Re: Taskbar Flashing
Kelly Brownsberger wrote: I'm running Pidgin on Windows (XP) - is there a setting/preference to instruct Pidgin to not flash in the Windows taskbar while running? I'm not really sure why it's flashing exactly, but I'm guessing it's notifying me that one or more buddies just came online. That's not This change might be more difficult than it seems! Firstly the flashing is actually done by Windows and is the result of a window requesting focus when it belongs to an application that is not currently running, so it would be the byproduct of Pidgin trying to focus a window, and therefore difficult to remove without also preventing Pidgin switching windows automatically when it is the current foreground application. Secondly, searching the code for likely keywords failed to find any place, except when trying to start a second copy of Pidgin, where it explicitly sets focus. This could be because I didn't try the right keywords, but it could mean that it is the side effect of modifying the contents of a window using the graphics library that Pidgin uses. On the other hand, focus setting operations on the buddy window do seem to trigger protocol dependent operations, so not trying to set focus may result in the buddy window not updating properly. (Windows relies on message which can be spied on by various windows, and the buddy window is responding to such a message, which means that there need not be any place in the code where the request is explicitly made.) I'm not sure if this is actually the actual final focussing, which will probably still happen, or the request to focus. I'm not an expert on the structure of the Pidgin source code, nor on Win32 APIs that support the Windows GUI, but it seems, at least, possible that this behaviour may be difficult to change. On the other hand, I may well have overlooked something. -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work. ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Taskbar Flashing
Which version of Pidgin? In latest (v2.6.x) this can be set in menu Tools / Plugins : Message Notification Regards, David From: support-boun...@pidgin.im [mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im] On Behalf Of Kelly Brownsberger Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:18 PM To: support@pidgin.im Subject: Taskbar Flashing I'm running Pidgin on Windows (XP) - is there a setting/preference to instruct Pidgin to not flash in the Windows taskbar while running? I'm not really sure why it's flashing exactly, but I'm guessing it's notifying me that one or more buddies just came online. That's not really useful to me and because I'm using Pidgin to consolidate four different IM networks together, my buddy list is quite large. So, Pidgin is pretty much flashing constantly all day. Pidgin is definitely a keeper if I can figure out how to make it stop flashing, but nothing is jumping out at me from scanning the menu options Any tips would be appreciated Thanks -kelly ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Taskbar Flashing
I'm running 2.6.3 By In latest (v2.6.x) this can be set in menu Tools / Plugins : Message Notification you mean I can UNCHECK Message Notification. I have ZERO plugins checked. What I'm describing doesn't appear to be a notification. It's just a weird flashing that happen randomly throughout the day. I'll fire up Camtasia and take a video of it next time it happens and send it to you guys :) David Woolley explanation sounds accurate - this seems like a low level Windowing oddity more than a feature. On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:19 AM, David Balazic david.bala...@hermes-softlab.com wrote: Which version of Pidgin? In latest (v2.6.x) this can be set in menu Tools / Plugins : Message Notification Regards, David -- *From:* support-boun...@pidgin.im [mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im] *On Behalf Of *Kelly Brownsberger *Sent:* Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:18 PM *To:* support@pidgin.im *Subject:* Taskbar Flashing I'm running Pidgin on Windows (XP) - is there a setting/preference to instruct Pidgin to not flash in the Windows taskbar while running? I'm not really sure why it's flashing exactly, but I'm guessing it's notifying me that one or more buddies just came online. That's not really useful to me and because I'm using Pidgin to consolidate four different IM networks together, my buddy list is quite large. So, Pidgin is pretty much flashing constantly all day. Pidgin is definitely a keeper if I can figure out how to make it stop flashing, but nothing is jumping out at me from scanning the menu options Any tips would be appreciated Thanks -kelly ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Taskbar Flashing
