Re: How Can We Help to Make this Happen?
On Sat, Jan 20, 2007, Diego Iastrubni wrote about Re: How Can We Help to Make this Happen?: The hebrew spelling is tied up with the Hebrew UI? Can't I have it with some other language...? Like English? No, it is definitely not tied to the Hebrew UI. I'm not sure what exactly that Hebrew language pack contains, but nothing in the UI appears to change. Perhaps it gives you later an option to choose the Hebrew UI, but I don't know how, and I never tried that. I don't know whether other distributions besides Fedora have such a OpenOffice language packs, but if they don't (they should...), you still have the option to use OpenOffice to download the Hebrew dictionary for you (a single user) automatically, through its menus (don't ask me how - I don't rember the exact menu, try it yourself if you're interested. -- Nadav Har'El| Sunday, Jan 21 2007, 2 Shevat 5767 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |If you lost your left arm, your right arm http://nadav.harel.org.il |would be left. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reminder: Telux: Running Linux on an ARM 7 Board Today
This is a reminder that the Tel Aviv Linux Club ( http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/telux/ ) will gather *today* ( Sunday, 21-January-2007 ) to hear Ori Idan talk about Running Linux on an ARM 7 board. The presentation will take place at 18:30, in Shenkar 222 (Physics and Astronomy building) in Tel Aviv University. More information can be found on the site: http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/telux/ The attendance is free and everyone are welcome to attend. Regards, Shlomi Fish -- Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ If his programming is anything like his philosophising, he would find 10 imaginary bugs in the Hello World program. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why are GNOME applications (and applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?
Hi, Gnome clock applet is not a clock, but a huge process with evolution data server and client code involved. You are talking about its menus. Take into account that these are evolution menus. If you click on the GNOME clock applet, calendar appears. If you double click on a day in the calendar, evolution appears. - Moshe Gorohovsky. Oded Arbel wrote: On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 22:40 +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote: Let's compare a few clock applications: app VIRTRES NOTE xdaliclock 3756796 oclock 36321540 xclock 85442976 kclock.kss 25840 8164 clock-applet (Gnome) 90212 11256 (only the applet process) clock_panelapplet (KDE) 33664 12028 (for kicker with only a clock applet) Hardly fair - Kicker does tons of stuff even when no applet is loaded - its the entire panel mechanism (including the main menu, or without ?). If you want to compare apples and apples, you should compare your KDE figure with the sum of gnome's clock applet and gnome-panel (entirely - everything that is painted on the gnome-panel is out-of-process). Trying to understand where Gnome's clock-applet's huge VIRT comes from, I discovered something very interesting. It start with just 28 MB of VIRT, but at the moment you right-click on the clock, and a menu pops up, it grows to, belive it or not - 90 MB. That's 60 MB to show a menu !? I diffed the /proc/../maps, and this is what the extra 60 MB contain: 0.5 MB of newly allocated memory, plus a lot of mapped files; One interesting mapped file is the HUGE /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/icon-theme.cache, taking up 28 MB of mapped space! I'll check some of the other suspects to see whats in their mappings. Funny enough, gnome-system-monitor has a UI for /proc/../maps, which - if I'm reading it correctly - shows that Evolution with a relatively small VIRT of 500MB maps over 200MB of it as writable memory. Just as a comparison, that 200MB is almost twice as the entire VIRT size of KMail. -- Oded ::.. Learning is what most adults will do for a living in the 21st century. -- Perelman = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Moshe Gorohovsky A6 CC A7 E1 C2 BD 8C 1B 30 8E A4 C3 4C 09 88 47 Tk Open Systems Ltd. --- - tel: +972.2.679.5364, http://www.tkos.co.il - = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How Can We Help to Make this Happen?
