Re: Anyone have an MX for sale? AND Re: FWD: FS: Pentax Gear

2003-09-12 Thread ernreed2
 Paul Stregevsky, a long-time Pentaxer (who still follows the PDML as
 a lurker) has asked me to forward...
 
  An email acquaintance of mine in New York,
  Christopher Platt ... needs to sell off some of his gear. Can you
  kindly post his offerings to PDML?

  Pentax MX chrome (just CLAed)

  Interested buyers can reach Chris at [EMAIL PROTECTED] .



So -- one listmember (Mark Roberts) has a friend looking for an MX, and another 
listmember mentions a contact looking to sell an MX (recently CLA'd) in rapid 
succession! Hope this is leading toward a happy
ending.



Re: OS-X

2003-09-12 Thread Anders Hultman
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, graywolf wrote:

 Since forever. Or maybe, it is more accurate to say they are both Mosaic 
 derivatives. Gates and company never give credit where due. 

Help -- About Internet Explorer.

 There are very few graphical web browsers that are not based upon Mosaic.

anders
-
http://anders.hultman.nu/



RE: Hi from southern England

2003-09-12 Thread Cotty
Hi Cesar,

November/December in England?

Yup, we got 'em here too!

Mi casa tu casa :-)



Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Fs on Friday: Pentax 2000mm f13.5

2003-09-12 Thread Th. Stach
Jose R. Rodriguez schrieb:
 
 Thomas,
 
 It may have been the SMC-K Pentax 1000mm f/11 Reflex, but if my memory is
 correct, I believe I saw one of these monsters at the camera store where I
 bought my MX (Darkroom  Camera in Beaumont, TX) back in 1985.  The shop
 owner was the father of a friend of mine from High School.  They set up the
 lens inside the store and pointed it at an electrical pole approximately 300
 yards away.  Even with a very sturdy tripod, it was very susceptible to
 camera shake.


Hehe, true I think!

I once was experimenting with three stacked converters:

F*300/f4.5 x 2 x 2 x 1,7 turning into something like 2040/f32.
Well, that was an experience... :-)

Mounted on a wooden Berlebach tripod with Manfrotto 2-inch ballhead,
camera-shake could be handled - but to compose a view and then fix it
with the ballhead was a pain.
Too much clearance ratio for that device...

All the best,

Thomas 








 -Original Message-
 From: Th. Stach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 6:20 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Fs on Friday: Pentax 2000mm f13.5
 
 YES, I'M GUILTY...
 
 ...of breaking two rules at a time here,
 but it's not me selling the item.
 And who of you has actually ever seen such a monster?
 
 Not me!
 
 http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2950656543category=12877
 
 :-)
 Thomas



Re: 6x7 55mm question

2003-09-12 Thread Jostein
On 11 Sep 2003 at 15:22, mike wilson wrote:
 
 Cokin do a bigger system now, called X-Pro.  I think it is about 100mm
 wide.
 
I compared the prices of the X-pro system with the other large 
systems, and it's the same price class as Lee.

Pricewise, I'd take a good look at the Hitec system. Don't know the 
quality of the filters, but the pricing is much more reasonable than 
the other brands. I Norway, at least...

BTW, I recently bought a Hoya polarizer (multicoated, slim, circular) 
with diameter 82mm. That's an investment I regret. At that size, even
custom made Singh-ray filters in Lee format are competitive!
So screw-in filter are not necessarily the economic alternative.

cheers,
Jostein
-- 
Photos at: http://www.oksne.net
--



Re: *ist D interesting web page

2003-09-12 Thread Jostein
This guy calls himself CLOVER.
Anyone remember PentaxClover from the PDML a while back?
Wonder if this is the same person...

Jostein
On 11 Sep 2003 at 18:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 For the first time in my life, I wish I spoke French.
 CW
 - Original Message - 
 From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 5:41 PM
 Subject: *ist D interesting web page
 
 
  Okay guys n girls, check this out:
  
  http://www.pictchallenge.com/1STDpreview1.html
  
  emailed to me by a French correspondent.
  
  
  
  
  Cheers,
Cotty
  
  
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Re: Hi from southern England

2003-09-12 Thread Jostein

The extra beer was already there, to be honest.
Today I'm glad I didn't have the last one...:-)
It's a long travel from Oxford to downtown London in the rush 
hours.

But I guess I better pay attention to my immediate surroundings...

Cheers,
Jostein

-- Original Message --
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 18:09:53 -0400

So, Jostein,

Did he listen to me, or did you have to go to the refrigerator 
and get
your own beer?  Or did you two bring a cooler with ice and beers 
right
next to the computer?  g

cheers,
frank

Jostein wrote:

 *Parp*

 :-)


--
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The
pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert
Oppenheimer



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Re: Fs on Friday: Pentax 2000mm f13.5

2003-09-12 Thread Herb Chong
i just bought a Sigma 50-500mm f4-6.3 and both the matched 1.4x and 2x
extenders. i bought it with a Gitzo 1325 CF tripod and a 1377M ball head. so
long as i use mirror lockup, 1000mm is a piece of cake. if i were to stack
the extenders, i think it would still work OK. composing and locking the
ballhead is no problem either. i have Arca-Swiss quick release system on my
head now and that is the reason i bought into the system. no movement of the
camera or lens once i lock the head.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: Th. Stach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 4:07 AM
Subject: Re: Fs on Friday: Pentax 2000mm f13.5


 I once was experimenting with three stacked converters:

 F*300/f4.5 x 2 x 2 x 1,7 turning into something like 2040/f32.
 Well, that was an experience... :-)

 Mounted on a wooden Berlebach tripod with Manfrotto 2-inch ballhead,
 camera-shake could be handled - but to compose a view and then fix it
 with the ballhead was a pain.
 Too much clearance ratio for that device...

 All the best,




Re: Lens test in German Color Foto

2003-09-12 Thread Alin Flaider
Arnold wrote:

AS comparable. In their test reports they clearly state that the results
AS for lenses of different speeds cannot be compared directly.

  Really Arnold, then what good are these results for!? After all,
  people are more likely to decide between different lenses of the
  same brand, rather then between similar offering of P and C!
  Moreover, knowing very well how a lens performs they want to
  see where another one stands relative to their own reference.
  
  I'm afraid CF results suffer from the same syndrome Photodo once
  did. These global numeric results quantify too many factors to be
  meaningful. I'd rather stick to the MTF charts - there I can see the
  contrast and resolution on center and edges at various apertures, I
  can even get an idea of the boke (!).
  Indeed the MTF allows me to make a direct comparison between
  28-70/4 and 200/2.8. Once I decide over the optical output I can then
  take into account speed, focal length, size, price, etc.
  I do understand that MTFs are harder to digest by most readers,
  but then these can be translated in simpler terms without
  necessarily resorting to overall figures that lend themselves easily
  to meaningless comparisons.

  Servus,  Alin


AS  Also one 
AS must take into account, that for a super wide angle zoom like the 
AS FA20-35/f4 a good performance is harder to achievbe than for a zoom like 
AS the FA28-70/f4, so 70 points for the 20-35 is much more of an 
AS achievement than 69 points for the 28-70/f4. Also, a zoom with larger 
AS zooming range usually does not perform as well as a zoom with smaller 
AS zooming range.



Flash focus aid (was Re: Noise level of SF1n PZ-1p M-Z5n MZ-S ?)