Aha. Which window is flashin? If it is the buddy list, then you can just close it (make sure you have set it to minimize to systray, I think this is the default). Regards, David From: Kelly Brownsberger [mailto:kelly.brownsber...@gmail.com] Sent: 23. October 2009 16:39 To: David Balazic Cc: support@pidgin.im Subject: Re: Taskbar Flashing I'm running 2.6.3 By In latest (v2.6.x) this can be set in menu Tools / Plugins : Message Notification you mean I can UNCHECK Message Notification. I have ZERO plugins checked. What I'm describing doesn't appear to be a notification. It's just a weird flashing that happen randomly throughout the day. I'll fire up Camtasia and take a video of it next time it happens and send it to you guys :) David Woolley explanation sounds accurate - this seems like a low level Windowing oddity more than a feature. On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:19 AM, David Balazic david.bala...@hermes-softlab.com wrote: Which version of Pidgin? In latest (v2.6.x) this can be set in menu Tools / Plugins : Message Notification Regards, David From: support-boun...@pidgin.im [mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im] On Behalf Of Kelly Brownsberger Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:18 PM To: support@pidgin.im Subject: Taskbar Flashing I'm running Pidgin on Windows (XP) - is there a setting/preference to instruct Pidgin to not flash in the Windows taskbar while running? I'm not really sure why it's flashing exactly, but I'm guessing it's notifying me that one or more buddies just came online. That's not really useful to me and because I'm using Pidgin to consolidate four different IM networks together, my buddy list is quite large. So, Pidgin is pretty much flashing constantly all day. Pidgin is definitely a keeper if I can figure out how to make it stop flashing, but nothing is jumping out at me from scanning the menu options Any tips would be appreciated Thanks -kelly ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Taskbar Flashing
yes, it's the buddy list and I do have it minimized to the system tray. it will randomly reappear and start flashing in the task bar like this: http://kellybrownsberger.com/pidgin_likes_to_flash.jpg in that screenshot, my friend happened to ping me a few seconds before Pidgin started flashing, but I don't believe they're related. The buddy list likes to just appear from the system tray and start flashing. It doesn't maximize itself or come into view - just appears in the taskbar and starts flashing. Is this a feature I don't understand? It seems to be trying to notify me of something, but I don't know what :) On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:59 AM, David Balazic david.bala...@hermes-softlab.com wrote: Aha. Which window is flashin? If it is the buddy list, then you can just close it (make sure you have set it to minimize to systray, I think this is the default). Regards, David -- *From:* Kelly Brownsberger [mailto:kelly.brownsber...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 23. October 2009 16:39 *To:* David Balazic *Cc:* support@pidgin.im *Subject:* Re: Taskbar Flashing I'm running 2.6.3 By In latest (v2.6.x) this can be set in menu Tools / Plugins : Message Notification you mean I can UNCHECK Message Notification. I have ZERO plugins checked. What I'm describing doesn't appear to be a notification. It's just a weird flashing that happen randomly throughout the day. I'll fire up Camtasia and take a video of it next time it happens and send it to you guys :) David Woolley explanation sounds accurate - this seems like a low level Windowing oddity more than a feature. On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:19 AM, David Balazic david.bala...@hermes-softlab.com wrote: Which version of Pidgin? In latest (v2.6.x) this can be set in menu Tools / Plugins : Message Notification Regards, David -- *From:* support-boun...@pidgin.im [mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im] *On Behalf Of *Kelly Brownsberger *Sent:* Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:18 PM *To:* support@pidgin.im *Subject:* Taskbar Flashing I'm running Pidgin on Windows (XP) - is there a setting/preference to instruct Pidgin to not flash in the Windows taskbar while running? I'm not really sure why it's flashing exactly, but I'm guessing it's notifying me that one or more buddies just came online. That's not really useful to me and because I'm using Pidgin to consolidate four different IM networks together, my buddy list is quite large. So, Pidgin is pretty much flashing constantly all day. Pidgin is definitely a keeper if I can figure out how to make it stop flashing, but nothing is jumping out at me from scanning the menu options Any tips would be appreciated Thanks -kelly ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Taskbar Flashing
I think I might have figured it out - is this it's way of telling me I have new mail? Disabling mail notifications *seems* to have stopped this flashing behavior Sent from my iPhone On Oct 23, 2009, at 10:10 AM, Kelly Brownsberger kelly.brownsber...@gmail.com wrote: yes, it's the buddy list and I do have it minimized to the system tray. it will randomly reappear and start flashing in the task bar like this: http://kellybrownsberger.com/pidgin_likes_to_flash.jpg in that screenshot, my friend happened to ping me a few seconds before Pidgin started flashing, but I don't believe they're related. The buddy list likes to just appear from the system tray and start flashing. It doesn't maximize itself or come into view - just appears in the taskbar and starts flashing. Is this a feature I don't understand? It seems to be trying to notify me of something, but I don't know what :) On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:59 AM, David Balazic david.bala...@hermes-softlab.com wrote: Aha. Which window is flashin? If it is the buddy list, then you can just close it (make sure you have set it to minimize to systray, I think this is the default). Regards, David From: Kelly Brownsberger [mailto:kelly.brownsber...