[LUTE] Re: Caravaggio
On 04.03.2019 17:11, Alain Veylit wrote: And then, there is Django Reinhardt... one big exception to the rules of guitar playing. Experimenting with various techniques has probably always been a popular habit among musicians, whether by choice or force. And Aguado used the 4th finger of the right hand. Perhaps he was an alien :) Rainer To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Caravaggio
And then, there is Django Reinhardt... one big exception to the rules of guitar playing. Experimenting with various techniques has probably always been a popular habit among musicians, whether by choice or force. On 3/4/19 5:39 AM, Rainer wrote: Ooops, I mixed up 2nd and 3rd finger. Sorry :) Rainer On 04.03.2019 13:23, Rainer wrote: On 04.03.2019 11:11, b...@symbol4.de wrote: Dear all, Gerle (Musica teusch, Nürnberg 1532) says explicitely: set the little and ring fingers of the right hand on the belly, not on the rose but a little behind it. This refers to the first exercises/pieces with two voices only: Nym den lautten kragen in die lincken handt vnd setz an der rechten handt den kleyn finger/ Vnd den goldfinger auff die deck/ nit auff den stern / ein wenig dar hindther... However, regarding pieces with three voices he writes: So folgen etliche stückleyn hernach mit dreyen stymen/die magstu auch lernen/ und mustu den mittel finger an der rechten handt zu der dritten stym gebrauchen. which, of course, implies that the third finger does not rest on the belly. Rainer Kind regards Bernd Gesendet: Montag, 04. März 2019 um 09:01 Uhr Von: "Martyn Hodgson" An: "Edward C. Yong" , "Lisa Sass @muse" Cc: "Lute List" Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Caravaggio There's no reason why the third finger should not be held on the belly - rather than the more conventional fourth. Indeed, some historical players (Kapsberger comes to mind) are recorded as only plucking with the thumb, first and second fingers. Further, it's not wholly unlikely that the painting shows a model who may not have had much, if any, real instruction on how to play the instrument - how many modern depictions of lutes (in ads etc) depict unlikely postures which are accepted by the general public (eg a current UK Building society TV ad) and even, amazingly, a print ad for a manufacturer of thirteen course and other lutes being played in what appears to be an unconventional manner MH On Saturday, 2 March 2019, 04:39:51 GMT, Lisa Sass @muse wrote: You're welcome! Towards the end, he gets into finger position. Plus, link to a followup article from ~2005 is at the very bottom. Sent from my TRS-80 > On Mar 1, 2019, at 22:09, Edward C. Yong <[1]edward.y...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thank you! This may well have been it! > >> On 2 Mar 2019, at 12:02 PM, Lisa Sass @muse <[2]muse314...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Was it David Van >> Edwards? [1][3][1]http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm >> >> ~Lisa Sass >> Sent from my TRS-80 >> On Mar 1, 2019, at 21:47, Edward C. Yong <[2][4]edward.y...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> over a decade ago, I recall attending one of the talks at the UK Lute >> Society's meetings where the speaker talked about paintings of lute >> players, and said he felt a certain painting (Caravaggio?) was likely a >> fake on account of the positioning of the fingers. It was quite a >> compelling argument at the time. >> Does anyone recall who the talk was by and if a transcript is >> available? >> Thanks in advance! >> Edward >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> [3][5][2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> >> -- >> >> References >> >> 1. [6][3]http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm >> 2. mailto:[7]edward.y...@gmail.com >> 3. [8][4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> > > -- References 1. mailto:edward.y...@gmail.com 2. mailto:muse314...@gmail.com 3. [5]http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm 4. mailto:edward.y...@gmail.com 5. [6]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 6. [7]http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm 7. mailto:edward.y...@gmail.com 8. [8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 3. http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 5. http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm 6. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 7. http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm 8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Caravaggio
