RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

2023-03-25 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
I got the demo of it to work just fine. 
Was considering getting a code.
Thanks,
Darrell


-Original Message-
From: Talk  On Behalf Of 
Amanda Lee via Talk
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2023 9:53 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Cc: amandainparadise...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

Nobody was referring to JAWS.

I was referring to the Code Factory version of Eloquence that one can use with 
Window-Eyes, Narrator and other compatible Screen Readers.



-Original Message-
From: Talk
 On Behalf Of 
Darrell Bowles via Talk
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 5:43 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Darrell Bowles 
Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

What do you mean that eloquence for JAWS doesn't read properly?
Thanks,
Darrell


-Original Message-
From: Talk  On Behalf Of 
Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 5:41 PM
To: Amanda Lee via Talk 
Cc: Larry Higgins 
Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

Amanda, Please!, Please!, say it isn't so!


Has Code Factory shut down their server permanently, or is this a temporary 
problem.


I must say that I really like Eloquence, but haven't been totally satisfied 
with either Code Factory's version, nor that which comes with JAWS.


The one problem I find with the factory's version is that it goes past my most 
comfortable WE reading speed of 41  to either a step or so below or above. And 
JAWS Eloquence doesn't pause appropriately between sentences, which doesn't 
seem to bother enough users for Vispairo
(spelling) to do anything about it.


Sure wish I  hadn't gotten rid of, or maybe lost would be more like it, my 
version of Window-Eyes with an independent version of Eloquence, so that I 
might be able to use it with any screen reader, at least theoretically anyway.


I really might be much more willing to completely switch over to either JAWS or 
NVDA if I could only hear Eloquence the way I wish to hear it.




On 3/23/2023 2:42 PM, Amanda Lee via Talk wrote:
> Actually Window-Eyes for Office still works, provided you have a 
> licensed version of Microsoft Office.
>
> I had some issues for awhile, but when I recently set up a new 
> computer,
it
> was really easiest for me to run the file and use it to finish setting 
> up the computer.
>
> The annoying issue though is that Code Factory has shut down their 
> server for the three different licenses that I purchased for Eloquence 
> and none were fully used.
>
> That's not related to GW Micro or Vispero.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
>  On
Behalf
> Of Darrell Bowles via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:58 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> Cc: Darrell Bowles 
> Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
>
> I wish that windowe eyes for office still worked.
> Thanks,
> Darrell
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk  On 
> Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:45 PM
> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
> Cc: amandainparadise...@gmail.com
> Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
>
> Unfortunately, although I agree with the sentiments, there are flaws 
> in
this
> petition.
>
> It is not going to occur, that if a company purchased other competing 
> businesses to promote their own, that they will regard this as 
> anything
but
> a hostile demand.
>
> What I would like to see however, is that at least the fully developed 
> version of Window-Eyes was still available to purchase or upgrade as 
> well
as
> that itps related apps and software is made available for access to
licensed
> owners of the software.
>
> I wish you luck and hope that I am incorrect that Vispero will allow
another
> Screen Reader to compete with JAWS or Fusion.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Amanda Lee
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Talk
>  On
Behalf
> Of Sky Mundell via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 5:02 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> Cc: Sky Mundell 
> Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
>
> Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don't think there is a 
> way
to
> fix the problem.
> Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, 
> but it probably won't make a difference. Here it is.
>
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.change%
2F=05%7C01%7C%7Cc238107d545e4280ea5008db2be76492%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435
%7C1%7C0%7C638152045042253530%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC
4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C
ta=P%2BXP0HhN0MeoEnuaWSMhO2bmVRPtxGzTStjthKmHZyQ%3D=0.
>
org%2Fp%2Fvisper

RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

2023-03-25 Thread Amanda Lee via Talk
Nobody was referring to JAWS.

I was referring to the Code Factory version of Eloquence that one can use
with Window-Eyes, Narrator and other compatible Screen Readers.



-Original Message-
From: Talk
 On Behalf
Of Darrell Bowles via Talk
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 5:43 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Darrell Bowles 
Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

What do you mean that eloquence for JAWS doesn't read properly?
Thanks,
Darrell


-Original Message-
From: Talk  On Behalf
Of Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 5:41 PM
To: Amanda Lee via Talk 
Cc: Larry Higgins 
Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

Amanda, Please!, Please!, say it isn't so!


Has Code Factory shut down their server permanently, or is this a temporary
problem.


I must say that I really like Eloquence, but haven't been totally satisfied
with either Code Factory's version, nor that which comes with JAWS.


The one problem I find with the factory's version is that it goes past my
most comfortable WE reading speed of 41  to either a step or so below or
above. And JAWS Eloquence doesn't pause appropriately between sentences,
which doesn't seem to bother enough users for Vispairo
(spelling) to do anything about it.


Sure wish I  hadn't gotten rid of, or maybe lost would be more like it, my
version of Window-Eyes with an independent version of Eloquence, so that I
might be able to use it with any screen reader, at least theoretically
anyway.


I really might be much more willing to completely switch over to either JAWS
or NVDA if I could only hear Eloquence the way I wish to hear it.