@gmail.com] Sent: 23. October 2009 16:39 To: David Balazic Cc: support@pidgin.im Subject: Re: Taskbar Flashing I'm running 2.6.3 By In latest (v2.6.x) this can be set in menu Tools / Plugins : Message Notification you mean I can UNCHECK Message Notification. I have ZERO plugins checked. What I'm describing doesn't appear to be a notification. It's just a weird flashing that happen randomly throughout the day. I'll fire up Camtasia and take a video of it next time it happens and send it to you guys :) David Woolley explanation sounds accurate - this seems like a low level Windowing oddity more than a feature. On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:19 AM, David Balazic david.bala...@hermes-softlab.com wrote: Which version of Pidgin? In latest (v2.6.x) this can be set in menu Tools / Plugins : Message Notification Regards, David From: support-boun...@pidgin.im [mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im] On Behalf Of Kelly Brownsberger Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:18 PM To: support@pidgin.im Subject: Taskbar Flashing I'm running Pidgin on Windows (XP) - is there a setting/preference to instruct Pidgin to not flash in the Windows taskbar while running? I'm not really sure why it's flashing exactly, but I'm guessing it's notifying me that one or more buddies just came online. That's not really useful to me and because I'm using Pidgin to consolidate four different IM networks together, my buddy list is quite large. So, Pidgin is pretty much flashing constantly all day. Pidgin is definitely a keeper if I can figure out how to make it stop flashing, but nothing is jumping out at me from scanning the menu options Any tips would be appreciated Thanks -kelly ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Taskbar Flashing
I was going to ask if this was an issue. Yes, new mail notifications WILL cause that issue. Though, at least for as long as I can remember, that will NEVER cause pidgin's Buddy List to actually open in the background. IE - If I have pidgin minimized to tray, that is, no buddy list window actually open, it won't open and flash in the task bar. ONLY if the buddy list is already open will I see that behavior. -Michael Kelly Brownsberger wrote: I think I might have figured it out - is this it's way of telling me I have new mail? Disabling mail notifications *seems* to have stopped this flashing behavior Sent from my iPhone On Oct 23, 2009, at 10:10 AM, Kelly Brownsberger kelly.brownsber...@gmail.com mailto:kelly.brownsber...@gmail.com wrote: yes, it's the buddy list and I do have it minimized to the system tray. it will randomly reappear and start flashing in the task bar like this: http://kellybrownsberger.com/pidgin_likes_to_flash.jpg in that screenshot, my friend happened to ping me a few seconds before Pidgin started flashing, but I don't believe they're related. The buddy list likes to just appear from the system tray and start flashing. It doesn't maximize itself or come into view - just appears in the taskbar and starts flashing. Is this a feature I don't understand? It seems to be trying to notify me of something, but I don't know what :) On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:59 AM, David Balazic david.bala...@hermes-softlab.com mailto:david.bala...@hermes-softlab.com wrote: Aha. Which window is flashin? If it is the buddy list, then you can just close it (make sure you have set it to minimize to systray, I think this is the default). Regards, David *From:* Kelly Brownsberger [mailto:kelly.brownsber...@gmail.com mailto:kelly.brownsber...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 23. October 2009 16:39 *To:* David Balazic *Cc:* support@pidgin.im mailto:support@pidgin.im *Subject:* Re: Taskbar Flashing I'm running 2.6.3 By In latest (v2.6.x) this can be set in menu Tools / Plugins : Message Notification you mean I can UNCHECK Message Notification. I have ZERO plugins checked. What I'm describing doesn't appear to be a notification. It's just a weird flashing that happen randomly throughout the day. I'll fire up Camtasia and take a video of it next time it happens and send it to you guys :) David Woolley explanation sounds accurate - this seems like a low level Windowing oddity more than a feature. On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:19 AM, David Balazic david.bala...@hermes-softlab.com mailto:david.bala...@hermes-softlab.com wrote: Which version of Pidgin? In latest (v2.6.x) this can be set in menu Tools / Plugins : Message Notification Regards, David *From:* support-boun...@pidgin.im mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im [mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im] *On Behalf Of *Kelly Brownsberger *Sent:* Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:18 PM *To:* support@pidgin.im mailto:support@pidgin.im *Subject:* Taskbar Flashing I'm running Pidgin on Windows (XP) - is there a setting/preference to instruct Pidgin to not flash in the Windows taskbar while running? I'm not really sure why it's flashing exactly, but I'm guessing it's notifying me that one or more buddies just came online. That's not really useful to me and because I'm using Pidgin to consolidate four different IM networks together, my buddy list is quite large. So, Pidgin is pretty much flashing constantly all day. Pidgin is definitely a keeper if I can figure out how to make it stop flashing, but nothing is jumping out at me from scanning the menu options Any tips would be appreciated Thanks -kelly ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
