Hi,
I'll open a vote thread on MyFaces' dev list.
we got 13 +1 votes on the MyFaces dev list.
I'll follow up with a vote on general @ incubator to get approval for
the graduation as a MyFaces subproject.
I'll keep you posted.
-Matthias
Greetings,
Matthias
On 4/11/07, Matthias
[X] graduate as a subproject of the Apache MyFaces community
[ ] graduate as a TLP
[ ] not ready to graduate, because...
On 12/04/07, Grant Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[X] graduate as a subproject of the Apache MyFaces community
[ ] graduate as a TLP
[ ] not ready to graduate, because...
On
+1 to start graduating :)
Mvgr,
Martin
Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
Hello Trinidad PPMC members and Trinidad community,
[X] graduate as a TLP
And a jakarta-style JSF components project.
Let's assume we start the myfaces commons stuff in the near future,
this JSF components TLP could have the following subprojects:
-Tomahawk
-Tobago
-Trinidad
-commons (non-renderkit-goodies)
Martin, you are the man that know best about
Personally I don't think a TLP would be a good idea just yet since JSF is
still relatively new compared to some older well known frameworks. I think
it's easier for new users to find all they need from one entry point and
MyFaces seems the right place for that, at least for now.
Also, being a
On 4/11/07, Simon Lessard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Personally I don't think a TLP would be a good idea just yet since JSF is
still relatively new compared to some older well known frameworks. I think
it's easier for new users to find all they need from one entry point and
MyFaces seems the right
Simon,
I like your arguments and after reading this thread, I like the idea
of a subproject better than a TLP too. I wanted to comment so
ya'll will know there are more people reading the thread and
forming an opinion than have been commenting thus far. :)
- Jeanne
Simon Lessard wrote:
As long as the community is somewhat similar (at least there are
people in both communities), I'm +1 for taking it in under MyFaces. My
only problem with the subproject approach is that when RCF comes out,
we'll have two sub projects where one sub project depends on the other
- kind of awkward.
The dependency will be also the same, if we (MyFaces) go the proposed
route w/ Trinidad as the base for Tomahawk².
-Matthias
On 4/11/07, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As long as the community is somewhat similar (at least there are
people in both communities), I'm +1 for taking it
Hello Trinidad PPMC members and Trinidad community,
we have discussed during the last months (time by time, not permanent)
that Trinidad is ready to graduate from the Apache Incubator; we also
managed to get releases of the artifacts out. Main question is (see
the original email threads) should
[X] graduate as a subproject of the Apache MyFaces community
+1 (binding)
[ ] graduate as a TLP
[ ] not ready to graduate, because...
-Matthias
[X] graduate as a subproject of the Apache MyFaces community
[ ] graduate as a TLP
[ ] not ready to graduate, because...
On 4/11/07, Jeanne Waldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[X] graduate as a subproject of the Apache MyFaces community
[ ] graduate as a TLP
[ ] not ready to graduate, because...
[X] graduate as a subproject of the Apache MyFaces community
[ ] graduate as a TLP
[ ] not ready to graduate, because...
On 4/11/07, Adam Winer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[X] graduate as a subproject of the Apache MyFaces community
[ ] graduate as a TLP
[ ] not ready to graduate, because...
On
So, are the next steps to do a vote here, to graduate and being a
subproject of the MyFaces project ?
After that I think the MyFaces PMC needs to vote on accepting Trinidad
as a subproject
Last step is, letting Incubator PMC vote on approve the graduation.
Right ?
If yes, I'll start the vote
In trinidad, we have some code snippet that uses exception as part of
message string instead of a throwable parameter.
For example in
incubator\trinidad\trunk\trinidad\trinidad-impl\src\main\java\org\apache\myfaces\trinidadinternal\context\external\ServletExternalContext.java
public class
Not sure how this effects the discussion about the next steps,
regarding the graduation.
Please use a new thread for new topics.
Thanks,
Matthias
On 4/10/07, Jijun Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In trinidad, we have some code snippet that uses exception as part of
message string instead of a
If there was an idea to split MyFaces into an implementation
half and a component set half, each as separate TLPs, then
I'd see your point - but as it is, MyFaces the TLP is both
an implementation and (currently) 2 component sets.
-- Adam
On 4/10/07, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Martin,
component sets, I am focussing on the possible lack of overlap in community of
the JSF
implementation and the component sets. Different goals, different users and
different developers
(although the last is not yet the case, it is most likely someone interested in
components is
Ok, I'll start the vote for TLP vs. subproject here later today.
And yes, there are more PPMC members.
-Matthias
On 4/10/07, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Vote on this list, asking people if they want TLP or as a subproject for
MyFaces. Since I suppose
there are more people on
That was also a point of Noel, when proposing the RCF donation thing.
He was asking, why not having a JSF components project.
Perhaps that might be an interesting option, not sure yet; but when
RCF arrives somewhen.. there would be another component set.
Perhaps we should move the discussion
...
Even if there is interest, a TLP would not prevent a merge of the two, unless
Trinidad doesn't want
to or the MyFaces PMC doesn't want to. If all Tomahawk developers would like to
merge with Trinidad
and Trinidad wants to and the MyFaces PMC doesn't, there are other issues :)
We started
...
FWIW, I think Trinidad is more compatible with Tomahawk
then Tobago is... they don't work perfectly together, but I'd
very much like to see the incompatibilities resolved.
there was also an idea of a myfaces commons lib, which contains
non-renderkit features like validators and
On the other hand, if Trinidad wants to be a (Dare I say The?)
general purpose component set, then MyFaces community acceptance is
probably a good target to hit. That's going to happen better as part
of the MyFaces community rather than as an independent TLP. The
ad-hoc approach taken thus far
+1..
Thing to decide now is TLP or as subproject of MyFaces.
Main thing is focus to decide on what to do :
- People on MyFaces equally care about and work on Trinidad
- People on Trinidad equally care about MyFaces
MyFaces == the code base, not the TLP project. People working on Trinidad
I'm in favor of MyFaces for Trinidad. I would like to see Trinidad
as the basis for Tomahawk JSF 1.2.
However, if there is no interest in merging Tomahawk and Trinidad,
then going with a TLP would be better.
Right now, Tobago is in the state you described below -- You're either
using Tobago
Just a disclaimer : this is not an attack on you personally or a statement the
the MyFaces Project
is broken, just like to prevent that it becomes broken :)
Mike Kienenberger wrote:
I'm in favor of MyFaces for Trinidad. I would like to see Trinidad
as the basis for Tomahawk JSF 1.2.
So in
On 4/7/07, Mike Kienenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm in favor of MyFaces for Trinidad. I would like to see Trinidad
as the basis for Tomahawk JSF 1.2.
However, if there is no interest in merging Tomahawk and Trinidad,
then going with a TLP would be better.
Right now, Tobago is in the
On 3/19/07, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Martin,
your email states that this group should at least manage to get the
release of the plugins out. I did. Currently this group is waiting for
an approval to release the CORE as well.
was approved and already released :-)
Hi Martin,
see inline for some comment
On 2/10/07, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In short : according to me they are.. Any feedback and additions appreciated..
On note : I like to
see that at least the plugins get a release before we start a vote on dev (and
I expressed below
found it
http://mojo.codehaus.org/rat-maven-plugin/
looking later at it
-Matthias
On 2/14/07, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Martin,
see inline for some comment
On 2/10/07, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In short : according to me they are.. Any feedback and
In short : according to me they are.. Any feedback and additions appreciated..
On note : I like to
see that at least the plugins get a release before we start a vote on dev (and
I expressed below
that you are targetting to have a release of core before leaving the incubator,
although that
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