On 3/23/2023 2:42 PM, Amanda Lee via Talk wrote:
> Actually Window-Eyes for Office still works, provided you have a licensed
> version of Microsoft Office.
>
> I had some issues for awhile, but when I recently set up a new computer,
it
> was really easiest for me to run the file and use it to finish setting up
> the computer.
>
> The annoying issue though is that Code Factory has shut down their server
> for the three different licenses that I purchased for Eloquence and none
> were fully used.
>
> That's not related to GW Micro or Vispero.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
>  On
Behalf
> Of Darrell Bowles via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:58 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> Cc: Darrell Bowles 
> Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
>
> I wish that windowe eyes for office still worked.
> Thanks,
> Darrell
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk  On Behalf
> Of Amanda Lee via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:45 PM
> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
> Cc: amandainparadise...@gmail.com
> Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
>
> Unfortunately, although I agree with the sentiments, there are flaws in
this
> petition.
>
> It is not going to occur, that if a company purchased other competing
> businesses to promote their own, that they will regard this as anything
but
> a hostile demand.
>
> What I would like to see however, is that at least the fully developed
> version of Window-Eyes was still available to purchase or upgrade as well
as
> that itps related apps and software is made available for access to
licensed
> owners of the software.
>
> I wish you luck and hope that I am incorrect that Vispero will allow
another
> Screen Reader to compete with JAWS or Fusion.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Amanda Lee
>
>
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Talk
>  On
Behalf
> Of Sky Mundell via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 5:02 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> Cc: Sky Mundell 
> Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
>
> Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don't think there is a way
to
> fix the problem.
> Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it
> probably won't make a difference. Here it is.
>
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.change%
2F=05%7C01%7C%7Cc238107d545e4280ea5008db2be76492%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435
%7C1%7C0%7C638152045042253530%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC
4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C
ta=P%2BXP0HhN0MeoEnuaWSMhO2bmVRPtxGzTStjthKmHZyQ%3D=0.
>
org%2Fp%2Fvispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-th
>
e-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d6228
>
4c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6381519031
>
43996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI
>
6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=uwNEqT%2B6ml6mAsmH0e9S34jlK%2B
> glfV8941DmxBtQU90%3D=0
> Then, after I did

RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

2023-03-25 Thread Amanda Lee via Talk
If yours is still working, that's great.  However I have not been able to 
activate any of my licenses for over a year now.



-Original Message-
From: Talk  
On Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 5:41 PM
To: Amanda Lee via Talk 
Cc: Larry Higgins 
Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

Amanda, Please!, Please!, say it isn't so!


Has Code Factory shut down their server permanently, or is this a temporary 
problem.


I must say that I really like Eloquence, but haven't been totally 
satisfied with either Code Factory's version, nor that which comes with 
JAWS.


The one problem I find with the factory's version is that it goes past 
my most comfortable WE reading speed of 41  to either a step or so below 
or above. And JAWS Eloquence doesn't pause appropriately between 
sentences, which doesn't seem to bother enough users for Vispairo 
(spelling) to do anything about it.


Sure wish I  hadn't gotten rid of, or maybe lost would be more like it, 
my version of Window-Eyes with an independent version of Eloquence, so 
that I might be able to use it with any screen reader, at least 
theoretically anyway.


I really might be much more willing to completely switch over to either 
JAWS or NVDA if I could only hear Eloquence the way I wish to hear it.




On 3/23/2023 2:42 PM, Amanda Lee via Talk wrote:
> Actually Window-Eyes for Office still works, provided you have a licensed
> version of Microsoft Office.
>
> I had some issues for awhile, but when I recently set up a new computer, it
> was really easiest for me to run the file and use it to finish setting up
> the computer.
>
> The annoying issue though is that Code Factory has shut down their server
> for the three different licenses that I purchased for Eloquence and none
> were fully used.
>
> That's not related to GW Micro or Vispero.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
>  On Behalf
> Of Darrell Bowles via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:58 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> Cc: Darrell Bowles 
> Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
>
> I wish that windowe eyes for office still worked.
> Thanks,
> Darrell
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk  On Behalf
> Of Amanda Lee via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:45 PM
> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
> Cc: amandainparadise...@gmail.com
> Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
>
> Unfortunately, although I agree with the sentiments, there are flaws in this
> petition.
>
> It is not going to occur, that if a company purchased other competing
> businesses to promote their own, that they will regard this as anything but
> a hostile demand.
>
> What I would like to see however, is that at least the fully developed
> version of Window-Eyes was still available to purchase or upgrade as well as
> that itps related apps and software is made available for access to licensed
> owners of the software.
>
> I wish you luck and hope that I am incorrect that Vispero will allow another
> Screen Reader to compete with JAWS or Fusion.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Amanda Lee
>
>
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Talk
>  On Behalf
> Of Sky Mundell via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 5:02 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> Cc: Sky Mundell 
> Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
>
> Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don't think there is a way to
> fix the problem.
> Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it
> probably won't make a difference. Here it is.
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.change.
> org%2Fp%2Fvispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-th
> e-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d6228
> 4c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6381519031
> 43996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI
> 6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=uwNEqT%2B6ml6mAsmH0e9S34jlK%2B
> glfV8941DmxBtQU90%3D=0
> Then, after I did the petition, I put the petition on the audio games.net
> forum
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.audio
> games.net%2Ftopic%2F47955%2Fwhy-i-did-the-petition-to-get-the-windoweyes-scr
> een-reader-back%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d62284c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df
> 9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151903143996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbG
> Zsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3
> 000%7C%7C%7C=rTHSQ69hxEJLtT1EQqlG7Gj9%2F5QZgekc5bGNcAITgPQ%3D
> =0
>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook

Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

2023-03-23 Thread Larry Higgins via Talk
Well Darrell, If you take a listen to any text of your choosing with 
JAWS, and compare the same reading with Window-Eyes, you can definitely 
hear the difference.