2003-09-12 Thread Alin Flaider
Alan wrote:

Can it use the IR beam of the inner flash (or an external dedicated flash)
as a focus aid even if I don't intent to use the flash?

AC You must use AF500FTZ then, the built-in flash won't do that. Don't know 
AC about AF360FGZ.

   Affirmative. The projected pattern area is larger than the one of
   500FTZ, to accommodate new wider AF sensors. Funny enough, the
   focus aid beam is turned off after while, regardless of the focus
   not being achieved in the meantime.
 
   Servus,  Alin



Mail archive

2003-09-12 Thread mike wilson
Hi,

Looks like Mail-Archive has croaked again.  A few double posts and then
difficulty accessing pages; now no access at all.

mike



Re: OS-X

2003-09-12 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl
A good clip would be one from RoboCop:
Glitch?  You call this a glitch?


Re: Paul's Cat-was: Subject!

2003-09-12 Thread frank theriault
Really, Paul?

Your cat died?  That's too bad.

In the overall scheme of things, pets may not seem to be such a big deal, but
they really are.

I'm sorry to hear of your loss.

regards,
frank

Paul Stenquist wrote:

 What a lousy day. First thing the cat died. Then the car wouldn't start.
 how the hell can a guy go on?


--
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
fears it is true. -J. Robert
Oppenheimer




Re: Lens test in German Color Foto

2003-09-12 Thread Arnold Stark
I agree that MTF charts may be more meaningful than global numeric 
results. CF does display those MTF charts, however, I cannot post them 
here And there really is a strong correlation betwenn the MTF charts 
and CF's global numeric results.

I also agree that it would be a lot more helpful if all lenses were 
tested at the same effective aperture numbers. I believe that photodo's 
global numeric results all referred to f4 and f8? This is of course more 
convenient for comparison than tests at wide open and two stops down. 
Still, even with the latter method it is not so difficult to understand, 
that a f2.8 zoom lens with 70 points for its performance at f2.8 and 
f5.6 is better than a f4 zoom lens with 70 points for its performance at 
f4 and f8. Taking this into account, the FA*28-70/f2.8 and the 
FA*80-200/f2.8 clearly are Pentax's best zoom lenses according to CF 
testing. Thus I would not say that CF's lens tests produce ridiculous 
results.

Arnold

Alin Flaider schrieb:

Arnold wrote:

AS comparable. In their test reports they clearly state that the results
AS for lenses of different speeds cannot be compared directly.
 Really Arnold, then what good are these results for!? After all,
 people are more likely to decide between different lenses of the
 same brand, rather then between similar offering of P and C!
 Moreover, knowing very well how a lens performs they want to
 see where another one stands relative to their own reference.
 
 I'm afraid CF results suffer from the same syndrome Photodo once
 did. These global numeric results quantify too many factors to be
 meaningful. I'd rather stick to the MTF charts - there I can see the
 contrast and resolution on center and edges at various apertures, I
 can even get an idea of the boke (!).
 Indeed the MTF allows me to make a direct comparison between
 28-70/4 and 200/2.8. Once I decide over the optical output I can then
 take into account speed, focal length, size, price, etc.
 I do understand that MTFs are harder to digest by most readers,
 but then these can be translated in simpler terms without
 necessarily resorting to overall figures that lend themselves easily
 to meaningless comparisons.

 Servus,  Alin

AS  Also one 
AS must take into account, that for a super wide angle zoom like the 
AS FA20-35/f4 a good performance is harder to achievbe than for a zoom like 
AS the FA28-70/f4, so 70 points for the 20-35 is much more of an 
AS achievement than 69 points for the 28-70/f4. Also, a zoom with larger 
AS zooming range usually does not perform as well as a zoom with smaller 
AS zooming range.

 





Re: The Spottie F

2003-09-12 Thread frank theriault
Hi, Paul,

Well, I don't have an F, but I've got several Spotties.

I think I'd love the open-aperture metering (although Ive gotten quite used to 
stop-down
metering on the SP's), but what I don't like is the fact that the meter comes one as 
soon as the
lens cap comes off.

So, if you walk around with the cap off, ready as always for that great photo op, 
you're using
batteries!  Plus, if you leave the cap off when you get home, you're draining the 
batteries as
well.

For those reasons, I think I'd prefer an SPII.  That way you still get the hotshoe.

Dave, I think Paul's pretty bang on as far as pricing (converting to Canadian dollars).
Somewhere around $150 to $160 seems about right for a chrome body.  Double that for 
black (but
theyr'e so beautiful!).

cheers,
frank


Paul Stenquist wrote:

 Spotmatic F's are probably the best screw mount cameras on the planet.
 They're not beleaguered with the electrnics of the ES models yet they
 stop down the lens for metering. I love mine. I would pay a hundred
 books for a nice chrome body or two hun for a pretty black one.
 Paul


--
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it 
is true.
-J. Robert
Oppenheimer




Re: Pentax Users Gallery

2003-09-12 Thread frank theriault
Hi,

Well, some months I critique my faves, once in a while I do them all - it depends on my
time and inclination.  I don't think I've done it in a few months, mostly because my
monitor only does bw, I'm too cheap to buy a new one, and I feel uncomfortable
commenting on colour pics if I can't see the colours! g

A few years ago, Chris Brogden, late of this list, organized a little critque group.
Each month, all those who were part of the group were assigned a number of photos,
and critiqued them on-list.  It went on for maybe 6 months, and kind of devolved.
People didn't complete their assignments, and I think it just became too much for
Chris.  All photos were open to criticism unless a specific no comments please was on
the photo.

It was fun, but I have to admit, it was hard to comment of photos that I really didn't
like.  I'd always try to find something positive to say to temper my criticism, but
that's not always easy.

I think such a loosely organized critique circle might be fun to start up again
though.  Anyone interested?

cheers,
frank

Boris Liberman wrote:

 Hi!

 Just by the way, getting a critique on one photographs should help
 them to extract more from their equipment and learn/advance a
 technique they are using.

 So, at least by the above reason we might need to increase PUG
 critique volume grin and duck.


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The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is
true. -J. Robert
Oppenheimer




Re: when will it be?

2003-09-12 Thread Camdir
Now?

Only from my twisted perspective!

Peter



Re: OS-X

2003-09-12 Thread Mark Roberts
John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Perhaps I should resurrect my 2001 theme for Windows a highlight of which was
 the voice of HAL stating I'm sorry Dave I can't do that.  Whenever
 an error was encountered.

I had sound bites from HHGttG.

The machine came up to the Hi There! This is Eddie, youur shipboard computer!
The Error sound was Marvin saying What an incredibly stupid machine.
Shutdown (or was that window close?) was Pleased to be of service!

My preferences run to Red Dwarf sound clips:
Dave Lister saying Bastard!
Rimmer saying You jammy goit!
Talkie Toaster saying Howdy-doodly-do!
The Cat saying I'm so excited all six of my nipples are tingling!

Etc, etc.

