-family area
> 3. 50/50 S. Lincoln + other current Multi-family area
> 4. 20/80 S. Lincoln + other current Multi-family areas (what i have been
> proposing, not yet included in any Options by HCAWG including the "Ds")
> 5. Full other current Multi-family areas
> 6. No Comply
>
> I ask everyone to write to the Selects and discuss with their neighbors
> and friends to open this process back up and to let some other voices into
> the HCAWG!
>
> Also please start paying attention to the Max Units calculations as show
> in our town's submission to the State using Option C.  Once developer's get
> control 'by right', I'm not sure own town is prepared to defend itself.
> More to come ...
>
> Rob
>
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 8:33 AM Carl Angiolillo 
> wrote:
>
> Rob, I'm glad we're in alignment about focusing on areas of existing
> density and infrastructure. Several of the options you and the group
> proposed seem promising. One remaining point of disagreement is how much to
> value walkability and proximity to transit when comparing options. I don't
> think we need to become Switzerland or turn back the clock 100 years or for
> anyone to live an environmentally-friendly car-free life for that to be
> worth prioritizing.
>
> > the Route 2 corridor by far makes the most sense
>
> Route 2 can certainly support much higher volumes of car traffic than
> Lincoln road but it's not an infinite traffic 

Re: [LincolnTalk] HCA & Codman Road

[Scott Clary]

As far as I know, the Town has not used these funds or grants in the past
so why so necessary moving forward? The only one that looks to make sense
is the massworks grant which could be used to help replace and repair our
water mains. I understand our water mains are in need of replacement,
however, the town is now making it sound critical and we risk losing the
grant by not complying with HCA. If that's the case, then why hasn't
leadership applied for these grants prior? Seems like a bit of
scaremongering here backing an agenda.

Kind Regards,

Scott Clary
617-968-5769

Sent from a mobile device - please excuse typos and errors

On Wed, Oct 25, 2023, 2:28 PM Barbara Low  wrote:

> One question is for what funds would we become ineligible if we do not
> comply. The initial funds were monies we never got anyway. Then Andrea
> Campbell listed several other state funding sources that would be
> unavailable to communities that do not comply. Is that true? Is that legal?
> And what is happening to the law suit filed by the other town? This is
> information we need to make an informed choice.
> --
> *From:* Lincoln  on behalf of maureen <
> maur...@mochuck.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 25, 2023 2:14 PM
> *To:* Robert Ahlert ; Carl Angiolillo <
> carlangioli...@gmail.com>; Lincoln Talk 
> *Subject:* Re: [LincolnTalk] HCA & Codman Road
>
> I agree with including "Not Comply" as an option to vote on.  What do we
> gain by rushing to comply with the state's guidelines?  Has anyone done a
> real cost-benefit analysis for Lincoln residents if we increase census to
> these numbers--including increased costs for services such as fire,
> police, ambulance, and roads?  What do we lose from the state regarding
> funding if we do not comply or delay compliance at this time?
> What will be the costs of increased taxes to an already burdened town?
> What do we lose in property values if we destroy what makes Lincoln
> special--the conservation land, hiking trails, wildlife, farmlands, less
> traffic, and lower housing density?  We still will not gain from affordable
> housing.
>
> My husband and I would vote "No Comply"!!
>
> Maureen Malin and Chuck Kaman
>
> On 10/25/2023 9:08 AM EDT Robert Ahlert  wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Carl, as always your intentions are noble.
>
> And I think this is fundamentally what people need to decide for
> themselves and not have the HCAWG making decisions for the people.  I have
> been and am still advocating for 5-7 options at the Dec 'Sense of the
> Town'.
>
> Here is how I personally would lay out the options (feel free to disagree,
> anyone, please) ...
>
> 1. Full S. Lincoln - current Option C
> 2. 80/20 S. Lincoln + other current Multi-family area
> 3. 50/50 S. Lincoln + other current Multi-family area
> 4. 20/80 S. Lincoln + other current Multi-family areas (what i have been
> proposing, not yet included in any Options by HCAWG including the "Ds")
> 5. Full other current Multi-family areas
> 6. No Comply
>
> I ask everyone to write to the Selects and discuss with their neighbors
> and friends to open this process back up and to let some other voices into
> the HCAWG!
>
> Also please start paying attention to the Max Units calculations as show
> in our town's submission to the State using Option C.  Once developer's get
> control 'by right', I'm not sure own town is prepared to defend itself.
> More to come ...
>
> Rob
>
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 8:33 AM Carl Angiolillo 
> wrote:
>
> Rob, I'm glad we're in alignment about focusing on areas of existing
> density and infrastructure. Several of the options you and the group
> proposed seem promising. One remaining point of disagreement is how much to
> value walkability and proximity to transit when comparing options. I don't
> think we need to become Switzerland or turn back the clock 100 years or for
> anyone to live an environmentally-friendly car-free life for that to be
> worth prioritizing.
>
> > the Route 2 corridor by far makes the most sense
>
> Route 2 can certainly support much higher volumes of car traffic than
> Lincoln road but it's not an infinite traffic sink. Regional traffic
> including on Route 2 is increasing and Boston apparently now number four in
> the world for congestion ref https://inrix.com/scorecard/. Especially if
> neighboring towns similarly zone for car-dependent developments then
> driving commutes will continue to get worse -- not just on Lincoln Road but
> on Route 2 and elsewhere. I'm definitely not opposed to analyzing the
> impact on specific hotspots like five corners, just pointing out that if
> your goal is to minimize the inevitable increase in rush-hour car traffic
> that accompanies new housing then it seems paradoxical to support housing
> where people have no choice but to drive for every trip.
>
> In the short term, putting housing units in places that allow residents to
> walk to stores and take a bus or train to work reduces traffic even if it
> only starts off 

