[videoblogging] Fwd: While Web 2.0 happens, I observe day laborers

2007-04-18 Thread sull
An Eric Rice request.

http://www.ericrice.com/blog/?p=476

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From: Eric Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Apr 17, 2007 9:09 PM
Subject: While Web 2.0 happens, I observe day laborers
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 In my rural Silicon Valley town, there are day
laborershttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_laborer,
who line both sides of Main Street near the Caltrain station. They wait
eagerly for any work, no matter how back-breaking or menial. Some
construction crew, someone needing yardwork– anything– to get a few extra
dollars.

I saw them this morning when I went to the grocery after dropping the kids
off at school. I saw them again at lunch time when I went to the bank,
albeit, in much smaller numbers.

Some of them retired to the shade in the parking lot of the bank– I didn't
see them at first until I pulled my truck into the parking lot. For a split
second, their faces lit up. A truck!

But alas, I had no work for them. I was going to the bank.

They weren't listening to podcasts, they weren't Twittering, and I'm pretty
sure I didn't see any webcams attached to their heads documenting the
minutia of waiting. No, I'm pretty sure I didn't.

I will stop writing now, because I want someone else to write the second
part of this article. I want someone in San Francisco at the Web
2.0conference to continue this article. I want the folks at Google to
continue
this article. Snap.com. Justin.tv. Scoble. Rubel. Arrington. Calcanis. Pick
any names. Pick any company. Pick someone in the so-called 2.0 space…

…to continue this story.

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Re: [videoblogging] Fwd: While Web 2.0 happens, I observe day laborers

2007-04-18 Thread Rupert
Yeah, it's interesting - I rambled a reply on his site last night.

As far as I can see, he's ranting about the narrow mindedness of a  
particular silicon valley crowd of web2 geeks  commentators... and  
to an extent, he's right to call them on it.  I mean, Justin.tv is a  
bit of a wasted opportunity.  BUT...

i don't really see the group he's talking about as having much of a  
crossover here.

most people here are content makers - or are interested in what the  
tech can *do* for us... rather than in tech for tech's sake.

and although we're still a small crowd, we have more in common with  
the much larger numbers of people who will follow: some of whom  
previously would have created documentaries or drama for TV with a  
social agenda.  It's getting much harder to get docs on TV, and  
easier to get them seen online.

We, as a group - and those who will join us when the audiences grow -  
do have a more outward vision, generally, than the people Eric is  
complaining about.

The first things that pop into my head are Ryanishungry's green  
geeks, Swajana, Alive in Baghdad and there are many more people  
out there not just banging on about the technology, but using it for  
a Social end, and giving voices to other communities, such as these  
day laborers.  I mean, GOD, most of us document specific things -  
personal or otherwise - which have value outside tech commentary.

*Of course* the responsibility for spreading the democratising power  
of these tools will lie in the hands of the content makers, not the   
geeks who invent and develop the tools.  We've just got to bring more  
and more videomakers to the web who have something to say.  I  
converted one of these - a documentary maker - only yesterday.

Rupert

On 18 Apr 2007, at 07:12, sull wrote:

An Eric Rice request.

http://www.ericrice.com/blog/?p=476

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From: Eric Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Apr 17, 2007 9:09 PM
Subject: While Web 2.0 happens, I observe day laborers
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  In my rural Silicon Valley town, there are day
laborershttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_laborer,
who line both sides of Main Street near the Caltrain station. They wait
eagerly for any work, no matter how back-breaking or menial. Some
construction crew, someone needing yardwork– anything– to get a few  
extra
dollars.

I saw them this morning when I went to the grocery after dropping the  
kids
off at school. I saw them again at lunch time when I went to the bank,
albeit, in much smaller numbers.

Some of them retired to the shade in the parking lot of the bank– I  
didn't
see them at first until I pulled my truck into the parking lot. For a  
split
second, their faces lit up. A truck!

But alas, I had no work for them. I was going to the bank.

They weren't listening to podcasts, they weren't Twittering, and I'm  
pretty
sure I didn't see any webcams attached to their heads documenting the
minutia of waiting. No, I'm pretty sure I didn't.