JAWS Eloquence barely completes the last word of any sentence, then 
rapidly moves right to the first word in the next with virtually no 
pause or letup. And no, all of the applied settings at JAW's command 
will not help with this apparently programmed defect.



If I wish to speed up my reading on my own, I can certainly do so, but I 
simply don't need to have my reading done at a pace that would drive me 
nuts if a human reader did the same.



As many varieties of readers commercial or staff that the Talking Book 
program uses, I have encountered none that would read in that manner. 
This is something I simply cannot put up with, or abide.



On 3/23/2023 4:43 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote:

What do you mean that eloquence for JAWS doesn't read properly?
Thanks,
Darrell


-Original Message-
From: Talk  On Behalf Of 
Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 5:41 PM
To: Amanda Lee via Talk 
Cc: Larry Higgins 
Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

Amanda, Please!, Please!, say it isn't so!


Has Code Factory shut down their server permanently, or is this a temporary 
problem.


I must say that I really like Eloquence, but haven't been totally
satisfied with either Code Factory's version, nor that which comes with
JAWS.


The one problem I find with the factory's version is that it goes past
my most comfortable WE reading speed of 41  to either a step or so below
or above. And JAWS Eloquence doesn't pause appropriately between
sentences, which doesn't seem to bother enough users for Vispairo
(spelling) to do anything about it.


Sure wish I  hadn't gotten rid of, or maybe lost would be more like it,
my version of Window-Eyes with an independent version of Eloquence, so
that I might be able to use it with any screen reader, at least
theoretically anyway.


I really might be much more willing to completely switch over to either
JAWS or NVDA if I could only hear Eloquence the way I wish to hear it.




On 3/23/2023 2:42 PM, Amanda Lee via Talk wrote:

Actually Window-Eyes for Office still works, provided you have a licensed
version of Microsoft Office.

I had some issues for awhile, but when I recently set up a new computer, it
was really easiest for me to run the file and use it to finish setting up
the computer.

The annoying issue though is that Code Factory has shut down their server
for the three different licenses that I purchased for Eloquence and none
were fully used.

That's not related to GW Micro or Vispero.



-Original Message-
From: Talk
 On Behalf
Of Darrell Bowles via Talk
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:58 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Darrell Bowles 
Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

I wish that windowe eyes for office still worked.
Thanks,
Darrell


-Original Message-
From: Talk  On Behalf
Of Amanda Lee via Talk
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:45 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Cc: amandainparadise...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

Unfortunately, although I agree with the sentiments, there are flaws in this
petition.

It is not going to occur, that if a company purchased other competing
businesses to promote their own, that they will regard this as anything but
a hostile demand.

What I would like to see however, is that at least the fully developed
version of Window-Eyes was still available to purchase or upgrade as well as
that itps related apps and software is made available for access to licensed
owners of the software.

I wish you luck and hope that I am incorrect that Vispero will allow another
Screen Reader to compete with JAWS or Fusion.

Kind regards,

Amanda Lee



-Original Message-
From: Talk
 On Behalf
Of Sky Mundell via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 5:02 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Sky Mundell 
Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don't think there is a way to
fix the problem.
Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it
probably won't make a difference. Here it is.
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.change%2F=05%7C01%7C%7Cc238107d545e4280ea5008db2be76492%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638152045042253530%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=P%2BXP0HhN0MeoEnuaWSMhO2bmVRPtxGzTStjthKmHZyQ%3D=0.
org%2Fp%2Fvispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-th
e-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d6228
4c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6381519031
43996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI
6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D

RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

2023-03-23 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
What do you mean that eloquence for JAWS doesn't read properly?
Thanks,
Darrell


-Original Message-
From: Talk  On Behalf Of 
Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 5:41 PM
To: Amanda Lee via Talk 
Cc: Larry Higgins 
Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

Amanda, Please!, Please!, say it isn't so!


Has Code Factory shut down their server permanently, or is this a temporary 
problem.


I must say that I really like Eloquence, but haven't been totally 
satisfied with either Code Factory's version, nor that which comes with 
JAWS.


The one problem I find with the factory's version is that it goes past 
my most comfortable WE reading speed of 41  to either a step or so below 
or above. And JAWS Eloquence doesn't pause appropriately between 
sentences, which doesn't seem to bother enough users for Vispairo 
(spelling) to do anything about it.


Sure wish I  hadn't gotten rid of, or maybe lost would be more like it, 
my version of Window-Eyes with an independent version of Eloquence, so 
that I might be able to use it with any screen reader, at least 
theoretically anyway.


I really might be much more willing to completely switch over to either 
JAWS or NVDA if I could only hear Eloquence the way I wish to hear it.