On 21/01/07, Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jan 20, 2007, Diego Iastrubni wrote about Re: How Can We Help to Make this Happen?: The hebrew spelling is tied up with the Hebrew UI? Can't I have it with some other language...? Like English? No, it is definitely not tied to the Hebrew UI. I'm not sure what exactly that Hebrew language pack contains, but nothing in the UI appears to change. Perhaps it gives you later an option to choose the Hebrew UI, but I don't know how, and I never tried that. I don't know whether other distributions besides Fedora have such a OpenOffice language packs, but if they don't (they should...), you still have the option to use OpenOffice to download the Hebrew dictionary for you (a single user) automatically, through its menus (don't ask me how - I don't rember the exact menu, try it yourself if you're interested. The only time that I've ever seen OOo with a Hebrew interface was today when I installed FC6 with the Distro's Hebrew language pack. Every time that I've selected Hebrew from the options I've wound up with a half-German half-English interface. And this Hebrew build of OOo has the wizard to install dictionaries removed and no Hebrew dictionary. In any case, the one time that I tried to file a bug in OOo I discovered that there is a seperate Hebrew bugzilla for it. Not an interface but a whole seperate bugzilla. I didn't check to see if it deals only with Hebrew-related issues as I didn't file the bug in the end. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/skype.html http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/lyrics/100/321/madonna/something_to_remember.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How Can We Help to Make this Happen?
On Sun, Jan 21, 2007, Dotan Cohen wrote about Re: How Can We Help to Make this Happen?: The only time that I've ever seen OOo with a Hebrew interface was today when I installed FC6 with the Distro's Hebrew language pack. I am using Fedora Core 6, and the OpenOffice Hebrew language-pack package, and I did *not* get a Hebrew interface, not a half-German half-English interface, and not anything broken of this sort - I just get nicely working Hebrew spellchecking (using data from Hspell 1.0) in a nice English UI, as usual... So I wonder what we did differently. Every time that I've selected Hebrew from the options I've wound up with a half-German half-English interface. And this Hebrew build of OOo has the wizard to install dictionaries removed and no Hebrew dictionary. The Hebrew language pack does not install a Hebrew build, just some data, so I don't understand why it would remove the dictionary installation wizard. Also, like I said, it *does* install a Hebrew dictionary (just look at what the RPM contains), and it does work for me, so I wonder what's different on your machine. -- Nadav Har'El| Sunday, Jan 21 2007, 2 Shevat 5767 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |Happiness isn't getting what you want, http://nadav.harel.org.il |it's wanting what you've got. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hebrew morphological search
Does anyone know a working free/opensource implementation of full text morphological search in hebrew. Searching google results in a few results non of them seems maintained.
Using culmus fonts within Inkscape
Hi, I am having this strange problem with Inkscape, couldn't find anything on the net about it. Using culmus fonts, certain fonts just insist on staying bold style. When I choose medium style and click apply in the font selection dialog - they just become bold. This goes for ComixNo2 CLM and David CLM (maybe some more, I didn't check them all). Checking other apps, like OpenOffice, Gimp, I do get the thinner version of the font, but not within Inkscape. Has anyone seen anything similar? Thanks, --yuval
Re: Hebrew morphological search
On Sun, Jan 21, 2007, Elazar Leibovich wrote about Hebrew morphological search: Does anyone know a working free/opensource implementation of full text morphological search in hebrew. Searching google results in a few results non of them seems maintained. Hspell [1] has a morphological analyzer (a demo of which you can see in [2]), with which you can build morphological search. With a bit more digging into what Hspell contains, you can do other things, like query expansion (when you search for some noun, the query word is replaced by all its inflection). This is what the 2find search engine used, or at least planned to use (see [3]). [1] Hspell - http://ivrix.org.il/projects/spell-checker/ [2] Hspell morphology demo - http://www.cs.technion.ac.il/~danken/cgi-bin/hspell.cgi [3] 2find - http://www.2find.co.il/?ty=technologysh=6 -- Nadav Har'El| Sunday, Jan 21 2007, 2 Shevat 5767 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |I am logged in, therefore I am. http://nadav.harel.org.il | = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hebrew morphological search
I was looking for a more complete solution which already searches for morphological hebrew occurrences in database, or that incorporates in indexing solutions such as Apache's lucence or mysql's FULLTEXT search. On 1/21/07, Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jan 21, 2007, Elazar Leibovich wrote about Hebrew morphological search: Does anyone know a working free/opensource implementation of full text morphological search in hebrew. Searching google results in a few results non of them seems maintained. Hspell [1] has a morphological analyzer (a demo of which you can see in [2]), with which you can build morphological search. With a bit more digging into what Hspell contains, you can do other things, like query expansion (when you search for some noun, the query word is replaced by all its inflection). This is what the 2find search engine used, or at least planned to use (see [3]). [1] Hspell - http://ivrix.org.il/projects/spell-checker/ [2] Hspell morphology demo - http://www.cs.technion.ac.il/~danken/cgi-bin/hspell.cgi [3] 2find - http://www.2find.co.il/?ty=technologysh=6 -- Nadav Har'El| Sunday, Jan 21 2007, 2 Shevat 5767 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |I am logged in, therefore I am. http://nadav.harel.org.il |
Re: Why are GNOME applications (and applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?