I will stop writing now, because I want someone else to write the second
part of this article. I want someone in San Francisco at the Web
2.0conference to continue this article. I want the folks at Google to
continue
this article. Snap.com. Justin.tv. Scoble. Rubel. Arrington.  
Calcanis. Pick
any names. Pick any company. Pick someone in the so-called 2.0 space



to continue this story.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: twitter and orginizers

2007-04-18 Thread Jan McLaughlin
http://www.mychores.co.uk/

This synchs with Twitter.

Jan

On 4/17/07, Aldon Hynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 However, you could use twitterfeed to subscribe to the RSS feed of your
 Google Calendar.  (Hmm, maybe I'll have to try that)

 Aldon


 Posted by: Adam Quirk, Wreck  Salvage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 cassiusbullemhead
 Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:19 am (PST)
 Google calendar can do that. You can set it to send txt reminders an hour
 before meetings, or any amount of time you want. It also sends a daily
 agenda with everything you have going on that day. I love it and use it
 daily.

 Pretty sure Twitter doesn't do this (yet).




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Re: [videoblogging] Fork You: Cooking with a Philly Attitude

2007-04-18 Thread Jan McLaughlin
You two are hilarious.

Welcome to the vlogosphere!

Jan

On 4/17/07, Scott McNulty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I joined this group awhile ago, and I don't often come out of lurker
 mode, but I thought I would share my newish (kinda) videoblog with
 everyone.  I didn't want to email everyone until I was sure we would
 keep it up, but since I just posted our 18th episode, I think it is
 safe to say we are going to keep doing it:

 http://www.forkyou.tv

 It is a cooking show that plays on that age old formula of pairing an
 idiot (that would be me) with a knowledgeable person (Marisa) to
 create informative and, we hope, entertaining shows.

 Let me know what you all think.

 Oh, and I know the color isn't all that great.  Sadly, I am partially
 color blind and I just can't seem to get the colors to match.

 Thanks,
 Scott

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Re: [videoblogging] Fork You: Cooking with a Philly Attitude

2007-04-18 Thread Rupert
Great.  And I like that Viddler player, too.

On 18 Apr 2007, at 09:26, Jan McLaughlin wrote:

You two are hilarious.

Welcome to the vlogosphere!

Jan

On 4/17/07, Scott McNulty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I joined this group awhile ago, and I don't often come out of lurker
  mode, but I thought I would share my newish (kinda) videoblog with
  everyone. I didn't want to email everyone until I was sure we would
  keep it up, but since I just posted our 18th episode, I think it is
  safe to say we are going to keep doing it:
 
  http://www.forkyou.tv
 
  It is a cooking show that plays on that age old formula of pairing an
  idiot (that would be me) with a knowledgeable person (Marisa) to
  create informative and, we hope, entertaining shows.
 
  Let me know what you all think.
 
  Oh, and I know the color isn't all that great. Sadly, I am partially
  color blind and I just can't seem to get the colors to match.
 
  Thanks,
  Scott
 
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  http://blog.blankbaby.com
  http://www.forkyou.tv
  http://www.tuaw.com
 
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Fork You: Cooking with a Philly Attitude

2007-04-18 Thread Irina
great job!
dont forget to submit your show to the vloggies cooking category
i cant wait to see who wins this year!

On 4/18/07, Jan McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   You two are hilarious.

 Welcome to the vlogosphere!

 Jan

 On 4/17/07, Scott McNulty [EMAIL PROTECTED] smcnulty%40gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  I joined this group awhile ago, and I don't often come out of lurker
  mode, but I thought I would share my newish (kinda) videoblog with
  everyone. I didn't want to email everyone until I was sure we would
  keep it up, but since I just posted our 18th episode, I think it is
  safe to say we are going to keep doing it:
 
  http://www.forkyou.tv
 
  It is a cooking show that plays on that age old formula of pairing an
  idiot (that would be me) with a knowledgeable person (Marisa) to
  create informative and, we hope, entertaining shows.
 
  Let me know what you all think.
 
  Oh, and I know the color isn't all that great. Sadly, I am partially
  color blind and I just can't seem to get the colors to match.
 