Smoke me a kipper skipper, I'll be back for breakfast!
;)


-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: My First LX arrives

2003-09-12 Thread Bob S
Sid,
See Wm. Robb's LX Gallery from the PUG.
I thought the same thing when I photographed a line-up
with MX, KX, Spotmatic, and LXen.
The LX returns to a bigger body size.
   http://pug.komkon.org/LX_Gallery/Brace.jpg
Regards,  Bob S.
From: Sid Barras [EMAIL PROTECTED]

After an interminable delay that increased my gray hair count, the LX is in
my hands. Very favorable first impressions.
One curious observation:

All this time prior to my actually owning and seeing one up close and in
action, I always considered the LX to be a smallish body. I was surprised 
to
find that it is almost exactly the same size as my K2, which I considered a
standard SLR size. In both dimensions, height and width, as well as 
depth,
the LX is very close to the K2. Perhaps lighter?

Anyway, too late to fire some film through the new baby, but tomorrow, look
out. If I have to, I'll take pictures of that same blasted live oak tree
again...
Sid
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FS: A70-210/f4

2003-09-12 Thread wendy beard
Still For Sale:

A70-210/f4 SMC A Macro (58mm)

In excellent cosmetic condition. Focus and zoom is firm and smooth.
Some lateral play in zoom ring. Appears to have a couple of specks of dust 
inside but nothing that has bothered me. Glass has no scratches or haze and 
insides are fungus free. Pentax front and rear cap.
A bargain at $100

Shipping in N. America $10.

International Money Order, Cashiers Cheque, Crispy Notes in brown envelope.

http://www.beard-redfern.com/Azooms/
(A35-105 in photos is sold)
Wendy Beard,
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.beard-redfern.com



Re: Anyone have an MX for sale?

2003-09-12 Thread Steve Desjardins
Currently, KEH has a few for the low hundreds, and one engraved chrome
for $119 USD.


Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: picture pretty Boston

2003-09-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
In New England, however, and particularly in Boston, the one central piece
of land, often a green area, is referred to as a Commons, even though it
is only one place.

Fred wrote:

 Well, actually there is indeed only one Common - it's called
 Boston Common (or, the Boston Common) (not to be confused, of course,
 with the ~one~ area known as the Boston Gardens across the street from
 the Boston Common) (and that should no longer be confused with the
 building known as Boston Garden, since it has been torn down and
 replaced with the Fleet Center...)



Re: picture pretty Boston

2003-09-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 Well, I actually did double check with my friend who wrote the Trivia and
 Fact book - Yes, he said, Common was proper but also it is commonly (no
 pun...) referred to as
 the Commons.   It seems to be a common mistake.

It's not really a mistake;  both are proper, although most New Englanders
used commons when I lived there.  See, e.g., the Random House Dictionary.



Friday FS: ESII and SMC Takumar lenses, more!

2003-09-12 Thread Joe Wilensky
Last chance on a few really good user screwmount items before they go 
to eBay. Make an offer if you don't like the price:

(Prices are listed at the end of the list, and I'll offer bargains if 
you buy several items. Shipping/insurance will be free in the 
continental U.S., and I'll contribute toward overseas shipping.)

Asahi Pentax ESII (black) with SMC Takumar 50mm f/1.4. ESII works 
beautifully, exposures seem right on. Light meter is very responsive. 
The ESII is in bargain condition, with some brassing (as is 
appropriate for black bodies) and light scratches on the baseplate.
The ASA/exposure compensation dial got a small whack sometime in this 
camera's past but it still turns freely and works properly. See 
photo below that shows that the slight dent on the dial happened when 
it was set to 100, but the adjacent photo shows it at 400. It moves 
freely without friction, when setting exposure compensation or ASA.
The 50mm f/1.4 is the late version with the rubberized focus grip and 
is one of the nicest I've seen, with hardly a speck of dust (or 
anything else) inside. Includes proper ESII case, strap, and original 
manual (I'm including a Honeywell Pentax ESII manual in English, as 
the Asahi Pentax one that came with this camera is in Japanese. I'll 
include both if desired.)

http://people.clarityconnect.com/webpages/wilensky/eBay/ESII_kit.jpg
http://people.clarityconnect.com/webpages/wilensky/eBay/ESII_top.jpg
http://people.clarityconnect.com/webpages/wilensky/eBay/ESII_bottom.jpg
http://people.clarityconnect.com/webpages/wilensky/eBay/ESII_rear.jpg
http://people.clarityconnect.com/webpages/wilensky/eBay/ESII_mount.jpg
http://people.clarityconnect.com/webpages/wilensky/eBay/ESII_dial.jpg
Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 24mm f/3.5. Lens in bargain condition 
(some exterior wear), but glass is very nice. Mechanics/diaphragm 
functioning flawlessly. Includes original caps, hard case, and 
original hood with case. Hood is in excellent condition. A beautiful 
24mm prime with very low distortion, great flare resistance, and 
wonderful color rendition.

http://people.clarityconnect.com/webpages/wilensky/eBay/24_front.jpg
http://people.clarityconnect.com/webpages/wilensky/eBay/24_rear.jpg
Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 135mm f/3.5 and Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 
200mm f/4. Both in EX- condition, beautiful glass, both include 
original caps, hoods, and cases.

http://people.clarityconnect.com/webpages/wilensky/eBay/SMC_Taks.jpg

I'm also selling one Super-Takumar lens -- the 85mm f/1.9. In KEH 
bargain condition (some exterior wear on the focus and aperture 
rings), but the glass is beautiful. Includes original hood (which is 
quite short for an 85mm, but it reverses nicely over the lens for 
storage) and caps.

http://people.clarityconnect.com/webpages/wilensky/eBay/85_front.jpg
http://people.clarityconnect.com/webpages/wilensky/eBay/85_rear.jpg
Prices:

ESII with 50/1.4 and case: $150
24mm f/3.5: $200
85mm f/1.9: $175
135mm f/3.5  200mm f/4: $100 for the pair.
... Or make an offer.

Joe
--
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Staff Writer
Communication and Marketing Services
1150 Comstock Hall
Cornell University
Ithaca, NY 14853-2601
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fax: 607-255-9873


FS Friday

2003-09-12 Thread Mark Cassino
The bills are rolling in for the unexpected computer purchase necessitated 
by my old one blowing up.  So, here are a few items offered for sale.

General Terms - buyer pays shipping and insurance, 7 day inspection period 
upon receipt (buyer pays return shipping but receives full refund of 
purchase price if item is not satisfactory).  Will ship 
internationally.  PayPal, checks, money orders are all OK. Personal checks 
will need to clear before shipping.

Email me with any questions.

SMC-K 24mm f2.8:

Glass: Very Good condition. No significant scratches but one or two small 
cleaning marks.  You need to look very closely to find them.  No fungus.

Mechanics: Perfect - everything works as it should.

Cosmetics:  Fair - shows signs of use. Some brassing on the aperture ring, 
small scratches and dings in the paint.  One small dent in the outer filter 
ring  does not affect the ability to add filters.

Accessories: Generic front and back caps.

http://www.markcassino.com/sale/k24_01.jpg
http://www.markcassino.com/sale/k24_2.jpg
$135

M 200 f4

Glass: Perfect

Mechanics: Perfect -  focus is smooth, aperture crisp, built in hood is 
present and slides in and out as it should.

Cosmetics: Excellent. No brassing or dings in the paint, but one small mark 
where the gold QC sticker fell off  (dried adhesive.)  Could probably be 
removed easily.

Accessories: Generic Front and back caps,.

http://www.markcassino.com/sale/m200.jpg

$65

Takumar 500mm f4.5 for K Mount bodies.

This is a unique item. It is a screw mount lens that was modified (not by 
me) by having a portion of a K-Mount adapter affixed onto the lens.  It 
fits on K-Mount bodies only, but  the locking pin does not engage.