On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 10:44 +0200, Moshe Gorohovsky wrote: Hi, Gnome clock applet is not a clock, but a huge process with evolution data server and client code involved. You are talking about its menus. Take into account that these are evolution menus. If you click on the GNOME clock applet, calendar appears. If you double click on a day in the calendar, evolution appears. The KDE clock applet is similar. evo-data-server is out-of-process, but the kde clock also has korganizer client code, and when you click on it you get a calendar as well. Still there's not much reason for the GNOME clock to be so much larger then the KDE clock applet. -- Oded ::.. I wish Lucas Co. would get the thing going a little faster. I can't really imagine waiting until 1997 to see all nine parts of the Star Wars series. -- Randal L. Schwartz (at 1982 on usenet) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cloning my laptop's HD over the network (LG T1 Express)
On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 12:02:57AM +0200, Chaim Keren Tzion wrote: BTW, did you try Knoppix instead of g4l? Also note that the partition-copying that g4l does is done by partimage. partimage is included in several other live CDs. And then again there are the methods of tar | nc --- nc | tar (or ssh insead, of dd instead of tar, or whatever). -- Tzafrir Cohen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's [EMAIL PROTECTED] || best ICQ# 16849755 || friend t = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why are GNOME applications (and applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?
You are right, GNOME clock consumes too much memory for its tasks. Briefly checking clock.c (http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnome-panel/trunk/applets/clock/clock.c?rev=10182view=markup) I can not see a reason for this memory consumption. The calls to evolution code and the evolution data usage seems to be encapsulated by well-organized code. - Moshe Gorohovsky Oded Arbel wrote: On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 10:44 +0200, Moshe Gorohovsky wrote: Hi, Gnome clock applet is not a clock, but a huge process with evolution data server and client code involved. You are talking about its menus. Take into account that these are evolution menus. If you click on the GNOME clock applet, calendar appears. If you double click on a day in the calendar, evolution appears. The KDE clock applet is similar. evo-data-server is out-of-process, but the kde clock also has korganizer client code, and when you click on it you get a calendar as well. Still there's not much reason for the GNOME clock to be so much larger then the KDE clock applet. -- Oded ::.. I wish Lucas Co. would get the thing going a little faster. I can't really imagine waiting until 1997 to see all nine parts of the Star Wars series. -- Randal L. Schwartz (at 1982 on usenet) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Moshe Gorohovsky A6 CC A7 E1 C2 BD 8C 1B 30 8E A4 C3 4C 09 88 47 Tk Open Systems Ltd. --- - tel: +972.2.679.5364, http://www.tkos.co.il - = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Swiftfox for Duo Core 2
Dotan Cohen wrote: Swiftfox (firefox builds optimized for a paricular processor) are available for these processors: * Pentium 4 * Pentium M * Pentium 3 * Pentium 3M * Pentium 2 * Prescott * Celeron (Willamette, Northwood, Celeron D) * Celeron M * Celeron (Coppermine, Tualatin) Which one should I choose if I've got an Intell Duo Core 2 proccessor? Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/microsoft.html http://english-lyrics.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you mean Intel Core Duo, you should use Pentium M. -- Moshe Gorohovsky A6 CC A7 E1 C2 BD 8C 1B 30 8E A4 C3 4C 09 88 47 Tk Open Systems Ltd. --- - tel: +972.2.679.5364, http://www.tkos.co.il - = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How Can We Help to Make this Happen?