On 3/23/2023 2:42 PM, Amanda Lee via Talk wrote:
> Actually Window-Eyes for Office still works, provided you have a licensed
> version of Microsoft Office.
>
> I had some issues for awhile, but when I recently set up a new computer, it
> was really easiest for me to run the file and use it to finish setting up
> the computer.
>
> The annoying issue though is that Code Factory has shut down their server
> for the three different licenses that I purchased for Eloquence and none
> were fully used.
>
> That's not related to GW Micro or Vispero.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
>  On Behalf
> Of Darrell Bowles via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:58 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> Cc: Darrell Bowles 
> Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
>
> I wish that windowe eyes for office still worked.
> Thanks,
> Darrell
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk  On Behalf
> Of Amanda Lee via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:45 PM
> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
> Cc: amandainparadise...@gmail.com
> Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
>
> Unfortunately, although I agree with the sentiments, there are flaws in this
> petition.
>
> It is not going to occur, that if a company purchased other competing
> businesses to promote their own, that they will regard this as anything but
> a hostile demand.
>
> What I would like to see however, is that at least the fully developed
> version of Window-Eyes was still available to purchase or upgrade as well as
> that itps related apps and software is made available for access to licensed
> owners of the software.
>
> I wish you luck and hope that I am incorrect that Vispero will allow another
> Screen Reader to compete with JAWS or Fusion.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Amanda Lee
>
>
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Talk
>  On Behalf
> Of Sky Mundell via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 5:02 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> Cc: Sky Mundell 
> Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
>
> Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don't think there is a way to
> fix the problem.
> Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it
> probably won't make a difference. Here it is.
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.change%2F=05%7C01%7C%7Cc238107d545e4280ea5008db2be76492%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638152045042253530%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=P%2BXP0HhN0MeoEnuaWSMhO2bmVRPtxGzTStjthKmHZyQ%3D=0.
> org%2Fp%2Fvispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-th
> e-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d6228
> 4c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6381519031
> 43996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI
> 6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=uwNEqT%2B6ml6mAsmH0e9S34jlK%2B
> glfV8941DmxBtQU90%3D=0
> Then, after I did the petition, I put the petition on the audio games.net
> forum
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.audio%2F=05%7C01%7C%7Cc238107d545e4280ea5008db2be76492%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638152045042253530%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=tiecBkP2Cq827TmeWt71SyXrgdjk

Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

2023-03-23 Thread Larry Higgins via Talk

Amanda, Please!, Please!, say it isn't so!


Has Code Factory shut down their server permanently, or is this a 
temporary problem.



I must say that I really like Eloquence, but haven't been totally 
satisfied with either Code Factory's version, nor that which comes with 
JAWS.



The one problem I find with the factory's version is that it goes past 
my most comfortable WE reading speed of 41  to either a step or so below 
or above. And JAWS Eloquence doesn't pause appropriately between 
sentences, which doesn't seem to bother enough users for Vispairo 
(spelling) to do anything about it.



Sure wish I  hadn't gotten rid of, or maybe lost would be more like it, 
my version of Window-Eyes with an independent version of Eloquence, so 
that I might be able to use it with any screen reader, at least 
theoretically anyway.



I really might be much more willing to completely switch over to either 
JAWS or NVDA if I could only hear Eloquence the way I wish to hear it.





On 3/23/2023 2:42 PM, Amanda Lee via Talk wrote:

Actually Window-Eyes for Office still works, provided you have a licensed
version of Microsoft Office.

I had some issues for awhile, but when I recently set up a new computer, it
was really easiest for me to run the file and use it to finish setting up
the computer.

The annoying issue though is that Code Factory has shut down their server
for the three different licenses that I purchased for Eloquence and none
were fully used.

That's not related to GW Micro or Vispero.



-Original Message-
From: Talk
 On Behalf
Of Darrell Bowles via Talk
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:58 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Darrell Bowles 
Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

I wish that windowe eyes for office still worked.
Thanks,
Darrell


-Original Message-
From: Talk  On Behalf
Of Amanda Lee via Talk
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:45 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Cc: amandainparadise...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

Unfortunately, although I agree with the sentiments, there are flaws in this
petition.

It is not going to occur, that if a company purchased other competing
businesses to promote their own, that they will regard this as anything but
a hostile demand.

What I would like to see however, is that at least the fully developed
version of Window-Eyes was still available to purchase or upgrade as well as
that itps related apps and software is made available for access to licensed
owners of the software.

I wish you luck and hope that I am incorrect that Vispero will allow another
Screen Reader to compete with JAWS or Fusion.

Kind regards,

Amanda Lee



-Original Message-
From: Talk
 On Behalf
Of Sky Mundell via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 5:02 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Sky Mundell 
Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don't think there is a way to
fix the problem.
Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it
probably won't make a difference. Here it is.
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.change.
org%2Fp%2Fvispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-th
e-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d6228
4c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6381519031
43996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI
6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=uwNEqT%2B6ml6mAsmH0e9S34jlK%2B
glfV8941DmxBtQU90%3D=0
Then, after I did the petition, I put the petition on the audio games.net
forum
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.audio
games.net%2Ftopic%2F47955%2Fwhy-i-did-the-petition-to-get-the-windoweyes-scr
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000%7C%7C%7C=rTHSQ69hxEJLtT1EQqlG7Gj9%2F5QZgekc5bGNcAITgPQ%3D
=0

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.audio
games.net%2Ftopic%2F41363%2Fpetition-to-get-windoweyes-screen-reader-back-on
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7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151903143996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZs
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reserved=0

On Mar 21, 2023, at 9:51 AM, David Hoff Jr via Talk

 wrote:

I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago,
on Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup
that I have an evaluation copy only and should contact  the I Square

office.

So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop
working in the near future.

RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

2023-03-23 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
Hello,

Yes, I get the evaluation message, and my outlook enhanced app isn't working.
Thanks,
Darrell

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On Behalf Of 
Amanda Lee via Talk
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 3:42 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Cc: amandainparadise...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

Actually Window-Eyes for Office still works, provided you have a licensed 
version of Microsoft Office.