Re: [LincolnTalk] HCA & Codman Road

[Barbara Low]

One question is for what funds would we become ineligible if we do not comply. 
The initial funds were monies we never got anyway. Then Andrea Campbell listed 
several other state funding sources that would be unavailable to communities 
that do not comply. Is that true? Is that legal? And what is happening to the 
law suit filed by the other town? This is information we need to make an 
informed choice.

From: Lincoln  on behalf of maureen 

Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2023 2:14 PM
To: Robert Ahlert ; Carl Angiolillo 
; Lincoln Talk 
Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] HCA & Codman Road

I agree with including "Not Comply" as an option to vote on.  What do we gain 
by rushing to comply with the state's guidelines?  Has anyone done a real 
cost-benefit analysis for Lincoln residents if we increase census to these 
numbers--including increased costs for services such as fire,  police, 
ambulance, and roads?  What do we lose from the state regarding funding if we 
do not comply or delay compliance at this time?
What will be the costs of increased taxes to an already burdened town?  What do 
we lose in property values if we destroy what makes Lincoln special--the 
conservation land, hiking trails, wildlife, farmlands, less traffic, and lower 
housing density?  We still will not gain from affordable housing.

My husband and I would vote "No Comply"!!

Maureen Malin and Chuck Kaman
On 10/25/2023 9:08 AM EDT Robert Ahlert  wrote:


Thanks Carl, as always your intentions are noble.

And I think this is fundamentally what people need to decide for themselves and 
not have the HCAWG making decisions for the people.  I have been and am still 
advocating for 5-7 options at the Dec 'Sense of the Town'.

Here is how I personally would lay out the options (feel free to disagree, 
anyone, please) ...

1. Full S. Lincoln - current Option C
2. 80/20 S. Lincoln + other current Multi-family area
3. 50/50 S. Lincoln + other current Multi-family area
4. 20/80 S. Lincoln + other current Multi-family areas (what i have been 
proposing, not yet included in any Options by HCAWG including the "Ds")
5. Full other current Multi-family areas
6. No Comply

I ask everyone to write to the Selects and discuss with their neighbors and 
friends to open this process back up and to let some other voices into the 
HCAWG!

Also please start paying attention to the Max Units calculations as show in our 
town's submission to the State using Option C.  Once developer's get control 
'by right', I'm not sure own town is prepared to defend itself.  More to come 
...

Rob

On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 8:33 AM Carl Angiolillo 
mailto:carlangioli...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Rob, I'm glad we're in alignment about focusing on areas of existing density 
and infrastructure. Several of the options you and the group proposed seem 
promising. One remaining point of disagreement is how much to value walkability 
and proximity to transit when comparing options. I don't think we need to 
become Switzerland or turn back the clock 100 years or for anyone to live an 
environmentally-friendly car-free life for that to be worth prioritizing.