  Thanks,
  Scott
 
  --
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  I blog:
  http://blog.blankbaby.com
  http://www.forkyou.tv
  http://www.tuaw.com
 
 
 
  Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 
 

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Re: [videoblogging] Fork You: Cooking with a Philly Attitude

2007-04-18 Thread j coffey
Hey Scott. I don't think being a little color blind
should effect your camera to much. Are you referring
to a lack of picking out the right colors to wear for
the shoot? Best of luck!
JCH
http://www.jchtv.com/

--- Scott McNulty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I joined this group awhile ago, and I don't often
 come out of lurker
 mode, but I thought I would share my newish (kinda)
 videoblog with
 everyone.  I didn't want to email everyone until I
 was sure we would
 keep it up, but since I just posted our 18th
 episode, I think it is
 safe to say we are going to keep doing it:
 
 http://www.forkyou.tv
 
 It is a cooking show that plays on that age old
 formula of pairing an
 idiot (that would be me) with a knowledgeable person
 (Marisa) to
 create informative and, we hope, entertaining shows.
 
 Let me know what you all think.
 
 Oh, and I know the color isn't all that great. 
 Sadly, I am partially
 color blind and I just can't seem to get the colors
 to match.
 
 Thanks,
 Scott
 
 -- 
 Scott McNulty
 I blog:
 http://blog.blankbaby.com
 http://www.forkyou.tv
 http://www.tuaw.com
 


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[videoblogging] Re: more Joost invites available

2007-04-18 Thread Chuck Leggett
All of the invites have been claimed.


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wrote:

 I've got four Joost invites left. Anyone who wants one, I need a name
 and email to setup the invite.
 
 Send info to this email address:
 
 runchuckrunatgmaildotcom
 
 
 Chuck
 
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 http://runchuckrun.blogspot.com





[videoblogging] Re: Our Apple TV Settings

2007-04-18 Thread Chumley
Thanks for the suggestion Brad, unfortunately my DV output renders are
25-30 gig so the 2 gig input limit is a no go for me.

Rev. Chumley
http://www.cultofuhf.com

]--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brad Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 MPEG Streamclip, free download, has an ipod setting with options for
 multipass and bit-rate limiting.  I like it, but I have no ipod to
 test it out.  MPEG Streamclip has a 2-gig input limit, fine for
 joining and transcoding from VOB, if you have DVD sources for your
 COUHF show.
   I run into trouble with my AVI exports from Virtualdub. 
 Uncompressed RGB allows me up to 90 seconds or some-such.  I get 9
 minutes from Panasonic DV codec.  However, transcoding to XviD
 at best quality could be suitable as an intermediate on the way to
 h.264 for your
 feature length movies.
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Chumley metaflibble@ wrote:
 
  My bad Steve, yeah your right its low-complexity instead of
simple. 
  
  Now that we have our words right again I ask the community, does
  anyone know of a good transcoder that handles the low-complexity
  h.264 MP4 conversions (640x480 ipod compatable with bitrate
  manipulation) on the PC?  
  
  I've tried Videora, but the darn thing loses sound sync so bad that
  its almost worthless.
  
  I would appreciate any tips all, I really would like to be able to go
  640x480 with my next episode.
  
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[videoblogging] twittervlog

2007-04-18 Thread Adam Quirk, Wreck Salvage
http://twittervlog.blogspot.com

Rupert Howe posts phone videos directly to Twitter.  It's a slice of London
life.  Pretty cool.

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[videoblogging] Microsoft vs. Adobe

2007-04-18 Thread WWWhatsup


http://gigaom.com/2007/04/15/another-fight-microsoft-vs-adobe/
Another fight … Microsoft vs. Adobe

It’s the season to rumble! Microsoft has just launched beta
of a new media technology called Silverlight that
essentially is going to compete with Adobe’s Flash
technology. Adobe, meanwhile has introduced Adobe Media
Player, a standalone media player that can be perceived as a
competitor to Windows Media Player. Microsoft has signed up
MLB as a partner for Silverlight. Adobe is working with
eBay, the Wall Street Journal says.

The new media player is an effort by Adobe to capture some
of the upside of the online video boom. It must “tweak their
melons” that a company that used their Flash technology, aka
YouTube got sold for $1.65 billion, and all they got was a
proverbial T-Shirt!

“The media companies have a lot of questions about the other
technology providers – are they becoming media companies or
becoming providers… We are not a media company,” Craig
Barberich, group product manager for Adobe Dynamic Media
Organization tells NewTeeVee. That’s a dig at iTunes as
well, because AMP does mimic many of the video features of
Apple’s digital media platform. Nevertheless, this promises
to be a long bloody fight, though Adobe has an advantage,
thanks to near omnipresence of Flash on all platforms.