I had some issues for awhile, but when I recently set up a new computer, it was 
really easiest for me to run the file and use it to finish setting up the 
computer.

The annoying issue though is that Code Factory has shut down their server for 
the three different licenses that I purchased for Eloquence and none were fully 
used.

That's not related to GW Micro or Vispero.



-Original Message-
From: Talk
 On Behalf Of 
Darrell Bowles via Talk
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:58 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Darrell Bowles 
Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

I wish that windowe eyes for office still worked.
Thanks,
Darrell


-Original Message-
From: Talk  On Behalf Of 
Amanda Lee via Talk
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:45 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Cc: amandainparadise...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

Unfortunately, although I agree with the sentiments, there are flaws in this 
petition.

It is not going to occur, that if a company purchased other competing 
businesses to promote their own, that they will regard this as anything but a 
hostile demand.

What I would like to see however, is that at least the fully developed version 
of Window-Eyes was still available to purchase or upgrade as well as that itps 
related apps and software is made available for access to licensed owners of 
the software.

I wish you luck and hope that I am incorrect that Vispero will allow another 
Screen Reader to compete with JAWS or Fusion.

Kind regards,

Amanda Lee



-Original Message-
From: Talk
 On Behalf Of 
Sky Mundell via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 5:02 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Sky Mundell 
Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don't think there is a way to fix 
the problem.
Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it 
probably won't make a difference. Here it is.
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.change%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C7ae94aa6ed4c4c8f9f0408db2bd6bfc2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151973555956210%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=E5CiZ804XvHpv2lIaszcWzrJ%2BIgh%2BV8Vhds0Vq%2FW7Uk%3D=0.
org%2Fp%2Fvispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-th
e-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d6228
4c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6381519031
43996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI
6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=uwNEqT%2B6ml6mAsmH0e9S34jlK%2B
glfV8941DmxBtQU90%3D=0
Then, after I did the petition, I put the petition on the audio games.net forum
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.audio%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C7ae94aa6ed4c4c8f9f0408db2bd6bfc2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151973555956210%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=nqoRfjweo4rs1ppftwsf%2FqVj6uqpzhsWZgjqsbD2NMA%3D=0
games.net%2Ftopic%2F47955%2Fwhy-i-did-the-petition-to-get-the-windoweyes-scr
een-reader-back%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d62284c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df
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=0

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.audio%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C7ae94aa6ed4c4c8f9f0408db2bd6bfc2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151973555956210%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=nqoRfjweo4rs1ppftwsf%2FqVj6uqpzhsWZgjqsbD2NMA%3D=0
games.net%2Ftopic%2F41363%2Fpetition-to-get-windoweyes-screen-reader-back-on
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7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151903143996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZs
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reserved=0
> On Mar 21, 2023, at 9:51 AM, David Hoff Jr via Talk
 wrote:
> 
> I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, 
> on Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootu

RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

2023-03-23 Thread Amanda Lee via Talk
Actually Window-Eyes for Office still works, provided you have a licensed
version of Microsoft Office.

I had some issues for awhile, but when I recently set up a new computer, it
was really easiest for me to run the file and use it to finish setting up
the computer.

The annoying issue though is that Code Factory has shut down their server
for the three different licenses that I purchased for Eloquence and none
were fully used.

That's not related to GW Micro or Vispero.



-Original Message-
From: Talk
 On Behalf
Of Darrell Bowles via Talk
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:58 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Darrell Bowles 
Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

I wish that windowe eyes for office still worked.
Thanks,
Darrell


-Original Message-
From: Talk  On Behalf
Of Amanda Lee via Talk
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:45 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Cc: amandainparadise...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

Unfortunately, although I agree with the sentiments, there are flaws in this
petition.

It is not going to occur, that if a company purchased other competing
businesses to promote their own, that they will regard this as anything but
a hostile demand.

What I would like to see however, is that at least the fully developed
version of Window-Eyes was still available to purchase or upgrade as well as
that itps related apps and software is made available for access to licensed
owners of the software.

I wish you luck and hope that I am incorrect that Vispero will allow another
Screen Reader to compete with JAWS or Fusion.

Kind regards,

Amanda Lee



-Original Message-
From: Talk
 On Behalf
Of Sky Mundell via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 5:02 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Sky Mundell 
Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don't think there is a way to
fix the problem.
Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it
probably won't make a difference. Here it is.
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.change.
org%2Fp%2Fvispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-th
e-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d6228
4c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6381519031
43996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI
6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=uwNEqT%2B6ml6mAsmH0e9S34jlK%2B
glfV8941DmxBtQU90%3D=0
Then, after I did the petition, I put the petition on the audio games.net
forum
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.audio
games.net%2Ftopic%2F47955%2Fwhy-i-did-the-petition-to-get-the-windoweyes-scr
een-reader-back%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d62284c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df
9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151903143996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbG
Zsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3
000%7C%7C%7C=rTHSQ69hxEJLtT1EQqlG7Gj9%2F5QZgekc5bGNcAITgPQ%3D
=0

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.audio
games.net%2Ftopic%2F41363%2Fpetition-to-get-windoweyes-screen-reader-back-on
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reserved=0
> On Mar 21, 2023, at 9:51 AM, David Hoff Jr via Talk
 wrote:
> 
> I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, 
> on Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup 
> that I have an evaluation copy only and should contact  the I Square
office.
> 
> So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop 
> working in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and 
> if so what is the sollution?  Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 
> update that is causing the problem and if so which update?
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions.
> --
> 
> 
> ___
> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the
author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared.
> 
> For membership options, visit
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-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Fskyt%2540shaw.ca=05%7C
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WpYVP59kxgPiSKZTuj8SEVp5F3%2B39bHnY%3D=0.
> For subscription options, visit
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RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

2023-03-23 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
I wish that windowe eyes for office still worked.
Thanks,
Darrell


-Original Message-
From: Talk  On Behalf Of 
Amanda Lee via Talk
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:45 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Cc: amandainparadise...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

Unfortunately, although I agree with the sentiments, there are flaws in this 
petition.

