[videoblogging] Re: Full Screen Flash 8 HD Video

2007-11-10 Thread Bill Cammack
Didn't know that about tinyurl, as far as it being blocked because of
spam.  Good point.  I'll post actual permalinks whenever I post
tinyurl links.

Here's the one to the tinyurl for this topic:

http://www.interactivedna.com/HD_FullScreen/

--
Bill Cammack
http://CammackMediaGroup.com


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Erick Papadakis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wow, this is quite amazing, although here in Asia the flow is a little
 feretty from time to time as the video buffers. But when it's there,
 it is absolutely mindboggling.
 
 Btw, I had to see it through a proxy. Could you guys please use
 snipurl.com or something else -- tiny url is supposedly a spammer's
 haven and many ISPs block it. Better still is to give the original URL
 along with the snipped URL, as some of us use email clients which can
 show the long version just fine.
 
 Anyway, great work!
 
 
 
 On Nov 10, 2007 9:11 AM, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 
  Looks great to me. :)
 
  Full-Screen Flash 8 HD Video = http://tinyurl.com/2g9ndq
 
  --
  Bill Cammack
  http://CammackMediaGroup.com





[videoblogging] Re: Full Screen Flash 8 HD Video

2007-11-10 Thread Steve Watkins
Aha its nice to see HD back on the agenda :)

A few details:

Current version of flash can do high def, but the 'moviestar' version that is 
in beta has the 
following advantages:

h264 support
vp6 codec now has a version that uses less cpu
hardware scaling support in fullscreen (uses less cpu than existing fullscreen 
method)

If you have a mac, the moviestar version of flash 9 was updated in November, I 
guess to 
improve performance on the mac: 
http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html

Vime is doing true HD, and we are talking 720P (1280x720 24fps). I asuume their 
stuff 
works on the non-beta flash player, and so is using vp6 codec rather than h264.

The vimeo HD FAQ has some good info  encoding tips: http://vimeo.com/help/hd
They advise people to upload in h264, but as I said Im assuming they convert to 
vp6 for 
now, and this may change once Moviestar is out of beta.

Im not sure whether the Shrek etc demos are using h264 or not, the fact they 
mention 
Flash 8 makes me guess its vp6, but they do use the hardware-accelerated 
fullscreen 
mode, which will only work if you have the flash beta.

In practice both vp6 and h264 will be rather nice for 720P stuff, so many of 
these details 
wont matter to vloggers, especially if they have a video host like Vimeo 
worrying about the 
details. You are then free to concentrate on getting the HD content you upload 
to your 
host, to be the best queality, eg you must deinterlace. 

I was waiting for the moviestar flash to get out of beta, so I could use 720P 
h264 that I 
had encoded  hosted myself, with the knowledge that the fullscreen mode would 
be 
smoother for people, and would hopefully run better on slightly slower 
computers than 
can currently handle this stuff.

An I still think decisions about whether to go to HD depend on what sort of 
content you 
produce, it probably wont ad that much to some vlogs, whilst others will really 
shine with 
the extra resolution.

Even if people dont want to up their resolution, I really do recommend people 
try higher 
framerates, the era of 12fps should really be over by now, and it really change 
the feel of 
content.

Cheers

Steve Elbows
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Loiez D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all
 
 I just try VimeoHD
 I think it's the same thing
 
 a test here
 http://www.vimeo.com/373559
 
 Cheers
 
 Loiez
 
 
 Le 10 nov. 07 à 02:11, Bill Cammack a écrit :
 
  Looks great to me. :)
 
  Full-Screen Flash 8 HD Video = http://tinyurl.com/2g9ndq
 
  --
  Bill Cammack
  http://CammackMediaGroup.com
 
 
  
 
 Loiez D.
 http://www.loiez.org
 skype:ultimcodex
 
 
 
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: Full Screen Flash 8 HD Video

2007-11-10 Thread Steve Watkins
Well when people think blueray, they think of the physical discs, so its not 
been 
mentioned by vloggers much.

So when you say you think its the future, do you mean on the net as well? If 
so, you are 
really talking about the video codecs that blueray uses, not the format itself 
which is 
bound to physical discs.

Blueray supports mpeg2, h264 (also knows as AVC), and VC-1. Mpeg2 is not really 
considered suitable for the web, but h264 and vc-1 are both used on the net a 
lot today, 
albeit not normally at very high resolutions yet.