As an aside, this is a flashback moment from the ’90s, when
competing technologies vied for consumer affection but
ending up causing more confusion.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB117668634225970835.html
http://blogs.msdn.com/tims/archive/2007/04/15/introducing-microsoft-silverlight.aspx
http://newteevee.com/2007/04/15/adobe-media-player/

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[videoblogging] Justine.TV's vlog

2007-04-18 Thread Enric
iJustine took over for Justin.tv on Tuesday.  She's in philadelphia
with a vlog:

http://virb.com/ijustine


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[videoblogging] Re: Microsoft vs. Adobe

2007-04-18 Thread Steve Watkins
I dont know what to think about the Adobe announcement, will have to
wait and see.

But as for the Microsoft announcement, all that is new is the name.
The beta has been around since Feb, it was previously known as WPF/E
and I talked about it here a little bit in the past.

I will go do a small piece on what Silverlight means to videobloggers
at this stage, I guess I should put it on the wiki.

The simple explanation is that if you dont use wmv format video at
all, theres no need to pay any attention to silverlight. If you do use
wmv, then you can look forward to a much better browser-based wmv
experience on PC and Mac, with the potential for the player to do the
sorts of things that we are getting used to flash players being able
to offer.

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, WWWhatsup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 http://gigaom.com/2007/04/15/another-fight-microsoft-vs-adobe/
 Another fight … Microsoft vs. Adobe
 
 It's the season to rumble! Microsoft has just launched beta
 of a new media technology called Silverlight that
 essentially is going to compete with Adobe's Flash
 technology. Adobe, meanwhile has introduced Adobe Media
 Player, a standalone media player that can be perceived as a
 competitor to Windows Media Player. Microsoft has signed up
 MLB as a partner for Silverlight. Adobe is working with
 eBay, the Wall Street Journal says.
 
 The new media player is an effort by Adobe to capture some
 of the upside of the online video boom. It must tweak their
 melons that a company that used their Flash technology, aka
 YouTube got sold for $1.65 billion, and all they got was a
 proverbial T-Shirt!
 
 The media companies have a lot of questions about the other
 technology providers – are they becoming media companies or
 becoming providers… We are not a media company, Craig
 Barberich, group product manager for Adobe Dynamic Media
 Organization tells NewTeeVee. That's a dig at iTunes as
 well, because AMP does mimic many of the video features of
 Apple's digital media platform. Nevertheless, this promises
 to be a long bloody fight, though Adobe has an advantage,
 thanks to near omnipresence of Flash on all platforms.
 
 As an aside, this is a flashback moment from the '90s, when
 competing technologies vied for consumer affection but
 ending up causing more confusion.
 
 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB117668634225970835.html

http://blogs.msdn.com/tims/archive/2007/04/15/introducing-microsoft-silverlight.aspx
 http://newteevee.com/2007/04/15/adobe-media-player/
 
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[videoblogging] Re: Final Cut Renders (and others)

2007-04-18 Thread Casey McKinnon
Great idea... too bad we're After Effects people :P

C.

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 In my recent reading about Galacticast's render time, it dawned on
me that
 we might be able to create our own little render farm. If you're
interested,
 speak up. I believe there's a way to do so, even across the net.
 
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[videoblogging] SOCAN Seeks $60 Annual Podcaster Fee

2007-04-18 Thread Casey McKinnon
WTF?

http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/1882/125/

C.

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[videoblogging] Re: SOCAN Seeks $60 Annual Podcaster Fee

2007-04-18 Thread Steve Watkins
It applies to copyrighted music, its the same sort of thing you need
if you run a club that plays music, or shopping mall or whatever. Its
not new and when similar decision on fee's was made in regards to US
internet radio, there were some who said it was too much and was
killing net radio.

I dont know how true it is, I just know it applies to all the usual
mainstream copyrighted stuff, and so the easierst way round it is not
to use copyrighted works.

