Re: Walla in Firefox

2007-07-26 Thread Dotan Cohen

On 26/07/07, Ori Idan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

As much as I know IE4Linux actually installs wine so it is the same as
installing wine and installing MSIE on top of it.



Yes, but it has it's own specific configuration. It's a rather nice
script, but I would not expect the wine community to support it. Just
install via the wine community's preferred method, then you can report
bugs.

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Re: Walla in Firefox

2007-07-26 Thread Ori Idan

As much as I know IE4Linux actually installs wine so it is the same as
installing wine and installing MSIE on top of it.

--
Ori Idan


On 7/26/07, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 25/07/07, Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You're lucky that you got so far. On my Mandriva Cooker system using
 wine-0.9.41-1mdv2008.0 , I cannot open a page using the location bar in
IE6
 (but I remember that I could in the past). It always displays h
instead,
 and tries to load it.

 Then when I got to open http://www.google.com/ using File - Open, MSIE
just
 thinks for a bit and then crashes into wine.

 Perhaps I should report it, but where?


To IE4Linux. If you can, install IE on Wine without IE4Linux, and test
if it works as expected. If not, then you can file a bug on Wine as
well.

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Re: Walla in Firefox

2007-07-26 Thread Dotan Cohen

On 25/07/07, Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You're lucky that you got so far. On my Mandriva Cooker system using
wine-0.9.41-1mdv2008.0 , I cannot open a page using the location bar in IE6
(but I remember that I could in the past). It always displays h instead,
and tries to load it.

Then when I got to open http://www.google.com/ using File - Open, MSIE just
thinks for a bit and then crashes into wine.

Perhaps I should report it, but where?



To IE4Linux. If you can, install IE on Wine without IE4Linux, and test
if it works as expected. If not, then you can file a bug on Wine as
well.

Dotan Cohen

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Re: Walla in Firefox

2007-07-25 Thread Shlomi Loubaton

On 7/25/07, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 24/07/07, Shlomi Loubaton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 7/23/07, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Just got around to test his - all IE's installed through IEs4Linux do
NOT allow typing Hebrew in walla. IE5.5 doesn't even render the New
Message page correctly, thus not allowing to type in anything in the
message content.
  Speaking of browser compatibility, p
 
  Does anyone know if this is a bug in Wine or is there a way to convince
it to support Hebrew typing?
 

 Typing Hebrew in Walla using IE4Linux works for me.

 In the past I had a similar problem and it was fixed once I realized I
 forgot to configure my 'locals' package. In Debian just execute
 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' and add the Hebrew locales. In Ubuntu:

 sudo sh -c 'echo he_IL.UTF-8 UTF-8 
/var/lib/locales/supported.d/local'
 sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales

 you should also add the following to your ~/.ies4linux/bin/ie6 file:
 LC_ALL=he_IL.UTF-8
 LANG=he_IL.UTF-8

I installed Hebrew fonts (culmus debian packagE) and configured the
locales for the ia32 environment but this didn't help - typed characters
appear as ?.
I then set the LC_ALL and LANG as you suggest above and it:
1. Caused the button labels in Hebrew to appear as ?
2. When pressing on the buton to go to the walla mail page IE6 explodes.

I'm not an expert about fonts and such but I suspect it's a matter of
somehow telling the application to use the right fonts for the encoding in
the page.


OK, here is another step I forgot to mention:
apt-get install msttcorefonts
cp /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/*.ttf
~/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/windows/fonts/

Although I think it wasn't really required to make it work for me.

Shlomil.

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Re: Walla in Firefox

2007-07-25 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Monday 23 July 2007, Amos Shapira wrote:
 On 19/07/07, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 19/07/07, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I don't have access to this installation any more. As far as I remember
   Hebrew worked well.
   I plan to install it on my new desktop in the near future (to test a
   web site, hopefully in a matter of days).
   Will try to get back to you when I have an answer.
 
  Thanks. I won't have a chance to try it for at least another month. If
  I get around to it before you, then I'll post my results for the
  curious.

 Just got around to test his - all IE's installed through IEs4Linux do NOT
 allow typing Hebrew in walla. IE5.5 doesn't even render the New Message
 page correctly, thus not allowing to type in anything in the message
 content.
 Speaking of browser compatibility, p

 Does anyone know if this is a bug in Wine or is there a way to convince it
 to support Hebrew typing?


You're lucky that you got so far. On my Mandriva Cooker system using 
wine-0.9.41-1mdv2008.0 , I cannot open a page using the location bar in IE6 
(but I remember that I could in the past). It always displays h instead, 
and tries to load it. 

Then when I got to open http://www.google.com/ using File - Open, MSIE just 
thinks for a bit and then crashes into wine.

Perhaps I should report it, but where?