 This is a big lens.  It’s manual aperture so you focus, stop down 
(manually), and shoot.  Takes 49mm internal filters.  Probably the easiest 
way to get into a truly 'big glass' lens.  I've found the optical results 
from this lens to be first rate, though I pretty much stopped using it when 
I upgraded to the A* 400 f.2.8.

Glass: Excellent  very clean, few very minor cleaning marks, a few dust 
specks inside the lens.

Mechanics: Focus, manual aperture, built in hood work perfectly.

Cosmetics: Some light scratches in the finish on the lens body, but none 
that penetrate to the metal below. However, the paint on the built in metal 
hood is chipped in many places, exposing metal below (it looks like someone 
had something mounted on the hood.)  See photo.

Accessories: Generic back cap, original front metal cap, original case 
(some padding in the case appears to have been replaced / repaired.)

http://www.markcassino.com/sale/500_01.jpg

$440

Honeywell Pentax Spotmatic with Super Takumar 55 f1.8

A clean camera and lens combo.

Camera is in excellent condition.  Meter was accurate when last used. The 
SW switch does not pop back down after shooting (a common problem with 
Spotmatics of this generation, you just have to manually lower the switch), 
otherwise everything works exactly as it should.  This is an early model 
Spotmatic and does not have a hot shoe. The camera does have XP and FP 
socketss, self timer (works fine) shutter speeds of 1 sec to 1/1000th (plus 
Bulb), Iso 20 - 1600.  A couple pieces of scotch tape are on the bottom of 
the unit, could be removed easily. Shutter looks good. Mirror box foam 
looks very good.  Inner seals look to be a bit gummy - maybe due for 
replacement. Overall, a very clean camera.

Lens

Optics:  A few small (~1mm long) scratches in front element.  Not bad but a 
little more than just cleaning marks.  No fungus.

Mechanics: Lens aperture is crisp and dry. Focusing is very smooth.  Filter 
ring is dented and filters cannot be affixed.

Cosmetics: Aside from small dent on filter ring, everything looks great. 
The metal cap has a few chips in the paint along the corner.

Accessories: Metal Lens Cap that says “Honeywell Pentax”, leather strap on 
camera.

http://www.markcassino.com/sale/spotm_01.jpg
http://www.markcassino.com/sale/spotm02.jpg
$55

Super Takumar 135 f3.5

A good metal bodied lens.

Optics: Excellent. Glass is clear and without marks.

Mechanics: Aperture is very slow to both close and open.  Otherwise 
everything works fine.

Cosmetics: Very good.

http://www.markcassino.com/sale/st135.jpg

$10 (or $5 with Spotmatic kit above.)

Tamon AF Aspherical 28  200

A great all purpose zoom In excellent condition in all areas. Complete with 
manual, hood, original caps.

http://www.markcassino.com/sale/tamron_01.jpg
http://www.markcassino.com/sale/tamron_02.jpg
 $125

Lastly -  coming soon to eBay - (drumroll drumroll) - the legendary Rikenon 
55mm f 1.2 …

- MCC







-
Mark Cassino
Kalamazoo, MI
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Photography:

http://www.markcassino.com






Friday FS: Pentax lens case for the SMC-A 70-210 f/4

2003-09-12 Thread Joe Wilensky
... I also have a Pentax hard lens case for the SMC-A 70-210 f/4 in 
EX- condition. If anyone wants it, $10 including shipping 
(continental U.S.) will do. I originally picked it up thinking that I 
could use it for my SMC-F 70-210, but the F lens is actually quite a 
bit more compact.

Joe
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fax: 607-255-9873


NEEDED: someone to host *ist D images

2003-09-12 Thread Bojidar_Dimitrov

Hello PDML-ers!

Thanks to PDML-er Arnold Stark, I should have an *ist D to test out
tonight and tomorrow.  I will not have software for the camera, but I
should be able to mount the CF card on my computer and transfer the JPGs
that way.  I am sure many of you would like to see full-resolution
images from the camera, but I am unable to handle the bandwidth.  So:

  I am looking for someone who is willing to host 5-10 MB
  and who can manage the traffic.

Obviously, without Pentax software I will not be able to convert any RAW
images, but I will make at least full-res JPGs.

That's it for now.  I will try to have a mini-review by Sunday on the
KMP.

Cheers,
Boz



Re: NEEDED: someone to host *ist D images

2003-09-12 Thread Brendan
I have room, email me and I'll give you an ftp account
if you still need it.

__ 
Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca



OT:Texas vacation

2003-09-12 Thread Jim Apilado
Hi,
Haven't taken a vacation in 13 years.  Want to visit Big Bend National Park
in late October.  Anyone ever been there at that time of year?  Flying in to
Midland and renting a car to get the park.

Jim A. 



LX service

2003-09-12 Thread Clive evans
Hi All
Seen some traffic on LX service/CLAs.
I have just received my second LX back from service at:

Asahi Photo in Wembley UK.

I can report that contrary to the reports I seem to see of horror stories
elsehwere, these people seem to really care.
Both bodies were returned not just CLAed but with , in one case new rewind
knob , and in the other new ASA selector.
The bodiesghad been clearly cleaned up and ere returned withALL the straps,
caps etc. that they went with.
Apparently is two guys who used to run the service department of Pentax UK
in Harrow/Stockley park so clearly they know their stuff.
Suggest anyone in Europe looking for expertise on ALL Pentax manual stuff
look no further [my ME super is going tomorrow!]
Cost is a flat rate [inc parts] of Mx/Me super GBP 60+VAT, LX GBP90+VAT
Their telephone number is +44 [0]208 9082931 or look at www.asahiphoto.net.
Nice guys!
Best
Clive
Antibes
France



Re: Pentax Users Gallery

2003-09-12 Thread Eactivist
I think such a loosely organized critique circle might be fun to start up 
again
though.  Anyone interested?

cheers,
frank

Sure. But one little hitch. I organize a critique sort of board in another 
realm, another genre -- one that gives out assignments. And believe me the 
little hitch isn't that little, getting people to follow through. I keep telling 
people I am not their Mom and hate nagging, but push come to shove I just about 
always have to do follow-up letters nagging them to complete their reviews. 
(Well, 90-99% of the time, some just do it.) (We are talking reviews of hobbyist 
computer games here, BTW.)

Maybe just encouraging people to do some comments is better. Like, say, you 
do some comments, I do some, others do some, and just put at the end of our 
posts a general call for more comments. Hey, I did some, you do some too!

I find just picking out 5-8-10 is best. Hard to do them all.

And sometimes I hesitate because I am not an experienced photographer and my 
comments tend to be more toward color balance and composition, and sort of 
arty, but no technical stuff. And probably uninformed.

But I figure people like feedback, even if brief or not what they 
particularly wanted to hear about their stuff.

I have noticed, since I've been on the list, that people usually, actually 
get more comments when they post a URL to their latest stuff than when they 
submit things to the PUG. Comments on submissions to the PUG are hit and miss. 
Maybe 30 people submitted, but only 8-10 got comments ;-). But posting URLs, just 
about everyone gets a comment or two.

Anyway, if you want to organize something feel free, frank, but I recommend 
not volunteering for something that may become more of a headache than you 
think.

Maybe just a general call for more PUG comments at the end of one's post of 
comments would be best.