Personally I would be really happy if there was a simialr thing for
online video, because it means for a price, people could easily use
copyrighted stuff in their shows, and actually have the proper right
to do so,m thus removing much grey. Right now we already assume that
we dont have the right to do that (apart from fair use stuff), and so
such a licence would be giving us an extra freedom that would cost
money, as opposed to applying a cost to something we could already
legitimately do for free.  

Cheers

Steve Elbows
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 WTF?
 
 http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/1882/125/
 
 C.
 
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Re: [videoblogging] SOCAN Seeks $60 Annual Podcaster Fee

2007-04-18 Thread David Meade
?!  ..  !?

On 4/18/07, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 WTF?

 http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/1882/125/

 C.

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[videoblogging] Re: SOCAN Seeks $60 Annual Podcaster Fee

2007-04-18 Thread Steve Watkins
Socan's own description of what they do in general, will hopefully
make sense of the issue. The problem is the term music being used too
broadly, the assumption being there isnt any other sort of music that
people would use. 

http://www.socan.ca/jsp/en/music_users/

So anyway it gives you the right to use music from most of the major
publishers etc. 

Another way of looking at it is that things like 'podsafe music' are
safe from this sort of thing, socan cant touch you if you arent using
copyrighted music.

Its a bargain if you ask me.

Steve Elbows

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wrote:

 ?!  ..  !?
 
 On 4/18/07, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  WTF?
 
  http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/1882/125/
 
  C.
 
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[videoblogging] Re: SOCAN Seeks $60 Annual Podcaster Fee

2007-04-18 Thread Steve Watkins
Also the wikipedia entry for 'copyright collective' helps explain:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_collective

Theres a list of various ones around the world at the end of the
wikipedia entry. I dont know if any of the others have looked at
podcasting, I'll go research.

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Socan's own description of what they do in general, will hopefully
 make sense of the issue. The problem is the term music being used too
 broadly, the assumption being there isnt any other sort of music that
 people would use. 
 
 http://www.socan.ca/jsp/en/music_users/
 
 So anyway it gives you the right to use music from most of the major
 publishers etc. 
 
 Another way of looking at it is that things like 'podsafe music' are
 safe from this sort of thing, socan cant touch you if you arent using
 copyrighted music.
 
 Its a bargain if you ask me.
 
 Steve Elbows
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade meade.dave@
 wrote:
 
  ?!  ..  !?
  
  On 4/18/07, Casey McKinnon caseymckinnon@ wrote:
   WTF?
  
   http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/1882/125/
  
   C.
  
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[videoblogging] Re: SOCAN Seeks $60 Annual Podcaster Fee

2007-04-18 Thread Steve Watkins
Looks like its being reviewed in the UK at the moment, and would apply
to vlogs as well I guess:

http://www.mcps-prs-alliance.co.uk/playingbroadcastingonline/online/Podcasting/Pages/podcasting.aspx

Use of music in a digital recording of an audio or audio-visual
programme, made available on the Internet for downloading to a
personal player.

We are in the process of reviewing the Podcasting licensing schemes
following feedback from both members and licensees. Until new schemes
are available we are arranging interim agreements. 

I went sniffing around that site a bit more and there were all sorts
of different licences which a UK vlogger might want to explore, eg
'production music' which covers fee's for using music thats in a
specific library for use by tv shows etc. Costs are quite high, eg
£196 for one 30 second clip.

In the past Ive generally assumed that such license things are too
expensive or complex to be worth looking at, so I shall be very
interested to see if a sanely priced podcasting/video podcasting
license emerges anywhere.

USA equivalents include:

http://www.ascap.com/weblicense/

http://bmi.com/newmedia/entry/C1170

It all gets a bit messy on the net because traditionally there are
performance rights, to play the music in public, and there are
mechanical rights, to make copies of the music. A podcast can be seen
as requiring both. And the rights organisations only really cover
their own members work, so you still need to check carefully whether
you can use specific works. 

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Also the wikipedia entry for 'copyright collective' helps explain:
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_collective
 
 Theres a list of various ones around the world at the end of the
 wikipedia entry. I dont know if any of the others have looked at
 podcasting, I'll go research.
 
 Cheers
 
 Steve Elbows
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins steve@ wrote:
 
  Socan's own description of what they do in general, will hopefully
  make sense of the issue. The problem is the term music being used too
  broadly, the assumption being there isnt any other sort of music that
  people would use. 
  
  http://www.socan.ca/jsp/en/music_users/
  
  So anyway it gives you the right to use music from most of the major
  publishers etc. 
  