It is not going to occur, that if a company purchased other competing 
businesses to promote their own, that they will regard this as anything but a 
hostile demand.

What I would like to see however, is that at least the fully developed version 
of Window-Eyes was still available to purchase or upgrade as well as that itps 
related apps and software is made available for access to licensed owners of 
the software.

I wish you luck and hope that I am incorrect that Vispero will allow another 
Screen Reader to compete with JAWS or Fusion.

Kind regards,

Amanda Lee



-Original Message-
From: Talk  
On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 5:02 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Sky Mundell 
Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don't think there is a way to fix 
the problem.
Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it 
probably won't make a difference. Here it is.
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.change.org%2Fp%2Fvispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-the-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d62284c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151903143996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=uwNEqT%2B6ml6mAsmH0e9S34jlK%2BglfV8941DmxBtQU90%3D=0
Then, after I did the petition, I put the petition on the audio games.net forum 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.audiogames.net%2Ftopic%2F47955%2Fwhy-i-did-the-petition-to-get-the-windoweyes-screen-reader-back%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d62284c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151903143996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=rTHSQ69hxEJLtT1EQqlG7Gj9%2F5QZgekc5bGNcAITgPQ%3D=0

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.audiogames.net%2Ftopic%2F41363%2Fpetition-to-get-windoweyes-screen-reader-back-onto-the-market%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d62284c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151903143996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=2%2Fujj2W9DTqagau%2BOnXY5q1wD71c%2Bh%2F%2B3jZm1qBD%2FEI%3D=0
> On Mar 21, 2023, at 9:51 AM, David Hoff Jr via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, 
> on Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup 
> that I have an evaluation copy only and should contact  the I Square office.
> 
> So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop 
> working in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and 
> if so what is the sollution?  Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 
> update that is causing the problem and if so which update?
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions.
> --
> 
> 
> ___
> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author 
> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared.
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RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

2023-03-23 Thread Amanda Lee via Talk
Unfortunately, although I agree with the sentiments, there are flaws in this 
petition.

It is not going to occur, that if a company purchased other competing 
businesses to promote their own, that they will regard this as anything but a 
hostile demand.

What I would like to see however, is that at least the fully developed version 
of Window-Eyes was still available to purchase or upgrade as well as that itps 
related apps and software is made available for access to licensed owners of 
the software.

I wish you luck and hope that I am incorrect that Vispero will allow another 
Screen Reader to compete with JAWS or Fusion.

Kind regards,

Amanda Lee



-Original Message-
From: Talk  
On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 5:02 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Sky Mundell 
Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don’t think there is a way to fix 
the problem.
Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it 
probably won’t make a difference. Here it is.
https://www.change.org/p/vispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-the-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad
Then, after I did the petition, I put the petition on the audio games.net forum 
https://forum.audiogames.net/topic/47955/why-i-did-the-petition-to-get-the-windoweyes-screen-reader-back/

https://forum.audiogames.net/topic/41363/petition-to-get-windoweyes-screen-reader-back-onto-the-market/
> On Mar 21, 2023, at 9:51 AM, David Hoff Jr via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, 
> on Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup 
> that I have an evaluation copy only and should contact  the I Square office.
> 
> So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop 
> working in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and 
> if so what is the sollution?  Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 
> update that is causing the problem and if so which update?
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions.
> --
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Re: Possible fix, was Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

2023-03-22 Thread David Pedersen via Talk
By earlier experience: When this kind of behavior has shown up in 
the past - this it seems to do every now and then - all I have had to do is to 
hard-boot my computer. That is shut it all down, and start it up again. Seems 
waking it up from sleep mode does not work, as it will only reload memory. Even 
restarting it, warm-booting, seems not to do the trick. Have no clue why it 
pops up once in a while. Get a feeling it happens upon some update 
installations of Windows itself.
  

From: Talk  on 
behalf of Mike via Talk 
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 2:06 PM
To: Stephen Clower via Talk 
Cc: Mike 
Subject: Re: Possible fix, was Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an 
evaluation copy

Hello


I have tried the suggestion for a fix and it seems to have worked.
Instead of adding a line under misc, I simply edited the existing line
and changed it from a 1 to a 0.