At both normal and HD resolutions, here are your options for using these 
formats on the 
web:

h264 can be played via quicktime in the browser, and by the forthcoming flash 
moviestar 
version.

vc-1 can be played by windows media player, and silverlight.

vp6 can be played by flash.

All of them offer fairly comparable quality  filesizes, vp6 and h264 will 
probably have a 
huge advantage due to the dominance of flash these days, but if Silverlight 
ever catches on 
then VC-1 may find a place in the scene too.

Cheers

Steve Elbows
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, blurayvideoblogger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 this is pretty crazy, you guys.  i have to say though, i think blu-ray
 is the ultimate future.  have any of you looked into that yet?  let me
 know - get in touch.
 
 thanks,
 john
 




[videoblogging] Re: Full Screen Flash 8 HD Video

2007-11-10 Thread Steve Watkins
Well when people think blueray, they think of the physical discs, so its not 
been 
mentioned by vloggers much.

So when you say you think its the future, do you mean on the net as well? If 
so, you are 
really talking about the video codecs that blueray uses, not the format itself 
which is 
bound to physical discs.

Blueray supports mpeg2, h264 (also knows as AVC), and VC-1. Mpeg2 is not really 
considered suitable for the web, but h264 and vc-1 are both used on the net a 
lot today, 
albeit not normally at very high resolutions yet.

At both normal and HD resolutions, here are your options for using these 
formats on the 
web:

h264 can be played via quicktime in the browser, and by the forthcoming flash 
moviestar 
version.

vc-1 can be played by windows media player, and silverlight.

vp6 can be played by flash.

All of them offer fairly comparable quality  filesizes, vp6 and h264 will 
probably have a 
huge advantage due to the dominance of flash these days, but if Silverlight 
ever catches on 
then VC-1 may find a place in the scene too.

Cheers

Steve Elbows
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, blurayvideoblogger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 this is pretty crazy, you guys.  i have to say though, i think blu-ray
 is the ultimate future.  have any of you looked into that yet?  let me
 know - get in touch.
 
 thanks,
 john
 




[videoblogging] Re: Full Screen Flash 8 HD Video

2007-11-09 Thread bordercollieaustralianshepherd
Nice find - I am having connection issues, big/several buffering
breaks but looked good when playing in full screen mode (between
buffering)

There is a controller and it has a menu. Click it and you'll get two
other trailers (Bee Movie  Bucket List) and a link to email the creator. 

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Looks great to me. :)
 
 Full-Screen Flash 8 HD Video = http://tinyurl.com/2g9ndq
 
 --
 Bill Cammack
 http://CammackMediaGroup.com





[videoblogging] Re: Full Screen Flash 8 HD Video

2007-11-09 Thread Steve Garfield
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Looks great to me. :)
 
 Full-Screen Flash 8 HD Video = http://tinyurl.com/2g9ndq
 
 --
 Bill Cammack
 http://CammackMediaGroup.com



OK Bill, thank you for showing me the future.

How can 320x240 and 640x480 compare to HD?

Wow...

I know it's supposed to be all about the content, but we/ve go to get on the 
full screen 
bandwagon.

I'm impressed.



[videoblogging] Re: Full Screen Flash 8 HD Video

2007-11-09 Thread Chuck Olsen
Hate to add the most useless comment ever,

but WOW that looks incredible.



[videoblogging] Re: Full Screen Flash 8 HD Video

2007-11-09 Thread blurayvideoblogger
this is pretty crazy, you guys.  i have to say though, i think blu-ray
is the ultimate future.  have any of you looked into that yet?  let me
know - get in touch.

thanks,
john

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Erick Papadakis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wow, this is quite amazing, although here in Asia the flow is a little
 feretty from time to time as the video buffers. But when it's there,
 it is absolutely mindboggling.
 
 Btw, I had to see it through a proxy. Could you guys please use
 snipurl.com or something else -- tiny url is supposedly a spammer's
 haven and many ISPs block it. Better still is to give the original URL
 along with the snipped URL, as some of us use email clients which can
 show the long version just fine.
 
 Anyway, great work!
 
 
 
 On Nov 10, 2007 9:11 AM, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 
  Looks great to me. :)
 
  Full-Screen Flash 8 HD Video = http://tinyurl.com/2g9ndq
 
  --
  Bill Cammack
  http://CammackMediaGroup.com