Marnie aka Doe ;-)



Digital versus film

2003-09-12 Thread Paul Delcour
This is interesting. What strikes me is the absolute smoothness of the
digital images and the very very grainy film ones. If all this is correct I
want the *ist!

http://www.mindspring.com/~focalfire/DigitalvsFilm.html

http://www.tawbaware.com/film_digital.htm

:-)

Paul Delcour



Re: NEEDED: someone to host *ist D images

2003-09-12 Thread Rüdiger Neumann
Hallo Boz,
is a preproduction camera or is it already the final version.
It will be interessting to get a report from you, as you have allready
a lot of experence with your 10D.
Looking forward  to your review!
regards
Rüdiger



Von: Bojidar Dimitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello PDML-ers!

Thanks to PDML-er Arnold Stark, I should have an *ist D to test out
tonight and tomorrow.  I will not have software for the camera, but I
should be able to mount the CF card on my computer and transfer the JPGs
that way.  I am sure many of you would like to see full-resolution
images from the camera, but I am unable to handle the bandwidth.  So:

  I am looking for someone who is willing to host 5-10 MB
  and who can manage the traffic.

Obviously, without Pentax software I will not be able to convert any RAW
images, but I will make at least full-res JPGs.

That's it for now.  I will try to have a mini-review by Sunday on the
KMP.

Cheers,
Boz




Help needed.

2003-09-12 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

A friend of mine is looking for prism for Bronica ETR SE 645 camera.
If you happen to know anyone who's selling such an item, I would very
much appreciate if you contacted me off list. Well, of course, he
would appreciate it even more if he would get the prism.

Thanks in advance.

Boris



Re: OS-X

2003-09-12 Thread John Francis
 
 John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 The machine came up to the Hi There! This is Eddie, youur shipboard computer!
 The Error sound was Marvin saying What an incredibly stupid machine.
 Shutdown (or was that window close?) was Pleased to be of service!
 
 My preferences run to Red Dwarf sound clips:
 Dave Lister saying Bastard!
 Rimmer saying You jammy goit!
 Talkie Toaster saying Howdy-doodly-do!
 The Cat saying I'm so excited all six of my nipples are tingling!

But those are just quotes - they don't seem to have any particular relevance.
(with the possible exception of Talkie Toaster if used as a startup sound).

One of my colleages has edited a couple of sound-grabs together, to get

  Oh, no!  You've got Mail!  You bastards!

as his mail delivery notification.



Re: Four lenses

2003-09-12 Thread Tom Ivar Helbekkmo
Paul Delcour [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have the SMC 85/1.8 and absolutely love it.

Ditto!  That one, and the SMC 24/2.8 are the two lenses that by
default live in my camera bag -- one of them on the LX, the other
easily at hand.  Anything else gets taken along for some specific
reason.

-tih
-- 
Tom Ivar Helbekkmo, Senior System Administrator, EUnet Norway
www.eunet.no  T: +47-22092958 M: +47-93013940 F: +47-22092901



Re: picture pretty Boston

2003-09-12 Thread Steve Desjardins
There is an old stone church at the base of the Hancock tower.  The
tower is highly reflective glass and the church had a marvelous
reflection in the glass.  It's a much taken shot but it's worth the
effort to see the real thing and try you hand at it.  I think it's near
the Copley Square T-stop.


Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



First DSLR review on line

2003-09-12 Thread Mark Roberts
Not as thorough as DP Review or some other sites but it's a start:
http://www.ephotozine.com/equipment/tests/testdetail.cfm?test_id=267

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: NEEDED: someone to host *ist D images

2003-09-12 Thread John Francis

As soon as I get my *ist-D I plant to put up images myself, too.

There will be no problem putting up full-resolution TIFFs from
raw images; as long as I stay under a gigabyte or so my web host
won't even notice the extra space, and there is no traffic limit.



Re: picture pretty Boston

2003-09-12 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 Ann Sanfedele wrote:

  Well, I actually did double check with my friend who wrote the Trivia and
  Fact book - Yes, he said, Common was proper but also it is commonly (no
  pun...) referred to as
  the Commons.   It seems to be a common mistake.

 It's not really a mistake;  both are proper, although most New Englanders
 used commons when I lived there.  See, e.g., the Random House Dictionary.

I was really just trying to stretch out the puns with common mistake :)   I
lived in
Main a bit and have spent a great deal of time in the Boston area - always
said COMMONS myself because that was what I heard :)  Anyway, you and I seem
to be in agreement, Dan :)

ann




FS Friday: Sound card

2003-09-12 Thread Mark Roberts
Kinda OT but I'm cleaning up my computer room and have a sound card to
sell: Turtle Beach Montego II with the optional digital I/O board. This
includes SPDIF digital inputs and outputs (both coaxial and optical).
This sound card cost me over $200.00 when I bought it (mail order) a few
years ago. It won't work on Windows XP so it's lost some value since
then - I'll sell it for $30.00 plus shipping. It does work on Windows
2000, although I never got the digital I/O working I believe this was
because I needed Windows Service Pack updates.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: picture pretty Boston

2003-09-12 Thread John Francis
 
 What difference does it make? They no longer allow you to pasture your 
 livestock there, so is not really a village commons grin.
 
 Interestingly enough my ditionary only lists it as commons, but uses 
 common in the definition. So the PDML are not the only ones confused 
 about the term grin.

The common/commons in question is the one in Boston.  Whatever folks may
use, the name on every map I have seen calls the area the Boston Common.
Sure, it *should* be called the commons, based on derivation.  And as
a general term, either is acceptable (especially around New England).
But we aren't talking about commons in general - this is the specific
case of that area of public green space near Commonwealth Avenue.

The term Boston Commons seems to have it's widest use applied to a
part of a trendy back bay development (or to some of the hotels).
Neither is somewhere I would consider particularly photogenic.



Re: OT:Texas vacation

2003-09-12 Thread Robert Gonzalez
I've been there in early spring and its very nice at that time.  October 
should also be very nice, it might be pretty green in some places, due 
to rain, a rare sight in those parts.  Make sure you go into the Chisos 
mountain basin, and if you can, stay at the Chisos Mountain Lodge.  Its 
very scenic there.

Good luck and have fun.

rg

Jim Apilado wrote:
Hi,
Haven't taken a vacation in 13 years.  Want to visit Big Bend National Park
in late October.  Anyone ever been there at that time of year?  Flying in to
Midland and renting a car to get the park.
Jim A. 






Re: Digital versus film

2003-09-12 Thread graywolf
Well, what strikes me is the lack of detail in the digital print. On the 
  second site I only got as far as noticing that they were showing 
images of newsprint. If your are going to do that why not compare a 
copier image to a copy film image. However the contrast in the film 
images is better.

I am getting real tired of digital vs. film arguments by people who have 
no idea what they are comparing. Digital has reached the point where it 
is professionally acceptable (ask TV if his customers have any complaints).

If quality is the issue film still is better. You say your ultra high 
res digital is equal to 35mm, I raise you 120 film. When you match 120 
film, I raise you 4x5 film.  When digital equals 8x10 film it will be 
too inconvenient to compare larger formats, but there are a few 20x24 
cameras out there.

Furthermore, I hope everyone here is aware that what is being compared 
on those sites are digital images of prints made from film and digital 
originals (at least on the first site). That is far far from comparing 
apples to oranges. It is more like comparing banana pudding made from 
apples to another banana pudding made from oranges (both sans the bananas).

