Re: [newbie] Looking for some advice
On Sat, 2003-07-05 at 04:10, C T wrote: I'm experiencing a number of strange behaviors with 9.1 These things happened in this order: The first thing I noticed was the icons for CD/DVD and CD/R-W disappeared from the desktop - this was maybe the 3rd or 4th time rebooting a new installation - they flashed on the screen for a fraction of a second and were gone. A few days later; I'm running a tone generator program under WINE - a Windoze program that *does* work in Linux. It worked fine for a while - then suddenly WINE would exit, failing... but if I hit 'debug' it would start and run normally - for a day or two. Now it detects an 'internal error' and gives the error to send to the bugs@ address. But the program freezes and none of the options work, eg 'save as file', 'send via internet', 'cancel', 'exit program' and clicking on the program window to close doesn't work and top shows wine.bin using 88% of the CPU and I must kill the process. About the same time: Opera (v 7.11) started acting weird. First instead of a clicked link opening another tab in the window it started opening new windows (settings in preferences didn't make any difference) and also it would only save it's state from the last instance once in a while - this has been discussed as a possible Opera problem on the Opera forums and likely has nothing to do with my perceived Linux problem - haven't seen the first problem mentioned there. Next: Although plugins are enabled and applied to XMMS, on occasion it fails to open a stream that I listen to regularly and gives a message that the correct plugin may not be chosen. I go to preferences and find that the enable plugins box (for IO) has become unchecked - choosing the correct plugin, enabling and hitting 'apply' puts things back in order and the stream plays. This will happen after a reboot or sometimes just when restarting the stream - when even the player hasn't been shut down. A while later: Using MCC I tried to install the Development packages (which I thought I'd chosen at install time) but MCC wouldn't even allow me to check the boxes, except for the documentation. These are the main things although there may be something else I'm forgetting to mention. I'm wondering if these behaviors could be caused by a related error somewhere affecting everything - with the possible exception of the Opera stuff? I've considered attempting to repair the installation using the install disk, choosing 'upgrade' and no packages, formatting only the / partition in hopes of correcting what *might* be the problem. Would this be unwise? As a last resort, I could figure out how to back up my email and bookmarks and start over fresh - which seems like a good idea.(I know Windoze thinking... I'm workin' on it :) What options are available at this point? Where do you begin troubleshooting problems like these? I'm only beginning to get a grip on the Linux file system and so, don't have the greatest confidence in manually editing files. Any and all thoughts/ideas/guesses welcome. Curt Just a thought but how old is the CMOS battery in you box? after about three years you would start getting strange results in most any O/S. (of course I get strange results all the time anyway) __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Looking for some advice
C T wrote: 1) The first thing I noticed was the icons for CD/DVD and CD/R-W disappeared from the desktop - 2) A few days later, I'm running a tone generator program under WINE - a Windoze program that *does* work in Linux. It worked fine for a while - then suddenly WINE would exit, failing... but if I hit 'debug' it would start and run normally 3) About the same time: Opera (v 7.11) started acting weird. First instead of a clicked link opening another tab in the window it started opening new windows 4) Next: XMMS on occasion fails to open a stream that I listen to regularly and gives a message that the correct plugin may not be chosen. I go to preferences and find that the enable plugins box (for IO) has become unchecked - choosing the correct plugin, enabling and hitting 'apply' puts things back in order and the stream plays. 5) A while later: Using MCC I tried to install the Development packages (which I thought I'd chosen at install time) but MCC wouldn't even allow me to check the boxes, except for the documentation. Curt I do not know the answer to all your problems, but it would seem to me that 1 to 3 may be videocard/driver, and, or, settings related. In that you can also include monitor settings. At least I would want to check that all is stable there before moving on. All of that is done in MCC, unless you have 3rd party drivers to install. Then I would post a thread for each problem you list, and I marked as 1-5. If installing your OS went satisfactory, reinstalling it is unlikely to improve things all that much, except that each individual user improves their knowledge of how to do it, so that if you are new to Mandrake then the experience is worthwhile. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Looking for some advice