> the Route 2 corridor by far makes the most sense

Route 2 can certainly support much higher volumes of car traffic than Lincoln 
road but it's not an infinite traffic sink. Regional traffic including on Route 
2 is increasing and Boston apparently now number four in the world for 
congestion ref https://inrix.com/scorecard/. Especially if neighboring towns 
similarly zone for car-dependent developments then driving commutes will 
continue to get worse -- not just on Lincoln Road but on Route 2 and elsewhere. 
I'm definitely not opposed to analyzing the impact on specific hotspots like 
five corners, just pointing out that if your goal is to minimize the inevitable 
increase in rush-hour car traffic that accompanies new housing then it seems 
paradoxical to support housing where people have no choice but to drive for 
every trip.

In the short term, putting housing units in places that allow residents to walk 
to stores and take a bus or train to work reduces traffic even if it only 
starts off displacing 10% of car trips compared to a similar quantity of 
housing along Route 2. And in the longer term, even if you believe that the 
displacement will be negligible today, this provides a safety release valve 
that allows additional trips to shift to alternate modes as regional traffic 
gets worse (likely) or walkability/transit gets better (maybe).

That's why resigning ourselves to car-dependent development in an attempt to 
minimize traffic in a specific neighborhood or intersection seems penny wise 
and pound foolish to me. Even if it makes the local impact less acute it makes 
the broader problem more entrenched and when we repeatedly apply this logic 
across towns and generations we end up in a tragedy of the commons with traffic 
backing up at five corners anyway. Avoiding that fate requires a coordinated 

Re: [LincolnTalk] HCA & Codman Road

[maureen]

I agree with including "Not Comply" as an option to vote on.  What do we gain 
by rushing to comply with the state's guidelines?  Has anyone done a real 
cost-benefit analysis for Lincoln residents if we increase census to these 
numbers--including increased costs for services such as fire,  police, 
ambulance, and roads?  What do we lose from the state regarding funding if we 
do not comply or delay compliance at this time?  
What will be the costs of increased taxes to an already burdened town?  What do 
we lose in property values if we destroy what makes Lincoln special--the 
conservation land, hiking trails, wildlife, farmlands, less traffic, and lower 
housing density?  We still will not gain from affordable housing.
 
My husband and I would vote "No Comply"!!
 
Maureen Malin and Chuck Kaman

> On 10/25/2023 9:08 AM EDT Robert Ahlert  wrote:
>  
>  
> Thanks Carl, as always your intentions are noble.
>  
> And I think this is fundamentally what people need to decide for themselves 
> and not have the HCAWG making decisions for the people.  I have been and am 
> still advocating for 5-7 options at the Dec 'Sense of the Town'.  
>  
> Here is how I personally would lay out the options (feel free to disagree, 
> anyone, please) ...
>  
> 1. Full S. Lincoln - current Option C
> 2. 80/20 S. Lincoln + other current Multi-family area
> 3. 50/50 S. Lincoln + other current Multi-family area
> 4. 20/80 S. Lincoln + other current Multi-family areas (what i have been 
> proposing, not yet included in any Options by HCAWG including the "Ds")
> 5. Full other current Multi-family areas
> 6. No Comply
>  
> I ask everyone to write to the Selects and discuss with their neighbors and 
> friends to open this process back up and to let some other voices into the 
> HCAWG!
>  
> Also please start paying attention to the Max Units calculations as show in 
> our town's submission to the State using Option C.  Once developer's get 
> control 'by right', I'm not sure own town is prepared to defend itself.  More 
> to come ...
>  
> Rob
> 
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 8:33 AM Carl Angiolillo  mailto:carlangioli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Rob, I'm glad we're in alignment about focusing on areas of existing 
> > density and infrastructure. Several of the options you and the group 
> > proposed seem promising. One remaining point of disagreement is how much to 
> > value walkability and proximity to transit when comparing options. I don't 
> > think we need to become Switzerland or turn back the clock 100 years or for 
> > anyone to live an environmentally-friendly car-free life for that to be 
> > worth prioritizing.
> >  
> > > the Route 2 corridor by far makes the most sense
> >  
> > Route 2 can certainly support much higher volumes of car traffic than 
> > Lincoln road but it's not an infinite traffic sink. Regional traffic 
> > including on Route 2 is increasing and Boston apparently now number four in 
> > the world for congestion ref https://inrix.com/scorecard/. Especially if 
> > neighboring towns similarly zone for car-dependent developments then 
> > driving commutes will continue to get worse -- not just on Lincoln Road but 
> > on Route 2 and elsewhere. I'm definitely not opposed to analyzing the 
> > impact on specific hotspots like five corners, just pointing out that if 
> > your goal is to minimize the inevitable increase in rush-hour car traffic 
> > that accompanies new housing then it seems paradoxical to support housing 
> > where people have no choice but to drive for every trip.
> >  
> > In the short term, putting housing units in places that allow residents to 
> > walk to stores and take a bus or train to work reduces traffic even if it 
> > only starts off displacing 10% of car trips compared to a similar quantity 
> > of housing along Route 2. And in the longer term, even if you believe that 
> > the displacement will be negligible today, this provides a safety release 
> > valve that allows additional trips to shift to alternate modes as regional 
> > traffic gets worse (likely) or walkability/transit gets better (maybe).
> >  
> > That's why resigning ourselves to car-dependent development in an attempt 
> > to minimize traffic in a specific neighborhood or intersection seems penny 
> > wise and pound foolish to me. Even if it makes the local impact less acute 
> > it makes the broader problem more entrenched and when we repeatedly apply 
> > this logic across towns and generations we end up in a tragedy of the 
> > commons with traffic backing up at five corners anyway. Avoiding that fate 
> > requires a coordinated long-term response which is why I'm in favor of 
> > prioritizing housing where people have more options.
> >  
> > > Remember from the Village Center survey, people don't want that density 
> > > near L. Station
> >  
> > This makes it sound as if a majority of respondents opposed density in 
> > Lincoln Station, but as per your screenshot two-thirds of respondents felt 
> > that 