---

Paul Delcour wrote:
This is interesting. What strikes me is the absolute smoothness of the
digital images and the very very grainy film ones. If all this is correct I
want the *ist!
http://www.mindspring.com/~focalfire/DigitalvsFilm.html

http://www.tawbaware.com/film_digital.htm

:-)

Paul Delcour


--

--graywolf
http://graywolfphoto.com



Sensors in digital cameras: CCD vs. CMOS

2003-09-12 Thread John Dallman
I've been teaching myself digital camera jargon in preparation 
for a *istD. Finding that some cameras have CMOS sensors, and 
others have a CCD, I did some searching and found some useful 
web pages:

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/digital-camera3.htm

http://www.kodak.com/US/en/corp/researchDevelopment/technologyFeatures/cmos.shtml

To summarise: the *istD is CCD, which is the longer-established 
technology. It's expensive and uses a lot of power, but best for 
sensitivity and noise, at present. 

--- 
John Dallman [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Four lenses

2003-09-12 Thread John Dallman
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Delcour) wrote:

 I have the SMC 85/1.8 and absolutely love it. It may not be full 
 portrait, but the 1.8 gives a lot of candid opportunities with 
 little light. Great to observe people and snap.

Hear, hear. Lovely bit of glass. For a while after I'd decided that 
I wanted something more modern than the Spotmatic F, I was looking 
for an equivalent lens in a modern bayonet mount, and when I found 
one, I was going to switch to whatever system it fitted. Then I found 
out about the SMCP-A* 85/1.4, and a little later managed to score one, 
so I've stayed with Pentax. 

What do you mean by Not full portrait, incidentally? I agree an 
85mm is not much good for full-length portraits, but those are usually 
unfortunately long and narrow pictures anyway, and I prefer not to 
take them much. 

--- 
John Dallman [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Digital versus film

2003-09-12 Thread tom
 -Original Message-
 From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I am getting real tired of digital vs. film arguments by
 people who have
 no idea what they are comparing. Digital has reached the
 point where it
 is professionally acceptable (ask TV if his customers have
 any complaints).

When I show them stuff side by side they prefer digital 95% of the
time.

tv






Re: OT: 4x5 for auction

2003-09-12 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Why?  You goin' 8x10?  :^)

CRB

From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: OT: 4x5 for auction 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=15247item=2950658227 

FS Friday! 

It's not pentax, but though some of you might want to try 4X5 cheap!!! 

Laters, 
JCO 

--
--

Collin Brendemuehl
KC8TKA

The problems are so over-rated.
-- Petula Clark
--



Re: Digital versus film

2003-09-12 Thread Paul Delcour
Ah! I thought TV was...

Very nice photo's TV, just the way I like 'm.

:-)

Paul Delcour

 From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:53:48 -0400
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Digital versus film
 Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:50:59 -0400
 
 -Original Message-
 From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I am getting real tired of digital vs. film arguments by
 people who have
 no idea what they are comparing. Digital has reached the
 point where it
 is professionally acceptable (ask TV if his customers have
 any complaints).
 
 When I show them stuff side by side they prefer digital 95% of the
 time.
 
 tv
 
 
 
 



Re: Digital versus film

2003-09-12 Thread Paul Delcour
TV,

just for the record: why do people prefer digital 95% of the time? Any
striking reason?

:-)

Paul Delcour

 From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:53:48 -0400
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Digital versus film
 Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:50:59 -0400
 
 -Original Message-
 From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I am getting real tired of digital vs. film arguments by
 people who have
 no idea what they are comparing. Digital has reached the
 point where it
 is professionally acceptable (ask TV if his customers have
 any complaints).
 
 When I show them stuff side by side they prefer digital 95% of the
 time.
 
 tv
 
 
 
 



RE: OT: 4x5 for auction

2003-09-12 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Actually I did buy an 8X10 recently but
I have 4 4X5 cameras and thats too many
hence the sale.

I plan on trying contact printing
the 8x10 negs, NO Digital, No Enlarger!!!

JCO



 J.C. O'Connell   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://jcoconnell.com



-Original Message-
From: Collin Brendemuehl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 2:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: 4x5 for auction


Why?  You goin' 8x10?  :^)

CRB

From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: 4x5 for auction

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=15247item=295065822
7

FS Friday!

It's not pentax, but though some of you might want to try 4X5 cheap!!!

Laters,
JCO

--
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Collin Brendemuehl
KC8TKA

The problems are so over-rated.
-- Petula Clark
--



RE: Digital versus film

2003-09-12 Thread tom
 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Delcour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 TV,

 just for the record: why do people prefer digital 95% of
 the time? Any
 striking reason?

They look sharper and they enlarge better. When you enlarge negs,
there's a point at which the print starts falling apart. I always
thought the sweet spot for 35mm was 5x7 or 8x10, for 645 it's 8x10 or
11x14, depending on the film. Beyond that, grain becomes intrusive,
IMO. You can certainly do it, and I often did (and do), I just think
those are the sweet spots.

Digital doesn't suffer from this problem. You can go as big as you
want, no grain, no pixels. You'll start losing detail at some point,
but the space in between the details doesn't fill up with weird
colored film grains, it's just space.

When I go to appointments now, I have a couple of 16x20's in the car
for folks who aren't sure about the quality of digital. They're always
reassured - I don't think 35mm can't compete at that size. 645 can,
but I can't get the same kind of shots.

Since I've started shooting digital, I've had about 30 or 40 meetings
with prospective clients, and only one turned me down due to the fact
that I used digital (that I know of). The groom was an art
conservationist and was worried about archivalness. My signup rate is
the same as it was before digital.

Digital taught me a lesson about resolution - it's overrated. I'll
take sharp and grainless. It's a lesson I only learned because I
actually started shooting digital and making prints.

Oh, and my lab just got a Durst Theta which they're going to run real
b/w paper through. Yippee! Anyone for selenium toned digital prints?

tv

--
Thomas Van Veen Photography
www.thomasvanveen.com
301-758-3085




Re: picture pretty Boston

2003-09-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 I was really just trying to stretch out the puns with common mistake :)   I
 lived in Main a bit and have spent a great deal of time in the Boston area -
 always said COMMONS myself because that was what I heard :)  Anyway, you and I
 seem to be in agreement, Dan :)

Perhaps we have a lot in  commons.



RE: NEEDED: someone to host *ist D images

2003-09-12 Thread Rob Brigham
Does the istD come with RAW software?  If I were to buy a jap import,
would I get an english version of the software?  Is this kind of stuff
downloadable normally?

 -Original Message-
 From: John Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 12 September 2003 18:50
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: NEEDED: someone to host *ist D images
 
 
 
 As soon as I get my *ist-D I plant to put up images myself, too.
 
 There will be no problem putting up full-resolution TIFFs 
 from raw images; as long as I stay under a gigabyte or so my 
 web host won't even notice the extra space, and there is no 
 traffic limit.
 
 



Re: NEEDED: someone to host *ist D images

2003-09-12 Thread John Francis
 
 Does the istD come with RAW software?

So says the what's in the box information.  We'll see.

  If I were to buy a jap import, would I get an english version of the software?

Nope.

  Is this kind of stuff downloadable normally?

Sometimes.  Or go the third-part route; Some of the image-handling
software has support for the RAW format from various suppliers.
I know cerious software (makers of Thumbs Plus) are looking at Pentax.