On Sat, 2003-07-05 at 08:43, Aron Smith wrote: Any and all thoughts/ideas/guesses welcome. Curt Just a thought but how old is the CMOS battery in you box? after about three years you would start getting strange results in most any O/S. (of course I get strange results all the time anyway) Now there's an idea that hadn't occurred to me. It's getting close to two years old. It would be cheap/easy enough to give it a shot before I do anything drastic. Also, I just found that the tone generator does the same thing under 9.0 - which is on another hard disk in the same box, when it didn't when I last ran it there - that would seem to exclude a problem with WINE, no? Thanks for the idea Aron. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Looking for some advice
Hi there Am running dual boot (Mandrake 9.0/WinME) However, had similar experience in Windows approx 5 days ago. However, noticed that although system folders' files (eg first Control Panel; then on reboot primary hard drive, etc...) showed blank pages, the task bar showed appropriate number of files. Suspect virus. Reinstalled ME operating system files (an time-consuming reconfiguring of applications) but problem has not recurred and, touch wood, not in 9.0 Regards Marion -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Aron Smith Sent: 05 July 2003 05:44 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Looking for some advice On Sat, 2003-07-05 at 04:10, C T wrote: I'm experiencing a number of strange behaviors with 9.1 These things happened in this order: The first thing I noticed was the icons for CD/DVD and CD/R-W disappeared from the desktop - this was maybe the 3rd or 4th time rebooting a new installation - they flashed on the screen for a fraction of a second and were gone. A few days later; I'm running a tone generator program under WINE - a Windoze program that *does* work in Linux. It worked fine for a while - then suddenly WINE would exit, failing... but if I hit 'debug' it would start and run normally - for a day or two. Now it detects an 'internal error' and gives the error to send to the bugs@ address. But the program freezes and none of the options work, eg 'save as file', 'send via internet', 'cancel', 'exit program' and clicking on the program window to close doesn't work and top shows wine.bin using 88% of the CPU and I must kill the process. About the same time: Opera (v 7.11) started acting weird. First instead of a clicked link opening another tab in the window it started opening new windows (settings in preferences didn't make any difference) and also it would only save it's state from the last instance once in a while - this has been discussed as a possible Opera problem on the Opera forums and likely has nothing to do with my perceived Linux problem - haven't seen the first problem mentioned there. Next: Although plugins are enabled and applied to XMMS, on occasion it fails to open a stream that I listen to regularly and gives a message that the correct plugin may not be chosen. I go to preferences and find that the enable plugins box (for IO) has become unchecked - choosing the correct plugin, enabling and hitting 'apply' puts things back in order and the stream plays. This will happen after a reboot or sometimes just when restarting the stream - when even the player hasn't been shut down. A while later: Using MCC I tried to install the Development packages (which I thought I'd chosen at install time) but MCC wouldn't even allow me to check the boxes, except for the documentation. These are the main things although there may be something else I'm forgetting to mention. I'm wondering if these behaviors could be caused by a related error somewhere affecting everything - with the possible exception of the Opera stuff? I've considered attempting to repair the installation using the install disk, choosing 'upgrade' and no packages, formatting only the / partition in hopes of correcting what *might* be the problem. Would this be unwise? As a last resort, I could figure out how to back up my email and bookmarks and start over fresh - which seems like a good idea.(I know Windoze thinking... I'm workin' on it :) What options are available at this point? Where do you begin troubleshooting problems like these? I'm only beginning to get a grip on the Linux file system and so, don't have the greatest confidence in manually editing files. Any and all thoughts/ideas/guesses welcome. Curt Just a thought but how old is the CMOS battery in you box? after about three years you would start getting strange results in most any O/S. (of course I get strange results all the time anyway) __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Looking for some advice
On Sat, 2003-07-05 at 21:27, Pipkin wrote: Hi there Am running dual boot (Mandrake 9.0/WinME) However, had similar experience in Windows approx 5 days ago. However, noticed that although system folders' files (eg first Control Panel; then on reboot primary hard drive, etc...) showed blank pages, the task bar showed appropriate number of files. Suspect virus. Reinstalled ME operating system files (an time-consuming reconfiguring of applications) but problem has not recurred and, touch wood, not in 9.0 Regards Marion There seems to be no problems with windows - everything operates the same as before. ? Thanks for the reply Curt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