[LincolnTalk] Looking to Hire a Photography Assistant - $25/Hour

[Corey Flint]

Hi Everyone,

I'm hoping to hire someone local with weekend availability to assist me
during my family photo sessions over the next few weeks, starting this
coming weekend.

The work would involve carrying some moderately heavy equipment and pulling
a cart over uneven terrain, but otherwise would just require someone that
is punctual, can pay attention, and can follow simple instructions. No
prior experience is necessary.

It's possible that responsibilities in the future could broaden to include
things like photo editing, social media management, and/or delivery of
finished artwork, but for now I really just need an extra hand during
shoots.

I would prefer to hire a person that is interested in learning about
photography, and as a former vocational counselor, would give special
consideration to someone with barriers to traditional employment
opportunities. Pay is $25 per hour with jobs typically lasting 2-4 hours.

If you or someone you know are interested, please let me know via email or
phone at 617-319-3913. To see some of my work you can visit
www.coreyflint.com.

Thank you!

- Corey Flint Photography
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Window cleaners

[Alice Waugh]

Hi Adele,

You can see several window cleaners who have been recommended on
LincolnTalk by clicking the blue "LincolnTalk recommendations" link at the
top right of the Lincoln Squirrel  home
page at www.lincolnsquirrel.com (no subscription required). Here is a
direct link:


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Alice Waugh

Editor, The Lincoln Squirrel  and The
Lincoln Chipmunk 

lincolnsquirreln...@gmail.com

617-710-5542 (mobile)

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On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 6:02 PM Adele Harvey 
wrote:

> I am looking for window a cleaner for both indide and outside work.
> Thank you, in advance for any suggestions.
>
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[LincolnTalk] Join us for Recovering Lost Voices: November 12th, 4:00-5:00pm

[Abigail Adams via Lincoln]

Join us for Recovering Lost Voices: November 12th, 4:00-5:00pm




Join us for a special talk at the Codman Estate’s Carriage House with Jen 
Turner of The Robbins House  as we explore an important and often overlooked 
part of the history in Lincoln, MA — the lives of people who worked this land, 
many of whom did so without choice. This lecture is part of Codman Community 
Farms' 50th Anniversary Year events and we are grateful for the opportunity to 
learn more about the people that helped create the farm we so value. All are 
welcome, and we hope to see you! Light nibbles and drinks will be served. 




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SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 12, 20234:00 PM - 5:00 PM
58 CODMAN ROAD LINCOLN, MA, 01773 UNITED STATES (MAP)

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[LincolnTalk] ISO Ebay sellers in town

[Margaret P Flint]

Is there anyone in Lincoln who sells on Ebay who would be interested in 
furniture, china, glassware, linens?  Do you sell on commission?  Thank you!
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[LincolnTalk] Wildlife Will Be Indebted to You

[Barbara Peskin]

Dear Lincoln,
It sounds like a number of people at SOTT that voted for Option C are now
reconsidering whether it should even be on the table given the other viable
options. Some have expressed they didn't have a clear understanding at
SOTT. If you are one of those people who would not have voted for rezoning
to make way for the clear cutting of 11 lots on Codman Road for 180 condo
units and 360 cars, had you understood the other options, please consider
emailing the Selectman asking them not to include Option C at the December
2 straw poll. This web page lists the Selectman's individual contacts
http://www.lincolntown.org/158/Select-Board.