Re: Digital versus film

2003-09-12 Thread Bruce Dayton
graywolf,

All I can say, is that I am more than pleased with my 67 stuff -
plenty of details (way more than 35mm or 6mp DSLR).  I have my little
Optio S for quick snaps. At some point I'm sure that I will get a
DSLR, but for the time being, I'll stick with film and what it has to
offer me (when quality is concerned).


Bruce



Friday, September 12, 2003, 11:44:03 AM, you wrote:

g Well, what strikes me is the lack of detail in the digital print. On the 
gsecond site I only got as far as noticing that they were showing 
g images of newsprint. If your are going to do that why not compare a 
g copier image to a copy film image. However the contrast in the film 
g images is better.

g I am getting real tired of digital vs. film arguments by people who have 
g no idea what they are comparing. Digital has reached the point where it 
g is professionally acceptable (ask TV if his customers have any complaints).

g If quality is the issue film still is better. You say your ultra high 
g res digital is equal to 35mm, I raise you 120 film. When you match 120 
g film, I raise you 4x5 film.  When digital equals 8x10 film it will be 
g too inconvenient to compare larger formats, but there are a few 20x24 
g cameras out there.

g Furthermore, I hope everyone here is aware that what is being compared 
g on those sites are digital images of prints made from film and digital 
g originals (at least on the first site). That is far far from comparing 
g apples to oranges. It is more like comparing banana pudding made from 
g apples to another banana pudding made from oranges (both sans the bananas).

g ---

g Paul Delcour wrote:
 This is interesting. What strikes me is the absolute smoothness of the
 digital images and the very very grainy film ones. If all this is correct I
 want the *ist!
 
 http://www.mindspring.com/~focalfire/DigitalvsFilm.html
 
 http://www.tawbaware.com/film_digital.htm
 
 :-)
 
 Paul Delcour
 
 




Re: NEEDED: someone to host *ist D images

2003-09-12 Thread Mark Roberts
Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Does the istD come with RAW software?  

Yes.

If I were to buy a jap import, would I get an english version of the software?

Hmm. Interesting question. It's likely that they'd include all language
versions of the software on the same CD, just to simplify production and
distribution. No guarantee, though.

Is this kind of stuff downloadable normally?

Don't think so. Canon  Nikon don't make their RAW converters available
for free, do they?

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: Digital versus film

2003-09-12 Thread William Robb
The most recent DCCT has an article on one of the New Fuji print films by
Ctein.
He makes an interesting observation about scanning negatives.
I put the interesting bit on my website at:
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/Ctein_art.html
William Robb



Re: OT: 4x5 for auction

2003-09-12 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: J. C. O'Connell 
Subject: RE: OT: 4x5 for auction



 I plan on trying contact printing
 the 8x10 negs, NO Digital, No Enlarger!!!

I think this is the best way to print negatives. 

William Robb



RE: NEEDED: someone to host *ist D images

2003-09-12 Thread Rob Brigham
Cheers, and thanks to john for response too.  I am hoping mark is right
about the language versions though.  The cost difference isnt that great
to me, but there is a saving, and I would get to support an all round
good guy and Pentax fan.

Looks like I just got clearance from my financial director too!

 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 12 September 2003 22:39
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: NEEDED: someone to host *ist D images
 
 
 Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Does the istD come with RAW software?
 
 Yes.
 
 If I were to buy a jap import, would I get an english version of the 
 software?
 
 Hmm. Interesting question. It's likely that they'd include 
 all language versions of the software on the same CD, just to 
 simplify production and distribution. No guarantee, though.
 
 Is this kind of stuff downloadable normally?
 
 Don't think so. Canon  Nikon don't make their RAW converters 
 available for free, do they?
 
 -- 
 Mark Roberts
 Photography and writing
 www.robertstech.com
 
 



*ist D delayed again

2003-09-12 Thread Cameron Hood
My salesman at Kerrisdale cameras has told me the release date has 
been delayed yet again until the end of September. He didn't say, 
however, what year that will be. We've been waiting for a damn digital 
camera since, what, Spring 2001? I wonder how many P people will bail 
in the meantime.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the new Canon will be in next week! 
They announce it, and a couple of weeks later, poof, there it is, live 
and in person. They don't seem to be affected by these disasterous 
delays. And in the meantime, I'll probably have to buy another couple 
of hundred bucks worth of bloody film, not not mention two trips 
downtown to the lab, and parking, and scanning, and etc., etc.

This camera better be bloody good after all this.

Annoyed at Pentax yet again,
Cameron




Re: OT-Common/Commons was:picture pretty Boston

2003-09-12 Thread frank theriault
It's not just a New England thing, Dan (and everyone else).  In Halifax, they
have a large piece of land near downtown called The Commons  As Tom alluded
to, it was originally a common grazing area for the livestock of the town
dwellers.  I'm sure that it would have been an idea that was brought over from
England.

I've always said that cultural lines in North America run north/south, so that
a fisherman in Nova Scotia has more in common with a fisherman in Massechussets
than he does with a stock broker in Toronto.

At the time of the American Revolution, there was great pressure for Nova
Scotia to be the 14th Colony, and throw off the colonial yoke, as it were,
along with their southern bretheren.  Apparently it was close, but they decided
to stick with The Crown.

Wouldn't North American be a different place if Nova Scotia would have joined
the Revolution?  I'd be American, as my parents are from Nova Scotia! (Well,
it's not that simple, because my Acadian grandparents might not have moved to
an American Nova Scotia in the early 1900's - but I digress).

There's a great true story about the giant Christmas Tree that's in the Boston
Common every year.  There was a huge explosion in the Halifax harbour in 1917 -
an ammunition ship blew up, and the city was leveled - thousands died.  The
railroad tracks were destroyed, and the only way for relief to get in was by
ship.  The first boatload of doctors, nurses, medics and medical supplies came
from Boston!  As a thank you, the next Christmas the City of Halifax sent
Boston the largest fir tree it could find, and it was erected in the Common.
They still send one every year, and apparently there's a big lighting ceremony
and all.  I think that's a cool story.

Sorry to have rambled OT so much...

cheers,
frank

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 In New England, however, and particularly in Boston, the one central piece
 of land, often a green area, is referred to as a Commons, even though it
 is only one place.


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Re: *ist D delayed again

2003-09-12 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Cameron Hood 
Subject: *ist D delayed again


  My salesman at Kerrisdale cameras has told me the release date has 
 been delayed yet again until the end of September. .
 


More to the point, has the bet been decided yet?

William Robb



Re: Bob Shell Case

2003-09-12 Thread frank theriault
Thanks, Steve,

I was actually just thinking about that case this week, wondering if there
were any developments.  I guess there were.

Appreciate the link.

cheers,
frank

Steve Desjardins wrote:

 For those of you who are interested, the most recent developments in the
 Roanoke Times:

 http://www.roanoke.com/roatimes/news/story155157.html

 Steven Desjardins
 Department of Chemistry
 Washington and Lee University
 Lexington, VA 24450
 (540) 458-8873
 FAX: (540) 458-8878
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: *ist D delayed again

2003-09-12 Thread Christian
Funny, my salesguy has told me that my camera is on the way and should be in
the store by Monday

He could be lying to me of course but he said he got a tracking number.