  Another way of looking at it is that things like 'podsafe music' are
  safe from this sort of thing, socan cant touch you if you arent using
  copyrighted music.
  
  Its a bargain if you ask me.
  
  Steve Elbows
  
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  wrote:
  
   ?!  ..  !?
   
   On 4/18/07, Casey McKinnon caseymckinnon@ wrote:
WTF?
   
http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/1882/125/
   
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: SOCAN Seeks $60 Annual Podcaster Fee

2007-04-18 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
Hello,

Is it only certain label's that are included in this?  Or everyone who
makes music (no mater what they want)?

So... let's say I have a friend who has a band.  I use his music in a
video I put on the Internet.  Do I have to pay SOCAN?


See ya

On 4/18/07, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Socan's own description of what they do in general, will hopefully
  make sense of the issue. The problem is the term music being used too
  broadly, the assumption being there isnt any other sort of music that
  people would use.

  http://www.socan.ca/jsp/en/music_users/

  So anyway it gives you the right to use music from most of the major
  publishers etc.

  Another way of looking at it is that things like 'podsafe music' are
  safe from this sort of thing, socan cant touch you if you arent using
  copyrighted music.

  Its a bargain if you ask me.

  Steve Elbows

  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  
   ?!  ..  !?
  
   On 4/18/07, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
WTF?
   
http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/1882/125/
   
C.
   
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Re: [videoblogging] twittervlog

2007-04-18 Thread Rupert
Thanks :)  Phil Campbell is also vlogging daily directly from his n95  
(further north in the UK) at http://n95.blogspot.com/

To return the favor... I can't imagine that there's anyone reading  
this who's not already subscribed to Wreck  Salvage, but if there  
is...  get with the program.  it's the Mustang GT390 Fastback of  
videoblogs.

Check out the current episode, where Toyota Camry becomes art:
http://www.wreckandsalvage.com/

and the previous one, where Billy takes some quiet time to reflect up  
at the lake:
http://office.wreckandsalvage.com/video/ws013-ornamental-concrete-the- 
lake/

Amazing.

Rupert
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http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/

On 18 Apr 2007, at 18:02, Adam Quirk, Wreck  Salvage wrote:

http://twittervlog.blogspot.com

Rupert Howe posts phone videos directly to Twitter. It's a slice of  
London
life. Pretty cool.

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Re: [videoblogging] SOCAN Seeks $60 Annual Podcaster Fee

2007-04-18 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
Yeah... the stuff I've been seeing the Canadian Government doing
lately is just screwed up.  They're even planning on forcing a
Canadian version of the DMCA soon.


On 4/18/07, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 WTF?

  http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/1882/125/

  C.

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[videoblogging] Re: SOCAN Seeks $60 Annual Podcaster Fee

2007-04-18 Thread Steve Watkins
Well not all publishers are members of SOCAN, but I imagine most of
the big labels are, and SOCAN have deals with other copyright
collectives in other countries, so that their work is also covered.

So in general the safe assumption is to presume it covers all
copyrighted music.

The main intention of these things is to collect royalties where it
would be difficult to do so on a 'per case' basis. Eg a radio station
plays so many tracks, they dont want to have to do a deal with each
record company every time they play a song, so they keep playlists
which are submitted to the rights body, who then calculate royalties
and share those royaltis with its members. So if you are an artist who
copyrights their work, youd probably want to join one of these things
so that you get your royalty cheque.

Now in your example of the friend with a band, it would depend on
whether that band had signed any deals. Those deals might have
reassigned the copyright for their songs to the record label. Unless
the friend has retained the right to personally give or sell licenses
to use the work to other people, then he doesnt have the right to give
you permission to use the song. The record company could come after
you, because they are the copyright holder and you dont have their
permission.

You are most likely to have SOCAN and others demanding you get a
license from them, if you are are repeatedly using music. Im sure
there have been cases where the venue or company has claimed it only
uses public domain or other music it has the right to, in which case
SOCAN might look for a specific violation, eg singing happy birthday,
to use as an example. But generally they arent copyright police who
will go after each and every person who violates the copyright of
specific musicians, they are looking for venues, companies, radio
shows, and now it seems podcasts, that are regularily performing
copyrighted music. 

