Re: Next steps? (was Re: Is trinidad ready for graduation ?)

2007-04-11 Thread Simon Lessard
Personally I don't think a TLP would be a good idea just yet since JSF is still relatively new compared to some older well known frameworks. I think it's easier for new users to find all they need from one entry point and MyFaces seems the right place for that, at least for now. Also, being a

[XRTS] overhaul of the NumberConverter messages (their details)

2007-04-11 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
HEllo, currently we have something like: The value {1} is not a valid currency value. or The value {1} is not a valid percentage value. as the detail message for the FacesMessage. The DateTimeConverter is much nicer to the user. It is providing an example, using the right format/pattern. I'd

Re: Next steps? (was Re: Is trinidad ready for graduation ?)

2007-04-11 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
On 4/11/07, Simon Lessard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I don't think a TLP would be a good idea just yet since JSF is still relatively new compared to some older well known frameworks. I think it's easier for new users to find all they need from one entry point and MyFaces seems the right

Re: number of downloads

2007-04-11 Thread Yoav Shapira
Matthias, On 4/11/07, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there a possibility, to check the number of downloads ? For instance, for a file like http://people.apache.org/dist/incubator/trinidad/1.0.0-incubating/trinidad-1.0.0-incubating-dist.tar.gz My guess is, that it might be

Re: Next steps? (was Re: Is trinidad ready for graduation ?)

2007-04-11 Thread Jeanne Waldman
Simon, I like your arguments and after reading this thread, I like the idea of a subproject better than a TLP too. I wanted to comment so ya'll will know there are more people reading the thread and forming an opinion than have been commenting thus far. :) - Jeanne Simon Lessard wrote:

Re: Next steps? (was Re: Is trinidad ready for graduation ?)

2007-04-11 Thread Martin Marinschek
As long as the community is somewhat similar (at least there are people in both communities), I'm +1 for taking it in under MyFaces. My only problem with the subproject approach is that when RCF comes out, we'll have two sub projects where one sub project depends on the other - kind of awkward.

Re: Next steps? (was Re: Is trinidad ready for graduation ?)

2007-04-11 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
The dependency will be also the same, if we (MyFaces) go the proposed route w/ Trinidad as the base for Tomahawk². -Matthias On 4/11/07, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As long as the community is somewhat similar (at least there are people in both communities), I'm +1 for taking it

VOTE graduation (was Re: Next steps? (was Re: Is trinidad ready for graduation ?))

2007-04-11 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Hello Trinidad PPMC members and Trinidad community, we have discussed during the last months (time by time, not permanent) that Trinidad is ready to graduate from the Apache Incubator; we also managed to get releases of the artifacts out. Main question is (see the original email threads) should

Re: VOTE graduation (was Re: Next steps? (was Re: Is trinidad ready for graduation ?))

2007-04-11 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
[X] graduate as a subproject of the Apache MyFaces community +1 (binding) [ ] graduate as a TLP [ ] not ready to graduate, because... -Matthias

Re: [XRTS] overhaul of the NumberConverter messages (their details)

2007-04-11 Thread Jeanne Waldman
That sounds great to me. - Jeanne Martin Marinschek wrote: Well, that's certainly a good idea! regards, Martin On 4/11/07, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HEllo, currently we have something like: The value {1} is not a valid currency value. or The value {1} is not a valid

Re: [Fwd: Re: return an Iterator vs a List]

2007-04-11 Thread Blake Sullivan
Adam Winer wrote: I don't think there's that much reason not to return a List. All I'm saying is that if you had an API that was Iterator, and your desire was to support the fun SE 5 for construct, then Iterable is the simplest change. The question then is why the original API was ever

Re: [XRTS] overhaul of the NumberConverter messages (their details)

2007-04-11 Thread Adam Winer
Me too. The only downside is that these examples are a performance hit (a significant one, last time I profiled inputDate). NumberConverter is probably more lightweight than DateConverter. -- Adam On 4/11/07, Jeanne Waldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That sounds great to me. - Jeanne Martin

Re: VOTE graduation (was Re: Next steps? (was Re: Is trinidad ready for graduation ?))

2007-04-11 Thread Adam Winer
[X] graduate as a subproject of the Apache MyFaces community [ ] graduate as a TLP [ ] not ready to graduate, because... On 4/11/07, Jeanne Waldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [X] graduate as a subproject of the Apache MyFaces community [ ] graduate as a TLP [ ] not ready to graduate, because...

Re: VOTE graduation (was Re: Next steps? (was Re: Is trinidad ready for graduation ?))

2007-04-11 Thread Grant Smith
[X] graduate as a subproject of the Apache MyFaces community [ ] graduate as a TLP [ ] not ready to graduate, because... On 4/11/07, Adam Winer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [X] graduate as a subproject of the Apache MyFaces community [ ] graduate as a TLP [ ] not ready to graduate, because... On