Best wishe




Mike

On 21/03/2023 21:01, Stephen Clower via Talk wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> To work around the evaluation copy error message when WE starts up, do the 
> following:
>
> 1.  From the Window-Eyes control panel, go to File -> Explore Profile Folder.
> 2.  Open the wineyes.ini file.
> 3.  Add the following line to the [misc] section:
> AllowUpgradeCheckOnStartup=0
> 4.  Save the file.
> 5.  Back in Window-Eyes, go through each running app under the Apps menu, and 
> set them all to no longer check for updates at startup.
> 6.  Restart the program.
>
> Once done, you should, in theory, be all set. This tip was passed along to me 
> from a reliable source who would prefer to remain anonymous. I hope it helps 
> someone.
>
> Best,
> Steve
>
>
>> On Mar 21, 2023, at 2:44 PM, Amanda Lee via Talk 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> If you have Office installed, WE for Office may still work.  So ...
>> ironically! It might work albeit it is older than the last release of
>> Window-Eyes.
>> This is so unfortunate and it's ... well, there are no words.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>>  On Behalf
>> Of Stephen Clower via Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 2:07 PM
>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Stephen Clower ; Window Eyes Email List
>> 
>> Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> It appears that Vispero have completely taken down all GW Micro-related
>> pages and services without any warning. This is likely the reason for the
>> errant message on startup. I expect checking for updates, downloading apps,
>> and the like are completely busted now.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 21, 2023, at 12:51 PM, David Hoff Jr via Talk
>>  wrote:
>>> I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago,
>>> on Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup
>>> that I have an evaluation copy only and should contact  the I Square
>> office.
>>> So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop
>>> working in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and
>>> if so what is the sollution?  Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7
>>> update that is causing the problem and if so which update?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any suggestions.
>>> --
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Re: Possible fix, was Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

2023-03-22 Thread Mike via Talk

Hello


I have tried the suggestion for a fix and it seems to have worked.  
Instead of adding a line under misc, I simply edited the existing line 
and changed it from a 1 to a 0.



Best wishe




Mike

On 21/03/2023 21:01, Stephen Clower via Talk wrote:

Greetings,

To work around the evaluation copy error message when WE starts up, do the 
following:

1.  From the Window-Eyes control panel, go to File -> Explore Profile Folder.
2.  Open the wineyes.ini file.
3.  Add the following line to the [misc] section:
AllowUpgradeCheckOnStartup=0
4.  Save the file.
5.  Back in Window-Eyes, go through each running app under the Apps menu, and 
set them all to no longer check for updates at startup.
6.  Restart the program.

Once done, you should, in theory, be all set. This tip was passed along to me 
from a reliable source who would prefer to remain anonymous. I hope it helps 
someone.

Best,
Steve



On Mar 21, 2023, at 2:44 PM, Amanda Lee via Talk  
wrote:

If you have Office installed, WE for Office may still work.  So ...
ironically! It might work albeit it is older than the last release of
Window-Eyes.
This is so unfortunate and it's ... well, there are no words.



-Original Message-
From: Talk
 On Behalf
Of Stephen Clower via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 2:07 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Stephen Clower ; Window Eyes Email List

Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

Hi all,

It appears that Vispero have completely taken down all GW Micro-related
pages and services without any warning. This is likely the reason for the
errant message on startup. I expect checking for updates, downloading apps,
and the like are completely busted now.

Steve



On Mar 21, 2023, at 12:51 PM, David Hoff Jr via Talk

 wrote:

I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago,
on Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup
that I have an evaluation copy only and should contact  the I Square

office.

So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop
working in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and
if so what is the sollution?  Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7
update that is causing the problem and if so which update?

Thanks for any suggestions.
--


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RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

2023-03-21 Thread Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Mr. Clower, wow, so good to read from you in this space!  Reading your
thoughts in this space brings back yesterday's memories when you and Gerry
and Mike amongst others were helping me and my company with making the
Moneygram app more accessible using Window-Eyes!

Thank you for the great work you all did.  I plan to LEAVE THIS LIST soon,
but I wanted to be able to say THANK YOU to as many GW Micro employees in
this space as possible that made sure I stayed SUBSTANTIALLY GAINFULLY
EMPLOYED.  

I am internally and externally grateful to you all; no other screen reader
has helped me TO BEAT THE ODDS, only Window-Eyes!  I sure hope that some
sweet day, it can still be resuscitated in my life time.  Take care sire,
God richly bless and keep you all!!


Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado









HI, I AM ANDROID, THE THINKING PERSON'S OS!!

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RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

2023-03-21 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
There is a button that you can use to sign it

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goshawk on horseback via Talk
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Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
Importance: High

can't seem to find any link or button to sign the petition.

Simon


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From: "Sky Mundell via Talk" 
To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Sky Mundell" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy


> Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don’t think there is a way 
> to fix the problem.
> Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it 
> probably won’t make a difference. Here it is.
> https://www.change.org/p/vispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-the-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad
> Then, after I did the petition, I put the petition on the audio games.net 
> forum
> https://forum.audiogames.net/topic/47955/why-i-did-the-petition-to-get-the-windoweyes-screen-reader-back/
>
> https://forum.audiogames.net/topic/41363/petition-to-get-windoweyes-screen-reader-back-onto-the-market/
>> On Mar 21, 2023, at 9:51 AM, David Hoff Jr via Talk 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, on
>> Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup that I
>> have an evaluation copy only and should contact  the I Square office.
>>
>> So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop working
>> in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and if so what
>> is the sollution?  Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 update that is
>> causing the problem and if so which update?
>>
>> Thanks for any suggestions.
>> -- 
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Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

2023-03-21 Thread goshawk on horseback via Talk

can't seem to find any link or button to sign the petition.

Simon


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From: "Sky Mundell via Talk" 

To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Sky Mundell" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy


Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don’t think there is a way 
to fix the problem.
Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it 
probably won’t make a difference. Here it is.

https://www.change.org/p/vispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-the-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad
Then, after I did the petition, I put the petition on the audio games.net 
forum

https://forum.audiogames.net/topic/47955/why-i-did-the-petition-to-get-the-windoweyes-screen-reader-back/

https://forum.audiogames.net/topic/41363/petition-to-get-windoweyes-screen-reader-back-onto-the-market/
On Mar 21, 2023, at 9:51 AM, David Hoff Jr via Talk 
 wrote:


I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, on
Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup that I
have an evaluation copy only and should contact  the I Square office.