Christian

- Original Message -
From: Cameron Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 6:37 PM
Subject: *ist D delayed again


  My salesman at Kerrisdale cameras has told me the release date has
 been delayed yet again until the end of September. He didn't say,
 however, what year that will be. We've been waiting for a damn digital
 camera since, what, Spring 2001? I wonder how many P people will bail
 in the meantime.

  Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the new Canon will be in next week!
 They announce it, and a couple of weeks later, poof, there it is, live
 and in person. They don't seem to be affected by these disasterous
 delays. And in the meantime, I'll probably have to buy another couple
 of hundred bucks worth of bloody film, not not mention two trips
 downtown to the lab, and parking, and scanning, and etc., etc.

  This camera better be bloody good after all this.


 Annoyed at Pentax yet again,
 Cameron







Re: Paul's Cat-was: Subject!

2003-09-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
Hi Frank,
No, not really. I was just exercising my right to change the subject 
:-).
However, my last cat did die a couple of years ago. He was a stray we 
lured into the house back when we lived in New Jersey. He must have 
been at least twenty when he departed. I could tell he was going to 
die. He was completely dehydrated and couldn't move. I sat with him and 
talked to him well into the night. Then he stiffened and quit 
breathing, so I closed his eyes. It was the middle of winter, so i 
couldn't bury him. So I put him in a plastic bat, then I put the 
plastic bag in a box and taped it up. Then i put the bos in the deep 
freeze. Having a morbid sense of humor I took to occasionally asking 
the kids to go down the basement and see if there's anything to eat in 
the deep freeze. Seven months later I buried him. I will soon take a 
picture of his headstone with my Pentax. Just to keep this changed 
subject thread on track:-)
Paul
On Friday, September 12, 2003, at 07:01 AM, frank theriault wrote:

Really, Paul?

Your cat died?  That's too bad.

In the overall scheme of things, pets may not seem to be such a big 
deal, but
they really are.

I'm sorry to hear of your loss.

regards,
frank
Paul Stenquist wrote:

What a lousy day. First thing the cat died. Then the car wouldn't 
start.
how the hell can a guy go on?

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pessimist
fears it is true. -J. Robert
Oppenheimer





Re: *ist D delayed again

2003-09-12 Thread frank theriault
Hi, Bill,

I would say so...

I can't remember, was it you and tv?  And who said there'd be a Pentax dlsr
by Sept 1?

Anyone want to bet on Sept 1, 2004?  vbg

cheers,
frank

William Robb wrote:



 More to the point, has the bet been decided yet?

 William Robb

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fears it is true. -J. Robert
Oppenheimer




Re: The Spottie F

2003-09-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
Hi Frank,
I'm good about caps. i only take them off when I know I'm going to 
shoot. So I don't have a problem with SPf batteries, but I could see 
how it could be a problem for others. I have two early spotties, 
including a motor drive version, but not Spotmatic IIs. I think I would 
like that camera. May be one of these days. But most of my cameras 
don't get enough exercise as it is, particularly the screw mounts.
Paul
On Friday, September 12, 2003, at 07:09 AM, frank theriault wrote:

Hi, Paul,

Well, I don't have an F, but I've got several Spotties.

I think I'd love the open-aperture metering (although Ive gotten 
quite used to stop-down
metering on the SP's), but what I don't like is the fact that the 
meter comes one as soon as the
lens cap comes off.

So, if you walk around with the cap off, ready as always for that 
great photo op, you're using
batteries!  Plus, if you leave the cap off when you get home, you're 
draining the batteries as
well.

For those reasons, I think I'd prefer an SPII.  That way you still get 
the hotshoe.

Dave, I think Paul's pretty bang on as far as pricing (converting to 
Canadian dollars).
Somewhere around $150 to $160 seems about right for a chrome body.  
Double that for black (but
theyr'e so beautiful!).

cheers,
frank
Paul Stenquist wrote:

Spotmatic F's are probably the best screw mount cameras on the planet.
They're not beleaguered with the electrnics of the ES models yet they
stop down the lens for metering. I love mine. I would pay a hundred
books for a nice chrome body or two hun for a pretty black one.
Paul
--
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The 
pessimist fears it is true.
-J. Robert
Oppenheimer





Re: Digital versus film

2003-09-12 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Brendan 
Subject: Re: Digital versus film


 I have a 4000 dpi scanner, and not even 800 iso film
 looks that grainy! yes digital capture is cleaner but
 if you shoot 100 iso slide film like provia, or astia
 you'll not see any grain at 4000 dpi, I love these
 comparisons tho, you see how poorly these guys are at
 scanning.

I think it shows that scanning film is a misapplication of technology.

William Robb



Camera size and lens size.

2003-09-12 Thread Charlton Vaughan
Hi group,

Since I'm a (what I consider) a novice at photography, I don't do this 
professionally, I really am not knowledgeable about terms, etc.,

My camera is an SLR, or what I've always thought of as a 35mm camera, one of 
the lens that act as a regular lens with limited macro says it's a 58mm 
lens, another (Takumar) says it's a 55-58mm lens.  I was looking at the 
Pentax Flash AF360FGZ listed on the Pentax website that someone referred me 
to.  The flash is listed as covering a 28mm.  What does it mean to cover 
a 28mm lens?  Does this mean that my 58mm 0r 55-58mm lens is incompatible 
with the flash?  Does this also mean that it will not fit a 35mm camera...as 
you can see...I'm s confused.

Charlton



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Re: Camera size and lens size.

2003-09-12 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Charlton Vaughan
Subject: Camera size and lens size.


 Hi group,

 Since I'm a (what I consider) a novice at photography, I don't do this
 professionally, I really am not knowledgeable about terms, etc.,

 My camera is an SLR, or what I've always thought of as a 35mm camera, one
of
 the lens that act as a regular lens with limited macro says it's a 58mm
 lens, another (Takumar) says it's a 55-58mm lens.  I was looking at the
 Pentax Flash AF360FGZ listed on the Pentax website that someone referred
me
 to.  The flash is listed as covering a 28mm.  What does it mean to
cover
 a 28mm lens?  Does this mean that my 58mm 0r 55-58mm lens is incompatible
 with the flash?  Does this also mean that it will not fit a 35mm
camera...as
 you can see...I'm s confused.


Ummm, probably not the flash for you.
Just exactly what model of Pentax do you have there?

William Robb



Re: Camera size and lens size.

2003-09-12 Thread Charlton Vaughan
Pentax SF10



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From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Camera size and lens size.
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 22:52:02 -0600
- Original Message -
From: Charlton Vaughan
Subject: Camera size and lens size.
 Hi group,

 Since I'm a (what I consider) a novice at photography, I don't do this
 professionally, I really am not knowledgeable about terms, etc.,

 My camera is an SLR, or what I've always thought of as a 35mm camera, 
one
of
 the lens that act as a regular lens with limited macro says it's a 58mm
 lens, another (Takumar) says it's a 55-58mm lens.  I was looking at the
 Pentax Flash AF360FGZ listed on the Pentax website that someone referred
me
 to.  The flash is listed as covering a 28mm.  What does it mean to
cover
 a 28mm lens?  Does this mean that my 58mm 0r 55-58mm lens is 
incompatible
 with the flash?  Does this also mean that it will not fit a 35mm
camera...as
 you can see...I'm s confused.

Ummm, probably not the flash for you.
Just exactly what model of Pentax do you have there?
William Robb

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