Ooops, I mixed up 2nd and 3rd finger. Sorry :) Rainer On 04.03.2019 13:23, Rainer wrote: On 04.03.2019 11:11, b...@symbol4.de wrote: Dear all, Gerle (Musica teusch, Nürnberg 1532) says explicitely: set the little and ring fingers of the right hand on the belly, not on the rose but a little behind it. This refers to the first exercises/pieces with two voices only: Nym den lautten kragen in die lincken handt vnd setz an der rechten handt den kleyn finger/ Vnd den goldfinger auff die deck/ nit auff den stern / ein wenig dar hindther... However, regarding pieces with three voices he writes: So folgen etliche stückleyn hernach mit dreyen stymen/die magstu auch lernen/ und mustu den mittel finger an der rechten handt zu der dritten stym gebrauchen. which, of course, implies that the third finger does not rest on the belly. Rainer Kind regards Bernd Gesendet: Montag, 04. März 2019 um 09:01 Uhr Von: "Martyn Hodgson" An: "Edward C. Yong" , "Lisa Sass @muse" Cc: "Lute List" Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Caravaggio There's no reason why the third finger should not be held on the belly - rather than the more conventional fourth. Indeed, some historical players (Kapsberger comes to mind) are recorded as only plucking with the thumb, first and second fingers. Further, it's not wholly unlikely that the painting shows a model who may not have had much, if any, real instruction on how to play the instrument - how many modern depictions of lutes (in ads etc) depict unlikely postures which are accepted by the general public (eg a current UK Building society TV ad) and even, amazingly, a print ad for a manufacturer of thirteen course and other lutes being played in what appears to be an unconventional manner MH On Saturday, 2 March 2019, 04:39:51 GMT, Lisa Sass @muse wrote: You're welcome! Towards the end, he gets into finger position. Plus, link to a followup article from ~2005 is at the very bottom. Sent from my TRS-80 > On Mar 1, 2019, at 22:09, Edward C. Yong <[1]edward.y...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thank you! This may well have been it! > >> On 2 Mar 2019, at 12:02 PM, Lisa Sass @muse <[2]muse314...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Was it David Van >> Edwards? [1][3][1]http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm >> >> ~Lisa Sass >> Sent from my TRS-80 >> On Mar 1, 2019, at 21:47, Edward C. Yong <[2][4]edward.y...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> over a decade ago, I recall attending one of the talks at the UK Lute >> Society's meetings where the speaker talked about paintings of lute >> players, and said he felt a certain painting (Caravaggio?) was likely a >> fake on account of the positioning of the fingers. It was quite a >> compelling argument at the time. >> Does anyone recall who the talk was by and if a transcript is >> available? >> Thanks in advance! >> Edward >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> [3][5][2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> >> -- >> >> References >> >> 1. [6][3]http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm >> 2. mailto:[7]edward.y...@gmail.com >> 3. [8][4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> > > -- References 1. mailto:edward.y...@gmail.com 2. mailto:muse314...@gmail.com 3. [5]http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm 4. mailto:edward.y...@gmail.com 5. [6]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 6. [7]http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm 7. mailto:edward.y...@gmail.com 8. [8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 3. http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 5. http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm 6. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 7. http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm 8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Caravaggio
On 04.03.2019 11:11, b...@symbol4.de wrote: Dear all, Gerle (Musica teusch, Nürnberg 1532) says explicitely: set the little and ring fingers of the right hand on the belly, not on the rose but a little behind it. This refers to the first exercises/pieces with two voices only: Nym den lautten kragen in die lincken handt vnd setz an der rechten handt den kleyn finger/ Vnd den goldfinger auff die deck/ nit auff den stern / ein wenig dar hindther... However, regarding pieces with three voices he writes: So folgen etliche stückleyn hernach mit dreyen stymen/die magstu auch lernen/ und mustu den mittel finger an der rechten handt zu der dritten stym gebrauchen. which, of course, implies that the third finger does not rest on the belly. Rainer Kind regards Bernd Gesendet: Montag, 04. März 2019 um 09:01 Uhr Von: "Martyn Hodgson" An: "Edward C. Yong" , "Lisa Sass @muse" Cc: "Lute List" Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Caravaggio There's no reason why the third finger should not be held on the belly - rather than the more conventional fourth. Indeed, some historical players (Kapsberger comes to mind) are recorded