So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop working
in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and if so what
is the sollution?  Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 update that is
causing the problem and if so which update?

Thanks for any suggestions.
--


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Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

2023-03-21 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don’t think there is a way to fix 
the problem.
Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it 
probably won’t make a difference. Here it is.
https://www.change.org/p/vispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-the-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad
Then, after I did the petition, I put the petition on the audio games.net forum
https://forum.audiogames.net/topic/47955/why-i-did-the-petition-to-get-the-windoweyes-screen-reader-back/

https://forum.audiogames.net/topic/41363/petition-to-get-windoweyes-screen-reader-back-onto-the-market/
> On Mar 21, 2023, at 9:51 AM, David Hoff Jr via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, on
> Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup that I
> have an evaluation copy only and should contact  the I Square office.
> 
> So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop working
> in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and if so what
> is the sollution?  Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 update that is
> causing the problem and if so which update?
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions.
> -- 
> 
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Possible fix, was Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

2023-03-21 Thread Stephen Clower via Talk
Greetings,

To work around the evaluation copy error message when WE starts up, do the 
following:

1.  From the Window-Eyes control panel, go to File -> Explore Profile Folder.
2.  Open the wineyes.ini file.
3.  Add the following line to the [misc] section:
AllowUpgradeCheckOnStartup=0
4.  Save the file.
5.  Back in Window-Eyes, go through each running app under the Apps menu, and 
set them all to no longer check for updates at startup.
6.  Restart the program.

Once done, you should, in theory, be all set. This tip was passed along to me 
from a reliable source who would prefer to remain anonymous. I hope it helps 
someone.

Best,
Steve


> On Mar 21, 2023, at 2:44 PM, Amanda Lee via Talk  
> wrote:
> 
> If you have Office installed, WE for Office may still work.  So ...
> ironically! It might work albeit it is older than the last release of
> Window-Eyes.
> This is so unfortunate and it's ... well, there are no words.
> 
> 
> 
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> Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> It appears that Vispero have completely taken down all GW Micro-related
> pages and services without any warning. This is likely the reason for the
> errant message on startup. I expect checking for updates, downloading apps,
> and the like are completely busted now.
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
>> On Mar 21, 2023, at 12:51 PM, David Hoff Jr via Talk
>  wrote:
>> 
>> I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, 
>> on Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup 
>> that I have an evaluation copy only and should contact  the I Square
> office.
>> 
>> So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop 
>> working in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and 
>> if so what is the sollution?  Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 
>> update that is causing the problem and if so which update?
>> 
>> Thanks for any suggestions.
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RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

2023-03-21 Thread Amanda Lee via Talk
If you have Office installed, WE for Office may still work.  So ...
ironically! It might work albeit it is older than the last release of
Window-Eyes.
This is so unfortunate and it's ... well, there are no words.



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Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

Hi all,

It appears that Vispero have completely taken down all GW Micro-related
pages and services without any warning. This is likely the reason for the
errant message on startup. I expect checking for updates, downloading apps,
and the like are completely busted now.

Steve


> On Mar 21, 2023, at 12:51 PM, David Hoff Jr via Talk
 wrote:
> 
> I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, 
> on Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup 
> that I have an evaluation copy only and should contact  the I Square
office.
> 
> So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop 
> working in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and 
> if so what is the sollution?  Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 
> update that is causing the problem and if so which update?
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions.
> --
> 
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Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

2023-03-21 Thread Stephen Clower via Talk
Hi all,

It appears that Vispero have completely taken down all GW Micro-related pages 
and services without any warning. This is likely the reason for the errant 
message on startup. I expect checking for updates, downloading apps, and the 
like are completely busted now.

Steve


> On Mar 21, 2023, at 12:51 PM, David Hoff Jr via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, on
> Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup that I
> have an evaluation copy only and should contact  the I Square office.
> 
> So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop working
> in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and if so what
> is the sollution?  Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 update that is
> causing the problem and if so which update?
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions.
> -- 
> 
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Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

2023-03-21 Thread E. via Talk
Hello:
Is any waI cobtain a copy of WW-EyesI’d love to have a copy.
Regards,

Ernest.
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> On Mar 21, 2023, at 9:52 AM, David Hoff Jr via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, on
> Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup that I
> have an evaluation copy only and should contact  the I Square office.
> 
> So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop working
> in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and if so what
> is the sollution?  Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 update that is
> causing the problem and if so which update?
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions.
> -- 
> 
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Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

2023-03-21 Thread Mike via Talk

Hello David


I'm not sure there is a solution.  I am using windows 10 and 11. I am 
getting exactly the same issue on both machines.  I am very sorry to say 
that I have come to the conclsion that Window-eyes is almost at the end 
of it's life.  I hope I am wrong but I don't think so.



Rod suggested that it sounds like Microsoft isn't supporting WE any more.


Best wishes


Mike.


On 21/03/2023 16:51, David Hoff Jr via Talk wrote:

I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, on
Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup that I
have an evaluation copy only and should contact  the I Square office.

So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop working
in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and if so what
is the sollution?  Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 update that is
causing the problem and if so which update?

Thanks for any suggestions.

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