And SOCAN only cover the performance rights, not mechanical rights,
which some other copyright collective will deal with. 

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles Iliya Krempeaux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 
 Is it only certain label's that are included in this?  Or everyone who
 makes music (no mater what they want)?
 
 So... let's say I have a friend who has a band.  I use his music in a
 video I put on the Internet.  Do I have to pay SOCAN?
 
 
 See ya
 
 On 4/18/07, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Socan's own description of what they do in general, will hopefully
   make sense of the issue. The problem is the term music being used too
   broadly, the assumption being there isnt any other sort of music that
   people would use.
 
   http://www.socan.ca/jsp/en/music_users/
 
   So anyway it gives you the right to use music from most of the major
   publishers etc.
 
   Another way of looking at it is that things like 'podsafe music' are
   safe from this sort of thing, socan cant touch you if you arent using
   copyrighted music.
 
   Its a bargain if you ask me.
 
   Steve Elbows
 
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade meade.dave@
   wrote:
   
?!  ..  !?
   
On 4/18/07, Casey McKinnon caseymckinnon@ wrote:
 WTF?

 http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/1882/125/

 C.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: SOCAN Seeks $60 Annual Podcaster Fee

2007-04-18 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
Den 18.04.2007 kl. 21:21 skrev Charles Iliya Krempeaux  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Is it only certain label's that are included in this?  Or everyone who
 makes music (no mater what they want)?

They represent their members.

 So... let's say I have a friend who has a band.  I use his music in a
 video I put on the Internet.  Do I have to pay SOCAN?

Depends on whether your friend is a SOCAN member or not. If the Canadian  
system is anything like the Danish system your friend will be a SOCAN  
member if he is even remotely serious about his music.

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[videoblogging] Re: SOCAN Seeks $60 Annual Podcaster Fee

2007-04-18 Thread Adrian Miles
around the 18/4/07 Steve Watkins mentioned about [videoblogging] Re: 
SOCAN Seeks $60 Annual Podcaster Fee that:
It applies to copyrighted music, its the same sort of thing you need
if you run a club that plays music, or shopping mall or whatever. Its
not new and when similar decision on fee's was made in regards to US
internet radio, there were some who said it was too much and was
killing net radio.

I dont know how true it is, I just know it applies to all the usual
mainstream copyrighted stuff, and so the easierst way round it is not
to use copyrighted works.

Personally I would be really happy if there was a simialr thing for
online video, because it means for a price, people could easily use
copyrighted stuff in their shows, and actually have the proper right
to do so,m thus removing much grey. Right now we already assume that
we dont have the right to do that (apart from fair use stuff), and so
such a licence would be giving us an extra freedom that would cost
money, as opposed to applying a cost to something we could already
legitimately do for free.

just agreeing with my .05 cents worth. In australia if you want to 
play music in your shop/restaurant etc you just pay an annual licence 
fee to the copyright agency, they disseminate royalties to copyright 
owners. Easy, reasonably priced, provides compensation to owners.

We also had (might still do) a small surcharge on every blank audio 
cassette when they gave up and decided it was Ok to make a tape of a 
LP or whatever, so just stick a few cents on the cassettes and the 
same agency once again distributes the $ (it is done on the basis of 
playlists and record sales I think).

Is a sensible no fuss model, though of course is all based on regions 
- because the copyright owners have divided the world up into 
regional markets (for example in Australia until recently we could 
not import books or CDs from the US since most of the copyright 
owners for Australia were British firms and we had to wait for them 
to release it under their label/imprint) this means they have trouble 
how to deal with the net. It just threatens not only IP but the 
geographical basis of their business models.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Final Cut Renders (and others)

2007-04-18 Thread joshpaul
Who's to say AE wouldn't work, too? It renders out to QuickTime, yes?

On 4/18/07, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Great idea... too bad we're After Effects people :P

 C.


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  we might be able to create our own little render farm. If you're
 interested,
  speak up. I believe there's a way to do so, even across the net.
 
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[videoblogging] Variety Article - YouTube to Share Revenue with Users

2007-04-18 Thread Gena
If this is true then it would help but not completely resolve one of
my major beefs with YouTube.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117963268.html?categoryid=18cs=1

Gena

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