as only plucking with the thumb, first and second fingers. Further, it's not wholly unlikely that the painting shows a model who may not have had much, if any, real instruction on how to play the instrument - how many modern depictions of lutes (in ads etc) depict unlikely postures which are accepted by the general public (eg a current UK Building society TV ad) and even, amazingly, a print ad for a manufacturer of thirteen course and other lutes being played in what appears to be an unconventional manner MH On Saturday, 2 March 2019, 04:39:51 GMT, Lisa Sass @muse wrote: You're welcome! Towards the end, he gets into finger position. Plus, link to a followup article from ~2005 is at the very bottom. Sent from my TRS-80 > On Mar 1, 2019, at 22:09, Edward C. Yong <[1]edward.y...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thank you! This may well have been it! > >> On 2 Mar 2019, at 12:02 PM, Lisa Sass @muse <[2]muse314...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Was it David Van >> Edwards? [1][3][1]http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm >> >> ~Lisa Sass >> Sent from my TRS-80 >> On Mar 1, 2019, at 21:47, Edward C. Yong <[2][4]edward.y...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> over a decade ago, I recall attending one of the talks at the UK Lute >> Society's meetings where the speaker talked about paintings of lute >> players, and said he felt a certain painting (Caravaggio?) was likely a >> fake on account of the positioning of the fingers. It was quite a >> compelling argument at the time. >> Does anyone recall who the talk was by and if a transcript is >> available? >> Thanks in advance! >> Edward >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> [3][5][2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> >> -- >> >> References >> >> 1. [6][3]http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm >> 2. mailto:[7]edward.y...@gmail.com >> 3. [8][4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> > > -- References 1. mailto:edward.y...@gmail.com 2. mailto:muse314...@gmail.com 3. [5]http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm 4. mailto:edward.y...@gmail.com 5. [6]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 6. [7]http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm 7. mailto:edward.y...@gmail.com 8. [8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 3. http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 5. http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm 6. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 7. http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm 8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Caravaggio
Nothing to do with the model. Caravaggio himself was documented to have been a competent plucker, so he absolutely knew how to depict them fingers in correct positions. David van Edwards is "right on the money". RT On 3/4/2019 3:01 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: There's no reason why the third finger should not be held on the belly - rather than the more conventional fourth. Indeed, some historical players (Kapsberger comes to mind) are recorded as only plucking with the thumb, first and second fingers. Further, it's not wholly unlikely that the painting shows a model who may not have had much, if any, real instruction on how to play the instrument - how many modern depictions of lutes (in ads etc) depict unlikely postures which are accepted by the general public (eg a current UK Building society TV ad) and even, amazingly, a print ad for a manufacturer of thirteen course and other lutes being played in what appears to be an unconventional manner MH On Saturday, 2 March 2019, 04:39:51 GMT, Lisa Sass @muse wrote: You're welcome! Towards the end, he gets into finger position. Plus, link to a followup article from ~2005 is at the very bottom. Sent from my TRS-80 > On Mar 1, 2019, at 22:09, Edward C. Yong <[1]edward.y...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thank you! This may well have been it! > >> On 2 Mar 2019, at 12:02 PM, Lisa Sass @muse <[2]muse314...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Was it David Van >> Edwards? [1][3]http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm >> >> ~Lisa Sass >> Sent from my TRS-80 >> On Mar 1, 2019, at 21:47, Edward C. Yong <[2][4]edward.y...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> over a decade ago, I recall attending one of the talks at the UK Lute >> Society's meetings where the speaker talked about paintings of lute >> players, and said he felt a certain painting (Caravaggio?) was likely a >> fake on account of the positioning of the fingers. It was quite a >> compelling argument at the time. >> Does anyone recall who the talk was by and if a transcript is >> available? >> Thanks in advance! >> Edward >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> [3][5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> >> -- >> >> References >> >> 1. [6]http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm >> 2. mailto:[7]edward.y...@gmail.com >> 3. [8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> > > -- References 1. mailto:edward.y...@gmail.com 2. mailto:muse314...@gmail.com 3. http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm 4. mailto:edward.y...@gmail.com 5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 6. http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm 7. mailto:edward.y...@gmail.com 8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Caravaggio