On Sunday, 21 בJanuary 2007 11:50, Nadav Har'El wrote: I am using Fedora Core 6, and the OpenOffice Hebrew language-pack package, and I did *not* get a Hebrew interface, not a half-German half-English interface, and not anything broken of this sort - I just get nicely working Hebrew spellchecking (using data from Hspell 1.0) in a nice English UI, as usual... So I wonder what we did differently. The bug is noticed in FC5 (openoffice.org-core-2.0.2-5.20.2) (not in FC6) When trying to use the Hebrew *interface* Example: env LANG=he_IL oowriter At this level it looks OK -- mostly English menus with some items (e.g: File/Quit) translated to Hebrew (probably by Gnome/Gtk+ widgets). However, try to look at OO.o specific dialogs (e.g: Format/Character) and you'll see that all the untranslated labels are in German. Again, in FC6 (openoffice.org-core-2.0.4-5.5.10) the same test results in a very nice Hebrew UI. -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron ICQ UIN: 16527398 #define NULL 0 /* silly thing is, we don't even use this */ --Larry Wall in perl.c from the perl source code = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Swiftfox for Duo Core 2
On 21/01/07, Moshe Gorohovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you mean Intel Core Duo, you should use Pentium M. Actually, it is Prescott as Muli had hinted. I found a post on the Swiftfox forums where the guy who builds them suggested the prescott build. Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/463/sting.html http://kitha.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kernel question
Hi, It's been a while since I compiled a kernel for my Linux machines, so I grabbed kernel 2.6.19.2, compiled and installed it. The only problem: I didn't check exactly about the memory mechanism (CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G) to use (I used off instead of 4GB). After seeing that the kernel can only see 1GB of RAM instead of my 2GB RAM, I fixed the configuration, recompiled and now I can see the whole memory. (BTW: If you're using RHEL 4 update 4 or CentOS 4.4 on your workstation with VMWare, prepare for some nasty surprise: HAL crashes with any kernel which is about 2.6.15, so if you're using sound with your guest OS, prepare for some serious slowdown until you remove the sound device. It also fucks up vlc and anything that touches HAL daemon. In order to fix this, you'll need to compile and install at least 13 packages. have fun). So, my question is: Why doesn't the kernel automatically select which High memory support to use? After all, if I have 1GB RAM, then it should use the Off. If I have 1GB and =4GB, then it should use the 4GB option, and if I have 4GB, and the 64GB option. The BIOS already tells the machine how much RAM the machine has, so why the requirement is there? Thanks, Hetz -- Skepticism is the lazy person's default position. Visit my blog (hebrew) for things that (sometimes) matter: http://wp.dad-answers.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel question
On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 01:31:15AM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: So, my question is: Why doesn't the kernel automatically select which High memory support to use? After all, if I have 1GB RAM, then it should use the Off. If I have 1GB and =4GB, then it should use the 4GB option, and if I have 4GB, and the 64GB option. There's a slight performance cost to selecting the higher options, so the kernel let's you choose how to make the tradeoff between performance and compatibility with more memory. There's no way to make this tradeoff automatically - only you know if you're building this kernel for an embedded i386 board with no high mem or for 32GB machine. Cheers, Muli = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Swiftfox for Duo Core 2
Hi, According to http://mikeshardware.co.uk/CPURoadmap.htm, Pentium M is a successor to Prescott on mobile platforms. Core Duo is a successor to Pentium M. Core Duo 2 is a successor to Core Duo. What to choose for gcc's -march flag on Core Duo 2 ? - Moshe Gorohovsky Dotan Cohen wrote: On 21/01/07, Moshe Gorohovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you mean Intel Core Duo, you should use Pentium M. Actually, it is Prescott as Muli had hinted. I found a post on the Swiftfox forums where the guy who builds them suggested the prescott build. Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/463/sting.html http://kitha.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Moshe Gorohovsky A6 CC A7 E1 C2 BD 8C 1B 30 8E A4 C3 4C 09 88 47 Tk Open Systems Ltd. --- - tel: +972.2.679.5364, http://www.tkos.co.il - = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can this be possible (or BIOS api)
Hello linux il , I had been playing with the idea of writing a small utility in C on linux which will enable me to change boot prioirity on a linux machine, so that I will be able to toggle the boot sequence (boot from CD/ not boot from CD). I mean the boot sequence which the BIOS saves in CMOS. This is a task which I do quite frequently by entering the BIOS. Is there an API which enable me to perform such a task ? Did anybody tried a thing like that ? and in case it is possible - how much complex is it ? Regards, DAN