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

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Re: Walla in Firefox

2007-07-24 Thread Shlomi Loubaton

On 7/23/07, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Just got around to test his - all IE's installed through IEs4Linux do NOT allow typing 
Hebrew in walla. IE5.5 doesn't even render the New Message page correctly, 
thus not allowing to type in anything in the message content.
Speaking of browser compatibility, p

Does anyone know if this is a bug in Wine or is there a way to convince it to 
support Hebrew typing?



Typing Hebrew in Walla using IE4Linux works for me.

In the past I had a similar problem and it was fixed once I realized I
forgot to configure my 'locals' package. In Debian just execute
'dpkg-reconfigure locales' and add the Hebrew locales. In Ubuntu:

sudo sh -c 'echo he_IL.UTF-8 UTF-8  /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local'
sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales

you should also add the following to your ~/.ies4linux/bin/ie6 file:
LC_ALL=he_IL.UTF-8
LANG=he_IL.UTF-8

BTW: I really hate using IE on Linux and do not encourage anyone to do
so. I use it only because my stupid bank force me to :,(


Regards,
Shlomil.

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Re: Walla in Firefox

2007-07-24 Thread Amos Shapira

On 24/07/07, Shlomi Loubaton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 7/23/07, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Just got around to test his - all IE's installed through IEs4Linux do
NOT allow typing Hebrew in walla. IE5.5 doesn't even render the New
Message page correctly, thus not allowing to type in anything in the
message content.
 Speaking of browser compatibility, p

 Does anyone know if this is a bug in Wine or is there a way to convince
it to support Hebrew typing?


Typing Hebrew in Walla using IE4Linux works for me.

In the past I had a similar problem and it was fixed once I realized I
forgot to configure my 'locals' package. In Debian just execute
'dpkg-reconfigure locales' and add the Hebrew locales. In Ubuntu:

sudo sh -c 'echo he_IL.UTF-8 UTF-8 
/var/lib/locales/supported.d/local'
sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales

you should also add the following to your ~/.ies4linux/bin/ie6 file:
LC_ALL=he_IL.UTF-8
LANG=he_IL.UTF-8



I installed Hebrew fonts (culmus debian packagE) and configured the
locales for the ia32 environment but this didn't help - typed characters
appear as ?.
I then set the LC_ALL and LANG as you suggest above and it:
1. Caused the button labels in Hebrew to appear as ?
2. When pressing on the buton to go to the walla mail page IE6 explodes.

I'm not an expert about fonts and such but I suspect it's a matter of
somehow telling the application to use the right fonts for the encoding in
the page.

BTW: I really hate using IE on Linux and do not encourage anyone to do

so. I use it only because my stupid bank force me to :,(



Same here. My current interest with IE is to test a web site I'm designing.

Cheers,

--Amos


Re: Walla in Firefox

2007-07-23 Thread Amos Shapira

On 19/07/07, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 19/07/07, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't have access to this installation any more. As far as I remember
 Hebrew worked well.
 I plan to install it on my new desktop in the near future (to test a web
 site, hopefully in a matter of days).
 Will try to get back to you when I have an answer.


Thanks. I won't have a chance to try it for at least another month. If
I get around to it before you, then I'll post my results for the
curious.



Just got around to test his - all IE's installed through IEs4Linux do NOT
allow typing Hebrew in walla. IE5.5 doesn't even render the New Message
page correctly, thus not allowing to type in anything in the message
content.
Speaking of browser compatibility, p

Does anyone know if this is a bug in Wine or is there a way to convince it
to support Hebrew typing?

--Amos


Re: Walla in Firefox

2007-07-19 Thread Dotan Cohen

On 19/07/07, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I don't have access to this installation any more. As far as I remember
Hebrew worked well.
I plan to install it on my new desktop in the near future (to test a web
site, hopefully in a matter of days).
Will try to get back to you when I have an answer.



Thanks. I won't have a chance to try it for at least another month. If
I get around to it before you, then I'll post my results for the
curious.

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Re: Walla in Firefox

2007-07-18 Thread Dvir Volk

I saw that new UI version, it is fashionably (late) AJAX based, and it does
support FireFox.

On 7/18/07, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 18/07/07, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 17/07/07, Tomer Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I got their promise for working version that will got live in two
 months.
  Let's hope to get it working in mid-August or September.
 
  See here - http://mozilla.org.il/board/viewtopic.php?t=5287
 

 Actually, I think that it _was_ working earlier this year.

 Lets continue to browse the site in Firefox, to keep the percentage
 up. That usually gets attention.


Or just stop using their site and go somewhere else, as I used to do.

I used to visit some of their forums years ago until it stopped working
with Firefox, so I moved on to more cooperative (or less uncooperative, in
Tapuz's case) sites.