Dear all, Gerle (Musica teusch, Nürnberg 1532) says explicitely: set the little and ring fingers of the right hand on the belly, not on the rose but a little behind it. Kind regards Bernd Gesendet: Montag, 04. März 2019 um 09:01 Uhr Von: "Martyn Hodgson" An: "Edward C. Yong" , "Lisa Sass @muse" Cc: "Lute List" Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Caravaggio There's no reason why the third finger should not be held on the belly - rather than the more conventional fourth. Indeed, some historical players (Kapsberger comes to mind) are recorded as only plucking with the thumb, first and second fingers. Further, it's not wholly unlikely that the painting shows a model who may not have had much, if any, real instruction on how to play the instrument - how many modern depictions of lutes (in ads etc) depict unlikely postures which are accepted by the general public (eg a current UK Building society TV ad) and even, amazingly, a print ad for a manufacturer of thirteen course and other lutes being played in what appears to be an unconventional manner MH On Saturday, 2 March 2019, 04:39:51 GMT, Lisa Sass @muse wrote: You're welcome! Towards the end, he gets into finger position. Plus, link to a followup article from ~2005 is at the very bottom. Sent from my TRS-80 > On Mar 1, 2019, at 22:09, Edward C. Yong <[1]edward.y...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thank you! This may well have been it! > >> On 2 Mar 2019, at 12:02 PM, Lisa Sass @muse <[2]muse314...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Was it David Van >> Edwards? [1][3][1]http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm >> >> ~Lisa Sass >> Sent from my TRS-80 >> On Mar 1, 2019, at 21:47, Edward C. Yong <[2][4]edward.y...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> over a decade ago, I recall attending one of the talks at the UK Lute >> Society's meetings where the speaker talked about paintings of lute >> players, and said he felt a certain painting (Caravaggio?) was likely a >> fake on account of the positioning of the fingers. It was quite a >> compelling argument at the time. >> Does anyone recall who the talk was by and if a transcript is >> available? >> Thanks in advance! >> Edward >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> [3][5][2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> >> -- >> >> References >> >> 1. [6][3]http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm >> 2. mailto:[7]edward.y...@gmail.com >> 3. [8][4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> > > -- References 1. mailto:edward.y...@gmail.com 2. mailto:muse314...@gmail.com 3. [5]http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm 4. mailto:edward.y...@gmail.com 5. [6]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 6. [7]http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm 7. mailto:edward.y...@gmail.com 8. [8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 3. http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 5. http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm 6. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 7. http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm 8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Caravaggio
There's no reason why the third finger should not be held on the belly - rather than the more conventional fourth. Indeed, some historical players (Kapsberger comes to mind) are recorded as only plucking with the thumb, first and second fingers. Further, it's not wholly unlikely that the painting shows a model who may not have had much, if any, real instruction on how to play the instrument - how many modern depictions of lutes (in ads etc) depict unlikely postures which are accepted by the general public (eg a current UK Building society TV ad) and even, amazingly, a print ad for a manufacturer of thirteen course and other lutes being played in what appears to be an unconventional manner MH On Saturday, 2 March 2019, 04:39:51 GMT, Lisa Sass @muse wrote: You're welcome! Towards the end, he gets into finger position. Plus, link to a followup article from ~2005 is at the very bottom. Sent from my TRS-80 > On Mar 1, 2019, at 22:09, Edward C. Yong <[1]edward.y...