The wildlife living in and depending on the habitat on Codman Rd will be
indebted to you.




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[LincolnTalk] Knife/Tool Sharpening

[theshop]

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Re: [LincolnTalk] Roof Repair

[Margo Fisher-Martin]

Maurice Richards was excellent. In August, he did three separate
roof-related repairs for us, including a new skylight - all in one day!
Impressive.
508-485-7332
I highly recommend his company.
Best,
Cookie Martin

On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 7:42 PM Beverly Bowman 
wrote:

>
> Roofers Edge & Siding
> Natick
> 508 650 4995
> Highly recommend.  Excellent work on my roof.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 23, 2023, at 10:27 AM, sarah cannon holden <
> sarahcannonhol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Does anyone have a suggestion for roof repairs?  We have a couple of
> missing shingles and a leak.
> >
> > Sarah
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Re: [LincolnTalk] HCA & Codman Road

[Robert Ahlert]

Thanks Carl, as always your intentions are noble.

And I think this is fundamentally what people need to decide for themselves
and not have the HCAWG making decisions for the people.  I have been and am
still advocating for 5-7 options at the Dec 'Sense of the Town'.

Here is how I personally would lay out the options (feel free to disagree,
anyone, please) ...

1. Full S. Lincoln - current Option C
2. 80/20 S. Lincoln + other current Multi-family area
3. 50/50 S. Lincoln + other current Multi-family area
4. 20/80 S. Lincoln + other current Multi-family areas (what i have been
proposing, not yet included in any Options by HCAWG including the "Ds")
5. Full other current Multi-family areas
6. No Comply

I ask everyone to write to the Selects and discuss with their neighbors and
friends to open this process back up and to let some other voices into the
HCAWG!

Also please start paying attention to the Max Units calculations as show in
our town's submission to the State using Option C.  Once developer's get
control 'by right', I'm not sure own town is prepared to defend itself.
More to come ...

Rob

On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 8:33 AM Carl Angiolillo 
wrote:

> Rob, I'm glad we're in alignment about focusing on areas of existing
> density and infrastructure. Several of the options you and the group
> proposed seem promising. One remaining point of disagreement is how much to
> value walkability and proximity to transit when comparing options. I don't
> think we need to become Switzerland or turn back the clock 100 years or for
> anyone to live an environmentally-friendly car-free life for that to be
> worth prioritizing.
>
> > the Route 2 corridor by far makes the most sense
>
> Route 2 can certainly support much higher volumes of car traffic than
> Lincoln road but it's not an infinite traffic sink. Regional traffic
> including on Route 2 is increasing and Boston apparently now number four in
> the world for congestion ref https://inrix.com/scorecard/. Especially if
> neighboring towns similarly zone for car-dependent developments then
> driving commutes will continue to get worse -- not just on Lincoln Road but
> on Route 2 and elsewhere. I'm definitely not opposed to analyzing the
> impact on specific hotspots like five corners, just pointing out that if
> your goal is to minimize the inevitable increase in rush-hour car traffic
> that accompanies new housing then it seems paradoxical to support housing
> where people have no choice but to drive for every trip.
>
> In the short term, putting housing units in places that allow residents to
> walk to stores and take a bus or train to work reduces traffic even if it
> only starts off displacing 10% of car trips compared to a similar quantity
> of housing along Route 2. And in the longer term, even if you believe that
> the displacement will be negligible today, this provides a safety
> release valve that allows additional trips to shift to alternate modes as
> regional traffic gets worse (likely) or walkability/transit gets
> better (maybe).
>
> That's why resigning ourselves to car-dependent development in an attempt
> to minimize traffic in a specific neighborhood or intersection seems penny
> wise and pound foolish to me. Even if it makes the local impact less acute
> it makes the broader problem more entrenched and when we repeatedly apply
> this logic across towns and generations we end up in a tragedy of the
> commons with traffic backing up at five corners anyway. Avoiding that fate
> requires a coordinated long-term response which is why I'm in favor of
> prioritizing housing where people have more options.
>
> > Remember from the Village Center survey, people don't want that density
> near L. Station
>
> This makes it sound as if a majority of respondents opposed density in
> Lincoln Station, but as per your screenshot two-thirds of respondents felt
> that greater density there was an important or neutral priority which I
> interpret to mean they either actively want it or don't care, so it seems
> like at most one third were opposed. Further, some of those opposed
> respondents might be equally opposed to the other HCA options so I'm not
> sure this survey data provides enough information to support or reject any
> specific option.
>
> I really do appreciate your hard work in coordinating alternative options
> for the town to discuss though, and hopefully we have the chance to get
> more feedback at upcoming meetings.
>
> Carl
>
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 6:04 PM William Broughton 
> wrote:
>
>> I agree. I think the "Option C" as presented is problematic in many ways
>> - potential negative impacts on: environment, wildlife, affordable housing,
>> traffic, pollution, town infrastructure, taxes, etc.
>>
>> There needs to be more discussion and input, and frankly with the HCA
>> guidelines changing multiple times, the limited community input received 6,
>> 9, or 12 months ago is irrelevant at this point.
>>
>> I hope that the HCAWG and its consultants 