--Amos



Re: Walla in Firefox

2007-07-18 Thread Dotan Cohen

On 18/07/07, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 18/07/07, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes, Walla has prevented people (at least two that I have helped) from
 switching to Ubuntu. And probably hundreds of others from switching to
 Firefox.

What about IEs4Linux (
http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page) as an
easy way to infect your Ubuntu with IE?

But I'm probably digressing, and your main point of keeping the Firefox hit
count on Walla's radar up might have merit.

Cheers,

--Amos




Last time I tried IE4Linux, the Hebrew support was terrible. Ugly
fonts, and no typing. Has that improved? What distro/desktop/locale
does it work well on?

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Re: Walla in Firefox

2007-07-18 Thread Amos Shapira

On 19/07/07, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Last time I tried IE4Linux, the Hebrew support was terrible. Ugly
fonts, and no typing. Has that improved? What distro/desktop/locale
does it work well on?



I installed it only on Debians (Sarge and Etch) and used it to surf Israeli
sites (they were the only ones which absolutely required IE).
I don't recall problems with the Hebrew fonts.

--Amos


Re: Walla in Firefox

2007-07-18 Thread Amos Shapira

On 19/07/07, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 19/07/07, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I installed it only on Debians (Sarge and Etch) and used it to surf
Israeli
 sites (they were the only ones which absolutely required IE).
 I don't recall problems with the Hebrew fonts.


And can you type in forms Hebrew? For instance, can you send mail from
Walla?



I don't have access to this installation any more. As far as I remember
Hebrew worked well.
I plan to install it on my new desktop in the near future (to test a web
site, hopefully in a matter of days).
Will try to get back to you when I have an answer.

--Amos


Re: Walla in Firefox

2007-07-17 Thread Dotan Cohen

On 17/07/07, Tomer Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I got their promise for working version that will got live in two months.
Let's hope to get it working in mid-August or September.

See here - http://mozilla.org.il/board/viewtopic.php?t=5287



Actually, I think that it _was_ working earlier this year.

Lets continue to browse the site in Firefox, to keep the percentage
up. That usually gets attention.

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Re: Walla in Firefox

2007-07-17 Thread Amos Shapira

On 18/07/07, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 17/07/07, Tomer Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I got their promise for working version that will got live in two
months.
 Let's hope to get it working in mid-August or September.

 See here - http://mozilla.org.il/board/viewtopic.php?t=5287


Actually, I think that it _was_ working earlier this year.

Lets continue to browse the site in Firefox, to keep the percentage
up. That usually gets attention.



Or just stop using their site and go somewhere else, as I used to do.

I used to visit some of their forums years ago until it stopped working with
Firefox, so I moved on to more cooperative (or less uncooperative, in
Tapuz's case) sites.

--Amos


Re: Walla in Firefox

2007-07-17 Thread Dotan Cohen

On 18/07/07, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Or just stop using their site and go somewhere else, as I used to do.

I used to visit some of their forums years ago until it stopped working with
Firefox, so I moved on to more cooperative (or less uncooperative, in
Tapuz's case) sites.



For personal use, yes. The problem is, that a _lot_ of people use
Walla and will not switch. They don't seem to understand that they
_can_ switch. And I they already have enough to deal with when
switching from XP to Ubuntu. Websites that don't work, and must be
abandoned, is hard for them to grasp.

Yes, Walla has prevented people (at least two that I have helped) from
switching to Ubuntu. And probably hundreds of others from switching to
Firefox.

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Re: Walla in Firefox

2007-07-17 Thread Amos Shapira

On 18/07/07, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Yes, Walla has prevented people (at least two that I have helped) from
switching to Ubuntu. And probably hundreds of others from switching to
Firefox.



What about IEs4Linux (http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page) as
an easy way to infect your Ubuntu with IE?

But I'm probably digressing, and your main point of keeping the Firefox hit
count on Walla's radar up might have merit.

Cheers,

--Amos


Walla in Firefox

2007-07-16 Thread Dotan Cohen

Can anybnody send mail inWalla Mail with firefox? All I get is a red
line when I hit Send. Thanks in advance.

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Re: Walla in Firefox

2007-07-16 Thread Dan Kenigsberg
I vaguely recall that years back, I had slightly better luck using their English
front-end (I think it was mail.walla.com)

On Mon, Jul 16, 2007 at 10:06:52PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
 Can anybnody send mail inWalla Mail with firefox? All I get is a red
 line when I hit Send. Thanks in advance.
 
 Dotan Cohen

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Re: Walla in Firefox

2007-07-16 Thread Tomer Cohen


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months. Let's hope to get it working in mid-August or September.

See here - http://mozilla.org.il/board/viewtopic.php?t=5287


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 Can anybnody send mail inWalla Mail with firefox? All I get is a red
 line when I hit Send. Thanks in advance.




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