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thank you! This may well have been it! > >> On 2 Mar 2019, at 12:02 PM, Lisa Sass @muse <[2]muse314...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Was it David Van >> Edwards? [1][3]http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm >> >> ~Lisa Sass >> Sent from my TRS-80 >> On Mar 1, 2019, at 21:47, Edward C. Yong <[2][4]edward.y...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> over a decade ago, I recall attending one of the talks at the UK Lute >> Society's meetings where the speaker talked about paintings of lute >> players, and said he felt a certain painting (Caravaggio?) was likely a >> fake on account of the positioning of the fingers. It was quite a >> compelling argument at the time. >> Does anyone recall who the talk was by and if a transcript is >> available? >> Thanks in advance! >> Edward >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> [3][5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> >> -- >> >> References >> >> 1. [6]http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm >> 2. mailto:[7]edward.y...@gmail.com >> 3. [8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> > > -- References 1. mailto:edward.y...@gmail.com 2. mailto:muse314...@gmail.com 3. http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm 4. mailto:edward.y...@gmail.com 5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 6. http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm 7. mailto:edward.y...@gmail.com 8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Caravaggio
You’re welcome! Towards the end, he gets into finger position. Plus, link to a followup article from ~2005 is at the very bottom. Sent from my TRS-80 > On Mar 1, 2019, at 22:09, Edward C. Yong wrote: > > Thank you! This may well have been it! > >> On 2 Mar 2019, at 12:02 PM, Lisa Sass @muse wrote: >> >> Was it David Van >> Edwards? [1]http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm >> >> ~Lisa Sass >> Sent from my TRS-80 >> On Mar 1, 2019, at 21:47, Edward C. Yong <[2]edward.y...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> over a decade ago, I recall attending one of the talks at the UK Lute >> Society's meetings where the speaker talked about paintings of lute >> players, and said he felt a certain painting (Caravaggio?) was likely a >> fake on account of the positioning of the fingers. It was quite a >> compelling argument at the time. >> Does anyone recall who the talk was by and if a transcript is >> available? >> Thanks in advance! >> Edward >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> >> -- >> >> References >> >> 1. http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm >> 2. mailto:edward.y...@gmail.com >> 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> > >
[LUTE] Re: Caravaggio
Thank you! This may well have been it! > On 2 Mar 2019, at 12:02 PM, Lisa Sass @muse wrote: > > Was it David Van > Edwards? [1]http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm > > ~Lisa Sass > Sent from my TRS-80 > On Mar 1, 2019, at 21:47, Edward C. Yong <[2]edward.y...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi everyone, > over a decade ago, I recall attending one of the talks at the UK Lute > Society's meetings where the speaker talked about paintings of lute > players, and said he felt a certain painting (Caravaggio?) was likely a > fake on account of the positioning of the fingers. It was quite a > compelling argument at the time. > Does anyone recall who the talk was by and if a transcript is > available? > Thanks in advance! > Edward > To get on or off this list see list information at > [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > -- > > References > > 1. http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm > 2. mailto:edward.y...@gmail.com > 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >
[LUTE] Re: Caravaggio
Was it David Van Edwards? [1]http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm ~Lisa Sass Sent from my TRS-80 On Mar 1, 2019, at 21:47, Edward C. Yong <[2]edward.y...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi everyone, over a decade ago, I recall attending one of the talks at the UK Lute Society's meetings where the speaker talked about paintings of lute players, and said he felt a certain painting (Caravaggio?) was likely a fake on account of the positioning of the fingers. It was quite a compelling argument at the time. Does anyone recall who the talk was by and if a transcript is available? Thanks in advance! Edward To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm 2. mailto:edward.y...@gmail.com 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