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[LincolnTalk] Fwd: Available: Beekeeping operation

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Posting for Tal. His hives are on our Winter Street property.

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> From: Tal Reichert 
> Date: October 23, 2023 at 4:30:41 PM EDT
> To: Heather Silvestro 
> Subject: Available: Beekeeping operation
> 
> 
> I am a beekeeper with six hives on a property in Lincoln. I have decided this 
> was my last season of beekeeping and had someone who was interested in taking 
> over the hives, but unfortunately they backed out at the last moment.
> 
> The hives are hosted on a residential property in Lincoln. The property owner 
> is extremely pro-bee and is not asking for anything in return (I have given 
> them free honey every year as a token of gratitude).
> 
> I am not asking for a payment for the hives or the bees. Having said that, I 
> have some additional equipment which I am looking to sell as well. If taken 
> over by a newbee, I will be available to answer questions or mentoring 
> (though I would recommend taking a proper bee-school).
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Tal Reichert
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Engineering Science Data for HCA MDU Devopment?

[Margaret Olson]

Jeffrey,
The engineering studies required by wetlands protection, stormwater
management, board of health, and other regulations would be the
responsibility of any developer proposing a building. This is no different
from a single family house in the majority of the town where a single
family house is the "by right" use. Zoning controls what can be built
assuming the proposed building complies with all other regulations. For
example, our single family zoning in most of the town is 80,000 sq feet.
That does not mean that a house can be built on any arbitrary 80,000 sq
foot parcel - wetlands and a lack of land suitable for septic may rule out
building anything on the lot.

Margaret

On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 12:03 AM Jeffrey  wrote:

> As a late comer to the town's HCA MDU discussion, I would first like to
> thank so many townspeople for their comments and explanations of the
> Commonwealth's legislation, regulations, intentions, and possible failures
> from an "Always Do The RIght Thing" point of view. Also, to those who
> pointed out wildlife corridors, future traffic management problems,the
> offensive idea that 10% affordable housing is acceptable, etc. I thank you.
> My questions below are based on the fact that I am not educated on all the
> options but I am assuming that the MDU development is focused on Codman
> Road, behind Codman Road, and perhaps a jump over the Public Works lot and
> the rail tracks to the small mall at the train station.
>
> So I apologize in advance if all that follows has already been discussed
> and settled:
> > Is the proposed MDU development trivial, or non-problematic from an
> engineering perspective? That is, do we have up to date topological
> (e.g.geo/hydrological mapping, etc.) that demonstrates that the proposed
> development is rather a simple matter of perc testing per lot area, etc.
> > In that vein, are we certain that the proposed development will have no
> effect on the very close downstrream wetlands and will not require a
> storm water management plan?
>
> I will end here for now in order not to make matters too complicated. But
> I will say one thing so no one in Lincoln assumes that my questions are
> obstructionist or "NIMBY"
> We are witnessing local eco-system catastrophic failures heretofore not
> seen. Failures not based on "once-in-a-century" events such as catastrophic
> floods, earthquakes, etc. Based rather, on tiny permutations in biochemical
> changes in soil, etc. I can add more once I hear responses from the
> experts in Lincoln who  are on committees or working with whatever paid
> consultants the town has hired.
> Respectfully, Jeffrey Lukowsky
>
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